Low quality debate with Sooner

Sooner
well the Perez guy doesn't have direct authority over a state party like Iowa
infspire
The DNC is currently running the Iowa count/recount.
Sooner
state parties apparently do not want to surrender much power to the DNC
13:56 Sooner
each state's party pretty much controls that state and how the primary and/or caucus is managed
infspire
Much of the Democratic Party and DNC are extremely corrupt organizations.
Sooner
you could argue there's not enough control by the national org, but like I said, good luck getting states to ceed that
Sooner
parties want to win
infspire
I believe the DNC would rather Trump win than Bernie.
Sooner
bullshit
infspire
Trump allows them to continue their pay-to-play corruption.
infspire
A Bernie victory will not.
infspire
Sooner, a standard socialist class-analysis indicates that people have the most solidarity with their economic class than with other groups they belong to, e.g. race, religion, gender.
infspire
In the United States, there is an extremely underdeveloped class-culture, as right-wing economic interests have been fairly dominant since the 1920s.
infspire
And so you'll see American analysts forget this extremely substantial dimension upon which humans organize.
Sooner
seems like another conversation topic
infspire
Sooner: The standard analysis is to look at political groupings, i.e. the DNC is a 'leftist' party and the RNC is a 'rightist' party.
infspire
And from that analysis, it's inconceivable the DNC would prefer Trump over Sanders.
infspire
And I agree with that.
Sooner
I've already taken sociology and political science courses
infspire
But, the economic class-based argument is almost never, ever made in our culture.
infspire
But there is a lot of evidence it is true.
Sooner
and economics
infspire
Literally, a Sanders wins destroys the current DNC as it is organized.
infspire
The entire thing.
infspire
You know how former members of the Clinton team can incestuously pick shadow contractors to built election infrastructure that is insecure and unworkable?
infspire
That goes away with a Sanders win.
infspire
It doesn't go away with a Trump win.
infspire
It might expand with a Trump win.
infspire
The DNC literally built an insecure app two months before they rolled it out.
infspire
Did you see the article in The Verge?
infspire
Vote totals could have been changed.
infspire
DHS reached out to them to test this app. The IDP turned them down.
infspire
The CEO of the company that made the app is a Buttigieg backer.
infspire
All of that goes away with a Sanders win.
infspire
He is, literally an existential threat to their professional lives.
infspire
Trump is not until he becomes even more fascist.
infspire
When Trump does a genocide against immigrants at the Southern Border, no members of the IDP are imprisoned, as that's not their class.
infspire
When Trump murders people abroad, like Solemaini, no members of the IDP are killed, as that's not their class.
Sooner
I'm not a conspiracy theorist
infspire
When Trump targets his enemies with false investigations by the DOJ, that will only affect the most senior members of the DNC/Democratic Party.
infspire
Sooner: I am one of the highest integrity people you'll ever meet in your lifetime.
Sooner
nice to know
infspire
Which of my posts has been a "conspiracy theory"?
infspire
Sooner: When you respond to a person's thoughtful comments in a debate channel in the way you did, it does not promote continued engagement.
Sooner
alright, I'll ignore you
infspire
Okay.
infspire
I put you on ignore for two months, Sooner.
infspire
The character your displayed in this interaction was abysmal.