[hlds] False Positice Vac Bans
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N-Gon <ngongamedesign@gmail.com>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:57 AM
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Apparently a bunch of TF2 players got False Positive'd today by VAC.
Just wanted to get the word out to any community owners, if one of your players got VAC'd this week there is a small chance he's telling the truth when he says he's innocent.

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Gabriel Klinefelter <gabe.klinefelter@gmail.com>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:06 AM
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Hmm, are the players able to get unVAC'd?  One of my gamers got VAC'd in this wave and says he has no clue why.  Assuming that he's telling the truth, what does he do?

http://steamcommunity.com/id/airsbears/ is the guy

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Weasels Lair <weasel@weaselslair.com>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:40 AM
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All they can do is start another Steam Profile, trade any tradable items they have to their new profile, and possibly re-buy non-free-to-play games.
​Generally, there is no recourse with VAC.

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N-Gon <ngongamedesign@gmail.com>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:45 AM
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Untrue as Valve has removed false positives many times.
http://www.vacbanned.com/listing/unbanned
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2cm34j/yes_false_vac_bans_do_happen_my_ban_was_lifted/

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Weasels Lair <weasel@weaselslair.com>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:55 AM
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Is there some official process now? Last I remembered, there wasn't.​

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Mike Vail <support@boomgaming.net>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:01 AM
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Can you please post your source of this information. I'd like to read the details and where it came from. Has Valve acknowledged this yet?

Thank you
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N-Gon <ngongamedesign@gmail.com>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:20 AM
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Just about 70 UGC players were Vac'd today. I don't think that's ever happened in the history of UGC.
I'm highly skeptical that all or even most of those players were actually cheating as normally 15 getting caught by either VAC or by the League itself over the course of a season (12 weeks) is considered a high amount.

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ics <ics@ics-base.net>	Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 5:19 AM
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I wouldn't jump to conclusions about bans being false so suddenly. Not even Reddit is making noise and it's completely possible that a cheats(s) was detected and added to VAC database, which led to bans.

Last time when people got banned falsely, Valve automatically reversed the bans for the affected players. My real life friend got banned also and it was overturned automatically.

And no, there is no official way to make a complaint about VAC bans. You can contact Steam support to verify the ban but support being so badly working, expect to wait for a reply a long time.

-ics