White People

+englanddg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGo3_fU1n6s
+urlinfo
**** Why White Privilege Matters - YouTube
+englanddg
Check it bitches!
ⓘ Ekko set mode +v NalaniEke
+NalaniEke
englanddg: do you self-define as "white"?
← voideater has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
+englanddg
NalaniEke - You know...white.
+NalaniEke
englanddg: do you self-define as "white"?
englanddg: are you unavailable for conversation?
My preference is for us to discuss your "white" assertion.
+pilgrim`
I am not whote
white
Ignoring pilgrim`!*@*
@Mara47
england is white and native american. and he married a black girl. so he is above the fray
→ darkgoog has joined
← darkgoog has left
+NalaniEke
Mara47: "self-define"
@Mara47
i am euro peasant stock
Ignoring Mara47!*@*
+NalaniEke
Okay.
+Kaliuna
NalaniEke in case you didn't see it was reference to a U-TUBE  youtube ...
Ignoring Kaliuna!*@*
+NalaniEke
If you're responding to my question I have a few pointers:
1 - Are you englanddg?
2 - Are you addressing whether or not you self-define as "white"?
+Ionizer
hm
+englanddg
White is a matter of power and privilege.
+NalaniEke
If you cannot answer yes to the two questions, I recommend setting this question aside.
Ignoring englanddg!*@*
+NalaniEke
englanddg: You have shared with me you are unavailable for conversation on the things you talk about.
Position accepted.
It was not my preference, but we don't always get what we want.
+Ionizer
right
i mean i was always handed my jobs
on a silver platter
i never had to work in a warehouse for min wage when i was a kid or anything
sitting at the top, counting inventory when it was 102 degrees out and the top of the warehouse was about 115
i never did that
englanddg: i hope ur being as sarcastic as i am
+NalaniEke
Ionizer: why would we be interested in what you did or did not do as a kid
+Ionizer
b/c now it sounds like ur serious
b/c i am white
and i am well off
but its because i worked hard
not because ia mw hite
+NalaniEke
Ionizer: Why do you self-define as "white"?
+Ionizer
NalaniEke: b/c that's the fucking color of my skin
and yuou dont have to be racist to see color
+NalaniEke
Well, it's not actually the color of your skin, right.
You're probably a tan or peach.
+Ionizer
ppl who say "i dont see color" - i tell them to go see an eye doctor
u can see color and not be a racist
its normal
+NalaniEke
That may seem pedantic, but seems relevant when you said "it's the color of my skin"
When, in fact, it is not the color of your skin.
+X-Scale
NalaniEke: how deep are you into identity politics ?
+Ionizer
pilgrim`: was there an "in" missing
"he comes in her often"
+NalaniEke
Do you agree your skin does not match the color white, Ionizer?
+Ionizer
NalaniEke: correct
+NalaniEke
X-Scale: how do you define identity politics?
+Ionizer
it is the common usage of the term white
that i am referencing
+NalaniEke
Ionizer: so, it's a symbol for your skin color?
Agreed?
+Ionizer
its a common agred upon terminology
+NalaniEke
That is somewhere in the vicinity of your actual skin color.
+Ionizer
not a symbol
+NalaniEke
So, the idea is important, then?
+Ionizer
just like black people arent actually BLACK
+NalaniEke
"the common agree upon terminology"
Rather than your actual skin color
Can we set aside your skin color, then?
+Ionizer
NalaniEke: no b/c saying one was tan-beige or some yellow-hue is confusing
+NalaniEke
Tan seems just as easy as white, as they're both monosyllabic.
But, I'll accept that.
It could have been tan, could have been white, but ended up as white.
Ionizer: do you self-define using any other physical characteristics?
Like, do you say you're a brown?
If your eyes are brown
Or, perhaps, "I'm a blue"
→ VinceVega has joined
+NalaniEke
In the case you have blue eyes
My prediction is that you do not do that
+Ionizer
where are we going wth this
color of ones skin is predmoniantly something people see
+NalaniEke
Ionizer: to point out that "white" is about a lot more than your "fucking skin color"
ⓘ Ekko set mode +v VinceVega
+Ionizer
whereas eye color does not, ahir can be shaven/covered, etc
+[pack]
I recognize his/her/it's argument pattern. Anyone else?
[pack] [[pack][email protected]] * Ask the NSA
Channels: +#politics
Connected to server: irc.servercentral.net Server Central Network
Using a secure connection
actually using host
Idle for 00:00:06, signed on 11/25/2016
+Ionizer
i recognize it as retarded
if that's what you mean
Ignoring *!*@192.161.245.*
Ignoring Ionizer!*@*
+NalaniEke
I ended my conversation with you, Ionizer.
Here's why: If you reflect back on your life, even all the way back to when you did or did not have a certain job you feel is associated with your race or not, you'll remember some conversations included people saying "retarded"
Now, set that as the denominator in a fraction. As numerator, set the number of those conversations that were "useful", in your view.
For me, the numerator is pretty close to 0.
ⓘ CometBaby set mode -v NalaniEke