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8:44 PM E<•ESF> fixed
8:51 PM informal poll
8:52 PM do people prefer to have high rp bonus that dramatically increases Rand() or moderate RP bonus that doesn't crank Rand() up several notches?
8:53 PM N<Nephara> http://www.mibbit.com moderate
8:53 PM the ideal is enough that rank-coasters get dunked but that rank still holds a strong foundation
8:54 PM but that's a lot easier said than done, i'msure
8:55 PM E<•ESF> i ask cause the -perception- is that people prefer the high rp bonus, even though in practicality all it does is raise Rand()
8:56 PM C<Chrom> F1reand1ce which "evens out the playing field"
8:56 PM K<Kushleesi> 정연수 Moderate tbh
8:56 PM Too much isn't good
8:57 PM There are competitions where that's good and needed : HWC, WCoH, NSCF
8:57 PM WC / AOCAF? Not really
8:57 PM Kushleesi → ClubbingInDaNuts
8:57 PM N<Nephara> http://www.mibbit.com it's a good way to shake things up if the like
8:57 PM established order feels unshakable
8:58 PM like that's the first point of call
8:58 PM since you don't want to intentionally increase Rand
8:58 PM C<Chrom> F1reand1ce i think a higher RP bonus actually has the greatest chance of introducing host bias
8:59 PM E<•ESF> hrmm, i had never considered that angle before but i can see it
8:59 PM C<Chrom> F1reand1ce not saying anyone would, but the subconscious is a real thing
8:59 PM i understand why it exists, because if there was a set scale people would do the bare minimum
8:59 PM C<ClubbingInDaNuts> 정연수 I'll just say that in 77 (at least for my side) RP bonus wasn't high in ratio
9:00 PM Moderate by my standards
9:00 PM Probably I gave more RP bonus on 73
9:01 PM E<•ESF> It's weird for me, being the most decorated host in NSS, outside CH and olympic host, to have to ask. I would like to think I know what works well but recent events have made me wonder if I was perhaps not adapting to a shifting society
9:01 PM C<ClubbingInDaNuts> 정연수 gtg to club, see y'all
9:01 PM Kinda hard to say
9:02 PM With WCoH, you do very well with hockey scorinations and whatnot but also it's a much smaller competition
9:02 PM Maybe it's because WC is a bigger scaled comp? That's what I think
9:03 PM E<•ESF> Being brought up in NSS during the 30s, it was sort of ingrained that this was not a writing competition and never meant to be a writing competition, else people like Az-cz, C&M, or Wight would win no matter what. However RPers should still be rewarded for their participation but not incentive to post merely for that reward.
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9:04 PM N<Nephara> http://www.mibbit.com NSS is about the RP at the end of the day
9:05 PM it should be (and is) impossible to succeed without dedication and an at least moderate ability to put words in order
9:05 PM E<•ESF> Now on top of having those who desire writing to mean more, we also have more instant gratification participants (like Anglatia for example) and those who would like to shake up what they perceive as the establishment or power players.
9:05 PM N<Nephara> http://www.mibbit.com for me, achieving victory felt earned
9:06 PM by RPing every matchday to a high standard
9:06 PM E<•ESF> In addition, the subconscious pull towards "popular" people makes hosting a precarious position.
9:06 PM N<Nephara> http://www.mibbit.com i felt i did all i could to my chances, and got pretty lucky, which i'm perhaps paying for now...
9:06 PM brenecia i put less effort into initially and so they struggled for the first few cycles, rightly
9:06 PM <•ESF> So that you can have bids that do not even list their scorination method get awarded tournaments, votes against certain players or styles for the sake of it, or just pure chaos
9:07 PM In that, I am trying to get the feel for NSS and what it really wants and get people to address what they really want as well
9:07 PM C<Chrom> F1reand1ce Perhaps a discussion thread is in order
9:07 PM E<•ESF> It would not go well
9:07 PM C<Chrom> F1reand1ce or would that lead to just fingerpointing, lots of long posts, and people getting worked up
9:08 PM E<•ESF> The airing of grievances or forcing people to face their own bias or illogical behaviors is best done in a closed setting, as intense emotions are more likely than not
9:08 PM C<Chrom> F1reand1ce yeah, and i guess having it out in the open where certain members of the forum at large can contribute wouldn't be the best
9:08 PM E<•ESF> No one likes to be told they are wrong and a person's first instinct is to be defensive