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  1. Bowletta -> Dies OHKO with 20 damage Mush Badge
  2. Cackletta SHOULD die 2-HKO (heart) with 21 damage Mush Baage (20 on lua)
  3.  
  4. 42 - 28 - 28 - 25 - 25 - 24 ...
  5. 652
  6.  
  7. 21 -> 574+37 = 632
  8. When heart,
  9. M: Chopper Bros. (626)
  10. L: Jump (598)
  11. m: Chopper Bros. ( 24)
  12. L: Jump ( -4) DEAD
  13.  
  14. 20 -> 548+36 = 584
  15. NOTE: 20 may be possible with Knockback Bros., not yet tested.
  16. NOTE: 21 may not be possible using death strats. 22 likely needed IF IT OUTWEIGHS DEATHSTRATS.
  17.  
  18.  
  19.  
  20.  
  21.  
  22. Fights in chronological order:
  23.  
  24. * Bowser 0
  25. Goomba 1 (4, 4) 0
  26. Goomba 2 (4, 4) 0
  27. * Fawful (18, 12) 0
  28. .......................
  29. * Tolstar (52) 0
  30. * Hoohooros (45)
  31. * Dragohoho (80)
  32. * Queen Bean (120)
  33. * Popple & Rookie 1 (120 Rookie)
  34. * Wiggler (34)
  35. * Chuckolator (300)
  36. * Cackletta (300)
  37. * Popple & Rookie 2 (250 Rookie)
  38. * Mom Piranha (220)
  39. * Trunkle (60)
  40. * Hermie III (400)
  41. * Popple (520)
  42. Piranha Bean (180) Luigi POW - 43 to 63, +10 with Pea Badge --- 43 to 73, all deal 4 damage. Entirely dependent on Mush Badge.
  43. 16 Mush Damage = 20 = 9 turns
  44. 19 Mush Damage = 23 = 8 turns
  45. 22 Mush Damage = 26 = 7 turns
  46. 26 Mush Damage = 30 = 6 turns
  47. 32 Mush Damage = 36 = 5 turns
  48. 41 Mush Damage = 45 = 4 turns
  49. 56 Mush Damage = 60 = 3 turns
  50. 86 Mush Damage = 90 = 2 turns
  51. 176 Mush Damage = 180 = 1 turn <- IMPOSSIBLE.
  52. * Jojora (500)
  53. * Popple & Birdo (450 Birdo)
  54. * Iggy (550)
  55. * Morton (500)
  56. * Lemmy (380)
  57. * Ludwig (550)
  58. * Roy (550)
  59. * Wendy (350)
  60. * Larry (550)
  61. * Fawful (400)
  62. * Bowletta (500)
  63. * Cackletta ( 200 Head )
  64. ( 80 Arms )
  65. (1200 Heart)
  66.  
  67.  
  68. Stats:
  69. M: 10 HP, 10 BP, 12 POW, 13 DEF, 13 SPD, 6 HIGE
  70. L: 12 HP, 10 BP, 11 POW, 14 DEF, 9 SPD, 5 HIGE
  71.  
  72. Bowser
  73. Jump on him.
  74.  
  75. Goomba 1
  76. Tutorial. Jump top, top, let bottom attack MARIO, bottom.
  77.  
  78. Goomba 2
  79. Top, bottom.
  80. Level up: Mario level 2 -> POW +3
  81. -> 12 HP, 10 BP, 16 POW, 15 DEF, 16 SPD, 7 HIGE
  82.  
  83. Fawful
  84. Keep jumping.
  85. MUGG'S TAS:
  86. M: Jump
  87. L: Jump
  88. dodge -> Attacks Mario
  89. M: Jump
  90. K: Jump
  91. no to bowser
  92. dodge -> Attacks Mario
  93. M: jump
  94. L= jmp
  95. dodge -< luigi mario
  96. M: l
  97. L:
  98. dodge -> mario luigi
  99. M: oof
  100. L: lol
  101. dodge -> mario
  102. m: lol
  103. l: lol
  104. dodge -> mario
  105. m: jump
  106. l: dead
  107.  
  108.  
  109.  
  110.  
  111. ========================
  112. STARDUST FIELDS
  113. ========================
  114.  
  115. Jump Stardust Fields 1 NOTE: GET 2 MUSHROOMS HERE (4 enemies)
  116. M: Splash Bros. TOP LEFT
  117. L: Jump BOTTOM LEFT
  118. M: Splash Bros. TOP RIGHT
  119. L: Jump BOTTOM RIGHT
  120. M: Splash Bros. BOTTOM RIGHT
  121. Mario Splash Bros. Advance uses: 3 / 20
  122. Level up: Luigi Level 2 -> POW +3 -- consider: BP +3
  123. -> 14 HP, 11 BP, 16 POW, 12 DEF, 11 SPD, 6 HIGE
  124.  
  125. Tutorial Fight:
  126. M: Splash Bros.
  127. Mario Splash Bros. Advance uses: 4 / 20
  128.  
  129. Jump Sardust Fields 2 NOTE: GET 2 MUSHROOMS HERE (4 enemies)
  130. M: Splash Bros. TOP RIGHT
  131. L: Jump TOP LEFT
  132. M: Splash Bros. BOTTOM RIGHT
  133. L: Jump BOTTOM LEFT
  134. Mario Splash Bros. Advance uses: 6 / 20
  135.  
  136. Jump Stardust Fields 3 NOTE: 2 mushrooms (3 enemies)
  137. M: Jump LEFT
  138. L: Jump BOTTOM RIGHT LUCKY HIT!!!
  139. M: Splash Bros. TOP RIGHT
  140. Mario Splash Bros. Advance Uses: 7 / 20
  141. Level up: Mario level 3 -> POW +3
  142. -> 13hp, 11bp, 21pow, 12def, 18spd, 9hige
  143.  
  144. 52 Tolstar (SYRUP BEFORE BATTLE) -- No lucky hits route
  145. Luckies: Mario Jump 2->4
  146. Luigi Jump 2->4
  147. M: Splash (45/52) (M 8/11bp)
  148. dodge
  149. L: Bounce (40/52) (L 9/12np)
  150. M: Splash (33/52) (M 5/11bp)
  151. dodge
  152. L: Bounce (28/52) (L 6/12bp)
  153. M: Splash (21/52) (M 2/11bp)
  154. dodge
  155. L: Syrup on Mario (21/52) (M 11/11bp)
  156. M: Splash (14/52) (M 8/11bp)
  157. dodge
  158. L: Bounce (9/52) (L 3/12bp)
  159. M: Splash (2/52) (M 5/11bp)
  160. dodge
  161. L: Jump (0/52)
  162. Mario Splash Bros. Advance Uses: 12 / 20
  163. Level up: Luigi level 3 -> POW +3
  164.  
  165. 45 Hoohooros --- Works for both scenario a and scenario b (L POW +3 or BP +3)
  166. Luckies: Mario 2 -> 5
  167. Luigi 2 -> 4
  168. M: Jump empty rock (45/45)
  169. L: Jump hoo rock (45/45)
  170. dodge
  171. M: Splash (37/45)
  172. L: Jump empty rock (37/45)
  173. dodge
  174. M: Splash (29/45)
  175. L: Jump empty rock (29/45)
  176. dodge
  177. M: Splash bottom (21/45)
  178. L: Syrup Mario
  179. dodge
  180. M: Splash bottom (13/45)
  181. L: Bounce top (8/45)
  182. dodge
  183. M: Splash top (0/45)
  184. Mario Splash Bros. Advance Uses: 16/20
  185. Level up: Mario level 4 -> POW +3
  186. Luigi level 4 -> POW +3
  187.  
  188.  
  189.  
  190.  
  191. SCENARIO C
  192.  
  193. Tolstar:
  194. M: Splash (45/52) (M 8/11bp)
  195. dodge
  196. L: Bounce (40/52) (L 9/12np)
  197. M: Splash (33/52) (M 5/11bp)
  198. dodge
  199. L: Bounce (28/52) (L 6/12bp)
  200. M: Splash (21/52) (M 2/11bp)
  201. dodge
  202. L: Syrup on Mario (21/52) (M 11/11bp)
  203. M: Splash (14/52) (M 8/11bp)
  204. dodge
  205. L: Bounce (9/52) (L 3/12bp)
  206. M: Splash (2/52) (M 5/11bp)
  207. dodge
  208. L: Jump (0/52)
  209. Splashes: 12
  210.  
  211. Hoohooros
  212. M: Splash empty rock (m 8/11bp)
  213. L: Jump hoo rock
  214. dodge
  215. M: Splash (28/45) (m 5/11bp)
  216. L: Jump empty rock
  217. dodge
  218. M: Splash (11/45) (m 2/11bp)
  219. L: Refill Splash (m 11/11bp)
  220. dodge
  221. M: Splash empty rock (m 8/11bp)
  222. L: Jump Hoohooros (9/45)
  223. dodge
  224. M: Splash (-6/45)
  225. Splashes: 17
  226.  
  227. SCENARIO D
  228. Tolstar
  229. M: Splash (45/52) (M 8/11bp)
  230. dodge
  231. L: Bounce (40/52) (L 9/12np)
  232. M: Splash (33/52) (M 5/11bp)
  233. dodge
  234. L: Jump (31/52) (L 6/12bp)
  235. M: Splash (24/52) (M 2/11bp)
  236. dodge
  237. L: Syrup on Mario (24/52) (M 11/11bp)
  238. M: Splash (17/52) (M 8/11bp)
  239. dodge
  240. L: Jump (15/52) (L 3/12bp)
  241. M: Splash (8/52) (M 5/11bp)
  242. dodge
  243. L: Jump (6/52)
  244. M: Splash (-1/52) (m 2/11bp)
  245. Splashes: 13
  246. Hoohooros
  247. M: Splash empty rock (m 8/11bp)
  248. L: Jump hoo rock
  249. dodge
  250. M: Splash (28/45) (m 5/11bp)
  251. L: Jump empty rock
  252. dodge
  253. M: Splash (11/45) (m 2/11bp)
  254. L: Refill Splash (m 11/11bp)
  255. dodge
  256. M: Splash Hoohooros ((m 8/11bp)
  257. Splashes: 17
  258.  
  259.  
  260.  
  261.  
  262. 80 Dragohoho
  263. M: Splash (63/80)
  264. L: Bounce (52/80)
  265. dodge
  266. M: Splash (35/80)
  267. L: Bounce (24/80)
  268. dodge
  269. M: Splash (7/80) - ADVANCE
  270. L: Bounce (-4/80)
  271.  
  272. 120 Queen Bean
  273. M: Advanced Splash
  274. L: Hammer
  275. M: Advanced Splash
  276. L: Hammer
  277. M: Advanced Splash
  278. L: Hammer
  279. M: Advanced Splash
  280. L: Hammer
  281. M: Advanced Splash - Dead
  282.  
  283. CONSIDER THIS:
  284. Popple & Rookie 1
  285. M: Splash Rookie
  286. L:
  287.  
  288.  
  289.  
  290.  
  291.  
  292.  
  293.  
  294.  
  295.  
  296.  
  297.  
  298.  
  299.  
  300.  
  301.  
  302.  
  303.  
  304.  
  305.  
  306.  
  307.  
  308.  
  309.  
  310.  
  311. ============
  312. Stardust 3
  313. ============
  314. M: Splash top-right (ADV 13/20)
  315. dodge
  316. L: Jump bottom-right * LUCKY
  317. M: Jump top-left
  318. dodge
  319. L: Jump bottom-left
  320. Level up: Mario Level 3 -> POW +3
  321. -> 13 HP, 11 BP, 21 POW, 12 DEF, 18 SPD, 9 HIGE
  322. Luifi Level 3 -> POW +3
  323. -> 15 HP, 12 BP, 20 POW, 14 DEF, 12 SPD, 7 HIGE
  324. CONSIDER LUIGI HIGE, SPEED
  325.  
  326.  
  327. =========
  328. 52 HP Tolstar Syrup before battle
  329. =========
  330. M: Splash (45/52) (M 8/11bp)
  331. dodge
  332. L: Bounce (40/52) (L 9/12np)
  333. M: Splash (33/52) (M 5/11bp)
  334. dodge
  335. L: Jump (31/52)
  336. M: Splash (24/52) (M 2/11bp)
  337. dodge
  338. L: Syrup on Mario (24/52) (M 11/11bp)
  339. M: Splash (17/52) (M 8/11bp)
  340. dodge
  341. L: Jump (15/52)
  342. M: Splash (8/52) (M 5/11bp)
  343. dodge
  344. L: Jump (6/52)
  345. M: Splash (-1/52) (M 2/11bp)
  346.  
  347.  
  348.  
  349. 45 HP ===========
  350. Hoohooros
  351. ===========
  352. M: Splash empty rock (m 8/11bp)
  353. L: Jump hoo rock
  354. dodge
  355. M: Splash (28/45) (m 5/11bp)
  356. L: Jump empty rock
  357. dodge
  358. M: Splash (11/45) (m 2/11bp)
  359. L: Refill Splash (m 11/11bp)
  360. dodge
  361. M: Splash Hoohooros (-6/45) (m 8/11bp)
  362.  
  363.  
  364.  
  365. 80 HP ===========
  366. Dragohoho
  367. ===========
  368. M: Splash (63/80)
  369. L: Bounce (52/80)
  370. dodge
  371. M: Splash (35/80)
  372. L: Bounce (24/80)
  373. dodge
  374. M: Splash (7/80) - ADVANCE
  375. L: Bounce (-4/80)
  376.  
  377. IF LUIGI NOT POW +2,
  378.  
  379. M: Splash (63/80)
  380. L: Bounce (55/80)
  381. dodge
  382. M: Splash (38/80)
  383. L: Bounce (30/80)
  384. dodge
  385. M: Jump (25/80)
  386. L: Bounce (17/80)
  387. dodge
  388. M: Splash (0/80) (ADV!)
  389.  
  390. 120 HP ============
  391. Queen Bean
  392. ============
  393. M: Advanced Splash (80/120)
  394. L: Jump
  395. dodge
  396. M: Advanced Splash (40/120)
  397. L: Jump
  398. dodge
  399. M: Advanced Splash (0/120)
  400. Level up: Mario level 6
  401. -> 16 HP, 12 BP, 35 POW, 17 DEF, 25 SPD, 11 HIGE
  402. Luigi level 6
  403. -> 19 HP, 15 BP, 32 POW, 19 DEF,a 17 SPD, 9 or 12 HIGE
  404.  
  405.  
  406. Before Popple & Rookie, consider:
  407. Pea Badge on Mario
  408. Pea Badge on Luigi
  409. Pea Badge on Mario & Luigi (SHOP VISIT)
  410. Pea Badge on neither (NO SHOP VISIT)
  411. Shop Visit frames: 1053 ML, 967 M, 967 L
  412. No Shop Visit frames: 418
  413.  
  414. ---------
  415. Pea Badge on Mario:
  416. -> 16 HP, 14 BP, 47 POW, 21 DEF, 25 SPD, 11 HIGE
  417. otherwise Bean Badge
  418. -> 16 HP, 18 BP, 43 POW, 21 DEF, 25 SPD, 11 HIGE (+4 BP, -3 POW --- BP won't change for Rookie)
  419.  
  420. Pea Badge on Luigi:
  421. -> 21 HP, 17 BP, 40 POW, 24 DEF, 17 SPD, 9 HIGE
  422. otherwise NO BADGE
  423. -> 21 HP, 15 BP, 32 POW, 24 DEF, 17 SPD, 9 HIGE (-2 BP, -12 POW)
  424.  
  425.  
  426. NO BADGE SHOP:
  427. Mario Splash damage - 32
  428. Luigi Bounce damage - 14
  429. Total Bros. damage - 46
  430.  
  431. Mario Jump Damage - 10
  432. Luigi Jump Damage - 4
  433. Mario LJump Damage - 21
  434. Luigi LJump Damage - 9
  435.  
  436. ROOKIE: if 39 HP left (or less), LONG ANIMATION.
  437.  
  438. M: Splash (88/120)
  439. L: LJump? (79/120)
  440.  
  441. Luigi 32 POW
  442. Splash ABA - 32
  443. Splash AB - 26
  444. Splash A - 13
  445. Splash - 6
  446. Bounce BAB - 14
  447. Bounce BA - 11
  448. Bounce B - 5
  449. Bounce - 2
  450. M Jump - 10
  451. M LuckJump - 21
  452. L Jump - 4
  453. L LuckJump - 9
  454.  
  455. Luigi 30 POW
  456. Bounce BAB - 11
  457. Bounce BA - 9
  458. Bounce B - 4
  459. Bounce - 2 bad
  460. L Jump - 3
  461. L LuckJump - 7
  462.  
  463. Luigi 28 POW
  464. Bounce BAB - 9
  465. Bounce BA - 7
  466. Bounce B - 3 bad
  467. Bounce - 1
  468. L Jump - 3
  469.  
  470.  
  471. 30 POW?
  472. dodge
  473. M: Splash ABA (88/120)
  474. L: Bounce BA (79/120)
  475. dodge
  476. M: Splash ABA (47/120)
  477. L: Bounce B (43/120)
  478. dodge
  479. M: Splash ABA (11/120)
  480. L: Bounce BAB (0/120!)
  481.  
  482. 28 POW?
  483. dodge
  484. M: Splash ABA (88/120)
  485. L: Bounce BAB (79/120)
  486. dodge
  487. M: Splash ABA (47/120)
  488. L: Bounce BA (40/120)
  489. dodge
  490. M: Splash ABA ( 8/120)
  491. L: Bounce BAB (-1/120)
  492. let Popple kill Luigi
  493.  
  494.  
  495.  
  496. WIGGLER
  497. counter 1
  498. M: jump 4
  499. L: jump 3
  500. counter 2
  501. M: Splash ABA -> 351f
  502. Splash AB -> 351f (same effect)
  503. Chopper AB -> 334f -> 17f faster
  504. M: Chopper AB (dead)
  505.  
  506. CHUCKOLATOR LOL
  507. LJump : 1
  508. bounce: 41
  509. choppr: 65
  510. Ochppr: 55
  511. dodge
  512. M: Chopper -> Breaks Shield (6 A presses required)
  513. L: Bounce (259/300) (41 dmg)
  514. dodge
  515. M: Choppr (204/300) (55 dmg, 17 AP)
  516. L: Bounce (163/300) (41 dmg)
  517. dodge
  518. M: Choppr (102/300) (61 dmg, 23 AP)
  519. L: Bounce ( 61/300) (41 dmg)
  520. dodge
  521. M: Choppr ( 0/300) (61 dmg, 23 AP)
  522. ^ 481 frames faster than
  523.  
  524. No avoid
  525. When big: 25, 6, 6, 3, 3, 1... (65)
  526. Whensmol: 17, 4, 4, 2, 2, 1... (51)
  527. dodge
  528. M: Chopper -> shield
  529. L: Knockb. (259/300) (41 dmg)
  530. dodge
  531. M: Chopper (194/300) (65 dmg)
  532. L: Knockb. (153/300) (41 dmg)
  533. dodge
  534. M: Chopper ( 88/300) (65 dmg)
  535. L: Knockb. ( 47/300) (41 dmg)
  536. counter (+12hp, 1dmg) ( 58/300)
  537. M: Chopper ( 7/300) (51 dmg)
  538. L: Knockb. fail ( 0/300) (Knockb. fail is <<<ONE FRAME>>> faster than good knockback.
  539.  
  540. dodge
  541. L: Jump
  542. M: Chopper -> Shield
  543. dodge
  544. L: Knockb. (259/300) (41 dmg)
  545. M: Chopper (204/300) (55 dmg)
  546. dodge
  547. L: Knockb. (163/300) (41 dmg)
  548. M: Chopper (108/300) (55 dmg)
  549. Get Luigi hit
  550. L: Knockb. ( 67/300) (41 dmg)
  551. M: Chopper ( 2/300) (65 dmg)
  552. get Luigi dead, Chuck HP: 2 -> 14
  553. M: LUCKY Hammer ( ?/300)
  554.  
  555. dodge
  556. M: Chopper -> shield
  557. L: Knockb. (259/300) (41 dmg)
  558. dodge
  559. M: Chopper (194/300) (65 dmg)
  560. L: Knockb. (153/300) (41 dmg)
  561. dodge
  562. M: Chopper ( 88/300) (65 dmg)
  563. L: Knockb. ( 47/300) (41 dmg)
  564. counter (+13hp, 1dmg) ( 59/300)
  565. M: Chopper ( 9/300) (51 dmg)
  566. L: dead (poison) ( 9/300)
  567. counter (5/300)
  568. M: Hammer (-5/300)
  569. 6012 frames
  570.  
  571.  
  572. if speed at hohoros, then dragohoho:
  573. dodge
  574. M: Jump (75/80)
  575. L: bounce (67/80)
  576. d
  577. M: that (50/80)
  578. L: bounce (42/80)
  579. d
  580. M: that (25/80)
  581. L: bounce (17/80)
  582. d
  583. M: that (0/80) -> not worth it.
  584.  
  585.  
  586. Popple & Rookie 2:
  587. Chopper: 68 (26 AP)
  588. Chopper: 58 (17 AP)
  589. Knockb.: 42
  590. Total : 110
  591. Total2 : 100
  592. Turns needed: 3
  593.  
  594. Trunkle:
  595. if Mom Piranha +pow2, 3 turn possible. A couple frames faster for Trunkle. 3 turn possible without +pow2, but Luigi has to hit Trunkle (4 frames slower) and Mario has to do a full 26 hit second turn (2 frames slower)
  596.  
  597. Chop 26AP (31/60)
  598. Jump top (30/60) (+4f)
  599. Chop 26AP ( 1/60) (+2f)
  600. Jump bottm( 1/60)
  601. Jump top ( 0/60)
  602.  
  603. no pow+2 -> SIX FRAMES SLOWER.
  604. if no dying:
  605. Chop 26AP (31/60)
  606. Jump top (30/60) (+4f)
  607. Chop 26AP ( 1/60) (+2f)
  608. Jump top ( 0/60) (+4f)
  609.  
  610. Hermie: 400/26 = 16
  611. Popple: 520/26 = 20
  612. Jojora's friend:500/26 = 20
  613. Birdo: 450/26 = 18
  614. Iggy: 550/26 = 22
  615. Everything up to Bowletta is fine.
  616. Conclusion: try to get 22 Mush power BEFORE Piranha Bean, otherwise 22 before Iggy.
  617.  
  618. Hermie: (#1 trousers mario)
  619. Chopper: dead lol
  620. (KILLING LUIGI AND HAVING TWO LEVEL UPS IS SLOWER BY 37 FRAMES)
  621.  
  622. Cackletta: Luigi surviving is a timeloss is 1494 frames.
  623.  
  624. Hermie -> three more beanstars to go: Popple, shirt, fruits.
  625. Piranha Bean last? (Mushrooms!!), Do shirt guy while scavenging for fruits. -> a few extra mushrooms?
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