Slack Discussion

<eam> speaking about slack being crap, I filed an issue today about /part not actually parting a channel. Their response is that "yeah, we don't want irc clients to leave channels when they quit. Use the web UI if you want to leave a channel"
<eam> it's amazing to me that anyone uses this product
<bdha> Yeah, that's definitely a blocker of a thing. ;)
<bdha> Compared to everything else it does right.
<Twirrim> wat
<Twirrim> seems so bizarre
<kjetilho> sounds reasonable to me
<eam> it's absurdly stupid
<kjetilho> I guess they could implement a magic reason to /part
<eam> anyone who wants their braindead behavior is going to be using their client
<eam> IRC users will have their clients set to join on start
<eam> because, you know, that's how IRC works
<eam> their IRC gateway is a shitshow in general though. Far from the worst bug I've encountered with it
<eam> we hit one where an org over a few hundred people broke the protocol entirely
<kjetilho> how does it work if you are connected both with web UI and IRC ?
<eam> because of their behavior of forcing you into #general
<kjetilho> you have only one user, right?
<eam> (which also I think taught us that they didn't have any large customers ...)
<kjetilho> so if /part quit the channel, it would quit the web ui as well?
<eam> that's something they could implement any way they wish
<eam> this is all centeralized so it's not like "joining" is making a copy of any data
<kjetilho> so what happens when you /part ?  your IRC client gets bogus activity from a channel it thinks you're not in?
<eam> I haven't looked at what it's doing at the protocol level, but irssi appears to act as if I've just joined
<eam> I think what I need to do is script up a filter
<eam> they also force join everyone into a huge global channel, and originally you couldn't squelch it so it was a huuuuuge source of distraction
<eam> but now they let admins mute it
<eam> can't not join it though. I'm sure it was some horrible idea by someone with enough influence to make it stick despite complaints
<eam> I'm looking forward to slack joining exchange and lotus notes in the bit bucket