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  1. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/230925337
  2.  
  3. 2 sections of this paste, 1 for stuff I highly recommend and one for stuff I think are good to consider but I don't necessarily recommend as much atm
  4.  
  5.  
  6. ===============================================================
  7. ***Easy/Low Variance/Minor/idk how hard, maybe easy/somewhat hard but I was too lazy to add to other section:
  8. ===============================================================
  9.  
  10. * 1st Cycle movement after exiting granny; saves frames (only Sausage does this atm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zUYMDElKo&t=9m43s
  11.  
  12. * After hidden owl, pull bomb asap for recoil past guard (saves ~1s)
  13.  
  14. * pull bomb sooner for Twin Island superslide (you can pull bomb at the end of the first bridge on the small island, just like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zUYMDElKo&t=31m22s)
  15.  
  16. * when exiting goron shrine, instead of doing sidehop after backwalk, good to just start walking when you get to corner and then do rolls
  17.  
  18. * pull bomb on lens platforms for recoil flip (pull bomb halfway through your jump from the 3rd platform to the 4th platform; there are 6 total platforms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbjQGk0ARXo&t=2)
  19.  
  20. * take off goron mask and shoot bomber balloon a bit farther away from Jim, you can sidehop closer to him after shooting arrow
  21.  
  22. * Faster fairy reward cs skip (saves a lot considering you do it 3 times): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/230119155?t=1h9m25s
  23. (the twitch vod has the whole thing including the movement, the backwalk at the start is good since it allows for early bomb pull, this youtube video explains the inputs for the clip (see the input display): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot_9oJk8IcU)
  24.  
  25. * good to do movement from fairy fountain to deku 1 without targeting before rolling off the ledge (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5frf-iXHpTM)
  26.  
  27. * c-upless 3 bomb hover to enter PF (line up zora's head with hookshot target when moving up the slope, then shield turn down-left ish and pull bomb when you get close to goron switch; I haven't messed with this myself but seems like it shouldn't be hard)
  28.  
  29. * pf sewer movement (really easy and fastest movement I've found; just be sure you wait a little before after the curl before you to up-right input): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFYQFidgox4 (read video description)
  30.  
  31. * draw hookshot when you sidehop down the stairs in oceanside
  32.  
  33. * in oceanside mask room, hookshot the 3 chandelier skulltulas while you're on the mask AND hookshot the skulltula crawling along the ceiling while you're on the mask as well. This saves ~4.5s according to boo (this vid shows concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1zuKHwbH-4)
  34.  
  35. * Do the last room of oceanside how it is done in this video, this is a faster route: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx7vH5mZdww
  36. UPDATE: new way of doing last room; no idea how hard this is (use down-right for weirdshot), but it probably only saves a couple seconds or so, possibly hard to do well, idk: https://twitter.com/TVand/status/966205946182733826
  37.  
  38. * pull bomb asap after exiting observatory before picking up moon's tear (pay attention to how he moves down a bit after collecting the tear to influence the camera so that you can still see the bomb): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/48217628?t=58m38s
  39.  
  40. * catch fish before midnight meeting as goron instead of human because goron catches things faster than other forms (4 frames faster iirc)
  41.  
  42. * I think this movement to kamaro (goron roll off ledge) is good instead of jumping off the ledge as human: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdloaH0QNDo&t=1h20m27s
  43.  
  44. * when goron rolling to enter snowhead temple, there's a big ramp you roll up before the wolfos appear. You want to try to roll off the ramp on the very left side of it you reduce the amount of time you're in the air during your spike roll (possible to actually get no air time); getting air time is slow, reducing it is fast; same reason why ramp skip on path to snowhead is done in glitchless
  45.  
  46. * faster way to melt ice after fire arrow (saves ~1s iirc, it is easy; read video description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-d7BtQXcQ
  47.  
  48. * use 2 bombs to blow up wall in snowhead compass room (this way you can pull bomb during your jump): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh3x4HM8qrs
  49.  
  50. * after stray fairy chest in room with small key chest inside the snowball, boo says it's better to sidehop off the ledge instead of grabbing ledge + dropping
  51.  
  52. * for bubble fairy in the ceiling in the puzzle room, you can hookshot it without doing any movement after entering the room, I recommend drawing hookshot at door, then hookshotting the bottle asap, then quickspinning the 2 pots for potential bomb drops while waiting for the fairy (bomb drops here are good because will give you better bomb count when you enter stone tower temple)
  53.  
  54. * before alcove fairy, it's better to just roll off up-left (and figure out exactly what to do with your control stick while you're falling, this should be relatively easy) instead of walking forward + sidehopping off
  55.  
  56. * get used to bombs on c-down for last part of snowhead or something, lol (I saw you reequip bombs onto c-left; each time you equip an item to a c button, it is .4s)
  57.  
  58. * after picking up the powder keg for the first time, do a backwalk before throwing it up the first ramp, you have a good angle and no risk of targeting anything and you can use the crate coming onto the camera for a visual cue for when to throw the keg
  59.  
  60. * learn to skip picking up keg an extra time (read video description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhYT-tjKpXM
  61.  
  62. * when doing movement to center of first room in STT (after voiding in map room), I think it is best to use zora for movement to center so there's no risk of grabbing ledge and then shoot eye switch from center; if you do it well the enemies shouldn't give you trouble. Then, after opening the chest, since you don't get a magic drop from the grass, it's actually better to just do the human ledge grab as it gives a more direct path to the door (technically possible for tas to skip ledge grab, but even with ledge grab it is better) [worth noting that your PB had a big mistake here when doing the jump as human and getting knocked down; I think using zora for jump never has any problems like this if you do it correctly]
  63.  
  64. * skip doing sidehop before pulling bomb for long jump in airdraft room, just pull bomb asap, walk up-left a bit, drop bomb, slash to edge, turn right, slash sword once, then hold left after long jump/before JS recoil
  65.  
  66. * Skip taking damage from fire an extra time for stray fairy chest before garo (this is very easy, trust me. Just tap control stick so you face chest instead of walking into the fire): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDPQZTW3qhY
  67.  
  68. * Use hookshot on garo master (this can save a couple seconds) like in this video EXCEPT do a normal razor slash instead of a crouch stab for the last hit on garo master since it is faster and garo master only has 14 health (then while waiting for him to die, do a razor JS just to store damage since you're waiting anyway): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWXamS_qabw
  69.  
  70. * faster bomb strat in hiploop room, this is easy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLpGZ-qErhI
  71.  
  72. * after stray fairy chest in hiploop room, it's actually faster to hookshot the hookshot target on the ceiling on the side of the target close to the little platform you jump from instead of hookshoting the other side of the target and doing JS recoil, because if you hookshot the target on the other side, you can hold direction on your control stick so that you land on the little platform without doing the JS recoil (can't find good video, let me know if this explanation doesn't make sense to you; also the fact that it's faster not to JS recoil here is why I mentioned storing razor JS after last hit on garo)
  73.  
  74. * faster to do eyegore superslide at an angle so you land in corner after superslide
  75.  
  76. * faster to find visual cue for bow clip for crystal switch after eyegore superslide instead of doing roll + c-up through wall (this might work for you; read video description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjqS5cICrss
  77.  
  78. * in general, there is a faster way of doing bow clip (good for crystal switch and for flipping STT): https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulHorribleWombatPhilosoraptor (have bow drawn, then press target, then press bow the frame after; you can hold target for between 2 and 5 frames, inclusively)
  79.  
  80. * after beamos hookshot clip, good to jump into water as human while waiting for stray fairy text to go away (and if you do it perfectly, you will land under the bridge so putting on zora mask will be faster)
  81.  
  82. * not that hard to do chu hover before upside down chest in ISTT unbuffered; worth considering
  83.  
  84. * Do not shoot sun block in ISTT updraft room and do not use deku. Not shooting the sun block saves ~9s (assuming you still don't use deku) and using deku wastes more time on top of this. Use Seedborn's sun block clip that doesn't need good diagonal (and read the video description as there is an image with an angle range there): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whSgUgxclYg
  85. After you clip with the roll clip, you will want to target asap and pull bomb asap and then hit down on control stick to stop your momentum, then hold down-right on control stick to guanowalk a bit, then backwalk into airdraft (basically, copy the movement in this video, but with slightly different block clip strat): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQaTEZfi1ow
  86.  
  87. * I think elegy chest with hookshot strat is easy to do unbuffered because it is same timing as the flaming chest before garo master (if you fail, you will grab ledge instead of fall down if you did the setup correctly)
  88.  
  89. * can pull bomb earlier for STT BK Skip and do 2 slash strat instead of 3 slash strat
  90.  
  91. * during STT BK Skip, instead of backflipping into Twinmold's loading zone, turn and do a Jumpslash (your sword is already drawn; same concept of how people used to enter gyorg cs in any%)
  92.  
  93. * Swamp Spider House: This is a faster way to do movement after climbing the ladder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2uZPEn0COY
  94.  
  95. * Swamp Spider House: When killing the 8th skulltula (the one on the balcony), I see you do a quickspin through the pillar, but you can just do a normal vertical slash through the pillar (and this is faster than a quickspin)
  96.  
  97. * Woodfall Temple: Draw fire arrow at gekko door, use fire arrow for first hit on gekko
  98.  
  99. * Woodfall Temple: Boo says it's best to just backwalk asap in dark room instead of killing boes at start and after lighting 3rd torch to walk to center a bit and do a few quickspins
  100.  
  101. * Woodfall Temple:
  102. Faster Recoil Flip Method to get to main room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGNAAeV3R1c
  103. Faster way of doing JS recoil to main room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ijwZa2Yno
  104.  
  105. * Woodfall Temple: do this movement after last stray fairy instead of jumping into water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L81fuzUW70
  106.  
  107. * in purified woodfall, goron roll under the ramp thing and turn deku under the ramp thing so you pop up through it
  108.  
  109. * isg mega + 2 chus works for scarecrow HP (backwalk to ledge a bit after getting isg), but if you use 3 chus it is really safe
  110.  
  111. * faster ice clip setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY04Ti3ysEM
  112.  
  113. * after deku 2, can just climb fence as human instead of deku gainer, then do human movement to sct, then do this movement to hit clock town owl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GjBLCMTgQc
  114.  
  115. * SKIP THE POOL RUPEES AFTER PENDANT, you don't need them, keep GFS equipped and JS across (instead, get the 50r pot while waiting for dampe's elevator, you can get both this and the wall master 50r pretty easily)
  116.  
  117. * do faster indextrick:
  118. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCmSejdEvHk
  119. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVkIhPCUdk
  120.  
  121. * turn so that you're facing away from the boulder before punching the boulder above biobaba grotto (this will recoil you slightly closer to the grotto)
  122.  
  123. * in biobaba grotto, if HP lands in water, this is fast way to enter + exit the water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7sA_EEzSk&t=9s
  124.  
  125. * after fish HP, make sure you jump to grab ledge of egg tank to skip climbing the ladder
  126.  
  127. * do pirate cs skip with fish (1 pause pcs is best)
  128.  
  129. * do goron strat in GBT (not super mandatory, but it's good)
  130.  
  131. * GBT compass high ledge grab + pot fairy with zora barrier after small key chest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ-hfxxW1cw
  132. (this makes equips better, see: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17IrU-sLt9wEjFKLv2vpolhSz4iNqf1_7f6SpYILu5Rk/edit#gid=175905508)
  133.  
  134. * before unlocking small key door in GBT, instead of hopping up the little ledge it's better to do an up-backflip to get up it (technically gainer is better, but hardl I suggest up backflip)
  135.  
  136. * high ledge grab before gekko is fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY00Mx5C1wg
  137.  
  138. * faster gyorg fight: find good visual cue for gyorg like people do in any% and sidehop down asap and swim to gyorg for first hit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1209jdDBQ
  139.  
  140. * zora high ledge grab before double defense (this isn't that hard once you get the timing for when to press B): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFnF3dn2DA0
  141.  
  142. * drop chu to blow up boulders in front of double defense fountain, then turn goron after dropping chu (see equips here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17IrU-sLt9wEjFKLv2vpolhSz4iNqf1_7f6SpYILu5Rk/edit#gid=175905508) (iirc goron was good for entering + exiting fountain, but maybe worth retiming just to be sure)
  143.  
  144. * pull bomb asap for long jump for off of the hookshot target after torch minigame; also if you do sideways long jump you can get faster ledge grab (the ledge grab you get with current strat is slow because he pops up and regrabs ledge), no video for this, but not too bad to figure out
  145.  
  146. * sidehop to grab ledge before graveyard after stone mask, can do left sidehop a bit before where the ledge starts, probably smaller chance of being hit by blue bubble
  147.  
  148. * after exiting song of storms, goron roll and take off goron mask BEFORE the first gap in the floor. Then pull bomb, then jump across the 2 gaps, then do the long jump (free time save by pulling bomb earlier) and THEN do GFS JS to skip ledge grab
  149.  
  150. * no reason not to get pot 50r while waiting for Dampe
  151.  
  152. * fast goron village HP (good because we don't have many chus): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgsEEtelaw
  153.  
  154. * after soaring to ikana before poe house, learn to get magic drop from grass without having to restart your goron roll so you get spikes faster
  155.  
  156. * when doing poe house HP, you can moving during the little cutscene for when the blue/red poes appear, you can time a frame perfect Jump Slash to kill one of the two poes right as the cutscene is about to end. There's no reason not to at least go for this since attempting it doesn't really lose time
  157.  
  158. * If you pause buffer the gibdo clip setup, then it's better to do the other gibdo clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF805IpcZvQ&t=5m44s (EXCEPT, do not do a superslide, just backwalk (superslide is actually slow); it's not too hard to do this c-upless, I could've skipped the c-up in the video, pay attention to where I put link's feet; this is only 1s slower than other strat assuming no pause buffers/no superslide, so if you pause buffer the other strat then this one is faster)
  159.  
  160. * change your gibdo house movement (do the fastest one in this video EXCEPT after you get to the bottom of the stairs, do not backwalk + sidehop, instead turn to walk + roll into the trigger; if you SoDT earlier for blast mask, stuff like this will actually matter): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMV-3iYumcc
  161.  
  162. * don't zora gainer in ikana castle during blast mask segment (the sun block hover is actually the fastest option in real time because of equips + mask transitions), do sun block hover instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCIXvIb4lpk
  163. (sun block hover is best regardless of whether or not you weirdshot to mirror shield; weirdshot to mirror shield is fastest option, I compiled timings/equips for this segment here: https://pastebin.com/5aGsX3YN
  164.  
  165. * don't start your hover to ikana castle HP so far away, if you're a bit closer it'll be more efficient since you won't have to do distance hovers at the end
  166.  
  167. * weirdshot in mirror shield saves ~5.28s, but is maybe hard? See line 140 of this pastebin for equips/notes: https://pastebin.com/5aGsX3YN
  168.  
  169. * Aliens Segment:
  170. - should be faster to wear bunny hood a bit for movement after soaring to ikana before turning zora
  171. - optimal to shoot sun switch from far away (faster aiming), but easier to miss so it is risky, to be safe do bunny hood movement up to switch, then shoot, instead of zora movement
  172. - you soared to milk road at around 3:16 igt, you did not need to use timestop. The latest you can soar to milk road and skip timestop is 3:25 (but imo, 3:23 and earlier is really safe if you know how to do aliens; I highly recommend shooting the aliens in front of the barn BEFORE shooting the one behind the barn. This seems to be counter intuitive to most people, but the ones in front of the barn get blocked by the door [and there are more of them that you'd have to blindly shoot once they get really close] and the one before the barn is easy to hit with good visual cue [and the one behind the barn only gets closer to you as time passes, meaning it becomes a bigger target and thus easier to shoot, so it really is best to do it last]). With practice, aliens are not hard. In this video, I soar to milk road at 3:23 igt and I successfully made it to aliens even with a somewhat significant input mistake (namely, broken control stick made me turn left before aiming bow, which lost "a lot" of time when trying to shoot the first aliens in front of the barn). Pay attention to where I stop my goron roll and where I aim the bow for the one behind the barn.
  173.  
  174. * When storing SoDT during aliens, it is best to fall oob for a bit before stopping yourself with the last hover before the ocarina dive; this allows more igt to pass
  175.  
  176. * It is optimal to do chu crap at gossip stone after aliens (see the equips, etc.): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17IrU-sLt9wEjFKLv2vpolhSz4iNqf1_7f6SpYILu5Rk/edit#gid=175905508
  177.  
  178. * If you failed 2nd item recovery, it is faster to store SoT before curiosity clip (but this assumes you did chu crap in ranch, or else you lose chus of course)
  179.  
  180. * Get HP isg for clock tower hover instead of sign isg (should save a few seconds; this is easy to practice with Jimmie's new cheats)
  181.  
  182. * chu hovers (chu chest isg, backflip onto chest, 5 hovers) to skip ladder in twinmold trial (this skips playing song at first gossip (ideally you enter moon with ~15 chus)
  183.  
  184. * possible to do fast movement in goht trial, like skipping targeting the wall at the start. Harder movement after HP also exists, but maybe not worth doing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLr-j5tJ_64)
  185.  
  186. * wrath quick kill (idk where video of this is, I think sva has one)
  187.  
  188.  
  189.  
  190. ===============================================================
  191. ***Harder/Higher Variance/Less Priority/Notes (making note of some of this stuff just because it's nice to be aware of; some of it isn't very hard though):
  192. ===============================================================
  193.  
  194. * 99r Cycle 1 from TF instead of Inn saves ~9s
  195.  
  196. * 8 chu hidden owl (saves a few seconds and good for swamp gossips route): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdDDxonJP_M (this is easy if you can megaflip)
  197.  
  198. * Swamp Gossips/Monkey Text Skip/Optimized Chu Route in Woodfall 1 (if still doing ocean gossips, 1 chu sonata staircase would let you use an extra chu in oceanside which would save you a few seconds)
  199.  
  200. * goron shrine seamwalk
  201.  
  202. * pull bomb during hess after goron shrine for long jump + JS onto invisible platform
  203.  
  204. * you did this accidentally in your 4:57, but to get the fast cucco bomber strat, you need the side of curled goron to hit him while he is midair, if you accidentally hit him with the front of your roll, he will think you tried to catch him as goron and it'll be slow, so this is risky (I never actually timed how much this saves; I think it is very minor)
  205.  
  206. * HESS + superswim to PF after getting zora mask is fast
  207.  
  208. * Not sure if backflip over counter as goron is necessarily fastest movement to midnight meeting, might be slightly, rolling around seems like it isn't too much slower; worth timing perhaps
  209.  
  210. * This chu hover to fairy chest saves roughly 3.4s during STT Map Early (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4MMYtSl3AI)
  211.  
  212. * Saves roughly 3s to do 2nd frame weirdshot to get stray fairy behind sun block in first trip to mirror room in STT, then in 2nd trip you shoot the sun switch with light arrow, turn goron asap, then get stray fairy chest + exit stt (I think kyle's PB probably does this if you want to see it)
  213.  
  214. * fast ISTT long jump (without magic drop): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM8i65oIw6Y
  215. fast ISTT long jump (with magic drop): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLvbtzDQSVE
  216.  
  217. * possible to pull bomb for recoil to eyegore really early with a backflip, probably not hard with practice but I haven't tested it much
  218.  
  219. * giant's mask on twinmold is fast
  220.  
  221. * gainer onto branch thing after mask of truth is probably faster than lilly pad jump, idk how much faster; worth timing
  222.  
  223. * Deku princess cs skip saves ~8s (4 pauses is best you can do), see movement in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97AuhXUE6xk
  224. Also, if you do deku princess cs skip, GFS is best on odolwa (see equips here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17IrU-sLt9wEjFKLv2vpolhSz4iNqf1_7f6SpYILu5Rk/edit#gid=175905508) (I forget if gfs is worth it if you don't do deku princess cs skip)
  225.  
  226. * Faster deku 2 strat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwY43YvcmYM
  227.  
  228. * skip crystal switch in butler race, skip mask transitions possibly
  229.  
  230. * SoDT earlier for blast mask
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