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  1. ... so upDate... on our say AmigaOne x8000/40 Power8 or say PowerBook G9 :)
  2.  
  3. 3 prototypes are made, some test signaling allready done...:
  4.  
  5. https://web.archive.org/web/20221214223221/https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/2022/12/prototypes-produced-lets-go-on-hardware-tests/
  6.  
  7. https://web.archive.org/web/20230320052351/https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/2023/02/prototypes-testing-results/
  8.  
  9. https://hackaday.com/2022/12/09/an-open-source-powerpc-notebook-edges-closer/
  10.  
  11. ... on aboveMentioned pri$€: as a notForProfit Foundation, we don"t make a Product,
  12. but do a Project; high probability that Product will be done by our 1.st outSourcer
  13. aCube from Italy (preOrdering, not crowdSourcing/Funding), notebook case by 2.nd outSourcer
  14. SlimBook Spain (Eclipse model); some stuff they outSource even to China further in the
  15. line...so we initially projected the Zone of 6oo - 8oo €u, correcting that later to 1ooo €u,
  16. but some components got increase in cost even like +3000% :-O , so that target is now,
  17. 2023/3 rather questionable... we even had to lower 5 to 3 prototypes...
  18.  
  19. ...we just had maybe even 60-&-some-th colaboration IRC chat meeting, on our now
  20. "PowerBoard Tyche" PowerPC/Power8 notebook... :-) 🐧
  21.  
  22. Topics planned were...of which we managed to grasp mabe first two...rest next time...:
  23.  
  24. ***************Topics****************************
  25. 1. Gnu uBoot firmware / deviceTree progress upDate
  26. 2. CPLD progress upDate
  27. 3. Components upDate
  28. 4. Miscelenious:
  29. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
  30. a) proposal of Valve (?) guy for porting valwe goldSource
  31. HalfLife engine; idea for SteamOS (Debian Gnu, Arch) PPC64 endianBig
  32. (AltiVecTorUnit / VelocityEngine supp) In multiBoot on notebook, with
  33. AmigaOS 4.1 finEd, MorphOS 3.17, ArOS 2.3 ; snapShop from
  34. PowerProgressCommunity Discord
  35.  
  36. https://pastebin.com/8D5DAhL8
  37.  
  38. The rest of talk at Discord
  39.  
  40. b) possibility of bringing PowerBoard Tyche prototypes to Dors Cluc Linux
  41. Convention on booth / stand in May + possible lecture of it in May 11.th - 12.th
  42.  
  43. https://www.dorscluc.org/
  44. https://www.dorscluc.org/category/news/
  45.  
  46. c) AmigaEvent38 october 7.th 2023 ?
  47.  
  48. http://amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2023-03-00028-DE.html
  49.  
  50. d) Riccardo Sw thread: ArcticFox fork PaleMoon last nonRust FireFox 52
  51. & rest of bigEndian builds for MacPPC, LinuxPPC, bsdPPC, AmigaPPC (?)
  52. *****************************************************************************
  53.  
  54. some history...:
  55.  
  56. yeah, the Journey was hellOfaRide, when Roberto Inocenti put first article on his
  57. Delirio Tecnologico Blog ... & started OSHW avalanche… i think in 2014... :)
  58.  
  59. http://deliriotecnologico.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2015-03-13T10:06:00%2B01:00&max-results=8&start=10&by-date=false
  60.  
  61. so roughly, idea 2014, Project in 2015 started & Power Progress Community nonProfit Foundation
  62. in 2016 (which later beCame memeber of OpenPower, which with The Linux Foundation owns
  63. Open Sourced PowerPC/Power PowerISA Patent Rights now)...
  64.  
  65. a lot of history & clarification is covered in these presentations, from many FreeLibreOpen SW HW & AmigaOne (read Power6 & 7, we build Power8) events…:
  66.  
  67. https://www.youtube.com/@PowerProgressCommunity
  68.  
  69. https://web.archive.org/web/20230307113853/https://www.powerprogress.org/en/
  70.  
  71. …allthough, in early stage, we considered even "Dome" ddrFormFactor serverOnChip SoC of bigBlue
  72. (which is used in sqareKilometerArray of radioTelescopes), as a "PPC Foundation" for our mobo,
  73. we choosed aCube (besides A-Eon, one of 2 firms that build Power6 & 7 AmigaOnes, as well
  74. as PPC SOCs), as our main outSourcer & builder, so the notebook will be quadC0re,
  75. octaThread, & capable of both endianess, as all Power7+,8,9 & beyond ISAs CPU archs,
  76. & support AltiVec(tor) Unit / Velocity Engine, so VMX VSX is available, but only in eg.
  77. Debian GNU/LinuxPPC64 endianBig byteOrdering scheme (older, & onlyOne possible on Power7 &
  78. beLow, 6, G5 (64bit), G4 (which is present in 1.st iterations of AmigaOne hw also, later
  79. A-One hw ending in Power6 & 7), G3 (Atari RioRed Dream), G2 (legendary Phase5 603e BlizzardPPC
  80. hybrid aSymetric multiProcesing: m68k-ppc32 contextSwitching)...
  81.  
  82. intelByteOrdering is more atractive for c0ders & developers / testers, coz sourceC0de needs
  83. little to none intervention, due to fact that it is primarily targeted to x86 ISA CPU arch
  84.  
  85. interestingly, Intel added 512 bit vector unit 26 years late :)
  86. ok, misUse of segmentationMechanism for memoryProtection/virtualisation is all the
  87. Evil in the World :-O longLinear MMU flat memoryModel rULeZ \o/ & addsUp to better
  88. c0deDensity... 🐧
  89.  
  90. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltiVec
  91.  
  92. the problem we are now facing, after not the LibreBoot, not C0reBoot(ex linuxBios), but
  93. Gnu uBoot firmware & deviceTree will be written, is that Debian in Rel 9 ditched endianBig
  94. from Stable Release, & Debian 10 Buster egzists only in endianLittle / intelByteOrdering
  95. for PPC64, rendering AltiVecTor Unit / VelocityEngine unUsable, coz same register set is
  96. used for byteOrder mangling… :/
  97.  
  98. https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
  99.  
  100. regarding OS-es & userLand apps, there are some ideas to crossPort all popular enthusiastic
  101. Platforms as well, like AmigaOS 4.1 upDate 6 / FinalEdition EnhancSw, MorphOS 3.17, ArOS 2.3,
  102. variuous system5 (openSolaris, indiana, illumos) & bsd unixes like Net, Open & FreeBSD, MacOS X
  103. OpenDarwin (Fink apt dpkg port is cool), realTime OS-es, egzotics like Haiku OpenBeOS/Zeta
  104. (which initially was made for PPC), Redox... why not Atari FreeMiNT (Floss & bsd based GEM/TOS
  105. hybrid) :) 🐧
  106.  
  107. https://web.archive.org/web/20201020084628/https://forum.powerpc-notebook.org/index.php?board=6.0
  108.  
  109. in development we used YoctoLinux & LinuxFromScratch recepies, but main development
  110. platform is Debian GNU/LinuxPPC64 endianBig... while FieniX, voidPPC, deVUAn fork, Gentoo,
  111. Arch are becoming more & more temptiing, regardless of endianess / byteOrdering :)
  112. if we don"t sucseed to return PPC64EB to Debian Gnu, we will probably maintain our own fork/
  113. port/spin... consolidation of developers time, is also an important aspect...
  114.  
  115. https://voidlinux-ppc.org/
  116.  
  117. http://vivapowerpc.eu/20210208-1330_Gentoo_installation_on_ppc64le
  118.  
  119. typeUp
  120.  
  121. dGs
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