Me: this is a pretty good question in /sg/
Me: >Sorry if this is off topic, but to the actual Syrians in this thread: What do you think about Pan-Arabism and a potential dissolution off Syria as a nation-state somewhere in the future?
>Do you think Syria has developed a real sense of nationhood since the becoming independent from the Ottomans/France in its current borders, or should it dissolve in favour of a larger Arab or Levantine nation?
Me: feel like answering it?
Me: https://8ch.net/pol/res/10273593.html#q10342967
Kebab: seriously?
Kebab: alright
Kebab: technically i can speak
Kebab: for pan arabism
Kebab: but about syrian nationality
Kebab: im dead sure
Kebab: that they always had a national pride
Kebab: about being syrians
Kebab: they were always knows
Kebab: as the levant
Kebab: ro sham
Kebab: or
Kebab: why do people think about near past
Kebab: regarding identity
Kebab: technically
Kebab: syria played a role even in the roman empire fate
Kebab: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_the_Arab
Kebab: without syrian intervention of palmyra kingdom
Kebab: the roman empire
Kebab: would have fell early
Kebab: because of the persian sassasnid
Kebab: empire
Kebab: >USA begins talks to hand Tanf region to russia
Kebab: lmfao
Me: top kek
Kebab: you know about the battle where the persians took a roman emperor captive
Me: tbh, im pretty familiar with your opinions about Syria but wanted to see if you would make a post
Kebab: and without the king of palmyra
Kebab: he would have remained a hostage?
Me: i could but i was being lazy and probably will
Kebab: i have a question actually
Kebab: do most people in this area
Me: not that familiar with roman-persian history though
Kebab: think iraq and syria
Kebab: are mostly
Kebab: new nations
Kebab: and identity?
Me: i have literally seen people argue this point, a few though familiar with greater Syrian ideals will say that Syria was historically much larger though and do know some history
Kebab: well technically
Kebab: syria went independent
Me: mostly pro-kurd leftists like to say iraq/syria were new countries and therefore balkanization doesnt matter
Kebab: after the fall of the major mesopotamian civilizations
Kebab: but technically they are still linked to it
Kebab: altough growing independent
Kebab: even when shit was going on here
Kebab: after the hera kingdom fell
Kebab: then the puzzling kingdom
Kebab: after the battle of THI-QAR
Kebab: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odaenathus
Kebab: here is an interesting read for you
Kebab: and to give
Kebab: to people
Kebab: who ask about
Kebab: syrian identity
Me: IIRC Iraq was considered a part of Syria and only became seperate after being annexed by the persians who named it after the end of the name of Syria -> iragh -> iraq
Kebab: more like the opposite
Kebab: and syria was seperated
Kebab: after iraq
Kebab: fell
Kebab: into the persians
Kebab: babylon
Kebab: precisely
Kebab: it didnt help that the assyrians
Kebab: didnt build roads
Kebab: that came later with the persians
Kebab: but they still took the sham region
Kebab: although
Kebab: peacefully
Me: i meant Syria only became seperate after Iraq was annexed by persia
Kebab: yes
Kebab: btw
Kebab: lets just say sham region
Kebab: from now on
Kebab: i dont want to keep mentioning lebanon
Kebab: and syria
Kebab: at the same time
Me: kek
Kebab: ehhhhhhh
Kebab: its fucking annoying
Kebab: they are independent in their own hippy snowflakness
Kebab: i guess lebannon is syrian kuwait
Kebab: but anyway
Kebab: on the bigger picture
Kebab: iraq syria and lebannon
Kebab: is the most complete
Kebab: and original
Kebab: countries
Kebab: in the middle east
Kebab: not some english vassal states
Kebab: that was created in the first world war
Kebab: fuck the gulf
Kebab: you know al-saud
Kebab: are hebrew
Kebab: in origin
Kebab: right?
Me: yes
Kebab: economically confederating iraq and sham region
Kebab: create one powerful country
Kebab: that sits as the crossroad of the silkroad
Kebab: and the resources would help too
Kebab: also russian bases
Kebab: in both coasts
Kebab: my only nitpick
Me: Russian bases in Iraq would be a very interesting prospect
Kebab: is the name depicting this most of the time
Kebab: greater syria
Kebab: since this will confuse people
Kebab: because the capital of the union would still be mesopotamian
Kebab: i know
Kebab: its called greater syria
Kebab: because the ideal came back in syria
Kebab: and people are nationalistic about their country first
Kebab: you know anyone that knows latin?
Me: not any traditional latin
Kebab: the land between 2 rivers
Kebab: is mesopotamia
Kebab: what would be
Kebab: the land between 2 seas
Kebab: is what im curious of
Me: what about it the word etymology?
Kebab: something compact and catchy
Kebab: to name the union
Kebab: just like mesopotamia
Kebab: as the latin name
Kebab: i guess its fair to name it something that collect everyone
Kebab: not just "syria"
Me: yes
Me: btw i am going to remove the names and post the text from this conversation to the anon in the thread
Kebab: which parts exactly?
Me: from where i asked the question to when i just said yes at the bottom unless you want me to remove anything
Kebab: its all yours
Kebab: if you need anything
Kebab: i can add
Kebab: i will add