https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172lgu1/my_concerns_over_the_art_style_and_more_open/k53j8ke/
" This game died with Brad. ***** phone games look better than this and they can be pushed out in months, not years.
Lay off the copium."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/178kvdc/2016_and_2019_still_having_hope/k51osmg/
" Once Brad passed, I lost all hope. And now with the fortnite graphics.... I feel like He would have never let that happen. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/178kvdc/2016_and_2019_still_having_hope/k51g82k/
" I'm holding out hope but it just looks like sloppy clay. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/177ba0h/screenshots_from_test/k51c1og/
" So it's Scooby Doo now instead of Disney. Maybe I can get the gang together and we can jump into the Mystery Machine and chase down Old Man Jenkins. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/177ba0h/screenshots_from_test/k4y39f0/
" Still unforgettable and generic. My idea of playing another hard core eq'ish mmo is not with these graphics. Very disappointed that they have zero direction this many years in. We were sold a bag of goods and they changed the bag. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172yk7g/corporate_needs_you_to_find_the_difference/k4wyof6/
" They both look like they were from games released around 2004? "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/177ba0h/screenshots_from_test/k4u7brv/
" I've said it before, I can get behind the style - but there is no depth to any of the textures. That needs work. That tree looks like play-doh for instance. Leaves look great from what I can see but the trunk and branches are ooph. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/177ba0h/screenshots_from_test/k4tfxdb/
" Generic city "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/177ba0h/screenshots_from_test/k4ta7ca/
" Shame. I know there's more to the game than the graphics but this changes things.
It was the similarity to things like EQ that piqued my interest because ultimately I just want a newer Everquest.
It sucks because they've used that fanbase to establish themselves and throw it to the wind once established in favour of the mainstream audience that was never bothered with the game in the first place. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/177ba0h/screenshots_from_test/k4s0df9/
" So after 10 years, all you have to show is graphics that look like they're from 2010, sweet. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16qf07c/joppa_posted_shot_of_wolf_with_facial_animation/k4ee3xq/
" Not bad for a children's game, but yeah it's pretty bad for an adult RPG. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172ykoi/i_have_a_little_thought_on_the_new_artwork/k492jfq/
" Honestly don't think it looks better than EQ1 besides technically anymore. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173sxh8/the_art_style_debate_is_a_distraction/k4745wj/
" I’m just really glad I didn’t back this game and was just watching from the sidelines. I’d feel so cheated right now, as it is it’s going to take a lot for them to convince me to buy this when it comes out. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173sxh8/the_art_style_debate_is_a_distraction/k44vbe6/
" It looks absolutely nothing like the game I’ve financially supported for almost a decade."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k44nr3j/
" My god look at that first shot... makes me sad to think we'll never get a true Everquest successor. I guess Project Quarm will have to suffice "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k44e9mh/
" I definitely agree that switching from a more realistic and specifically detailed art style versus switching to a more stylized in cartoonish Style feels like it's bait and switch. These are very specific visual Styles and when you go down One path and you're being funded directly by supporters that's a pretty radical switch to make unless you're speaking with the people supporting you and hearing their voices on such a massive change "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k446xuy/
" No wonder A.I. is such a threat. It keeps talentless hacks from writing and art. The right looks gritty and hard. The left looks like Palia. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k442zvf/
" Do I love the new art, no. Do I like it a little bit, also no.
That said if this means they eventually launch a product at all, and that it can also run above 18 frames per second I think it's worth it for the company.
Just means I really hope the gameplay is there because I don't play these games for the graphics which is why I'm still playing original EQ over something like New World... but it certainly would be a plus to have something that looks nice too. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k43rk80/
" I’m just referring to the hand painted textured look with vibrant colors. WoW graphics are good for what they are, but that’s not what I was looking for in Pantheon. The older New World’ish realism looked better IMO. Generally, once a company has a foundation in place, they keep building on it. An art change this far into development was completely unexpected.
It honestly seems like they’re trying to broaden their appeal or something to a younger crowd maybe, but brighter painted textures probably won’t make that much of a difference to whoever their targeting. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k43ojw5/
" I hadnt checked out the new art style yet but if most of it resembles that on the left then my interest in the game is greatly decreased, wow "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k43nt1s/
" I'm a little sad about the art changes. It looks like FFXIV is the end of mmos for me. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k43ivfr/
" To think that at one time I considered backing the kickstarter. So glad I didn't now. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k43bblb/
" It doesn't actually even look like World of Warcraft or palia. World of Warcraft cranked all the way up is stunning. The idea that World of Warcraft looks bad isn't outdated opinion. Palia also has a very detailed art style. This is lacking all of the detail that both of those games provide and is a legitimate downgrade from both of them. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172yk7g/corporate_needs_you_to_find_the_difference/k434u5y/
" I haven't seen anyone asking or expecting new world style graphics. I do see people upset with the new cartoon looking models they presented that are a drastic change from what has been shown and discussed for years. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k432oqn/
" Oh damn, I assumed the right side was the new, it looks so much better. Left side looks awful "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k431gbl/
" Been casually following the development of this game for years. If these comparisons are legit and indicative of the direction of the game, I'll be taking a pass. I'm looking for a gritty, more old-school feeling RPG experience. This looks more like RuneScape 3 imo. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42yy3o/
" good lord that last one looks horrifying. like the puppet from dead silence. what a meme. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42y96v/
" such a downgrade... what a shame :/
what a waste.
was so hopeful when they announced this new game, even pledged it now i know it's a dead cause."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42xana/
" The problem with this is the old art was a lie. It was hard coded assets. The game looked amazing in 2017 even. The pitch for what we would get I can go look at right now and STILL think it looks great. What we were shown as a "working" product, aka, not fake news, was what Cohh showed us unfortunately. Which looked..... yeah, not anything like we thought.
I do agree though the shift in tone is a bit much. You cant go from making Lord of the Rings and suddenly turn it into an anime.
Unfortunately this games quality has been sacrificed over and over. What was promised was a pipe dream clearly and they didn't have to talent or funding to pull it off. Its also concerning that considering how much better the still images of Pantheon looked compared to in game, what does that mean for the new images? We haven't played it yet. What if it just looks dramatically worse in action?
Definitely a project in time."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42ng0b/
" I was about to say you were the crazy one, then I realized I had the screenshots mixed up, glad I lost 200$ for nothing "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42n46t/
" I normally am unbothered by most changes, but the art “upgrade” makes me almost regret investing in Pantheon.
If I came across this game now, I wouldn’t drop a dime because of the art alone, as aesthetics are a huge part of world immersion. I didn’t sign up to play another cartoonish looking game like WoW or Palia. Though I highly doubt even if the entire community detests it, they’ll change it back. They know what’s best for the community after all. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42my8z/
" Yeah I lost hope for this game releasing a year ago. The new art style has turned me off even more. I will keep watching hoping for the best but I am guessing the only real hope for an EQ true successor will be waiting for EverQuest 3."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42mpup/
" I am not looking forward to this game anymore. That makes me sad, but I just do not have interest in this cartoon world. Please change it back pantheon staff, please read how your target audience feels. If going back won't work, then change it to something else that does. Please. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42js94/
" Ok I was going to reply that you were nuts and needed to really sit down and think about your stance. Clearly the right side was better than the left in 3 of 4 images. Then I realized new was on the left … I’m sorry for thinking negatively of you. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172lgu1/my_concerns_over_the_art_style_and_more_open/k42jhwf/
" The new models are still low poly and are worse than the placeholders "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42i8n5/
" I feel like I’m taking crazy pills when I come into these threads and see a majority of people saying they like the new art style better. Can’t help but suspect that people are feeling obligated to defend the time and financial investments they’ve made into this game. I get maintaining a positive attitude but… damn. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42axcr/
" Is the new stuff on the right or the left? The stuff on the right looks 100x better. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42bb4e/
" left side is the newer art style; right side is the older art style. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42c0hi/
" That's unfortunate! Good thing I was never too invested in this game. Seems like a massive downgrade to me. Any EQ-Likes you could recommend? "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k42471h/
" Cons in the first pic:
The tree textures in that first shot are...pretty damn awful. They look like the prismatic/chromatic skins you get from battle pass games imo - just ooph.
The underbrush foliage looks about as flat and uninteresting as it could possibly be.
Pros:
The rocks look good.
The fly traps look decent.
The trees though man...ouch. They draw your eye in not a good way. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172ykoi/i_have_a_little_thought_on_the_new_artwork/k422vj9/
" The art has absolutely no depth to it. There seems to be no Bump, Normal, or displacement maps on anything. Its just paint on a smooth surface. I dont mind toonish look to a degree, but the current implementation of it - simply doesnt do it for me.
Look at the tusk/bear thing for instance. Looking at it, does it look like you can feel the fur at all? No, it looks like you would touch it and feel nothing but plastic."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/173ah17/new_vs_old_pantheon_art_comparison_oct_2023/k422oxu/
" God damn, the older ones straight look better for every single one and the new ones only look comparible with enough density in the first one (stylistically different but at least similar-ish fidelity) and in the night one where you just can’t see most of it. It also took me way too long to realize that’s water at the bottom of the first new one and not like some weird slime path or oddly colored rock. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172yk7g/corporate_needs_you_to_find_the_difference/k3zxbdh/
" If it means anything my 5 year old daughter thinks the Pantheon graphic looks better so that’s a plus aye? "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172yk7g/corporate_needs_you_to_find_the_difference/k3zo5nh/
" My kid said it looks nothing like WOW but when did VR collaborate with Fortnite on making the game "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172yk7g/corporate_needs_you_to_find_the_difference/k3znti3/
" The one on the left looks awful and the one on the right looks nice? "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172yk7g/corporate_needs_you_to_find_the_difference/k3zpu29/
" The one on the left is from 2004 lol.. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172lgu1/my_concerns_over_the_art_style_and_more_open/k3yp7y8/
" It looks like a generic clone of wow. Its not "lovely". All of the money acquired from us to you, was based on a number of promises? direction? vision? These graphics say otherwise. Your brought us in to let us down. Pretty much every developer out there these days operate like this. I'm not 12, I am 51. I don't want fisher price graphics."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172lgu1/my_concerns_over_the_art_style_and_more_open/k3xk3px/
" why are they ******* around with graphics instead of finishing the game? "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/172lgu1/my_concerns_over_the_art_style_and_more_open/k3xe6qp/
" They ruined the game with the new graphics. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3lzig1/
" Looks like a F2P WoW knockoff. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3htpsc/
" going for the OG WoW look, eh? "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16zj5kw/10_min_wait_for_a_5_min_live_reveal_sign_of_not/k3hbadv/
" Don’t you want to be proud of your nephew? This new art style wouldn’t make it onto my fridge "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16zj5kw/10_min_wait_for_a_5_min_live_reveal_sign_of_not/k3esznn/
" I think it's pretty fitting to me. The new art looks like something a high school art student could slap on a screen in about 5 minutes.
If they made the video longer that would have meant they spent more time making a stream than they did making the art.
But, that's the whole point of the new art right? One of VR's stated reasons for changing is the new art takes a lot less time and resources to implement.
Looking at it, I truly believe them. It definitely looks cheap and hastily made! "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3eqqsb/
" New style is unbelievably bad. Old style looks so much better. Just looks like every other trash MMO style that has been done over and over. I actually can't even believe this could be real but if this truly is the case, I can no longer support VR. How ******* sad."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3dwxsf/
" After watching a few videos about the new art style and considering it, I don’t think it’s the art style that’s bad so much as the execution. The original concept art and design seemed to be heading in a much different direction, and selling a very different mood and game. Even if the graphics were never great, it certainly provided a more coherent feel. The execution of the new art seems like they tried to simply replace the old with the new, without reimagining everything. A lot of what we saw before doesn’t work together well anymore when the new style has been applied. The result, at least in my opinion, seems to be something that actually looks much worse. It doesn’t actually feel like it has any style at all. It’s like they just took the cheapest cartoony assets possible and flopped them all together to create a big, messy, empty, textureless world and said “style.” I wouldn’t mind a “cartoony” or timeless style, but this doesn’t feel like style at all. The other style may have looked 15 years old, but it at least felt like it worked together and was being styled with a coherent vision and design behind it. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3dj2nc/
" Looks like they are trying to get fortnite kids to play it from the graphics style, a shame really. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3d6nzo/
" So far, the new style appears to be a step backward, quality wise. I am willing to believe that they MAY be able to make the style look good when they develop more expertise, but that remains to be proven, Of more concern to me is that they are making such a drastic change so late in their development. To be honest, the few times I have heard about their internal software development processes, I have been unimpressed with their apparent level of technical maturity.
MMOs are hard. Really, really hard. TBH, I have never felt comfortable that they have the leadership to succeed in the many disciplines it takes to make a successful game. The foundation of Pantheon is that it intends to be an MMORPG unlike any of its predecessors. Taking high level hand waving concepts of new play modalities and developing them into real implementations that actually gain traction with players is really really hard. Do they really have the inspired genius to produce a meaningfully different game playing experience?
I have not been particularly concerned about their long development timeline. They have always said they would do it in their own time. While we would all like the game delivered yesterday, our wants are not a driver. The concern is are they really going to converge on a successful game that delivers on the vision? This kind of sweeping change, at this point in development, does not inspire confidence. Are they simply gutting appearance to get something out? If so, what else are they gutting? While the timeline is not a concern for me, resources are. The money spigot cannot keep flowing cash forever, without a delivered game.
I want and hope VR succeeds with Pantheon but like everyone else, I am concerned."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16une5n/is_this_not_moody_or_deep_enough_for_you_found_on/k3d6mhy/
" It sadly looks like Embers Adrift "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3cpf9b/
" Cartoon graphics are not immersive. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3bx7bh/
" Reminds me of Fable. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3bwz13/
" I already had little faith this game was actually making meaningful progress. Now that I see this I think I'm just out. Kudos to giving them the benefit of the doubt but this is just bad. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3bwfic/
" The new look is honestly atrocious. It's like WoW meets Fortnite. I honestly don't even think I'd buy the game anymore. I don't care if their old look was going to get outclassed by other games by the time it came out, it set a tone that spoke to their approach to their MMO and really made it feel like a spiritual successor to the MMOs that created the genre. Dropping the attempt at realism is a massive mistake, imo. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3buxyr/
" They both weren't/aren't great. The new style looks like a mobile game. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3bhocg/
" New style has too much of a WoW feel for me. Given the lore I've read so far the Pantheon world was coming off as a dark and gritty world. As such you need an art style to match that feel. This new look is coming off as too cartoonish and silly looking. But since I've dropped WAY too much money on the game as it is I'm kinda stuck trying it out when it comes out. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3b4krh/
" I do not find either art style/set to be good. This especially applies to what has been shown of the new one so far.
Setting aside issues with graphics, it is not a good sign when game development becomes a chronic struggle. This often means that content releases with greater risk of glitches, and also that post-release content usually ends up taking extremely long to create."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3ap2wf/
" I hate it. Goes from sort of dark brooding and realistic to wow kiddy blocky style animation. Not my style preference. Makes the game unfortunately a pass for me now. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3ajjwr/
" You’re not wrong. I do play and cartoony, basic, or even childish looking games like the ones I mentioned. I love Zelda’s art style. Diablo 3, Fable, and even WoW all have great appeal. They have uniqueness. Identity.
VR says they went for a pained style. But it doesn’t look like a painted style. Compared to games like Ori, Banner Saga, or Hades, it has little character. Guild Wars 2 pulled off a unique painted style that looked lovely for its time and still holds up fairly well.
But Pantheon feels significantly basic/boring in comparison to any of those examples. It’s just… not impressive at all. Second to that, the VR mission which was communicated to us was an “old school, challenging, high risk high reward, hardcore type” MMO. This visual change does not echo that feel, at all.
Style should support the game behind it, not feel like a total divergence.
However, the art style still COULD portray that feel of game, if enough thought and design are put into it."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3agpcx/
" It is such a safe, family-friendly aesthetic that it's hard to even describe the style, other than to associate it with WoW yeah. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3afiiu/
" There are a myriad of issues. This is yet another one. It's front and center now because it's the most recent glaring issue and little else has been completed this year, so might as well talk about the cartoonish elephant in the room. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3ad6or/
" Yeah. This new style is concerning. The old one was deeply rooted in the lore. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3a5aoh/
" Signature style? It looks like WoW in a way, it looks like a lot of other games that use the same style.
This game will never come out though. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k39rtfo/
" Apparently I have an unpopular opinion- but I think this new look is trash. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k3rl3je/
" I haven't spoken to anyone who likes the new look so I don't think you are alone. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k39hnnz/
" Wow. That genuinely looks terrible. Like... why would they do this? How could they green light this? "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k39ed6q/
" It's starting to look like another wow clone, sigh "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16yin2r/pantheon_does_the_new_art_style_work_for_pantheon/k39wfb3/
" I don't think that the bad part, it will be a CHEAP wow clone, that does less then wow that is bad. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16p0glh/pantheon_rise_of_the_fallen_art_update/k37113q/
" What in the world of Warcraft "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16qf07c/joppa_posted_shot_of_wolf_with_facial_animation/k2wisxr/
" This looks ******* dumb. "

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16p0glh/pantheon_rise_of_the_fallen_art_update/k2wic9d/
" Is it too late to get my 2017 pledge back. They made another schlock wow clone."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16ugtbi/september_producers_letter/k2saepp/
" You should look at other games from 2004 and compare it to WoW. They definitely nailed the “Warcraft” style, but in terms of poly count and overall quality of textures, it was on par with other games that released around the same time.
That said, these new Pantheon models are bad. Real bad. They’re worse than most mobile game models for units that are zoomed out so far you can’t make them out. Given their close resemblance to EQN, I would not be shocked to find out they’re just ported from old assets that someone managed to get their hands on."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16ugtbi/september_producers_letter/k2omwf8/
" Yeah, idk what happens to peoples brains or why my brain thinks WoW and this art style looks nothing alike outside of being cartoony, but thats like saying Ren and Stimpy looks just like Attack on Titan, its lacking so much nuance.
Anyways, yeah it looks almost exactly like Palia. Some of the images are shockingly similar, like maybe exactly the same. Wild stuff."

https://old.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/16ugtbi/september_producers_letter/k2n3g3d/
" Well if they want to "expand their playerbase" it is going to have to be mobile-mmo-like. The type of players you draw in with graphics like this are looking for a super simple, basic, theme park. Like 4 classes and 7 spells and fast travel and flying mounts.
This is not the elden ring crowd, the dark souls crowd, the everquest crowd."