00:45 <@[-wolong-]> why can't just everyone follow and understand maths
00:45 <@Tuxedage> Why else are you in this channel?
00:45 < Kokes> Hinv i bought in at 219, and sold everything, if the price drops it doesnt matter
00:45 < thatslifeson> still missing 70+ BTC on 185
00:46 < smshba> should we buy in now @ 195 [-wolong-]?
00:46 < Kokes> wolong knows what he does :)
00:46 <@[-wolong-]> FUCK
00:46 <@[-wolong-]> PULL OUT
00:46 <@k33k> it doesn't work if most of us chicken out
00:46 < molunbun> sigh people don't cooperate
00:46 <@[-wolong-]> fuck to whose who aint cooperating
00:46 < sh0lla> PULL OUT
00:46 < hinv> Tuxedage we keep going down and the fishes will look at the technicals and avoid as well
00:46 <@[-wolong-]> i can't do shit if no one is cooperating
00:46 < thatslifeson> ^
00:46 <@k33k> we need a way to identify people who aren't cooperating and kick them
00:46 < thatslifeson> i'm out
00:46 < alphaw0lf> what u mean pull out?!
00:46 < alphaw0lf> we cant abort now
00:46 <@[-wolong-]> FUCK TO THOSE WHO ARE SELFISH SERIOUSLY
00:46 < sh0lla> Delete your sells
00:46 < thatslifeson> remove 185
00:46 < alphaw0lf> how we gonna buy back
00:46 < alphaw0lf> omg
00:46 < otherjoe> I pulled out
00:46 < Nekomata3> :|
00:46 < Tyme> I canceled
00:46 < Crat0s> SERIOUSLY>?
00:46 < Crat0s> my shit all sold
00:46 < hinv> [-wolong-] we ain't cooperating because we are bleeding down here
00:46 < JohnathonDoe> /away
00:46 < sh0lla> someone bought
00:46 < Kokes> oh my dayz
00:46 < todamoon_> all my orders jus tsold at 185
00:46 < stormcrow> I sold about 33% before we pulled.
00:46 < dogetrader99> WTF!?!?!??!?!
00:47 < rowtrip> this is the second time i got burned on this... damn
00:47 < JohnathonDoe> I am tired of people not following something so simple
00:47 < maursader> hinv, it's about averages
00:47 < thatslifeson> lol, you only bleed because you don't cooperate, get outta here
00:47 < alphaw0lf> wolong -> thus bot needed
00:47 < JohnQnS> i sold out all also 185
00:47 < otherjoe> it sold mine after I canceled it
00:47 < maursader> When [-wolong-] makes you sell at a loss, you pick up more at the bottom price
00:47 < Nekomata3> i sold too
00:47 < maursader> then you sell at the higher price
00:47 < Nekomata3> lol
00:47 < maursader> so its all legit
00:47 < drastic> that was bad i have loss
00:47 < rowtrip> lost 100000 on 185
00:47 < coj> there's a 31btc buy stack
00:47 < cokea> come guys why is this happening
00:47 < cokea> the idea is to lower the cost
00:47 < Tyme> you have to be faster here guys, it's all about seconds
00:47 <@[-wolong-]> TELL ME HOW ARE YOU BLEEDING
00:47 < Nekomata3> noooo
00:47 <@k33k> everyone who lost there got screwed by everyone who didn't cooperate
00:47 < Kinci1> guys i just sold all mine at 185
00:47 <@[-wolong-]> IF U CUT YOUR COST BY 15 SATOSHIS
00:47 < Kinci1> whats everyone doing
00:47 -!- OrderZero [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #marketmakers
00:47 <@k33k> there were 300+BTC on at 373
00:47 < maursader> If you follow [-wolong-] you'll end up gaining
00:47 <@k33k> and like 29BTC max at 185
00:47 < Nekomata3> yes
00:47 < stormcrow> hinv: We are CONTROLLING THE PRICE. What we just did was "Sell before the price drops"
00:48 < Nekomata3> it would go back even lower
00:48 < alphaw0lf> we are bleeding now if we dont pull it thru and push down to 170ish
00:48 < alphaw0lf> could we please continue
00:48 < Crat0s> we would have been fine if everyone went in ... hinv i bought in higher than taht too
00:48 < Nekomata3> ^
00:48 < alphaw0lf> or what
00:48 -!- mode/#marketmakers [+m] by [-wolong-]
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> DOESN'T MATTER IF U BUY AT 210
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> 300
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> I DON'T CARE
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PRICES
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> WE SELL 185
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> WE MOVE PRICES DOWN FAST
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> WE BUY BACK
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> 170
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> YOU SAVED 16
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> 15
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> UNLESS YOU WANT TO WAIT
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> HOW MANY DAYS?WEEKS? MONTHS BACK TO 210? 300?
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> WE DON'T WAIT FOR MARKET TO MOVE
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> WE MOVE THE MARKET
00:48 <@[-wolong-]> DAMN IT
00:49 -!- mode/#marketmakers [-m] by [-wolong-]
00:49 < OrderZero> Hey all, what's the latest?
00:49 < smshba> [-wolong-], best of worst situation, do we buy back now? or hold for lower?
00:49 < maursader> Movie quote right there.
00:49 < Kinci1> wolong is right!
00:49 <@[-wolong-]> samsh buy back
00:49 < hinv> [-wolong-] because I baught heavy at 210. So what buy back 170, the fishes think the trend is heading back to 100 and wouldn't want to wait.
00:49 < Kinci1> everyone jump on and lets take control
00:49 <@[-wolong-]> BUY BACK COST, im sorry to those who lost
00:49 < smshba> thanks
00:49 < molunbun> selfish people screwed us
00:49 <@[-wolong-]> buy back a few satoshis higher
00:49 < Crat0s> [-wolong-] can we do another push down to about 170?
00:49 < Crat0s> I need to get my doge back
00:49 <@k33k> [-wolong-]: dont' have to be sorry. not your fault
00:49 <@Tuxedage> hinv, if you're not going to participate, please leave. No offence.
00:49 < alphaw0lf> im writing bot .. we wont have this problem soon.. as long as everyone clicks ok...
00:49 <@k33k> blame is on everyone who chickened out
00:49 <@Tuxedage> But we don't need you here.
00:49 < Kinci1> hinv, you sell at 185 buy at 170 so your no cost is like 200's not 201
00:49 < Kinci1> 210
00:49 < Staynov> It didn't work this time. The Best thing to do right now is buy, we alter pump
00:49 <@[-wolong-]> HINV DOESN'T MATTER IF IT GOES TO 0
00:49 < alphaw0lf> i can have bot send list of names for those that actually trade
00:49 <@[-wolong-]> WE SOLD FIRST, WE CUT OUR COST
00:49 <@[-wolong-]> DAMN IT
00:49 < Kinci1> i did
00:50 < Kinci1> 30 btc
00:50 < alphaw0lf> :/
00:50 < Nekomata3> there goes 0.1 btc
00:50 < dogetrader99> fuck
00:50 < JohnQnS> buying back now?
00:50 < OrderZero> Obviously I missed something big :/
00:50 <@[-wolong-]> even if PRICES WERE TO MOVE TO 50 BECAUSE OF OUR SHORT
00:50 < OrderZero> damn time zones
00:50 <@[-wolong-]> WE STILL PROFIT
00:50 < Nekomata3> ye
00:50 <@Tuxedage> hinv, it's very simple math. A trader doesn't care about what price used to be, only what the price is RIGHT NOW.
00:50 < JohnQnS> or better stay btc and wait or how we are doing?
00:50 <@k33k> I want to see screenshots on the next action
00:50 < molunbun> yes
00:50 < JohnathonDoe> OrderZero: nothing more than a lot of idiots ruining things
00:50 < BJUK> ppl re so used to buying before selling that they mess up their maths
00:50 < molunbun> we'll have more doge
00:50 < Kokes> Oh my days, even I understand this this, just listen to wolong, we own the market, we can do everything we want, as long as we TRUST wolong.
00:50 < Kokes> where's the trust
00:50 <@Tuxedage> ^^^
00:50 <@Tuxedage> Please cooperate.
00:50 < OrderZero> JohnathonDoe: I see
00:50 < alphaw0lf> wolong we only profit if we can get prices back up afterwards...
00:50 <@[-wolong-]> What's everyone average loss?
00:50 < alphaw0lf> so lets get them up and retry?
00:50 < Nekomata3> Kokes exac
00:50 < OrderZero> 0 :D
00:51 < molunbun> 2.7%
00:51 * OrderZero has never lost anything on this market....yet
00:51 < smshba> god damn that hurt
00:51 < Kinci1> 3.5%
00:51 < Solnse> if I buy back again now at a loss what is to stop it from happening agian
00:51 < alphaw0lf> or keep goin down to 170 like original plan
00:51 <@Tuxedage> I lost around 4%, I think.
00:51 <@Tuxedage> Need to calculate.
00:51 < alphaw0lf> im good with both :/
00:51 < Kokes> 3-4 %
00:51 <@[-wolong-]> hinv REMEMBER ONE THING DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE BUY AT 210, AND THEN U WAIT TO 280, IF YOU DON'T SELL THERE IS NOT PROFIT
00:51 < otherjoe> I have no idea, I just lost
00:51 < Tyme> 3%, its ok
00:51 < coj> i haven't bought back, oh well. i sit out of the market
00:51 < Zimnx> 1.7%
00:51 <@[-wolong-]> PROFIT IS ONLY CALCULATED ONCE IT ENTERS YOUR POCKET
00:51 < Crat0s> most of thsoe doges I just sold were bought above 220 ... kidna sucked.
00:51 < cokea> it's all virtual yeah
00:51 < stormcrow> heh. I can't even get back in. cryptsy lost my buy order.
00:51 <@Tuxedage> No worries. wolong, you've given me a lot more than 4% gains, so I don't care even if I lost this.
00:51 <@[-wolong-]> damn alphaw0lf
00:51 < drastic> there was a panic call on chat
00:52 <@[-wolong-]> i suggest you finish the trading api fast
00:52 < drastic> thats what happend
00:52 < alphaw0lf> no doubt
00:52 <@[-wolong-]> so that i can control everyone trade
00:52 < alphaw0lf> im working on it...
00:52 <@[-wolong-]> too much selfish people making everyone losing
00:52 < alphaw0lf> we can have it announce nicknames once a trade is made
00:52 < mr_dick> damn got burned 3%
00:52 < WarAileron> i was all in :s
00:52 < Kokes> damn right
00:52 < alphaw0lf> so we know who isnt trading
00:52 < molunbun> stormcrow, place a 100doge order to force a refresh
00:52 < todamoon_> look all you have one guy that has the market in control just follow the fucking request through
00:52 < todamoon_> you came this far to this channel
00:52 < molunbun> stormcrow, sell 100doge
00:52 < todamoon_> so do it fuck faces
00:52 < Zimnx> alphaw0lf i can join development if you have some kind of version control system
00:52 < mr_dick> [-wolong-], that's why i said we need a scheduled event man
00:52 < stormcrow> yeah. On that, mol.
00:52 <@Tuxedage> Exactly
00:52 -!- Solweintraub__ [~Solweintr@cpe-184-57-68-90.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:52 < thatslifeson> IGNORE THE PRICES, they do not matter, what matters is making a profit your trades. If you have cold feet on making a move, and you doubt wolong's ability to coordinate and trade, just do yourself, and everyone in here a favor, and /quit.
00:52 < mr_dick> if everyone comes prepared during a scheduled event
00:52 < mr_dick> noone would hesitate that much
00:52 < Nekomata3> you just had to follow the damn train ;-;
00:53 < sh0lla> I pulled out thankfully but I feel awful for those who didnt in time )))):