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Emerald 3253 Mudkip Manip v1.0 Stuff

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  1. Emerald 3253 Lonely Mudkip Manip Test
  2. General info:
  3. - NPCs deload 8 below, 10 above, 10 right, 11 left
  4.  
  5. Checklist:
  6. - List out 10 frames I can work with
  7.  
  8. ----
  9. OBSOLETE:
  10. Continue manips the pink guy
  11. Textbox manips the fat guy and other hidden NPC
  12. Entering cutscene manips RNG advances during cutscene
  13. To test frames: Press A on first ! then 2 frames after second !
  14. ----
  15.  
  16. START HERE:
  17. Note: The difference between the turnright and the bagexit frame is what truly matters. The end frame result being different doesnt matter as long as the differences are the same for a given cluster.
  18. This principal applies to Help Me! and Poke Ball! textboxes.
  19.  
  20. BizHawk Offsets: 35228/43116/50268/54076
  21. DS Offsets: 35212/43132/50316/54140/60684/63976/74140/101532
  22.  
  23. Steps to calibrate offsets:
  24. Calculating the first offset:
  25. Step 1: For first offset, calculate 2103 * 1000/59.6555 (or divide by 59.7275 if you're playing on GBA/GBI)
  26. Step 2: Try this offset on a basic Mudkip manip with no bag manipulation, saved two tiles away from starter bag (the whole point of this is to calibrate on console because you don't have the luxury of seeing BizHawk's RNG reader on console)
  27. Step 3: Look up frame 2103 on the Gen 3 starter predictor program and Search Around Frame, see which Mudkip you hit (you can also use the IV Predictor tab for this)
  28. Step 4: Add or Subtract the difference of the Mudkip frame you hit with frame 2103 (~16ms per frame, so for example if you hit 2 frames early, you add 32 ms to your offset)
  29. Step 5: Subtract your offset by 112ms (7 frames total) if you're saving after stairs (there are 7 RNG frame advances which we wanna compensate for, 2 for little guy, 5 for outside bag manip)
  30. This calculation is how you know your first offset is about right, the rest we will just trust the math from there
  31.  
  32. To get the second/third/fourth offsets
  33. Step 1: For "Help me!" offset, calculate with this formula: (first offset) + (2591-2103-6) * 1000/59.7275 (<-- 59.6555 for DS; the minus 6 is because there are 6 RNG advances from closing the Littleroot town menu to reaching the Help me! textbox) -- Example: 35164 + (2591-2103-6) * 1000/59.6555 = 43243.72442 --> 43243 is my second offset
  34. Step 2: For "Poke Ball!" offset, calculate with this formula: (second offset) + (3026-2591-7) * 1000/59.7275 (<-- 59.6555 for DS; minus 7 is because there are 7 RNG advances from Help me! to Poke Ball!) -- Example: 43233 + (3026-2591-7) * 1000/59.7275 = 50408.87836 --> 50408 is my third offset
  35. Step 3: For selecting Mudkip offset, calcu
  36.  
  37.  
  38. Bag Manip Exit Offset 35196
  39. Bag Manip Exit other frames
  40. Bagexit turnright Fat Guy
  41. 1840 1989
  42. 1841 1990
  43. 1842 1993
  44. 1843 1992 nothing
  45. >1844 1995 nothing
  46. >1845 1996 right as you turn up
  47. >1846 1997 nothing
  48. >1847 1998 nothing
  49. >1848 1999 nothing
  50. >1849 2000 nothing
  51. 1850 2003 right as you turn up
  52.  
  53. 1891 2040
  54. 1892 2045
  55. 1893 2044
  56. 1894 2045
  57. 1895 2046
  58. 1896 2049
  59. 1897 2048
  60. 1898 2047
  61. 1899 2053
  62. 1900 2053
  63. 1901 2053
  64. 1902 2055
  65. 1903 2056
  66. 1904 2055
  67. 1905 2054
  68. 1906 2057
  69. 1907 2058
  70. 1908 2057
  71. 1909 2061
  72. 1910 2061
  73. 1911 2062
  74. 1912 2065
  75. 1913 2068
  76. 1914 2068
  77. 1915 2067
  78. >1916 2067
  79. >1917 2068
  80. >1918 2069
  81. >1919 2070
  82. 1920 2073
  83. >1921 2072
  84. >1922 2073
  85. >1923 2074
  86. >1924 2075
  87. 1925 2078
  88. 1926 2077
  89. 1927 2076
  90. 1928 2077
  91. 1929 2080
  92. 1930 2083
  93. 1931 2082
  94. 1932 2081
  95. 1933 2084
  96. 1934 2089
  97. 1935 2088
  98. 1936 2088
  99. 1937 2092
  100. 1938 2089
  101. 1939 2090
  102. 1940 2091
  103. 1941 2094
  104. 1942 2094
  105. 1943 2096
  106. 1944 2097
  107. 1945 2096
  108. >1946 2095
  109. >1947 2096 nothing
  110. >1948 2097 nothing
  111. >1949 2098 nothing
  112. 1950 2101 nothing
  113. 1951 2104 nothing
  114. 1952 2105 right
  115. >>1953 2104 up
  116. >>1954 2105 nothing
  117. >>1955 2106 nothing
  118. >>1956 2107 nothing
  119. >>1957 2108 nothing
  120. 1958 2107 nothing
  121. 1959 2108 nothing
  122. 1960 2111 nothing
  123. 1961 2112 nothing
  124. 1962 2113 nothing
  125. 1963 2117 up
  126. 1964 2116
  127. 1965 2114
  128. 1966 2115
  129. 1967 2118
  130. 1968 2119
  131. 1969 2122
  132. 1970 2121
  133. 1971 2120
  134. 1972 2121
  135. 1973 2126
  136. 1974 2125
  137. 1975 2124
  138. 1976 2125
  139. 1977 2128
  140. 1978 2129
  141. 1979 2128
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  160.  
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  162.  
  163.  
  164.  
  165.  
  166.  
  167.  
  168.  
  169. Bag Manip Exit other frames
  170. Bagexit turnright Fat Guy
  171. 1980 2129
  172. 1981 2130
  173. 1982 2135
  174. 1983 2137
  175. 1984 2136
  176. 1985 2134
  177. 1986 2137
  178. 1987 2138
  179. 1988 2139
  180. 1989 2138
  181. 1990 2143
  182. 1991 2144
  183. 1992 2144
  184. 1993 2144
  185. 1994 2145
  186. 1995 2146
  187. 1996 2149
  188.  
  189. You want to mash as quickly as possible for Continue (no need for an offset, but mashing this part should improve with target frame consistency)
  190.  
  191. Bagexit turnright
  192.  
  193.  
  194. Bag Manip Exit TARGET FRAMES
  195. Bag Manip Exit Offset 35196
  196. Bagexit turnright
  197. 2080 2231
  198. 2081 2232
  199. 2082 2235
  200. 2083 2232
  201. 2084 2235
  202. 2085 2236
  203. 2086 2237
  204. 2087 2240
  205. 2088 2239
  206. 2089 2238
  207. 2090 2243
  208. 2091 2242
  209. 2092 2245
  210. 2093 2246
  211. 2094 2245
  212. 2095 2244
  213. 2096 2245
  214. 2097 2250
  215. 2098 2251 up
  216. 2099 2254 left
  217. 2100 2253 left
  218. >2101 2252 nothing
  219. >2102 2253 nothing
  220. >2103 2254 up
  221. >2104 2255 nothing
  222. 2105 2257 right
  223. 2106 2259 nothing
  224. 2107 2258 up
  225. 2108 2259
  226.  
  227. -------------------------------
  228. Bag talk (= turn down from bag)
  229.  
  230. Help me! Offset: 43116
  231. (This Poke Ball! clear is frame perfect)
  232. Help me! Poke Ball! (+/-) Bag talk
  233. 2580 2995 415 3067
  234. 2581 2996 415 3068
  235. >2582 2999 417 3071
  236. >2583 3000 417 3070
  237. >2584 3001 417 3073
  238. >2585 3002 417 3078
  239. >2586 3003 417 3075
  240. 2587 3002 415 3078
  241. 2588 3003 415
  242. >>2589 3002 413
  243. >>2590 3003 413
  244. >>2591 3004 413
  245. >>2592 3005 413
  246. >>2593 3006 413
  247. 2594 3011 417
  248. >>2595 3008 413
  249. 2596 3013 417
  250. 2597 3012 415
  251. 2598 3011 413
  252. 2599 3014 415
  253. 2600 3017 417
  254. 2601 3014 413
  255. 2602 3017 415
  256. 2603
  257. 2604
  258. 2605
  259. 2606
  260.  
  261. vvvvvvvvv Current Help me! window 5f
  262. (This Poke Ball! clear waits a bit to line up Bag talk)
  263. Poke Ball! Offset: 50268
  264. (*with 417 +/- Help me! to Poke Ball! difference)
  265. Poke Ball! Bag talk* (+/-)
  266. 3012 3086 74
  267. 3013 3085 72
  268. 3014 3088 74
  269. 3015 3087 72
  270. 3016 3088 72
  271. 3017 3089 72
  272. >3018 3092 74
  273. >3019 3093 74
  274. >3020 3094 74
  275. >3021 3095 74
  276. 3022 3098 76
  277. 3023 3099 76
  278. 3024 3098 74
  279.  
  280. (*with 413 +/- Help me! to Poke Ball! difference)
  281. Poke Ball! Bag talk* (+/-)
  282. 3012 3086 74
  283. 3013 3085 72
  284. 3014 3088 74
  285. 3015 3087 72
  286. 3016 3088 72
  287. 3017 3089 72
  288. 3018 3092 74
  289. 3019 3093 74
  290. 3020 3092 72
  291. 3021 3093 72
  292. 3022 3096 74
  293. 3023 3097 74
  294. >>3024 3096 72
  295. >>3025 3097 72
  296. >>3026 3098 72
  297. >>3027 3099 72
  298. >>3028 3100 72
  299. 3029 3103 74
  300. 3030 3104 74
  301. 3031 3103 72
  302. 3032 3106 74
  303. >>3033 3105 72
  304. >>3034 3106 72
  305. >>3035 3107 72
  306. >>3036 3108 72
  307. >>3037 3109 72
  308. 3038 3112 74
  309. 3039 3111 72
  310. 3040 x (doesn't exist, RNG advance)
  311. 3041 x (doesn't exist, RNG advance)
  312.  
  313.  
  314.  
  315.  
  316.  
  317. Note: Getting an outcome like 4f early doesn't necessarily mean your Mudkip grab frame was 4f early! It could mean one of your first three offsets are off (check end RNG frame result to get a feel)
  318.  
  319. To-Do: Frame count battle load between emu and console: take emu vod and console vod and compare them side by side
  320. Theory: Console doesnt run during battle loads
  321.  
  322. Zig Tackle Outcomes (BizHawk frames assuming 3250)
  323. (Remember to divide by 2 when calcing offset cuz RNG advances by 2 in battle)
  324. RNG Frame Zig move even
  325. 3869 Growl
  326. 3871 Tackle
  327. 3873
  328. 3875
  329. 3877
  330. 3879
  331. 3881
  332. 3883
  333. 3885
  334. 3887
  335. 3889
  336.  
  337. Rough Encounterless Paths:
  338. Scientist Fat Guy Movement
  339. right left+up ttbS1as
  340.  
  341.  
  342.  
  343.  
  344.  
  345.  
  346.  
  347. ignore this idk what this is
  348. RNG Frame Zig move even
  349. 3866 Growl
  350. 3868 Tackle
  351. 3870 Tackle
  352. 3872 Tackle
  353. 3874 Tackle
  354. 3876 Growl
  355. 3878 Tackle
  356. 3880 Tackle
  357. 3882 Growl
  358. 3884 Growl
  359. 3886 Growl
  360. 3888 Growl
  361. 3890 Growl
  362. 3892 Tackle
  363. 3894 Tackle
  364. 3896 Tackle
  365. 3898 Growl
  366. 3900 Growl
  367. 3902 Growl
  368. 3904 Growl
  369. 3906 Tackle
  370.  
  371.  
  372. Zigzagoon Genders on emulator (bizhawk frame):
  373. Frame Gender HP Nature
  374. 3248 female 20hp bashful
  375. 3249 female 20hp naive
  376. >3250 female 21hp lonely
  377. 3251 female 21hp relaxed
  378. 3252 female 21hp lax
  379. 3253 female 20hp serious
  380.  
  381.  
  382. Help me! Poke Ball! Bag talk
  383. 2620 3035 3107
  384. 2621 3034 3106
  385. 2622 3035 3107
  386. 2623 3034 3106
  387. 2624 3039 3111
  388. 2625 3038 3110
  389. 2626 3041 3111
  390. 2627 3046 3116
  391. 2628 3043 3115
  392. 2629 3042 3112
  393. 2630 3043 3118
  394. 2631 3046 3116
  395. 2632 3051 3123
  396. 2633 3046 3118
  397. 2634 3053 3125
  398. 2635 3050 3122
  399. 2636 3053 3125
  400. 2637 3052 3124
  401. 2638 3055 3127
  402. 2639 3052 3124
  403. 2640 3055 3127
  404. 2641 3060 3132
  405. 2642 3057 3131
  406. 2643 3060 3132
  407. 2644 3057 3131
  408. 2645 3058 3130
  409. 2646 3061 3133
  410. 2647 3060 3132
  411. 2648 3065 3137
  412. 2649 3064 3136
  413. 2650 3065 3137
  414.  
  415.  
  416.  
  417.  
  418.  
  419. ===============================
  420. ===============================
  421. ===============================
  422. original experiment
  423.  
  424. Continue Pink Boy
  425. 586 stuck
  426. 587 right
  427. 588 stuck
  428. 589 stuck
  429. 590 early left
  430. 591 right
  431. 592 stuck
  432. 593 stuck
  433. 594 right
  434. >595 stuck
  435. >596 stuck
  436. >597 stuck
  437. 598 early right
  438. 599 stuck
  439. 600 right+left
  440. 601 early left
  441. 602 stuck
  442. 603 stuck
  443. 604 early right
  444. 605 right
  445. ===
  446. Textbox RNG frame end Fat Guy
  447. 1365 1892
  448. 1366 1893
  449. 1367 1896
  450. 1368 1897
  451. 1369 1896
  452. 1370 1899
  453. 1371 1897
  454. 1372 1898 left after turn
  455. 1373 1899 down
  456. 1374 1900 right after turn
  457. >1375 1904 left after turn
  458. >1376 1904 up before turn
  459. >1377 1904 right before turn
  460. 1378 1905 right+left
  461. 1379 1905 stuck
  462. 1380 1907 right after turn
  463. 1381 1911 left+down
  464. ===
  465. Textbox trigger Release fr. Bag entry
  466. 2280 2695
  467. 2281 2696
  468. 2282 2695
  469. 2283 2698
  470. 2284 2697
  471. 2285 2698
  472. 2286 2707
  473. 2287 2702
  474. 2288 2707
  475. 2289 2702
  476. 2290 2705
  477. 2291 2706
  478. 2292 2707
  479. 2293 2708 2778
  480. 2294 2709 2779
  481. 2295 2708 2778
  482. 2296 2709 2779
  483. 2297 2710 2780
  484. 2298 2715 2783
  485. 2299 2714 2784
  486. 2300 2717 2789
  487. 2301 2716 2788
  488. 2302 2717 2789
  489. 2303 2716 2788
  490. 2304 2719
  491. 2305 2720
  492. 2306 2721
  493. 2307 2722
  494. 2308 2721
  495. 2309 2722
  496. 2310 2725
  497. 2311 2730
  498. 2312 2725
  499. 2313 2730
  500. 2314 2729
  501. 2315 2730
  502. 2316 2731
  503. 2317 2730
  504. 2318 2731
  505. 2319 2734
  506. 2320 2739
  507. 2321 2738
  508. 2322 2739
  509. 2323 2740
  510. 2324 2739
  511. 2325 2740
  512. 2326 2741
  513. 2327 2740
  514. 2328 2743
  515. 2329 2742
  516. 2330 2747
  517. 2331 2748
  518. 2332 2745
  519. 2333 2750
  520. 2334 2751
  521. 2335 2750
  522. 2336
  523. 2337
  524. 2338
  525. 2339
  526.  
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