Bin on Sandbox Shitters

Introduction: Thank you to the community for wanting me to waste my time to prove that the obviously guilty are guilty. First I'll run down some numbers for you and then we'll get into the context of the games. Currently, shounen has 21 wins and 5 losses and kacchan has 18 wins and 19 losses. Shounen has 10 wins with, 1 loss with, 11 wins over, and 3 losses to kacchan. Pre-reset, shounen had 9 wins and 2 losses. 1 loss didn't occur with kacchan, the other was a loss against him. 4 of the wins were with kacchan and 5 of the wins were against kacchan. After the reset, shounen had 12 wins and 3 losses. 2 losses were against kacchan, and 1 loss was with him. Out of the 12 wins, 6 of them were with kacchan, and the other 6 were against him. Now that we've identified the 15 games (12 - 3) after reset and 11 games ( 9 - 2 ) pre-set, we can start reading them. We'll start with the very first game from pre-reset, and go down the list.

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Game 1: https://epicmafia.com/game/6489507/review - shounen is stalker and kacchan is villager. Miller dies and the game goes as expected. Kacchan outs a townread on shounen at 12:09. they lynch nilla, followed by a kicklynch on a blue the next day. kacchan and shounen are cc's on the final day and wrath asks kacchan at 23:18 why he townread shounen. kacchan says "perhaps, meta reasons. i usually tr him. we're homeboys so i tend to tr him more than other townies" Great way to start off this pastebin btw rofl. Kacchan ends up getting lynched cause he's bad.


Game 2: https://epicmafia.com/game/6489547/review - kacchan and shounen are both villagers. 30 seconds into day 1 and the first thing shounen says is "kacchan if youre mafia i swear to god i will hunt you down" keep this in mind for future games cause this is sus as fuck. kacchan says he isn't and the two never fos each other for the rest of the game. both mafia get dunked back to back.


Game 3: https://epicmafia.com/game/6489556/review - kacchan is bulletproof and shounen is a villager. shounen is killed on night 1 and the oracle hammers the stalker on day 1. throughout most of the first day, kacchan said he'd hammer diamond > krusher > anyone else. day 2 rolls around and a minute into it, kacchan is ready to hammer. he explains how he thinks it's diamond or krusher and he unsurprisingly hammers krusher the mafia. town wins. this game isn't TOO suspicious but, role sharing is definitely possible.



Game 4: https://epicmafia.com/game/6489581/review - shounen is stalker and kacchan is miller. shounen stalks kacchan but we'll never know if he would push on his friend because shounens partner decides to cc bulletproof. he gets bussed and lynched. the two don't fos each other the next day and a villager ends up getting lynched. shounen kills kachan and ends up winning the 3 way against some toss account named Dagindel. The game isn't too suspicious, just another case of kacchan failing to scumread his buddy.


Game 5: https://epicmafia.com/game/6489581/review - shounen is nilla and kacchan is villager. kacchan doesn't fos shounen and shounen doesn't fos kacchan. shounen also doesn't open up with that classic line from game 2 where he's like "if youre mafia i swear to god i'll hunt you down." they just ignore each other entirely. a villager gets lynched and they head into mylo. kacchan, for some reason, says he has never seen shounen code as mafia, thus townreading him. that's the only interaction between the two for the rest of the game. kacchan gets lynched and mafia wins.


Game 6: https://epicmafia.com/game/6493319/review - shounen is nilla and kacchan is oracle, in other words, it's town autoloss. kacchan orcs shounen after mafia hits bp night 1 and end up killing him, but kacchan doesn't fos shounen throughout any part of day 1. he doesn't even question him. miller is lynched and kacchan thinks he's good. kacchan orcs shounen again and states on mylo that he foses him. kacchan votes shounen because he can tell that he's playing differently but eventually shounen AtE's him and manages to get him to flip the lynch onto his other fos, which is a villager. At this point, kacchan is clearly able to tell when shounen is playing differently and this doesn't help their case when you look at the winrates for the rest of the round.


Game 7: https://epicmafia.com/game/6493386/review - shounen is oracle and kacchan is bulletproof. not gonna waste time with this game, both mafia get lynched back to back.


Game 8: https://epicmafia.com/game/6493427/review - shounen is villager and kacchan is nilla. shounen calls kacchan "definitely town" 3 minutes into day 1. they lead a lynch on the miller and bebop orcs shounen the blue as he's sacced. shounen townreads pjm the villager and deduces that it's either giga or kacchan (both mafia.) as expected, giga is hammered over his friend kacchan and shounen is killed at night. kacchan gets dumpstered on the final day by pjm and town wins the game. grats shounen.


Game 9: https://epicmafia.com/game/6493485/review - shounen is oracle, kacchan isn't in this game with him. back to back blues are lynched and town loses LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Game 10: https://epicmafia.com/game/6494582/review - shounen is villager and kacchan is bulletproof. the game isn't reviewable for whatever reason but shounen is lynched on day 1. however, kacchan never dies after that and both mafia are lynched. my best guess is that the oracle mislynched shounen and kacchan tryharded and got the last two mafia.


Game 11: https://epicmafia.com/game/6494627/review - shounen is nilla and and kacchan is blue. the game isn't reviewable either but shounen and her partner get dumpstered by the pr's presumably since they're lynched back to back. town wins.

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The following games are from the current round, after the reset.

Game 12: https://epicmafia.com/game/6499949/review - shounen is oracle and kacchan is villager. shounen's one and only townread on day 1 is kacchan despite him not doing shit the entire day. he didn't out any reads. he doesn't even question him. shounen townreads him for the rest of the game and both mafia are lynched back to back.


Game 13: https://epicmafia.com/game/6499989/review - shounen is stalker and kacchan is bulletproof. this is suspicious as fuck. shounen doesn't do a good job at towntelling throughout the day and kacchan eventually asks for selfs. he doesn't indiciate who he's gonna hammer. right before he hammers, shounen says "kacchan is bp" at 14:08 because she stalked him. right after that, kacchan hammers shounen. 2nd mafia is lynched by the other pr and town wins the game. it's like shounen knew he was gonna get hammered despite kacchan not giving any hints as to who he was hammering. there was no reason to tell his partner than kacchan was bp unless he knew he was getting hammered for sure.


Game 14: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500009/review - shounen and kacchan was both villagers. shounen is killed on night 1. kacchan successfully foses the stalker on day 1 and after a villager is lynched, kacchan heads into day 2 with 2/2 reads. at 16:20 he says "its mikado and noavi and its fucking obvious" DESPITE NEVER FOSING MIKADO ON DAY 1. he starts a random tunnel on mikado saying he fearkilled shounen. no way in hell he formulated those reads over night after hard tunneling noavilover and stating that two of the other blues were scummy. noavilover is lynched but mikado goes on to carry mafia to a win.


Game 15: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500056/review - kacchan is oracle and shounen is nilla. shounen night 1's kacchan and kacchan orcs shounen. boring game. they leave the game shortly after and supernova ends up carrying mafia to a win.


Game 16: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500124/review - kacchan is nilla and shounen is villager. stalker gets lynched on day 1 and for the next 2 days, shounen inexplicably townreads kacchan and vice versa. eventually, villagers get lynched left and right until kacchan finally kills shounen and heads into 3 way with 1 clear. he ends up getting the last blue lynched and mafia wins. nothing too suspicious here.


Game 17: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500198/review - kacchan is villager and shounen is bulletproof. shounen lets the orc hammer on day 1, kacchan doesn't towntell but shounen doesn't scumread him, and instead foses reverse (mafia) and brewed (villager) one minute before the hammer. kacchan is lynched and given graveyard visionn. mafia nk's to stalk and shounen demands selfs right when the day starts. he ends up hammering spadez the other mafia who he didn't fos on day 1. shounen is then hit and on the next day leads on reverse the second mafia. shounen goes 2/2 in 3 minutes despite not being able to read for jack shit on day 1. town wins.


Game 18: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500226/review - shounen is nilla and kacchan is villager. shounen kills orc night 1 and is orc'd. stalker ends up carrying, kacchan starts crying because his friend was lynched, and town is so fucking garbage as usual.



Game 19: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500269/review - shounen is stalker and kacchan is villager. on day 1, kacchan makes it clear that he scumreads shounen doesn't try to get him lynched. a villager gets lynched and on day 2, kacchan says again that he scumreads shounen but doesn't put in much effort to get him lynched. another blue is lynched and mafia gets a day 2 win rofl.



Game 20: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500307/review - shounen is villager and kacchan is bulletproof. shounen is killed night 1 and kacchan gives up hammer on day 1 and nilla is hammered. kacchan is hit and says that morgan was definitely mafia. he then says he wants to hammer slickah (the stalker) but town refuses to let him hammer that day. he tells the town to sheep him and ultimately slickah is lynched in 3 way. no idea where the fuck kacchan came up with the read on slickah but roflmfao graveyard vision OP.



Game 21: https://epicmafia.com/game/6500337/review - shounen is miller and kacchan is villager. not sure why i'm even bothering with this game. kacchan and shounen don't question each other or fos each other. both mafia are lynched back to back. game is a joke.


Game 22: https://epicmafia.com/game/6503015/review - shounen is villager and kacchan is nilla. shounen scumreads kacchan after 3 lines. he tells the naked miller that's who he would hammer. kacchans partner is hammered on day 1 and kacchan puts zero effort in. at the end of day 2, shounen says at 17:03 "and i SWEAR kacchan is mafia." kacchan is lynched and town wins. okay buddy lol


Game 23: https://epicmafia.com/game/6503034/review - shounen is bulletproof and kacchan is villager. kacchan fillers as usual and shounen doesn't scumread him. shounen leads a lynch on the stalker and orc is killed, revealing a villager. shounen spends 2 minutes on day 2 without talking and asks for selfs. kacchan does nothing but filler the entire day and game. nilla is hammered and town wins.


Game 24: https://epicmafia.com/game/6503056/review - shounen is stalker and kacchan is villager. kacchan and shounen spend the day not fosing each other, and a villager ends up being lynched. lylo rolls around and kacchan finally says that he doesn't townread shounen, but doesn't push for him to be lynched. another villager is lynched and mafia ends up winning the game. clear lack of effort from kacchan.


Game 25: https://epicmafia.com/game/6503067/review - shounen is oracle and kacchan is nilla. shounen likes to orc kacchan night 1 for whatever reason. probably to remove suspicion. shounen leads on a villager cause he's bad. mafia saccs shounen and shounen ends up orcing another villager. both mafia are lynched back to back cause they're garbage, but this game isn't very suspicious to be fair. town wins.


Game 26: https://epicmafia.com/game/6503087/review - shounen is villager and so is kacchan. kacchan dies on night 1 and shounen mentions how a hostkill was rude. stalkers is lynched day 1 and shounen enters day 2 going 2/2, confident of who mafia is. on day 3 shounen asks metaclear (the nilla) to be lynched and then he'd be offered to be lynched the next day if he was wrong. this shows that shounen knew who mafia was without any doubt. meta is hammered and town wins. shocker.

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Conclusion: After reading all 26 games, there's no doubt in my mind that meta abuse is taking place. Role sharing is really stuck in the middle for me. There were many instances throughout these games where one player would be dead and the other would have these strange reads that don't look properly formulated in any way, which would suggest that the dead player is telling the alive one who the mafia is. If there weren't so many instances, I'd say that there isn't any role sharing going on but there are far too many to just ignore it. Regardless, the meta abuse is clear and as such, so should a disqualification.