Nobody Important - Today at 5:20 PM
'Now we've found a way to make Commander even more cancerous!' -Maro, probably
Elspeth - Today at 5:20 PM
this wasn't a maro set
it's battlebond a supplemental
gavin verhey headed it
Nobody Important - Today at 5:20 PM
No, I'm just remarking on how Maro hates commander.
Elspeth - Today at 5:20 PM
oh does he?
Nobody Important - Today at 5:23 PM
Well, he designed Infect partially to be rude to Commander players, to ‘incite a conversation.’
And he’s said he really doesn’t care for the format.
Elspeth - Today at 5:24 PM
well
infect is a good thing for EDH
if you ask me
keeps lifegain in check
Nobody Important - Today at 5:24 PM
That’s what Commander damage is supposed to do...
Elspeth - Today at 5:24 PM
they both do
and frankly
infect isn't very good and if you can pull it off i applaud you unless you're playing atraxa then fuck yourself but as you know i hate atraxa in general
Nobody Important - Today at 5:25 PM
Personally I think Blightsteel Colossus and whatever that unblockable infect creature are are bullshit.
Elspeth - Today at 5:25 PM
also
Nobody Important - Today at 5:25 PM
Blighted Agent?
Elspeth - Today at 5:25 PM
well
blightsteel is bullshit because of other cards, not because of blightsteel itelf
*itself
Nobody Important - Today at 5:25 PM
It’s a serious wincon in Ezuri and other pump commanders.
Elspeth - Today at 5:25 PM
it's twelve mana after all
and i don't mind blighted agent because of how vulnerable it is
Nobody Important - Today at 5:26 PM
Commander is already a fairly large format, and giving more bullshit options and claiming ‘oh, it’s not this combo piece’s fault!’ Is BS.
Elspeth - Today at 5:27 PM
idk i don't blame the card for how people abuse it
it's not blightsteel's fault that tinker exists yknow
and
well
i can see an argument for the card being bad
but it's certainly not an example of infect as a mechanic being at fault
Nobody Important - Today at 5:27 PM
Phage the Untouchable has a mechanic specifically to avoid those shenanigans.
But nope, Infect is MaRo’s brainchild so it’s not gonna get hindered like that :thinking:
Elspeth - Today at 5:28 PM
i mean
iona doesn't have that restriction either
craterhoof
elesh norn
griselbrand
emrakul
blightsteel isn't even the major "cheat it into play and win" thing in any format outside of artifact-centric decks
Nobody Important - Today at 5:29 PM
None of those win the game in a swing. Apples and oranges.
Elspeth - Today at 5:29 PM
nob
griselbrand wins the game on the spot almost every single time it's played ever
i should know i've killed people on turn two with him plenty of times
Nobody Important - Today at 5:30 PM
Again, you’re comparing apples to oranges.
Elspeth - Today at 5:30 PM
same with craterhoof
and emrakul...
and iona doesn't even need to swing
Nobody Important - Today at 5:30 PM
I’m making a direct comparison, you’re making a semi-similar comparison.
Elspeth - Today at 5:30 PM
she comes down and just shuts down a lot of decks
like
it's the same idea??
Nobody Important - Today at 5:30 PM
It really isn’t.
Elspeth - Today at 5:30 PM
big dumb stupidly powerful stupidly costed thing that you cheat into play to win the game
all of those things win the game on resolution
Nobody Important - Today at 5:30 PM
Why do you think I said phage the untouchable specifically Emma?
Elspeth - Today at 5:30 PM
like
is iona coming down and naming red against a mono-red deck really that different?
Nobody Important - Today at 5:31 PM
Yes
Because it doesn’t literally make them lose the game.
Elspeth - Today at 5:31 PM
neither does blightsteel if you play path to exile...?
Nobody Important - Today at 5:32 PM
If you’re going to keep moving the goalposts, I’m just going to stop having the conversation.