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- [3:18 AM] Decem: oh ya
- [3:18 AM] Decem: we need to discuss
- [3:18 AM] Decem: what tf to do with steel
- [3:19 AM] Floss: aegislash S
- [3:19 AM] Floss: idm ferro S but i feel aegis up and corvi down
- [3:19 AM] Floss: makes sense
- [3:20 AM] Decem: hmm
- [3:20 AM] Decem: have u tried out skarm yet
- [3:20 AM] Decem: on steel
- [3:20 AM] Floss: n
- [3:20 AM] Decem: oh
- [3:20 AM] Floss: info im going off on is
- [3:20 AM] Decem: well i was wondering how it was in comparison to corv
- [3:20 AM] Floss: gengars replays
- [3:20 AM] Decem: what happ there
- [3:20 AM] Decem: i think skarm is more ass compared to skarm tho
- [3:20 AM] Floss: they used skarm thrice
- [3:20 AM] Floss: yep
- [3:20 AM] Decem: cause u cant switch into special mons
- [3:20 AM] Floss: skarm is more ass than skarm
- [3:20 AM] Floss: ;
- [3:20 AM] Decem: like mystical fire mainly
- [3:20 AM] Floss: yeh
- [3:20 AM] Decem: corv
- [3:20 AM] Decem: *
- [3:21 AM] Floss: i rlly like that part
- [3:21 AM] Floss: abt corv
- [3:21 AM] Floss: mystical fire seems aids
- [3:21 AM] Floss: if your switchin is spdef aegis
- [3:21 AM] Decem: hm
- [3:21 AM] Floss: xskarm is much better w/ dealing against physical attacks, gives spikes? phasing, stronger body press
- [3:22 AM] Decem: ye
- [3:22 AM] Decem: but i feel like on thephysical side
- [3:22 AM] Decem: u have bulk up for cor
- [3:22 AM] Decem: v
- [3:22 AM] Floss: you have like
- [3:22 AM] Floss: yea
- [3:22 AM] Decem: and aegi as an imune
- [3:22 AM] Decem: immune
- [3:22 AM] Decem: im tripping at 3 am
- [3:22 AM] Floss: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8monotype-1144008812
- https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8monotype-1145176056
- https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8monotype-1140846394
- [3:22 AM] Floss: all are preban but
- [3:23 AM] Decem: i see
- [3:23 AM] Decem: im tryna think if ferro is better than aegis or not
- [3:23 AM] Floss: hmm
- [3:23 AM] Floss: i think aegis feels
- [3:23 AM] Floss: more indispensable
- [3:23 AM] Decem: its mainly on the ho builds
- [3:23 AM] Floss: y
- [3:24 AM] Decem: i was thinking we could slap aegis to s
- [3:24 AM] Floss: ho doesnt run ferro
- [3:24 AM] Decem: move exca and bish to a
- [3:24 AM] Floss: everything runs aegis
- [3:24 AM] Floss: i think jirachi could also be a shout for A personally
- [3:25 AM] Decem: i feel like jirachi is more matchup specific than the a ranked mons
- [3:25 AM] Floss: hmm
- [3:25 AM] Floss: thats true
- [3:25 AM] Floss: does work in
- [3:26 AM] Decem: well its mainly for d
- [3:26 AM] Decem: ragon and water
- [3:26 AM] Floss: water/dragon/flying/poison(less than exca)
- [3:26 AM] Decem: yeah
- [3:26 AM] Floss: im not convinced you need bisharp to beat
- [3:26 AM] Decem: depends on the set too
- [3:26 AM] Floss: psy either
- [3:26 AM] Decem: u dont n
- [3:26 AM] Decem: o
- [3:27 AM] Decem: bisharp is because defiant vs defoggers is hella good
- [3:27 AM] Floss: and then it's kinda like
- [3:27 AM] Decem: and prioirty
- [3:27 AM] Floss: true
- [3:27 AM] Decem: + strong breaker
- [3:27 AM] Decem: and splashable
- [3:27 AM] Floss: still feels like
- [3:27 AM] Floss: you can afford to forgo it
- [3:27 AM] Decem: u can
- [3:27 AM] Floss: while im moreso fitting in jirachi
- [3:27 AM] Floss: on more nonbisharp teams
- [3:27 AM] Floss: than bisharps on nonrachi
- [3:28 AM] Decem: are u trying to say jirachis better than bish
- [3:28 AM] Decem: or smthn
- [3:28 AM] Floss: not exactly
- [3:28 AM] Decem: it depends on what u want to beat no?
- [3:28 AM] Floss: yea
- [3:28 AM] Floss: like
- [3:28 AM] Floss: mirror bisharp is obviously v good
- [3:29 AM] Floss: ghost MU
- [3:29 AM] Floss: fire MU, although dire, you can pray for a miracle by switching into parting shot or smth
- [3:29 AM] Floss: or setting up on switch
- [3:29 AM] Decem: doesn't bish put in good work in most matchups tho
- [3:31 AM] Floss: yea, i feel like it's more replaceable though, idt bish is worse than jirachi perse, just that jira feels like it helps in important MUs more where you have to have it (water, dragon) while bisharp is moreso wellrounded
- [3:32 AM] Floss: i can see the argument for bisharp, id be fine with A bish and B rachi
- [3:32 AM] Decem: okay
- [3:32 AM] Decem: alternatively i was thinking we could also do
- [3:32 AM] Decem: b ranked exca bish rachi
- [3:32 AM] Floss: is there
- [3:32 AM] Floss: anything in a rank
- [3:32 AM] Decem: if we feel like ferro is noticably better than those 3
- [3:32 AM] Floss: corvi?
- [3:32 AM] Decem: chad ferrothorn
- [3:32 AM] Decem: if we were to go that route
- [3:32 AM] Floss: ah
- [3:32 AM] Decem: i think corvs fine for s
- [3:32 AM] Floss: exca fits on all archetypes cleanly
- [3:33 AM] Floss: think it should be A
- [3:33 AM] Decem: bish does also
- [3:33 AM] Floss: idm a bish yh
- [3:33 AM] Decem: hmm
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