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  1. [3:18 AM] Decem: oh ya
  2. [3:18 AM] Decem: we need to discuss
  3. [3:18 AM] Decem: what tf to do with steel
  4. [3:19 AM] Floss: aegislash S
  5. [3:19 AM] Floss: idm ferro S but i feel aegis up and corvi down
  6. [3:19 AM] Floss: makes sense
  7. [3:20 AM] Decem: hmm
  8. [3:20 AM] Decem: have u tried out skarm yet
  9. [3:20 AM] Decem: on steel
  10. [3:20 AM] Floss: n
  11. [3:20 AM] Decem: oh
  12. [3:20 AM] Floss: info im going off on is
  13. [3:20 AM] Decem: well i was wondering how it was in comparison to corv
  14. [3:20 AM] Floss: gengars replays
  15. [3:20 AM] Decem: what happ there
  16. [3:20 AM] Decem: i think skarm is more ass compared to skarm tho
  17. [3:20 AM] Floss: they used skarm thrice
  18. [3:20 AM] Floss: yep
  19. [3:20 AM] Decem: cause u cant switch into special mons
  20. [3:20 AM] Floss: skarm is more ass than skarm
  21. [3:20 AM] Floss: ;
  22. [3:20 AM] Decem: like mystical fire mainly
  23. [3:20 AM] Floss: yeh
  24. [3:20 AM] Decem: corv
  25. [3:20 AM] Decem: *
  26. [3:21 AM] Floss: i rlly like that part
  27. [3:21 AM] Floss: abt corv
  28. [3:21 AM] Floss: mystical fire seems aids
  29. [3:21 AM] Floss: if your switchin is spdef aegis
  30. [3:21 AM] Decem: hm
  31. [3:21 AM] Floss: xskarm is much better w/ dealing against physical attacks, gives spikes? phasing, stronger body press
  32. [3:22 AM] Decem: ye
  33. [3:22 AM] Decem: but i feel like on thephysical side
  34. [3:22 AM] Decem: u have bulk up for cor
  35. [3:22 AM] Decem: v
  36. [3:22 AM] Floss: you have like
  37. [3:22 AM] Floss: yea
  38. [3:22 AM] Decem: and aegi as an imune
  39. [3:22 AM] Decem: immune
  40. [3:22 AM] Decem: im tripping at 3 am
  41. [3:22 AM] Floss: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8monotype-1144008812
  42. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8monotype-1145176056
  43. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8monotype-1140846394
  44. [3:22 AM] Floss: all are preban but
  45. [3:23 AM] Decem: i see
  46. [3:23 AM] Decem: im tryna think if ferro is better than aegis or not
  47. [3:23 AM] Floss: hmm
  48. [3:23 AM] Floss: i think aegis feels
  49. [3:23 AM] Floss: more indispensable
  50. [3:23 AM] Decem: its mainly on the ho builds
  51. [3:23 AM] Floss: y
  52. [3:24 AM] Decem: i was thinking we could slap aegis to s
  53. [3:24 AM] Floss: ho doesnt run ferro
  54. [3:24 AM] Decem: move exca and bish to a
  55. [3:24 AM] Floss: everything runs aegis
  56. [3:24 AM] Floss: i think jirachi could also be a shout for A personally
  57. [3:25 AM] Decem: i feel like jirachi is more matchup specific than the a ranked mons
  58. [3:25 AM] Floss: hmm
  59. [3:25 AM] Floss: thats true
  60. [3:25 AM] Floss: does work in
  61. [3:26 AM] Decem: well its mainly for d
  62. [3:26 AM] Decem: ragon and water
  63. [3:26 AM] Floss: water/dragon/flying/poison(less than exca)
  64. [3:26 AM] Decem: yeah
  65. [3:26 AM] Floss: im not convinced you need bisharp to beat
  66. [3:26 AM] Decem: depends on the set too
  67. [3:26 AM] Floss: psy either
  68. [3:26 AM] Decem: u dont n
  69. [3:26 AM] Decem: o
  70. [3:27 AM] Decem: bisharp is because defiant vs defoggers is hella good
  71. [3:27 AM] Floss: and then it's kinda like
  72. [3:27 AM] Decem: and prioirty
  73. [3:27 AM] Floss: true
  74. [3:27 AM] Decem: + strong breaker
  75. [3:27 AM] Decem: and splashable
  76. [3:27 AM] Floss: still feels like
  77. [3:27 AM] Floss: you can afford to forgo it
  78. [3:27 AM] Decem: u can
  79. [3:27 AM] Floss: while im moreso fitting in jirachi
  80. [3:27 AM] Floss: on more nonbisharp teams
  81. [3:27 AM] Floss: than bisharps on nonrachi
  82. [3:28 AM] Decem: are u trying to say jirachis better than bish
  83. [3:28 AM] Decem: or smthn
  84. [3:28 AM] Floss: not exactly
  85. [3:28 AM] Decem: it depends on what u want to beat no?
  86. [3:28 AM] Floss: yea
  87. [3:28 AM] Floss: like
  88. [3:28 AM] Floss: mirror bisharp is obviously v good
  89. [3:29 AM] Floss: ghost MU
  90. [3:29 AM] Floss: fire MU, although dire, you can pray for a miracle by switching into parting shot or smth
  91. [3:29 AM] Floss: or setting up on switch
  92. [3:29 AM] Decem: doesn't bish put in good work in most matchups tho
  93. [3:31 AM] Floss: yea, i feel like it's more replaceable though, idt bish is worse than jirachi perse, just that jira feels like it helps in important MUs more where you have to have it (water, dragon) while bisharp is moreso wellrounded
  94. [3:32 AM] Floss: i can see the argument for bisharp, id be fine with A bish and B rachi
  95. [3:32 AM] Decem: okay
  96. [3:32 AM] Decem: alternatively i was thinking we could also do
  97. [3:32 AM] Decem: b ranked exca bish rachi
  98. [3:32 AM] Floss: is there
  99. [3:32 AM] Floss: anything in a rank
  100. [3:32 AM] Decem: if we feel like ferro is noticably better than those 3
  101. [3:32 AM] Floss: corvi?
  102. [3:32 AM] Decem: chad ferrothorn
  103. [3:32 AM] Decem: if we were to go that route
  104. [3:32 AM] Floss: ah
  105. [3:32 AM] Decem: i think corvs fine for s
  106. [3:32 AM] Floss: exca fits on all archetypes cleanly
  107. [3:33 AM] Floss: think it should be A
  108. [3:33 AM] Decem: bish does also
  109. [3:33 AM] Floss: idm a bish yh
  110. [3:33 AM] Decem: hmm
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