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- Optics matters. Fuentes' debate with Chamberlain was broadcast by molyneux. Ann Coulter retweets Battle Beagle, JP Burton, Ebola-american, Bumbling American, Sailer, etc
- http://archive.is/QdIZT
- http://archive.is/oDymM
- And Burton agrees, also liked TheeCurrentYear endorsing optics http://archive.is/7Ee7k
- One side of this debate cares about the ideas, another cares about action. Recent failures have been ideas-guys trying to go to irl action rather than spreading their ideas. The solution is to be two-pronged imo.
- If you want to co-opt the party, start your own thing. I say this as an alternative to bickering about it, not as a "get the fuck out". Stay in touch with the altright, offer it to them and any altrighter who is willing but organize and network it yourselves to get the ball rolling. Once early successes can be replicated you're good. Because you will need to coordinate and share info for it. You do use ideas from the AltRight, let's be real, so maintaining a relationship matters. But you want plausible deniability too, so do your own venture.
- The optics debate was really over before it started. The issue was always enforcement rather than agreement. At Charlottesville the National Socialist Movement wanted to not have swastikas but nobody took the time to deal with it, drunk on premature triumphalism.
- The likes on this over the above tweet it is agreeing with make me fear it's about proving a point of personal importance... http://archive.is/KOKKs
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- I understand courting natsoc guys, numbers do matter. You need grunts to pressure others. Need an audience to MAKE people listen to someone like Jared Taylor. But they act like they own white identity which is the issue: they command too much weight, accept no limits, are paranoid about betrayal and cucking, and take things over for this reason. One guy with a swastika makes you them, which is what they want. Company.
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- I do find it weird how the NPI/TRS wing lost the twitter argument. But then again, it is in the wake of failures and they've been greatly thinned by bans. Enoch has nowhere near the followers he did before he was banned earlier.
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- that TRS thread was interesting, notably the responses. Many see this as an undue attachment to Bannon and something beyond Bannonism is better.
- They suggested Steve Sailer's citizenism. Steve Sailer is basically a white nat but views this as the most explicit way to be implicit
- http://www.unz.com/isteve/white-identitarianism-vs-citizenism/ …
- http://www.vdare.com/articles/sailer-vs-taylor-round-ii-citizenism-vs-white-nationalism …
- http://www.vdare.com/articles/citizenism-vs-white-nationalism-ii-sailer-sums-up …
- Ultimately, their concern (and mine) is that this will be a red herring and you'll all be dwarfed by the inability of Bannon and Co to answer the race question (the answer is that a eurocentric society is better than the alternatives naturally). But at the same time you will depend on them for legitimacy and clout in the interest of remaking MAGA.
- Ultimately, as alluded to in the first link, these political and culture trends you hope to use are enjoyed by whites and Trump win due to whites (using the Sailer strategy even of appealing to disaffected non-voting whites). So white advocacy, not necessarily white nationalism, is non-negotiable still. You know this but it's what you have to inject into MAGA to be successful
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