djkaktus	The best part of waking up is checking 538's continuing election coverage and watching old donald continue to slip into oblivion
13:24	djkaktus	mmmmmmmmmm mmmm mmmm
13:24	djkaktus	that is some tasty stuff.
13:24	tahu|work	djkaktus: scp idea
13:24	tahu|work	1981
13:24	DragonM372	I can't wait to see who wins.
13:24	tahu|work	except instead of reagan
13:25	tahu|work	it's trump
13:25	DragonM372	Hillary or Trump
13:25	minmin	tahu|work: simple enough to just be "thing which makes people unable to remember certain things about itself"
13:25	tahu|work	and it just plays a random selection of quotes from trumps speeches
13:25	djkaktus	tahu|work: realistically you could just use real debate footage
13:25	djkaktus	lmao
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13:25	tahu|work	no anomaly making what they say any more horrifying
13:25	tahu|work	just
13:25	tahu|work	trump
13:25	tahu|work	being trump
13:25	DragonM372	Whatever happens, the next four to possibly eight years is going to be a shitshow. I'm gonna grab some popcorn and a lawnchair.
13:25	djkaktus	I laugh
13:25	DragonM372	:3
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13:26	djkaktus	Nah, Hillary will be a good president. She's just not personable. Definitely not a people person, and it shows in debates and such.
13:26	djkaktus	But
13:26	tahu|work	seriously btw
13:26	AJMansfield	good morning 19!
13:26	tahu|work	what is up with "hillary is practically as bad as trump"
13:26	djkaktus	This is literally the thing she was built to do
13:26	tahu|work	like
13:26	djkaktus	so she'll probably be fine.
13:26	tahu|work	nope
13:26	tahu|work	no hillary is not as bad as trump
13:26	minmin	"built to do" feels quite apt
13:26	tahu|work	like, ahahaha, nope
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13:26	minmin	ROBO-PREZ CLINTON
13:26	DragonM372	Mm. Hillary, as I've said before makes me feel uncomfortable. :( She's very snakelike.
13:26	AJMansfield	the issue people have with hillary is primarily the corruption
13:26	minmin	is hip and cool with the kiddos
13:27	djkaktus	tahu|work: it's just something people say so they don't have to come out and say "I don't have a real reason to not like hillary and maybe I sort of like trump but I don't want people to know"
13:27	tahu|work	AJMansfield: they're a politician
13:27	tahu|work	of course they're kinda corrupt
13:27	tahu|work	like
13:27	djkaktus	AJMansfield: yeah, I hear you
13:27	djkaktus	and she probably is tbh
13:27	tahu|work	literally every politician is kinda corrupt
13:27	AJMansfield	nah, but hillary is more corrupt than most
13:27	djkaktus	AJMansfield: right right, fair
13:27	AJMansfield	plus there's the dynasty
13:27	djkaktus	at the same time
13:27	AJMansfield	don't want to allow that
13:27	djkaktus	I just
13:27	tahu|work	AJMansfield: from what I've heard? Still not much worse than most politicians
13:28	DragonM372	.lc
13:28	jarvis	dragonm372: SCP-2921: Man O' Myself (written 6 hours ago by MikoW) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2921
13:28	jarvis	dragonm372: SCP-2961 (written 8 hours ago by Foster M) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2961
13:28	jarvis	dragonm372: SCP-2751 (written 9 hours ago by caselink69) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2751
13:28	AJMansfield	I just take solace in the fact that even if trump is elected, he won't be reelected
13:28	tahu|work	AJMansfield: there are two reasons as to why
13:28	tahu|work	1) there is no america to re-elect
13:28	djkaktus	If trump gets elected, the republicans are going to impeach him.
13:28	tahu|work	2) supreme leader for life
13:28	AJMansfield	so we only have to put up with him for 4 years
13:28	djkaktus	That's why.
13:28	Silber	tahu|work: people love false equivalencies
13:28	DragonM372	djkaktus: ...See, here's the thing about trump
13:28	djkaktus	They'll impeach him real real quick and then jump on the ole pence train.
13:28	tahu|work	Silber: hm?
13:28	DragonM372	Trump's goal was to unite america
13:29	djkaktus	That's the go-to plan at this point.
13:29	Silber	if you decide that X is as bad as Y then you don't have to go in and actually think about which is better or worse in detail
13:29	DragonM372	And whether we unite to impeach him or unite to support him
13:29	djkaktus	tahu|work: he's- yeah
13:29	AJMansfield	but I'm pretty sure that hillary will last the full 8
13:29	DragonM372	He'll have achieved his goal
13:29	tahu|work	Silber: blegh
13:29	tahu|work	binary thinking
13:29	DragonM372	But right now trump is dividing us
13:29	Silber	you can just say "hillary and trump are both terrible and that's all the brain effort I want to take"
13:29	DragonM372	So
13:29	tahu|work	DragonM372: trump was always dividing america
13:29	Silber	not even binary thinking
13:29	DragonM372	Silber: Oh, that's exactly what I'm doing.
13:29	djkaktus	AJMansfield: there just aren't any suitable republican candidates who can contest her right now
13:30	djkaktus	or rather, there would be
13:30	DragonM372	They both suck and that's it for me. :3
13:30	tahu|work	DragonM372: just not the parts of america you /cared/ about
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13:30	Mikibrock	DoubleThink
13:30	AJMansfield	in my case, there is exactly one issue that I care about, and that is election reform
13:30	djkaktus	if the republican party would get its head out of its ass and figure out a super delegate system so this doesnt ever happen again.
13:30	DragonM372	I care about all parts of america
13:30	Silber	DragonM372: enjoy being a kid while it lasts
13:30	DragonM372	Silber: I mean. I CAN vote
13:30	djkaktus	Silber: lmao right?
13:30	tahu|work	DragonM372: clearly not
13:30	DragonM372	I just don't care
13:30	tahu|work	...
13:30	tahu|work	"I care about all parts of america"
13:30	djkaktus	DragonM372: aren't you like 15?
13:30	tahu|work	"I just don't care"
13:30	tahu|work	wat
13:30	AJMansfield	and even if still unlikely, it is more likely with trump than hillary
13:30	djkaktus	tahu|work: just doesn't care that much
13:31	DragonM372	I don't CARE who becomes president. I care about AMERICA.
13:31	DragonM372	:/
13:31	djkaktus	cares about america like you'd care for a goldfish
13:31	tahu|work	DragonM372: if trump becomes president america'll go right down the shitter
13:31	djkaktus	DragonM372: the two are one in the same bucko
13:31	tahu|work	so there you go
13:31	AJMansfield	I dont' care about the president either
13:31	djkaktus	You can't say "i love america" and then say "meh who cares who leads it"
13:31	DragonM372	tahu|work: Then it's a good thing I'm neutral and not voting
13:31	djkaktus	Because if you say the second thing, the first one isnt true.
13:31	Roxie	fuck
13:31	DragonM372	I don't lilke either candidate
13:31	Silber	"look, I care about this car. I don't care whether someone a drunk child drives it on the interstate"
13:31	DragonM372	like*
13:31	tahu|work	DragonM372: ...
13:31	Roxie	i HATE america and i still have a presidential preference
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13:31	djkaktus	Silber: much better
13:31	Silber	DragonM372: you see the issue with that logic
13:31	djkaktus	that's a much better way to say it.
13:32		tahu|work facepalms
13:32	Silber	if you care about something you should probably care about who is in control of it
13:32	AJMansfield	whatever their policies, I don't care. Election reform is the only issue I care about
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13:32	DragonM372	Well, when we get some better candidates I'll vote. But I do care about the issues we have
13:32	tahu|work	DragonM372: do you know what that kinda thinking got the UK?
13:32	tahu|work	DragonM372: brexit
13:32	djkaktus	AJMansfield: that's a fair platform to stand on.
13:32	Silber	AJMansfield: Clinton did pledge to reverse Citizens United
13:32	DragonM372	Wasn't brexit caused by Britain wanting their rights taken away
13:32	tahu|work	DragonM372: democracy isn't a privelage you get to choose dude
13:32	AJMansfield	Silber, what is Citizens United?
13:32	tahu|work	it's a responsibility
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13:32	djkaktus	DragonM372: wat
13:32	tahu|work	also
13:32	tahu|work	what
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13:33	Silber	AJMansfield: it's kind of a big deal if you care about US election reform
13:33	Roxie	DragonM372: If you refuse to vote, you are throwing away your right to complain about who gets elected.
13:33	djkaktus	AJMansfield: it's the "corporations are people" supreme court decision
13:33	DragonM372	djkaktus: "Taxation without representation" and "troops stationed in our houses
13:33	tahu|work	brexit was caused by one campaign being incompetant, the other campaign being lies, and nobody believing a leave vote would go through
13:33	AJMansfield	oh that one
13:33	djkaktus	and "campaign contributions are a first amendment right" thing
13:33	DragonM372	That's what britain wanted
13:33	Silber	better said as the "money is speech" decision
13:33	tahu|work	DragonM372: ahahahahahahahahahaha
13:33		tahu|work laughs
13:33	djkaktus	DragonM372: lmao dude
13:33		tahu|work dies of laughter
13:33	djkaktus	what is happening
13:33	Roxie	you have /no idea/ about brexit
13:33	tahu|work	DragonM372: you have no idea wtf you're talkin about
13:34	Roxie	brexit tbh is founded on racism imo
13:34	djkaktus	brexit was the decision the UK made to leave the European Union
13:34	DragonM372	Mmk, well when you wanna make me stop feeling like an idiot and explain yourselves, I'm here
13:34	DragonM372	djkaktus: And why
13:34	tahu|work	the leave campaigns were founded on "IMMIGRANTS STEALIN MUH JOBS"
13:34	tahu|work	oh also
13:34	djkaktus	because they didn't like some of the regulations the EU was imposing on them
13:34	djkaktus	like
13:34	Roxie	because we're all racists in our country
13:34	AJMansfield	yah, that doesn't really matter that much to me, the money is gonna flow one way or another
13:34	tahu|work	350 million a week for the nhs
13:34	tahu|work	etc
13:34	djkaktus	"open borders"
13:34	djkaktus	or
13:34	tahu|work	djkaktus: not really
13:34	DragonM372	djkaktus: Like taking troops out of their homes?
13:34	tahu|work	DragonM372: seriously
13:34	tahu|work	no idea wtf you're talking about
13:34	djkaktus	DragonM372: what are you talking about
13:34	djkaktus	that's not a thing that was happening
13:35	Roxie	I don't know what you mean by troops
13:35	Roxie	What the fuck are you talking about
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13:35	AJMansfield	that just makes it cheaper to influence politics
13:35	DragonM372	I HEARD that britain wanted to go pre-revolutionary war or whatever
13:35	DragonM372	They wanted troops re-stationed in their houses
13:35	tahu|work	DragonM372: you heard bullshit
13:35	tahu|work	like
13:35	djkaktus	Wha-
13:35	DragonM372	and wanted taxation without representation
13:35	djkaktus	No
13:35	djkaktus	that's
13:35	tahu|work	DragonM372: where the fuck did you hear this
13:35	DragonM372	And the EU was like "no, that's not fair"
13:35	djkaktus	are you even listening to what you're saying
13:35	Roxie	That sounds like America issues
13:35	DragonM372	I believe it was from Voct.
13:35	tahu|work	DragonM372: /wanting/ taxation without representation?
13:35	tahu|work	are you
13:35	tahu|work	like
13:36	tahu|work	genuinely this stupid
13:36	DragonM372	Take it up with him/
13:36	AJMansfield	I only really care about reforming the actual voting process itself not the campaigning process
13:36	DragonM372	*sigh*
13:36	DragonM372	Ops
13:36	djkaktus	Holy cow my mind cannot handle this.
13:36	tahu|work	:|
13:36	djkaktus	DragonM372: don't call the ops, if you're going to be obtuse in chat and not hold yourself responsible for it
13:36	djkaktus	that's not the ops responsibility
13:36	djkaktus	that's yours mate.
13:36	Roxie	DragonM372: you can't just call ops every tie somebody tries to teach you anything
13:36	AJMansfield	you can slap whatever red tape you want on campaign contributions and it won't make that much of a difference if the voting system is still bad
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13:36	tahu|work	DragonM372: you have, previously, multiple times, made absolutely stupid statements
13:36	DragonM372	I'm not going to be banned for getting angry about being repeatedly called stupid.
13:36	tahu|work	with the knwoledge that they were stupid
13:37	DragonM372	I'm abstaining.
13:37	djkaktus	Speaking as a former chat admin, if you don't want to take responsibility for the things you're saying
13:37	djkaktus	then you're not adult enough to be here.
13:37	Roxie	Then don't get angry
13:37	tahu|work	...
13:37	DragonM372	Mm. Well, when being called stupid is no longer an insult, I'll stop getting upset.
13:37	djkaktus	Anyway.
13:37	tahu|work	DragonM372: you are genuinely one of the most frustrating people I have ever dealt with in my entire life.
13:37	DragonM372	As it stands, if I continue, I will be banned.
13:37	DragonM372	Because that's how this works.
13:37	djkaktus	DragonM372: then stop saying such ridiculous things, holy shit mate.
13:37	djkaktus	I don't know if you're even listening to the words you are typing
13:37	tahu|work	if you don't want people to call you stupid
13:37	djkaktus	but they are ridiculous
13:37	Roxie	DragonM372: Dude it's not an insult if you're actually /being/ stupid i.e by not listening to things people are saying despite what you're saying not making sense
13:38	tahu|work	don't say shit like "brits wanted taxation without representation"
13:38	tahu|work	or "we live in the event horizon of a black hole and time is slowing down"
13:38	AJMansfield	can we just stop this line altogether...
13:38	tahu|work	or whatever
13:38	tahu|work	like
13:38	djkaktus	AJMansfield: you know
13:38	djkaktus	you're right.
13:38	djkaktus	We can.
13:38	djkaktus	Fair dinkum.
13:38	tahu|work	ugh
13:38	DragonM372	tahu|work: Then take that up with Voct. I am repeating what he said, nothing more.
13:38	Roxie	DragonM372: Also, there's no need to be passive aggressive about Site19's legal system.
13:38	tahu|work	DragonM372: /you're still repeating it/
13:38	Roxie	...That's my job >_>
13:38	djkaktus	tahu|work: nah, man. Let it go. He's not going to change.
13:38		tahu|work sighs
13:39	DragonM372	I think I'm done. Third person commentary about me is my limit. I'll be in site17.
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