Airide's whole ass conversation with Shou

iStabOreosToday at 6:55 AM
Alright, now what did you wanna scream about? I'm all ear,s Shou.
RatatoskrToday at 6:56 AM
Your characters fucking suck, a lot on the server don't like you, or your characters.
Stop acting like they don't. A -lot- do.
iStabOreosToday at 6:56 AM
Iunno, pretty sure there's people that actually like me.
RatatoskrToday at 6:56 AM
Your characters aren't fun, they're transparent.
Oh sure no doubt.
But don't act like you're spotless.
Your characters are -not- even good heels.
iStabOreosToday at 6:57 AM
Most characters are transparent on the surface, that's how most characters are there's not suppose to be an open book.
Well, unless they're badly written.
RatatoskrToday at 6:57 AM
Airide your characters are -bad caricatures.
Atlas -should be dead-.
So many agree.
iStabOreosToday at 6:57 AM
Also, I'm not spotless.
RatatoskrToday at 6:57 AM
Then stop acting like you are.
iStabOreosToday at 6:57 AM
Buuut I don't?
When have I?
RatatoskrToday at 6:57 AM
Stop acting like I don't say what I want to people's faces.
I don't need to talk about people behind their back, I have no problem saying how much you suck to your face.
iStabOreosToday at 6:58 AM
I'm not doing that either, I think you think I've been doing that when it's normally obvious  that you do that.
RatatoskrToday at 6:58 AM
I've played - several - characters that have tolerated yours without having to outright hate them.
You just mentioned it Airide.
iStabOreosToday at 6:58 AM
Yes, yes I did.
RatatoskrToday at 6:58 AM
Don't fucking -try- to backpedal.
iStabOreosToday at 6:58 AM
I'm not.
RatatoskrToday at 6:58 AM
You -are-.
Airide, if you're going to just make yourself look even worse, there is literally -nothing- left here.
I don't care if you're bad at conveying stuff through text.
You're literally just contradicting what you said in SL2, not even 10 minutes ago.
iStabOreosToday at 6:59 AM
:thinking:
I'm contradicting myself how, Shou? You're just saying words without any meaning or bases, at least, I think so? Well the base being Here's why I don't like Airide and his characters and Here's why it bleeds into my IC
RatatoskrToday at 7:01 AM
And I've reinforced it.
iStabOreosToday at 7:01 AM
Because if we can get that first part done then we can stop talking in circles and actually have a genuine conversation.
RatatoskrToday at 7:01 AM
I don't like you.
And I'd rather fucking ignore you exist.
iStabOreosToday at 7:02 AM
And that's fine that you don't, I don't care that you don't like me, that's your opinion and honestly I'm glad you have it.
RatatoskrToday at 7:02 AM
Atlas, your Zeran, they're just big reminders. Big. Big reminders.
iStabOreosToday at 7:10 AM
And frankly I think I can sum this all up in one sentence or more, I'm prob bad at sentence structure as it is. To put it plan and simple, get the primordial stick out of your ass and stop acting like a big ass bitch baby, Shou. I don't like you, nor do I like you, I'm indifferent towards you, always have been. I'll address the character(s) stuff real quick as this is just my large ass opinion, but liking a character shouldn't' dictate how you like someone as person, the character is just that a character, and that's just played by someone behind a monitor, and I know damn well you're smart enough to know that, Atlas, you're fine to not like him that's how his character evolved after surviving all that shit he shouldn't have survived, my Zeran, same thing. But the big point I'm trying to make is, you do this to literally everyone Shou, not just me, Fern, probably Spoops off the top of my head, plenty of others, and you're good that the game (which isn't hard, but eh) it's just your personality stinks and that bleeds through the majority of your characters that had the chance to RP with. I'm mostly trying to understand why is that.
RatatoskrToday at 7:10 AM
Airide.
Your ETIQUETTE IS FUCKING AWFUL.
iStabOreosToday at 7:10 AM
How?
RatatoskrToday at 7:10 AM
If you can't even possess proper etiquette, if you can't even treat people on a -game- properly with how you draw in RP, and shit?
-What- kind of person does that make you.
When most of who I know.
-Firmly- agree on this point with you.
How you act is -awful-.
And guess what, that -bleeds into your characters more than I do-.
Yeah, I'm shit.
I'll fully admit that, I've done horrible fucking shit.
I'm not likeable, I'm really damn acerbic.
But you, wow. You just make me look very -polite-.
iStabOreosToday at 7:13 AM
Well, hey, at least you've admitted it. That's more than what other people on this platform as done. However, I refuse to sit here and believe that I've done something as horrible, especially outside the game, that you think I've done to see that my behavior is shitty.
RatatoskrToday at 7:14 AM
Then refuse to sit and see it.
I don't need to convince you.
iStabOreosToday at 7:14 AM
Like, the worse I've remember doing, at least at the top of my head is make fun of Soapy's dead mother on mother's day out of anger, and even I say I took it too far.
And it's not really a refusal, I just want to hear what you apparently see, getting someone else's opinion and view point is important in growing even if I may not like what I see or hear.
So go for it.
RatatoskrToday at 7:17 AM
Airide, the fact Atlas hasn't owned up to what's going on isn't so much a fault with the community not treating death rules nice or anything, but there's the fact that's something -you- have to do and realize, wow hot damn your character's got consequences and at this point them not being dead is really cheap. You bringing in a character to suddenly fight all of a sudden when Nott was antagonizing Atlas? Doesn't matter what your reasons are, the timing is amazingly -effing- coincidental.
Atlas, Tepes, whoever, haven't devved anyone. The only one I don't hear people ever complain about is Nero and that's because he actually keeps quiet.
Did you notice I -never- did anything to antagonize Nero? There's a -reason-.
Your other characters, not so much.
iStabOreosToday at 7:21 AM
Well that's because Nero is a good boy and nothing bad will ever happen to him, well shit I hope not.
RatatoskrToday at 7:21 AM
Of course nothing bad will happen because he has no heat.
Atlas is nothing but Heat, and it's not even good developmental heat.
Mentioning Spo is also redundant
Nearly everyone in-game hates their guts
iStabOreosToday at 7:26 AM
Nott antagonizing Atlas is just how things will go, yeah, I brought Danger there, not because you were antagonizing Atlas, because if that was the case nothing would be stopping me from stopping the IC situation, hoping onto Atlas to join the fight just to gank you while breaking rules to begin with. To be quiet honest there's no big reason for it either, I wanted to test out his current build and how Lead storm performed in PvP given the change and figured you were a good test for it, and well you were, cause in PvE it's pretty powerful on NPCs, it also procs twice due to the Knockback.
However, I'm also not going to deny the heat he has, that's how every long lasting character is, for example, when Atlas first had this run in with death during a Kira event so save Sunny(I think that was the character's name) without any threat of death whatsoever before suddenly we get a death sentence thrown in our face by powerful mage and soldier NPCs hellbent on stabbing the fuck out of Atlas because he just happened to get an urn of someone's ashes that was in the basement of some rich fuck's house. Not sure why it was there, don't ask me.
Actually the more I think about it, most of his injuries if not all of them were from Kira related events.
Doesn't change the fact he should've kneeled over several times if not for luck and the fact there just happened to be someone with him who knew mercana enough to at least stabilize him to where he'd go to the hospital to get a check up. Which happened several times actually. My Tepes, feel free to like him or not, so for the biggest things that's happened with him is stabbing the Leporiade when he didn't want to, and attempting to delimb Daniel/Kazuto, but that one he did want to do it, but he took that too far and was reprimanded by it more than once.  However, unless I'm forgetting some shit, what were some of the things Atlas hasn't owned up to?
RatatoskrToday at 7:38 AM
You know you can always RP him as too far gone to be saved. The action of you dying is always -your- choice in the end.
iStabOreosToday at 7:39 AM
Depends on the injuries, if it wasn't done like right then and there.
RatatoskrToday at 7:46 AM
- Bullying new players constantly
- Maiming newbies on Oni
- Harassing Obenque District

Like the list is long enough that he should be held accountable, and yes making fun of someone's dead mom is too far, but here is the thing. If I’m held accountable by people at large, so should you and your characters. Like If I do shitty things, I expect people to hold me accountable.
-Several attempted murders
-Several actual assaults.
iStabOreosToday at 7:46 AM
Wait, hold on, I don't bully new players?
Also Daniel isn't a newbie.
RatatoskrToday at 7:47 AM
No one gives a shit about Daniel but there’s the fact you often walk SCOTT FREE without consequences Airide
I’m HELD ACCOUNTABLE and I will forever accept the stuff people accuse me of or say, and I don’t brush it off.
iStabOreosToday at 7:49 AM
Hold on, who said Atlas walks away from shit scott free?
Or any of my characters?
RatatoskrToday at 8:00 AM
Nearly every single person on my SL2 friend list.
iStabOreosToday at 8:01 AM
Buuut they do, it's not just jail time they serve.
RatatoskrToday at 8:01 AM
I'm -sure-.
Atlas lost an -arm- sure.
But it's a -prosthetic that's as good as new-.
There is literally no consequence, there is literally no -change- at all to your character or any sense of character.
Airide I -know- I'm not the only one telling you this.
iStabOreosToday at 8:06 AM
He got more than just that for his own karmatic justice aside from losing an arm and getting but on the big warning list.
RatatoskrToday at 8:07 AM
Airide.
It's near general consensus.
No one -believes- you.
When you say that kind of stuff.
It doesn't -show-.
It doesn't -stick-.
iStabOreosToday at 8:08 AM
Well you don't, I'm not going to sugar coat a lot of things, just because things are word of ear or how you seen things on a surface level, Atlas is however just one example.
RatatoskrToday at 8:08 AM
It's not word of ear, because the behavior's just -there- in game Airide.
You can say you want to hear this to grow as a person and be a better guy, or whatever, even if you don't like what you hear, but it doesn't show. This is done and over with. There is nothing more productive to go along with this.