##cars
[2017-05-15 22:18:13] → Joined channel ##cars
[2017-05-15 22:18:14] * Channel mode is +n
[2017-05-15 22:18:14] * Channel timestamp is 1235635417
[2017-05-15 22:18:20] * chocolaterobot_ → chocobot
[2017-05-15 22:18:28] <JFK911> isnt there some dry silicone lube you can put on polys?
[2017-05-15 22:18:29] <Hentai> insomnia, I did
[2017-05-15 22:18:33] <KevinL> I'm not bitching, I'm just worried something more serious could be wrong
[2017-05-15 22:18:37] <Hentai> weathertech race
[2017-05-15 22:18:40] <insomnia> Hentai, worth watching?
[2017-05-15 22:18:43] <Hentai> yes
[2017-05-15 22:18:43] <JFK911> i got a datsun with all poly and it didnt squeak
[2017-05-15 22:18:48] <insomnia> yeah, imsa.  i was watching spa
[2017-05-15 22:18:51] <JFK911> i was amazed at the durability of the bushings too
[2017-05-15 22:18:53] <insomnia> LeMans is coming up!
[2017-05-15 22:18:54] <chocobot> sorry, got disconnected. currently watching the youtube video, insomnia . but should i make sure i get a vid that is for 1995 civic?
[2017-05-15 22:18:59] <Hentai> KevinL, you get tires changed then a noise appears
[2017-05-15 22:19:05] <JFK911> chocobot: get the damn shop manual
[2017-05-15 22:19:05] <insomnia> chocobot, the wheel bearing vido
[2017-05-15 22:19:08] <Hentai> and they aren't the same tires, they are cheaptires
[2017-05-15 22:19:20] <Hentai> connect the dots
[2017-05-15 22:19:29] <chocobot> JFK911: i have the manual (PDF
[2017-05-15 22:19:30] <chocobot> )
[2017-05-15 22:19:33] <JFK911> good!
[2017-05-15 22:19:37] <JFK911> honda book, right
[2017-05-15 22:19:42] <JFK911> not some haynes thing for pot heads
[2017-05-15 22:19:47] <chocobot> yes, i believe it's the official honda book
[2017-05-15 22:19:56] <Hentai> insomnia, GTLM was a wild ride
[2017-05-15 22:19:59] <chocobot> i have chilton at home, honda manual as pdf
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[2017-05-15 22:20:18] <KevinL> I was told that replacing tires could expose existing issues since the old ones may have worn in a way that adapted to the problem
[2017-05-15 22:20:18] <insomnia> christ
[2017-05-15 22:20:27] <JFK911> insomnia: ofc i am going to reach under and wiggle the links before i buy anything
[2017-05-15 22:20:29] <insomnia> you have the honda factory service manual and you're taking it to a shop?
[2017-05-15 22:20:33] <KevinL> but I'm hoping it's just tire noise somehow
[2017-05-15 22:20:34] <insomnia> son.  i am disappoint.
[2017-05-15 22:20:46] <Hentai> its very unlikely
[2017-05-15 22:20:52] <Hentai> its more likely its tire noise
[2017-05-15 22:20:58] <insomnia> JFK911, end links are an obscure thing to wear through
[2017-05-15 22:21:04] <Hentai> move the tires around and notice if the noise changes around
[2017-05-15 22:21:14] <insomnia> unless you're pitching that thing around corners all day long
[2017-05-15 22:21:36] <insomnia> i only ever had one endlink fail on me in service.
[2017-05-15 22:21:38] <chocobot> insomnia: i may have been disconnected when you shared a youtube video on  wheel bearings
[2017-05-15 22:21:39] <insomnia> one.
[2017-05-15 22:21:45] <chocobot> do you mind sharing it again?
[2017-05-15 22:21:50] <JFK911> insomnia: some have little ball or heim joints.  Actually found one in the volvo that made a clunk.
[2017-05-15 22:21:59] <Hentai> I had an endlink fail in service
[2017-05-15 22:22:05] <Hentai> but that was because I broke it before hand
[2017-05-15 22:22:08] <Hentai> oh well
[2017-05-15 22:22:16] <insomnia> chocobot, https://youtu.be/UpsLaSzcAu4?t=35s
[2017-05-15 22:22:19] <flask> [YouTube] What Does a Bad Wheel Bearing Sound Like? by The Auto Rules (duration: 3:17) on Thu Sep 25 16:56:03 EDT 2014, 1246541 views
[2017-05-15 22:22:27] <JFK911> bad wheel bearing sounds like terror
[2017-05-15 22:22:34] <chocobot> the seller responded to my email. the 2010 yaris has  77,000 miles
[2017-05-15 22:22:36] <insomnia> sounds angry
[2017-05-15 22:22:43] <JFK911> spare engine in the backseat loud
[2017-05-15 22:22:49] <insomnia> growl
[2017-05-15 22:22:56] <chocobot> but thanks to all your help, i'll just look into fixing my civic now :)
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[2017-05-15 22:22:59] <insomnia> chocobot, 77k miles?  what's wrong with it?  show me ad?
[2017-05-15 22:23:03] <RustyShackleford> chocobot: chocobot 1600 is too good to be true territory
[2017-05-15 22:23:12] <insomnia> oh yea.  fuck buying a different dog with different fleas
[2017-05-15 22:23:12] <chocobot> https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/6133560592.html
[2017-05-15 22:23:13] <flask> URL title: 2009 toyota yaris
[2017-05-15 22:23:14] <RustyShackleford> hah tabbed your name twice
[2017-05-15 22:23:14] <JFK911> could be anything from a fuse to siezed engine
[2017-05-15 22:23:33] <RustyShackleford> 1600 canadian dollars. even worse :p
[2017-05-15 22:23:40] <insomnia> wont start
[2017-05-15 22:23:43] <insomnia> would love to go see that
[2017-05-15 22:23:45] <insomnia> lol
[2017-05-15 22:23:47] <JFK911> yup
[2017-05-15 22:24:06] <insomnia> chocobot, read the craigslist ad here http://imgur.com/a/1gHp9
[2017-05-15 22:24:06] <flask> URL title: RaceCar Too - Album on Imgur
[2017-05-15 22:24:10] <JFK911> i'm the kind of person to fix it and present the cash after it runs
[2017-05-15 22:24:17] <insomnia> and pic 2
[2017-05-15 22:24:20] <JFK911> if i got rejected i'd break it again
[2017-05-15 22:24:42] <insomnia> guy advertising this car for $1000, needs towed away
[2017-05-15 22:24:54] <insomnia> we *raped* that dude.  got the car for $300
[2017-05-15 22:25:04] <JFK911> haha pick n pull woul dhave paid more!
[2017-05-15 22:25:06] <insomnia> got home, had it running in 24 minutes, 18 seconds
[2017-05-15 22:25:12] <insomnia> bleed the clutch slave
[2017-05-15 22:25:20] <insomnia> 300$
[2017-05-15 22:25:22] <insomnia> lol
[2017-05-15 22:25:32] <RustyShackleford> thats awesome
[2017-05-15 22:25:35] <chocobot> insomnia: you bought http://imgur.com/a/1gHp9?
[2017-05-15 22:25:37] <flask> URL title: RaceCar Too - Album on Imgur
[2017-05-15 22:25:44] <insomnia> they made like 1000 of these 5spd manual
[2017-05-15 22:25:45] <Hentai> picked up a 2002 mazda 626 for 100
[2017-05-15 22:25:48] <insomnia> with supercharger
[2017-05-15 22:25:50] <insomnia> chocobot, yes.
[2017-05-15 22:25:51] <JFK911> is it registered
[2017-05-15 22:25:59] <JFK911> the blower was an after sale option
[2017-05-15 22:26:00] <insomnia> we're turning it into a race car
[2017-05-15 22:26:14] <Hentai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIk5r0dKFlI
[2017-05-15 22:26:15] <flask> [YouTube] IMSA Race Weekend Preview - Circuit of The Americas by IMSA Official (duration: 2:21) on Tue May 02 15:56:16 EDT 2017, 4520 views
[2017-05-15 22:26:17] <JFK911> i heard the blower is from africa
[2017-05-15 22:26:20] <insomnia> We brought it to the shop to start tinkering.  Had it running & driving within 25 minutes of being home.  The clutch slave cylinder had air in the line.
[2017-05-15 22:26:20] <chocobot> pic 2, insomnia, is unremarkable. but the caption for pic 2 is noteworthy: "We brought it to the shop to start tinkering.  Had it running & driving within 25 minutes of being home.  The clutch slave cylinder had air in the line."
[2017-05-15 22:26:31] <insomnia> yea
[2017-05-15 22:26:46] <insomnia> http://imgur.com/4jnTbZB
[2017-05-15 22:26:47] <chocobot> wow, insomnia , i can only dream of having your skills
[2017-05-15 22:26:47] <insomnia> that one too
[2017-05-15 22:27:10] <insomnia> i wish we had filmed how i put it on the trailer
[2017-05-15 22:27:11] <insomnia> lol
[2017-05-15 22:27:20] <insomnia> put it in 1st gear, used the starter to make it go
[2017-05-15 22:27:26] <insomnia> just engage the key and let it lurch to run
[2017-05-15 22:27:33] <RustyShackleford> wow you tore that car apart
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[2017-05-15 22:27:38] <chocobot> i know, right.
[2017-05-15 22:27:38] <insomnia> shift to 2 with no clutch, synchro
[2017-05-15 22:27:50] <insomnia> race car
[2017-05-15 22:27:57] <chocobot> if i had that car, i have no idea how long it would take me to get it working. maybe 1000 years
[2017-05-15 22:28:01] <insomnia> anything that can burn goes to the dump
[2017-05-15 22:28:03] <JFK911> insomnia probably developed these skills by rtfm and trying to do what she read
[2017-05-15 22:28:15] <chocobot> insomnia is a girl?
[2017-05-15 22:28:19] <JFK911> lady
[2017-05-15 22:28:21] <chocobot> lady
[2017-05-15 22:28:25] <chocobot> sorry, m`lady
[2017-05-15 22:28:26] <insomnia> old old broad
[2017-05-15 22:28:28] <Hentai> insomnia, yeah watch it since you like GTLM, its a wild race
[2017-05-15 22:28:29] <insomnia> lol
[2017-05-15 22:28:35] <insomnia> Hentai, tuning into the highlighs
[2017-05-15 22:28:47] <insomnia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0fVaisRHBQ
[2017-05-15 22:28:49] <flask> [YouTube] 2017 Circuit of The Americas 120 by IMSA Official (duration: 2:16:36) on Mon May 15 15:59:48 EDT 2017, 3091 views
[2017-05-15 22:29:21] <Hentai> isn't the 120 the conti tire challenge
[2017-05-15 22:29:25] <Hentai> yeah it is
[2017-05-15 22:29:29] <insomnia> yeah
[2017-05-15 22:29:34] <Hentai> that was good to
[2017-05-15 22:29:35] <insomnia> oh, weathertech was different
[2017-05-15 22:29:42] <insomnia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIGlMJBJSWw
[2017-05-15 22:29:43] <Hentai> yes
[2017-05-15 22:29:43] <flask> [YouTube] JesusThug Life by Jesus' Thug Life (duration: 33s) on Sat Jan 03 19:21:58 EST 2015, 8058 views
[2017-05-15 22:29:52] <insomnia> i had to watch SPA tho.  i love that track
[2017-05-15 22:30:00] <Hentai> love GTD in weathertech
[2017-05-15 22:30:08] <Hentai> so many manufactures
[2017-05-15 22:30:15] <JFK911> chocobot: she seems too smart to have had to go to trade school and have the book read aloud like a bedtime story
[2017-05-15 22:30:37] <insomnia> i just learned shit from my brothers & dad
[2017-05-15 22:30:42] <RustyShackleford> being a nerd helps with car stuff huh?
[2017-05-15 22:30:47] <insomnia> one of my brothers might be online now
[2017-05-15 22:30:57] <insomnia> these days, he hates working on cars
[2017-05-15 22:31:10] <insomnia> i do all the car work now.
[2017-05-15 22:31:12] <JFK911> having all the dudes around with their tool collections laying about no doubt helped
[2017-05-15 22:31:19] <Hentai> I want to see mazda take a win
[2017-05-15 22:31:37] <Hentai> be nice if the DPi cars could run at lemans
[2017-05-15 22:31:38] <insomnia> toolbox http://imgur.com/a/w3yQg
[2017-05-15 22:31:40] <flask> URL title: Toolbox - Album on Imgur
[2017-05-15 22:31:52] <chocobot> insomnia: i listened to the video on my laptop's tiny speakers.  hard to tell.
[2017-05-15 22:31:56] <chocobot> i should get some earphones
[2017-05-15 22:31:58] <Hentai> nah FIA\ACO fucked everyone
[2017-05-15 22:32:06] <Hentai> with their shitty LMP2
[2017-05-15 22:32:08] <Hentai> fuckery
[2017-05-15 22:32:09] <insomnia> is not nearly so neat these days
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[2017-05-15 22:32:26] <insomnia> Hentai, in this, the MX5's are leading porsches so far
[2017-05-15 22:32:29] <chocobot> are you guys contactin g the yaris seller=
[2017-05-15 22:32:35] <insomnia> in front of 4 porsches & a bmw
[2017-05-15 22:32:59] <Hentai> conti?
[2017-05-15 22:33:00] <chocobot> just curious. not that i'm still interested
[2017-05-15 22:33:01] <insomnia> chocobot, no.  but I would figure otu whats wrong and then lowball him if I could fix it on the cheap
[2017-05-15 22:33:03] <Hentai> yeah the ST class
[2017-05-15 22:33:06] <insomnia> Hentai, yeah
[2017-05-15 22:33:13] <Hentai> lots of good racing there
[2017-05-15 22:33:34] <insomnia> that MX5 is a quarter mile in front of the bmw & porsches.  :D
[2017-05-15 22:33:39] <chocobot> insomnia: i'm curious what tools you'd bring with you when you meet the car, to figure out what's wrong .
[2017-05-15 22:34:07] <insomnia> chocobot, https://www.amazon.com/ScanTool-426101-OBDLink-Bluetooth-Professional/dp/B006NZTZLQ
[2017-05-15 22:34:10] <chocobot> i wish there was an insomnia in my town. i'll treat them to a meal or two or three
[2017-05-15 22:34:33] <insomnia> and my laptop
[2017-05-15 22:34:54] <insomnia> also, there is.
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[2017-05-15 22:35:00] <insomnia> i guarantee you there is.
[2017-05-15 22:35:06] <chocobot> but not on #cars
[2017-05-15 22:35:16] <insomnia> maybe, dono where you are
[2017-05-15 22:35:19] <insomnia> chicago?
[2017-05-15 22:35:29] <RustyShackleford> nope thats me
[2017-05-15 22:35:29] <chocobot> metro vancouver, canada :)
[2017-05-15 22:35:32] <insomnia> oh.
[2017-05-15 22:35:36] <insomnia> high af
[2017-05-15 22:35:48] <insomnia> hmm....i know a car guy in Washington
[2017-05-15 22:35:55] <insomnia> Dennis
[2017-05-15 22:36:04] <insomnia> i could maybe get him in here.
[2017-05-15 22:36:19] <chocobot> i'll treat him to as much chicken wings as he wants ~
[2017-05-15 22:36:23] <chocobot> i know the best place
[2017-05-15 22:36:33] <chocobot> but he must promise not to let the secret out. :)
[2017-05-15 22:37:22] <insomnia> he'd be like, "Buy a 12 pack and help me out, we'll get it done together and you'll learn some stuff."
[2017-05-15 22:37:24] <chocobot> insomnia: maybe we shouldn't bother dennis for now
[2017-05-15 22:37:45] <insomnia> all you need is someone to show you
[2017-05-15 22:37:46] <chocobot> coz,as you all kindly advised, i'll just try fixing my civic
[2017-05-15 22:37:54] <insomnia> You can prob do it.
[2017-05-15 22:38:03] <chocobot> hmm.. you don't me
[2017-05-15 22:38:06] <insomnia> and even if you fuck up, it isn't anything that cant be recovered.
[2017-05-15 22:38:11] <insomnia> I know the job.
[2017-05-15 22:38:18] <insomnia> you can youtube it
[2017-05-15 22:38:39] <chocobot> the good thing is that i'm at a place where there's a garage full of tools.
[2017-05-15 22:38:44] <insomnia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAuVDB-G-HQ
[2017-05-15 22:38:45] <flask> [YouTube] How Disc Brakes Works - Part 1 by Auto Tech Labs (duration: 4:48) on Fri Mar 27 22:03:22 EDT 2015, 615627 views
[2017-05-15 22:38:51] <insomnia> watch that.
[2017-05-15 22:38:54] <Hentai> http://imgur.com/a/fi5y0
[2017-05-15 22:38:55] <insomnia> Pascal's law
[2017-05-15 22:38:58] <Hentai> toolchest
[2017-05-15 22:39:10] <chocobot> i have ice cream for dennis too :)
[2017-05-15 22:39:21] <chocobot> and whip cream :)
[2017-05-15 22:39:24] <insomnia> just watch the video.
[2017-05-15 22:39:29] <insomnia> will teach you a lot
[2017-05-15 22:39:35] <chocobot> insomnia: okay,
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[2017-05-15 22:40:11] <insomnia> math & shit
[2017-05-15 22:40:29] <insomnia> Hentai, all dat jbweld
[2017-05-15 22:40:29] <insomnia> :D
[2017-05-15 22:40:43] <Hentai> haha
[2017-05-15 22:40:45] <insomnia> and MX5 lugnuts
[2017-05-15 22:40:46] <insomnia> hehehe
[2017-05-15 22:41:22] <Hentai> yeah those are mx5 nuts
[2017-05-15 22:42:26] <insomnia> got everything you need
[2017-05-15 22:42:34] <Hentai> I have some more now
[2017-05-15 22:42:37] <insomnia> don't see torque wrenches, but mine are just Harbor Freight jobs
[2017-05-15 22:42:49] <Hentai> those are not shown
[2017-05-15 22:42:58] <Hentai> I have mainly beam type
[2017-05-15 22:43:11] <insomnia> six & twelve point sockets
[2017-05-15 22:43:15] <Hentai> yes
[2017-05-15 22:43:17] <insomnia> I had to buy some star-tool sockets the other day
[2017-05-15 22:43:28] <insomnia> first time I've needed 'em.
[2017-05-15 22:43:37] <Hentai> I have several differnt tools types seeing as I worked on VW\audi
[2017-05-15 22:43:43] <Hentai> euro cars
[2017-05-15 22:43:43] <insomnia> the toyota has a couple, the bmw bikes have a lot of them
[2017-05-15 22:43:50] <insomnia> ah
[2017-05-15 22:43:54] <Hentai> e torx as well
[2017-05-15 22:44:04] <insomnia> i have those same craftsman ratchets tho
[2017-05-15 22:44:15] <Hentai> which ones?
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[2017-05-15 22:45:00] <insomnia> um.  let me find the pic number
[2017-05-15 22:45:17] <Hentai> most of my tools compose of craftsman and snap on
[2017-05-15 22:45:27] <Hentai> some matco
[2017-05-15 22:45:38] <insomnia> http://i.imgur.com/lZunVjO.jpg
[2017-05-15 22:45:39] <Hentai> and few here and there other items
[2017-05-15 22:45:52] <insomnia> left side, silve with rounded handles
[2017-05-15 22:45:57] <insomnia> look like craftsman
[2017-05-15 22:46:21] <Hentai> think thats some off brand
[2017-05-15 22:46:30] <insomnia> http://imgur.com/aokdTlD
[2017-05-15 22:46:33] <Hentai> the craftsman is actually on the right
[2017-05-15 22:46:38] <insomnia> the blue ones are my favorite
[2017-05-15 22:46:43] <insomnia> I custom ordered them
[2017-05-15 22:46:53] <insomnia> the green one is a Wera Zyclops
[2017-05-15 22:46:57] <insomnia> handy as fuck
[2017-05-15 22:46:57] <chocobot> thanks, insomnia i watched the vid and have a clearer picture of how disc brakes work
[2017-05-15 22:47:12] <insomnia> but between the 3/8 blue and wera is a rounded craftsman
[2017-05-15 22:47:14] <Hentai> I hate craftsman's cheap ratchets
[2017-05-15 22:47:28] <chocobot> i learned that the wheel bearings are physically close to the brake
[2017-05-15 22:47:30] <insomnia> that blue set i have
[2017-05-15 22:47:34] <Hentai> I have an old craftsman
[2017-05-15 22:47:46] <insomnia> custom ordered in blue (because blue is the fastest color), is the best one I've ever had
[2017-05-15 22:47:57] <Hentai> but I mainly use my 1\4in long handle snap on
[2017-05-15 22:48:10] <insomnia> one upside-down on the far right is shit.  blue is the best
[2017-05-15 22:48:21] <Hentai> unless its a big bolt above 15mm
[2017-05-15 22:48:39] <insomnia> then breaker bar time?
[2017-05-15 22:48:48] <Hentai> I go up to my 3\8 stuff
[2017-05-15 22:49:11] <Hentai> I have a long handle snap on ratchet I use
[2017-05-15 22:49:13] <insomnia> I use 1/2" for all the big stuff
[2017-05-15 22:49:21] <insomnia> or air hammer
[2017-05-15 22:49:27] <Hentai> whatever works
[2017-05-15 22:49:38] <insomnia> because I'm not really strong enough to turn most shit like exhaust manifold bolts
[2017-05-15 22:49:43] <insomnia> so I let the machine do it for me
[2017-05-15 22:49:47] <Hentai> I use a hammer
[2017-05-15 22:49:53] <Hentai> shock it lose
[2017-05-15 22:49:59] <insomnia> yeah.  rubber mallet works too
[2017-05-15 22:50:12] <Hentai> don't have air
[2017-05-15 22:50:15] <Hentai> do have air tools
[2017-05-15 22:50:16] <chocobot> i called some auto-parts store for prices. here's what i got  goo.gl/3fCtX0
[2017-05-15 22:50:24] <Hentai> just not enough air to support them
[2017-05-15 22:51:07] <chocobot> all prices are in Canadian dollars
[2017-05-15 22:51:22] <chocobot> where do you all go to buy parts?
[2017-05-15 22:51:39] <JFK911> europe
[2017-05-15 22:51:42] <chocobot> As I'm right by the US border, I'm okay with shopping from online US stores
[2017-05-15 22:51:56] <insomnia> rockauto
[2017-05-15 22:52:01] <JFK911> do you have a mailbox stateside?
[2017-05-15 22:52:24] <insomnia> those prices seem reasonable
[2017-05-15 22:52:28] <JFK911> i'd look at autohausaz for jap stuff too.
[2017-05-15 22:52:34] <insomnia> just remember, it's cheaper than a single car payment
[2017-05-15 22:52:50] <insomnia> the core charge, do you know what that is?
[2017-05-15 22:52:56] <chocobot> JFK911: yes, i have a mailbox in Washington state
[2017-05-15 22:53:09] <insomnia> it means you get the core fee back when you return your old part
[2017-05-15 22:53:11] <chocobot> insomnia: yes, it's like a deposit
[2017-05-15 22:53:15] <insomnia> because they'll rebuild it and re-sell it
[2017-05-15 22:53:22] <chocobot> it's like a pop can deposit, except a lot more expensive. :)
[2017-05-15 22:53:25] <insomnia> yeah
[2017-05-15 22:53:31] <JFK911> its also a ripoff
[2017-05-15 22:53:34] <insomnia> but it's to make sure that you turn in the old part
[2017-05-15 22:53:40] <chocobot> maybe i can make a business of asking people for their cores. lol
[2017-05-15 22:53:42] <Hentai> insomnia, http://imgur.com/a/uOrvE
[2017-05-15 22:53:44] <JFK911> because you trade your factory made part for some piece of shit rebuilt by children
[2017-05-15 22:53:54] <JFK911> free blasting sand with your alternator or brake caliper! yay!
[2017-05-15 22:53:57] <insomnia> JFK911, only if you make that shitty trade
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[2017-05-15 22:54:08] <HrdwrBoB> genuine is best.
[2017-05-15 22:54:09] <HrdwrBoB> fact.
[2017-05-15 22:54:09] <JFK911> rebuild your own stuff, keep your factory cores
[2017-05-15 22:54:17] <insomnia> JFK911, for example.  I only get Subaru CV axles from Subaru
[2017-05-15 22:54:26] <JFK911> good policy
[2017-05-15 22:54:33] <insomnia> because their reman ones are done properly and have all the dust guards installed
[2017-05-15 22:54:34] <JFK911> maybe subaru even sells rebuild parts for axles
[2017-05-15 22:54:35] <JFK911> toyota does
[2017-05-15 22:54:50] <JFK911> i can buy the spiders and bearings
[2017-05-15 22:54:52] <insomnia> but the ones you get at autozone are made to last no more than 2 years
[2017-05-15 22:55:00] <HrdwrBoB> I need new front driveshafts
[2017-05-15 22:55:10] <HrdwrBoB> there's a 'wah wah wah' noise
[2017-05-15 22:55:10] <insomnia> no dust covers, barely assembled properly
[2017-05-15 22:55:11] <HrdwrBoB> at speed
[2017-05-15 22:55:18] <HrdwrBoB> and a slight shake in the steering wheel
[2017-05-15 22:55:24] <HrdwrBoB> and I have brand new wheel bearings
[2017-05-15 22:55:42] <JFK911> yeah let's leave the dust covers off the ends so water gets in the hub or gearbox
[2017-05-15 22:55:47] <insomnia> center diff carrier bearing in good kit HrdwrBoB?
[2017-05-15 22:55:57] <JFK911> chinee seller say, you spota take dust cover from old part
[2017-05-15 22:56:04] <insomnia> lulz
[2017-05-15 22:56:05] <JFK911> good ruck not bending it! ha ha ha stupid roundeye
[2017-05-15 22:56:09] <insomnia> JFK911, you know it.
[2017-05-15 22:56:10] <chocobot> thanks for rockauto link, insomnia. i'm checking it out now
[2017-05-15 22:56:21] <insomnia> chocobot, they can sometimes send the wrong part.
[2017-05-15 22:56:25] <chocobot> uh oh.
[2017-05-15 22:56:28] <insomnia> you need to verify what you're buying before you buy it
[2017-05-15 22:56:37] <JFK911> i never had a mispick from rockauto but i have had catalog errors
[2017-05-15 22:56:39] <insomnia> but!  their return policy is 100% a-okay
[2017-05-15 22:56:51] <chocobot> so if it's the wrong part, it's because i chose the wrong part, yes?
[2017-05-15 22:56:55] <insomnia> JFK911, they list parts for some cars that don't fit.  have experienced that before.
[2017-05-15 22:57:01] <JFK911> insomnia: thats a catalog problem
[2017-05-15 22:57:08] <insomnia> the Lexus SC400 radiator prime example
[2017-05-15 22:57:10] <insomnia> yeah
[2017-05-15 22:57:14] <chocobot> this doesn't sound good for a newbie like me
[2017-05-15 22:57:23] <insomnia> chocobot, you'll be fine
[2017-05-15 22:57:28] <chocobot> okay.
[2017-05-15 22:57:31] <insomnia> its good for you.  builds character
[2017-05-15 22:57:34] <chocobot> ha ha.
[2017-05-15 22:57:50] <insomnia> aww, porsche passed my mx5bro
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[2017-05-15 22:57:53] <JFK911> go to washington and buy tools at harbor freight.  prices are about half of princess auto
[2017-05-15 22:58:09] <insomnia> c'mon little chihuahua.  be a big dog.
[2017-05-15 22:58:14] <JFK911> when you decide you want some good tools you can buy them piecemeal
[2017-05-15 22:58:15] <chocobot> JFK911: i've heard of harbor freight. how do they compare to rockauto though?
[2017-05-15 22:58:22] <chocobot> JFK911: how do you know of princess auto? :)
[2017-05-15 22:58:23] <JFK911> one sells tools the other sells parts
[2017-05-15 22:58:40] <JFK911> dude im not a typical american who's never left the state he was born in
[2017-05-15 22:58:45] <insomnia> Harbor Freight = 100% Chinesium tools
[2017-05-15 22:58:54] <JFK911> hft sells india and taiwan too
[2017-05-15 22:58:59] <JFK911> taiwan is not so bad
[2017-05-15 22:59:01] <insomnia> RockAuto = almost any part delivered to your door
[2017-05-15 22:59:07] <JFK911> you can actually pay a lot of money for taiwan tools now
[2017-05-15 22:59:15] <chocobot> JFK911: ah, for tools, i have all that i need. i have acess to a garage full of tools. they are for farm mahcinerey :)
[2017-05-15 22:59:19] <insomnia> but for "need it now" parts, I go to Parts Authority
[2017-05-15 22:59:28] <insomnia> they never say "No."
[2017-05-15 22:59:29] <chocobot> i just need car parts.
[2017-05-15 22:59:30] <JFK911> chocobot: your ag equipment is metric? :)
[2017-05-15 22:59:55] <chocobot> JFK911: wrenches, for example, are both metric and imperial sets.
[2017-05-15 23:00:01] <insomnia> Hentai, lemme know if you can get to California in late September?
[2017-05-15 23:00:29] <Hentai> why whats up?
[2017-05-15 23:01:01] <insomnia> our next race at Buttonwillow
[2017-05-15 23:01:05] <insomnia> swiss will be there.
[2017-05-15 23:01:36] <insomnia> If you get yourself there, I'll get you in a seat.
[2017-05-15 23:02:18] <Hentai> I can't afford it, perhaps getting over there, but with the cost of the drive and all
[2017-05-15 23:02:24] <Hentai> I dunno maybe
[2017-05-15 23:02:34] <Hentai> what is the dates
[2017-05-15 23:02:38] <Hentai> for the race
[2017-05-15 23:02:48] <insomnia> Sept 30-Oct 1 for race
[2017-05-15 23:02:57] <insomnia> but you have to be there by late on the 28th
[2017-05-15 23:03:03] <insomnia> 29th is check-in
[2017-05-15 23:03:09] <insomnia> and practice
[2017-05-15 23:03:12] <insomnia> you can't miss practice
[2017-05-15 23:03:30] <insomnia> I *need* 8 drivers.
[2017-05-15 23:03:33] <chocobot> does a honda civic 1995 Lx have brakes on all wheels?
[2017-05-15 23:03:36] <insomnia> we have ~7
[2017-05-15 23:03:37] <chocobot> or just the front?
[2017-05-15 23:03:59] <Hentai> doesn't look like I have work that weekend atleast
[2017-05-15 23:03:59] * insomnia set the topic to Channel Stats: https://rednsx.org/irc/cars | ##Cars race team site: http://waitwhat.racing | Next event Sept 30-Oct 1. | Drivers Wanted: http://waitwhat.racing/arrive-drive | chocobot> does a honda civic 1995 Lx have brakes on all wheels?
[2017-05-15 23:04:20] <insomnia> all vehicles have brakes on all wheels
[2017-05-15 23:05:30] <JFK911> not in ohio
[2017-05-15 23:05:35] <xissburg> tanks don't
[2017-05-15 23:05:37] <xissburg> I guess
[2017-05-15 23:05:47] <JFK911> i bet tanks have driveline brakes
[2017-05-15 23:06:01] <chocobot> based on my report, do you think i just need to replace front brakes?
[2017-05-15 23:06:19] <chocobot> when the mechanic checked my car, he didn't say the rear needed changing (aside from a tire rotation)
[2017-05-15 23:06:23] <insomnia> no way to know without looking
[2017-05-15 23:06:25] <chocobot> he checked it last month
[2017-05-15 23:06:29] <insomnia> but fronts wear before rears
[2017-05-15 23:06:30] <chocobot> insomnia: okay.
[2017-05-15 23:06:39] <insomnia> and it isn't uncommon to change fronts 2x as frequently as rears
[2017-05-15 23:06:50] <chocobot> i was just trying to trace which wheels were emitting the sound. but i guess it's hard when you're driving.
[2017-05-15 23:06:51] <insomnia> particularly in front wheel drive cars
[2017-05-15 23:06:58] <chocobot> insomnia: right.
[2017-05-15 23:06:59] <xissburg> is it common to swap front and rear tires?
[2017-05-15 23:07:06] <insomnia> depends on if the rears have been neglected for a decade
[2017-05-15 23:07:11] <insomnia> xissburg, yes
[2017-05-15 23:07:18] <chocobot> xissburg: well, coz my back wheels are  in better shape than myfront wheel
[2017-05-15 23:07:24] <insomnia> see owners manual for rotation pattern
[2017-05-15 23:07:28] <chocobot> so mechanic thought it would be good to have better wheel in front, i guess
[2017-05-15 23:07:32] <insomnia> chocobot, of course.
[2017-05-15 23:07:43] <insomnia> always want better tires on traction wheels
[2017-05-15 23:07:50] <chocobot> right.
[2017-05-15 23:07:53] <insomnia> since it's front wheel drive, put them on the front
[2017-05-15 23:08:48] <insomnia> some people say 'best tires on steering wheels', not accurate.  always put best on traction.
[2017-05-15 23:08:56] <chocobot> is there ever a point where you'd conclude that it's not worth it to drop more money into a car? I do recall one of you saying something about dogs and fleas.
[2017-05-15 23:09:17] <insomnia> yeah
[2017-05-15 23:09:34] <insomnia> friend had a 1999 Acura Legend with 192K miles.  blew engine from overheating.
[2017-05-15 23:09:41] <Hentai> I just had 2-3k investment in my miata become usless
[2017-05-15 23:09:45] <insomnia> car needed suspension & the entire kit of rework
[2017-05-15 23:09:49] <chocobot> Hentai: sorry to hear that.
[2017-05-15 23:09:51] <insomnia> not worth fixing.
[2017-05-15 23:10:05] <Hentai> now to figure out how much to sink it in next
[2017-05-15 23:10:08] <Hentai> 3k, 5k?
[2017-05-15 23:10:11] <Hentai> more
[2017-05-15 23:10:23] <insomnia> what's wrong with it?
[2017-05-15 23:10:33] <Hentai> turbo manifold is a pos
[2017-05-15 23:10:34] <chocobot> i just didn't want to have my heart drop to realize, after buying these brake parts/wheel bearing stuff, that i need to fix more later.
[2017-05-15 23:10:38] <Hentai> did you see the pictures?
[2017-05-15 23:10:45] <insomnia> so/
[2017-05-15 23:10:59] <insomnia> whats' that cost to buy?  $250?
[2017-05-15 23:11:03] <chocobot> insomnia: who me?
[2017-05-15 23:11:07] <insomnia> Hentai
[2017-05-15 23:11:13] <chocobot> ah. i see.
[2017-05-15 23:11:22] <insomnia> chocobot, cars have wear items.  brakes are wear items.
[2017-05-15 23:11:29] <Hentai> cost me over 2000 to have the manifold and downpipe made
[2017-05-15 23:11:34] <insomnia> tires are wear items.
[2017-05-15 23:11:41] <insomnia> why go custom tho?
[2017-05-15 23:12:06] <chocobot> right. tires, brakes, engine fluid (which i proudly replace on my own :)  )
[2017-05-15 23:12:26] <insomnia> oil, coolant, gear oil.
[2017-05-15 23:12:29] <Hentai> because there was no manifold for this turbo
[2017-05-15 23:12:37] <chocobot> and the easiest thing to take care of: gasoline. :) :)
[2017-05-15 23:12:39] <insomnia> oh
[2017-05-15 23:12:44] <Hentai> doesn't matter now
[2017-05-15 23:13:20] <insomnia> chocobot, every 30 days.  Oil, tire pressure, fluid checks, open the hood and inspect every filter, cable, hose, and belt.
[2017-05-15 23:13:24] <Hentai> http://imgur.com/a/epx4T
[2017-05-15 23:13:33] <insomnia> make it your Saturday morning zen.
[2017-05-15 23:13:40] <insomnia> cup of coffee, car checkup, and wash it.
[2017-05-15 23:13:49] <chocobot> yikes, based on your calendar, i'm so bad! i only change the engine oil when it's low.
[2017-05-15 23:13:55] <JFK911> i taught my wife to check at every refueling
[2017-05-15 23:13:57] <insomnia> no different than having to take care of a horse.
[2017-05-15 23:14:03] <insomnia> imagine having a horse & buggy
[2017-05-15 23:14:06] <chocobot> for tire pressuer, i just look at it. is that okay?
[2017-05-15 23:14:16] <insomnia> i have old cars.  lol
[2017-05-15 23:14:23] <insomnia> tpms?  only on the bike
[2017-05-15 23:14:43] <insomnia> i bet your brake fluid is coffee colored
[2017-05-15 23:14:47] <JFK911> harbor freight gave me a bunch of zinc batteries
[2017-05-15 23:14:52] <JFK911> how long will they last in my headlamp
[2017-05-15 23:14:56] <insomnia> should look like honey colored water
[2017-05-15 23:15:04] <chocobot> on, i don't have tpms, i meant looking at the tires themselves.
[2017-05-15 23:15:19] <insomnia> your eyes are certified tire pressure gauges?
[2017-05-15 23:15:21] <insomnia> holy shit
[2017-05-15 23:15:23] <Hentai> pics of the manifold issues
[2017-05-15 23:15:24] <Hentai> http://imgur.com/a/epx4T
[2017-05-15 23:15:27] <chocobot> yes, when i put in new engine fluid, it looks nice. when it's time to be replaced, looks black.
[2017-05-15 23:15:36] <insomnia> engine fluid
[2017-05-15 23:15:42] <insomnia> yer killin' me smalls
[2017-05-15 23:15:47] <chocobot> who's smalls?
[2017-05-15 23:15:55] <insomnia> you
[2017-05-15 23:16:07] <JFK911> chocobot: is that what the manual says to do
[2017-05-15 23:16:22] <insomnia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs73-eVBu6I
[2017-05-15 23:16:24] <flask> [YouTube] You're Killin Me Smalls - Sandlot Chewing Tobacco by Jason Brown (duration: 5s) on Fri Aug 23 02:52:46 EDT 2013, 683383 views
[2017-05-15 23:16:56] <JFK911> insomnia: 'wheel of fish' is coming to mind...
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[2017-05-15 23:17:12] <insomnia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlddDZkkxCc
[2017-05-15 23:17:14] <flask> [YouTube] The Sandlot - Smore scene by ztviperlx2005 (duration: 1:04) on Mon May 23 16:07:38 EDT 2011, 603265 views
[2017-05-15 23:17:17] <insomnia> Yer killin' me, Smalls.
[2017-05-15 23:17:37] <chocobot> JFK911: the manual tells me to do more stuff, more frequently
[2017-05-15 23:17:51] <insomnia> 2 things everybody has, nobody reads
[2017-05-15 23:17:52] <chocobot> (yes, i nkow that was a rhetorical q)
[2017-05-15 23:17:57] <insomnia> a bible, and the owners manual
[2017-05-15 23:18:02] <chocobot> i read the bible
[2017-05-15 23:18:06] <chocobot> and my owners manual
[2017-05-15 23:18:19] <JFK911> one of those is useful
[2017-05-15 23:18:21] <insomnia> fairy tales will get you nowhere
[2017-05-15 23:18:27] <JFK911> well
[2017-05-15 23:18:30] <chocobot> i beg to differ
[2017-05-15 23:18:31] <JFK911> Ezekiel 23 is fun
[2017-05-15 23:18:42] <insomnia> the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides
[2017-05-15 23:18:44] <JFK911> donkey dicks and horse sperm
[2017-05-15 23:18:52] <insomnia> by the inequities of the selfish, and the tyranny of evil men
[2017-05-15 23:19:00] <insomnia> blessed is he, who in the spirit of charity and good will
[2017-05-15 23:19:08] <insomnia> shepherds the weak, through the valley of darkness
[2017-05-15 23:19:14] <insomnia> see, that's why this channel exists.
[2017-05-15 23:19:22] <insomnia> we are, our brother's keepers
[2017-05-15 23:19:37] <Aoyagi_mehtop> Good morning. What on Earth have I arrived to?
[2017-05-15 23:19:47] <insomnia> nothing.
[2017-05-15 23:19:49] <insomnia> high af
[2017-05-15 23:21:43] <chocobot> if the mechanic said the brake fluid is leaking from front-right caliper, does this mean i don't necessarily have to replace front-left caliper?
[2017-05-15 23:22:34] <insomnia> it means you may have to replace not only the caliper, but the line
[2017-05-15 23:22:49] <chocobot> insomnia: uh oh.
[2017-05-15 23:22:49] <insomnia> don't put braded line on a commuter car
[2017-05-15 23:22:52] <insomnia> braided
[2017-05-15 23:23:03] <chocobot> i don't think he mentioned "the line"
[2017-05-15 23:23:13] <chocobot> that sounds difficult and pricey to fix/replace
[2017-05-15 23:23:26] <insomnia> the piston is probably leaking.  dono
[2017-05-15 23:23:31] <insomnia> take the wheel off and look
[2017-05-15 23:23:48] <chocobot> i feel overwhelmed already
[2017-05-15 23:24:09] <chocobot> but my poverty shall constrain me to pursue the DIY path
[2017-05-15 23:24:41] <insomnia> it builds self confidence
[2017-05-15 23:25:00] <insomnia> success is achievable.
[2017-05-15 23:25:37] <chocobot> thank you insomnia for your encouragement.
[2017-05-15 23:25:45] <insomnia> a common mechanical problem with a simple fix.  easy pie.
[2017-05-15 23:26:15] <chocobot> "the line" is still a common mech prob with a simple fix?
[2017-05-15 23:26:28] <insomnia> sure.  the rubber part.
[2017-05-15 23:26:38] <insomnia> you have to disconnect it from the caliper anyway to replace it.
[2017-05-15 23:26:44] <insomnia> the most difficult part is bleeding it out
[2017-05-15 23:26:55] <insomnia> getting all the air out of the line before driving
[2017-05-15 23:27:00] <chocobot> is it possible to figure out, before buying anything, all the parts that need to be fixed/replaced?
[2017-05-15 23:27:09] <insomnia> if there's air in the line, your pedal can go to the floor and you won't stop
[2017-05-15 23:27:10] <chocobot> i just didn't want to do the work by installments
[2017-05-15 23:27:14] <insomnia> sure.
[2017-05-15 23:27:19] <chocobot> that's scary, insomnia !
[2017-05-15 23:27:22] <insomnia> rotors can be turned
[2017-05-15 23:27:28] <insomnia> or milled down
[2017-05-15 23:27:29] <chocobot> i'm dealing with my life on this DIY job
[2017-05-15 23:27:32] <insomnia> sure its scary.
[2017-05-15 23:27:45] <insomnia> but if you die in a car crash, it only happens once.
[2017-05-15 23:27:50] <insomnia> so there's that.
[2017-05-15 23:27:52] <chocobot> sniff sniff
[2017-05-15 23:28:14] <chocobot> is there a way to be certain that there's 0% air in the line?
[2017-05-15 23:28:18] <insomnia> yeah
[2017-05-15 23:28:25] <insomnia> bleed it out till no more bubbles come out
[2017-05-15 23:28:42] <insomnia> you open the zirk on the caliper and someone presses the pedal
[2017-05-15 23:28:48] <chocobot> insomnia, you've made me famous. I see my question in the topic
[2017-05-15 23:28:49] <chocobot> lol
[2017-05-15 23:28:53] <insomnia> when fluid squirts out.  you tighten the zirk
[2017-05-15 23:29:03] <insomnia> they let the pedal off
[2017-05-15 23:29:12] <insomnia> you open the zirk, they press the pedal
[2017-05-15 23:29:27] <insomnia> if only fluid comes out with no pfft pfft pfft air bubbles, you close it off
[2017-05-15 23:29:32] <insomnia> then add fluid if you need
[2017-05-15 23:29:34] <insomnia> and its done
[2017-05-15 23:29:58] <chocobot> my chilton/haynes it's a 2-man job. can it be done safely with just me?
[2017-05-15 23:30:09] <insomnia> https://www.blipshift.com/products/the-brake-bleed-shuffle
[2017-05-15 23:30:10] <insomnia> yeah
[2017-05-15 23:30:10] <flask> URL title: Bleeding brakes on a race car themed blipshift tee | blipshift
[2017-05-15 23:30:11] <chocobot> oh, never mind. you said "they"
[2017-05-15 23:30:13] <insomnia> just takes longer
[2017-05-15 23:30:21] <insomnia> you can just open the zirk
[2017-05-15 23:30:33] <insomnia> and wait for the air to come out and wait for fluid to drip out
[2017-05-15 23:30:37] <insomnia> but it takes a while
[2017-05-15 23:30:46] <insomnia> and, never let that shit get on your clothes or paint or anything you care about
[2017-05-15 23:31:00] <insomnia> because its caustic and will eat the paint right off your car
[2017-05-15 23:31:26] <chocobot> oh, yes, i carry a brake fluid container in my car's cabin and it has the skull-and-crossbones sign on it
[2017-05-15 23:31:36] <chocobot> (i carry it there because of the leak)
[2017-05-15 23:31:41] <insomnia> will cause your clothes to disintegrate where the drops of it hit
[2017-05-15 23:31:53] <insomnia> it'll go through the washer and come out with a hole in it
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[2017-05-15 23:33:10] <insomnia> white crusty shit on your car battery will do the same thing.
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[2017-05-15 23:36:59] <chocobot> how can i figure out if there's a line problem to begin with?
[2017-05-15 23:38:21] <chocobot> okay, maybe we should still call Dennis :)
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[2017-05-15 23:38:43] <chocobot> especially since we're dealing with very important stuff (i.e. brakes
[2017-05-15 23:39:12] <chocobot> can i entice him with wings and beer and ice cream and milk  and granola and chocolate?
[2017-05-15 23:39:25] <chocobot> is he in NW WA?
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[2017-05-16 00:04:00] <JFK911> haha mightycarmods blew up the lancer
[2017-05-16 00:04:10] <JFK911> think he said it was running 8 pounds
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[2017-05-16 02:24:41] <Sabotender> insomnia: I installed my remote cabin battery disconnect switch, and it is a beautiful sight to behold. Never needing to open my bonnet to physically disconnect the battery cables is such a great feeling
[2017-05-16 02:25:27] <JFK911> the pinnacle of achievement
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