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7 Lesta Nediam LNC2016-06-18 1320 +Mitch Conner

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  1. Lesta Nediam LNC2016-06-18 1320 +Mitch Conner
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6GtkM8m1wE&google_comment_id=z12dhr5o1y2xilbbb04cdz5wjknqu1iwjck
  3. https://pastebin.com/sWfyfGaL
  4. Orlando Shooting
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  8. +Mitch Conner __ If I tell you a lie that is rooted in what you accept is possible and you can also imagine to be true - how would you go about proving it was a lie?
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  12. So long as the lie told isn't "too outrageous" how can it be shown to be a lie?
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  16. To be proven a lie something "impossible" would need to be said or claimed. If everything said and claimed was "rooted in reality" - then I don't think it can be proven false (at least not from where we sit in the audience).
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  20. But put that aside.
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  24. We agree on the first point. So let's take a squiz at the second. The second point is this: *that the idea of "crisis actors" being used in "genuine shootings" is just a bit of nonsense told by people selling "event realism"*.
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  28. (E.g., people like "Jeff C" and pals.)
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  32. For example - if "Sandy Hook" were a genuine shooting then none of the people we saw were acting. They were all genuine people.
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  36. Would you accept that? Maybe you disagree?!
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  40. Would you say that "Sandy Hook" was a genuine shooting but so-called "crisis actors" were used? Or - in your view was everyone genuine? (I'm not going to ask you to "prove" anything - I just want to know your position.)
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  44. As for me - I suggest that inserting "actors" into a "genuine event" is simply not done - that it is impractical and if not outright impossible then it can only backfire.
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  48. I think +Terran Downvale agrees on that point and I think he can describe why this is the case better than I can.
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  53. For example - take this "Orlando Shooting". We're told 49 people were slaughtered plus about another 50. If we accept it as a genuine event then would it really be possible to insert "actors" to "dramatise" it or "control the narrative"?
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  58. Wouldn't something on such a massive scale be infeasible/impossible to then so quickly "insert" actors into the event?
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  63. Wouldn't it be the case that - especially at a nightclub where many of the people would know and recognise each other - the genuine victims would soon figure out that there are now "extra people" who weren't really there who are claiming they were [and claiming to be victims!] doing all the television interviews?
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  68. So - I am asking - what are your thoughts on "crisis actors" being inserted into *genuine* events? I don't buy into it.
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  73. Obviously - if an event is outright fabricated then everyone involved is a kind of "actor". But if an event is genuine - then it would be a mixture of "real people" and "actors".
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  78. So the second point is: either an event is genuine or it is not. If it is genuine then there are no "crisis actors" who get parachuted into the event.
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  83. Maybe you disagree!
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  88. So let's talk about that first - and if Terran wants to point anything out - please do so.
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  95. (If the above was a bit repetitive and confusing that's because I am again sleep deprived haha. If you need me to clarify something just ask.)
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  99. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's posts, comments, videos and discussions:
  100. https://pastebin.com/Bfr5RMSg
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  102. Here is Lesta Nediam's Google Plus posts (i.e., blog) - this is where Lesta is most active:
  103. https://plus.google.com/+LestaNediamHQ
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  105. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's video uploads:
  106. https://pastebin.com/WV42jUb1
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  108. Here is Lesta Nediam's YouTube channel - for videos about the lie system:
  109. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DalBOEZ6RqSyHk8_mGV7w
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