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Vee vs althype

Sep 13th, 2017
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  1. http://archive.is/wgY75
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  3. http://archive.is/aD3uM
  4. http://archive.is/0VBQ5
  5. http://archive.is/jefEh
  6. http://archive.is/8uUsZ
  7. http://archive.is/tLz5K
  8. http://archive.is/EuVg2
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  10. 1. Plays authority games (no scientist agrees with you, you aren't scientific), then backs away from debate with authority (jf), Skeptics generally dont use authority too well either. Credentialed people tend to be feminists after all.
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  12. 2. Repeats Kraut's argument that you cant use r/K analysis within species
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  14. 3. doesn't actually say what r/K inspired findings in humans are wrong, instead criticizing rushton's work, and the name or applicatiom of the theory, whuch you know... none of this really depends on if we want to argue reproductive differences, which are tangentially related to race differences in that they seem to go along with that pattern. Rushton's work was establishing said tangent. Debates ahout application and name really arent important, this is. Rushton's work is slightly more important, but againthe findings stand regardless of how one feels about Rushton or r/K in general.
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  16. And doesnt seem to follow what people are saying, jumps around a lot and projects his owning meaning onto things. Most of which was based on arguing in his comments. He thinks comments are important, he used them to say we weren't arguing against Kraut. Maybe this is why he dislikes streams and prefers video responses. He spends a lot of time in the comments, so he wants his own Petri dish of people he know won't be as robust and that he can selectively look at as well
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  18. And still suggesting all r/K knowledge comes from Rushton too. It's a strawman Vee because racial reproductive differences are found outside of him, which is all this is about. See TAH's first video response to kraut
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  20. http://archive.is/LxoND
  21. http://archive.is/aRZ8D
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  23. He also has some whine about psychology or whatever. Even though it is applied biology and looking at biological concepts anyway, rather than nebulous mental stuff that really can't be observed
  24. http://archive.is/deE2X
  25. http://archive.is/juC67
  26. "look, the academy supports blank slatist theories it is biased toward. Therefore genetic theories are suspect." Maybe if Eugenicists ran the academy, but even then you'd still have to argue this case. Otherwise you're just denying categories of evidence when it is convenient.
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  28. This is important, because Psychology as Applied Biology cant be impugned by Psychology as Social-Science-discounting-biology-for-ideological-reasons. The latter exists because progressives run academia and as such are biased toward blank slatist explanations and despise genetic explanations. If Nazis ran academia then we'd have an equivalent situation. But I am sure sjws say something similar so this obvious point will be missed
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  30. Oh and seems to interpret criticising peer review with wanting no control or regulation
  31. http://archive.is/VHNSF
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  33. http://archive.is/ioW81
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  35. And has sulked for days after this, with snide gotchas (which is what his above arguments mostly took the form of)
  36. http://archive.is/X7pAL
  37. Autistic Rage's comment in particular
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  41. http://archive.is/t6NaB
  42. qualified shitlord makes the same comment every time. Amd once again, it isnt true, pepple disagreeing with vee are in fact arguing their case
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  44. And Vee got roasted a few times
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  47. Nothing Vee is saying is a refutation of the JQ. In fact, he is arguing the same basic logic but pointing out instances where Germans are doing something similar, without actually challenging any of the specific claims used to single out Jews in particular. Therefore one is simply affirming that arguments like the JQ are valid and can be applied to Jews like anyone else, that group dynamics can be evaluated as an abstract socio-political struggle over institutions and ideas, and that Jewish political activity can be judged by this metric of group conflict. Even reaching the same conclusion that a group behaving pathologically and with little regard for the common good while in positions of power would be bad, resulting in the use of society's institutions against the good of said society.
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  49. The JQ never states this can't happen with others, simply contends that Jews are better at this subtle game by virtue of certain traits and as such make a particularly pathological Elite Class to White Gentiles. Which is why responding to specific claims about them matters. Otherwise it's almost like arguing East Asians being smarter than Whites refutes race realism.
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  51. Moreover, in his example, the Germans are doing it to themselves too. And in the past were a competing group intent on furthering itself. All perfectly in line with Altright observations about humanity.
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  53. And lastly, we do we Jews all over the west behaving this way. We don't we German transplants doing so. We didnt see many German goyim in the frankfurt school either, which goes along with viewing them as especially relevant at this moment and possibly more pernicious
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  55. Args with these people in a nutshell
  56. http://archive.is/kJtiz
  57. http://archive.is/OeIGl
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