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- A federal grand jury
- in Detroit today
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- charged the 13 top leaders
- of the Weathermen
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- with plotting to bomb
- public buildings
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- 00:00:45,208 --> 00:00:48,774
- in Chicago, Detroit, New York
- and Berkeley, California.
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- 00:00:48,775 --> 00:00:50,907
- The Weathermen are
- the militant faction
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- of the Students for a
- Democratic Society.
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- 00:00:53,108 --> 00:00:56,582
- Only one of the 13
- is now in custody.
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- 00:00:58,975 --> 00:01:01,340
- Never before has this
- nation fought a war
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- 00:01:01,341 --> 00:01:05,954
- which so many Americans opposed
- for so many different reasons.
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- 00:01:06,208 --> 00:01:09,640
- Never has this dissent been
- as emotional, as intense,
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- 00:01:09,641 --> 00:01:12,934
- as is the dissent against
- the war in Vietnam.
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- The bomb went off at the State
- Department and did a lot of damage.
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- Another was detonated in Oakland.
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- Three suspects remain at large after
- a security guard was shot and killed
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- during a robbery at
- the Bank of Michigan.
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- The FBI has released the names Mimi
- Lurie, Nicholas Sloan and Sharon Solarz,
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- all members of the radical anti-war
- group, the Weather Underground.
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- 00:02:16,741 --> 00:02:18,974
- Come on, you guys. Let's go.
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- 00:02:18,975 --> 00:02:20,074
- Bye, Mom.
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- 00:02:20,075 --> 00:02:21,840
- Don't forget, I have
- practice after school.
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- 00:02:21,841 --> 00:02:24,406
- What are you still practicing for?
- You already got into college.
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- Ha-ha.
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- 00:02:25,908 --> 00:02:28,674
- Hey, get out of the
- front seat. That's mine!
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- 00:02:28,675 --> 00:02:31,216
- - Where's Dad?
- - Hey, Dad, hurry up!
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- 00:03:20,241 --> 00:03:22,007
- - There you go. Have a good one.
- - Thanks.
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- 00:03:22,008 --> 00:03:24,374
- - Hey.
- - Hey.
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- 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:26,107
- - That's $25.74.
- - Thank you.
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- 00:03:26,108 --> 00:03:27,840
- - Want that warmed up?
- - No, thanks.
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- 00:03:27,841 --> 00:03:29,240
- Okay.
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- 00:03:43,208 --> 00:03:45,174
- Don't move! Hands in the air!
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- 00:03:45,175 --> 00:03:47,443
- Don't move! Federal agents!
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- 00:03:47,474 --> 00:03:48,974
- - Against the car.
- - Stay still!
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- Hands behind your back.
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- 00:03:50,508 --> 00:03:55,207
- Sharon Solarz, you are under arrest
- for the murder of Hugh Krosney.
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- 00:03:55,208 --> 00:03:56,707
- You have the right
- to remain silent.
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- 00:03:56,708 --> 00:03:58,439
- If you give up that right,
- anything you say
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- can and will be used against
- you in a court of law.
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- 00:04:00,675 --> 00:04:02,207
- You have a right to an attorney.
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- 00:04:02,208 --> 00:04:05,074
- If you cannot afford one,
- one will be provided for you.
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- Do you understand these rights?
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- 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,774
- Sharon Elizabeth Solarz, one of
- the longest-standing fugitives
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- 00:04:10,775 --> 00:04:14,174
- on the FBI's Most Wanted
- list, was arrested yesterday
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- 00:04:14,175 --> 00:04:17,774
- just outside Heatherton, New York,
- 30 years after the notorious
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- 00:04:17,775 --> 00:04:20,540
- Bank of Michigan robbery that
- claimed the life of a guard.
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- 00:04:20,541 --> 00:04:23,074
- - Good morning, Jess.
- - You're late.
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- 00:04:23,075 --> 00:04:26,240
- Well, if I'm not here,
- they can't fire me, right?
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- 00:04:26,241 --> 00:04:29,279
- - You look beautiful.
- - Thanks.
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- 00:04:33,408 --> 00:04:35,507
- Oh, look at that.
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- A national story right in our own
- backyard, and where were we?
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- 00:04:39,308 --> 00:04:40,874
- Hold on. Crime was
- Jachanowitz's. You fired him.
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- 00:04:40,875 --> 00:04:42,107
- Yeah, and I passed it on to you.
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- Along with the courts and the Statehouse
- and, like, 55 other things. I mean...
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- This is news, Ben. This!
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- We're a goddamn
- newspaper, remember?
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- 00:04:54,741 --> 00:04:56,640
- So why don't you go out
- and write a nice little story
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- that informs our readers,
- while we still have a few?
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- 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,538
- I'm sorry, okay?
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- 00:05:03,708 --> 00:05:06,102
- It's that bad, huh?
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- 00:05:07,008 --> 00:05:10,080
- Do you still have your friend
- in the FBI field office?
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- 00:05:11,474 --> 00:05:14,713
- In theory, although I'm not sure she
- ever wants to speak to me again.
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- 00:05:16,075 --> 00:05:18,174
- You keep telling me you're
- a good reporter, right?
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- Right.
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- Prove it.
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- 00:05:24,407 --> 00:05:27,774
- These were major radicals,
- Ben, who know how to hide.
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- 00:05:27,775 --> 00:05:31,944
- So how does the FBI find
- her after 30 years? Hmm?
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- 00:05:37,341 --> 00:05:42,240
- So, let me see, the State wants to seize
- private property and transfer it, right?
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- 00:05:42,241 --> 00:05:45,307
- Yes, I know what
- "eminent domain" is.
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- I will if I have to. The Court
- of Appeals exists for a reason.
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- - Izzy!
- - Yeah?
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- You better be getting ready.
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- 00:05:53,208 --> 00:05:54,774
- Uh-huh.
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- Oh, and you're saying
- that satisfies public use?
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- 00:06:00,641 --> 00:06:02,674
- Really?
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- 00:06:02,675 --> 00:06:05,074
- - Izzy? You ready?
- - Yeah.
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- Come on! We're going to be late.
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- 00:06:06,941 --> 00:06:10,670
- - We're not gonna be late.
- - You wanna bet?
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- My client bought it from his dad,
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- - who bought it from his dad...
- - Come on, Dad.
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- 00:06:21,241 --> 00:06:24,340
- ...and hopes one day
- to sell it to his son.
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- It's a great family. I'm sure the
- jury would enjoy meeting them.
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- Okay.
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- - Right on time.
- - All set?
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- 00:06:37,108 --> 00:06:40,782
- - Yup.
- - You got your lunch?
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- No.
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- 00:06:54,741 --> 00:06:58,140
- - So, what's last? Math?
- - No, I've got volleyball.
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- Oh, okay. I'll pick you
- up after practice.
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- Okay.
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- Hey, what's your hurry?
- Haven't you forgotten something?
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- Billy.
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- 00:07:16,708 --> 00:07:18,307
- - Hi, Mr. Cusimano.
- - Hi, sweetie.
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- 00:07:18,308 --> 00:07:19,807
- Aren't your kids a little
- old for this school?
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- 00:07:19,808 --> 00:07:22,707
- Ah, I came to see you.
- You seen the news?
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- 00:07:22,708 --> 00:07:26,406
- - Oh, they're still reporting the news?
- - Sharon Solarz.
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- 00:07:26,407 --> 00:07:27,974
- Go ahead, go ahead.
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- - You know who she is, right?
- - What?
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- She was busted, man. She was
- arrested over in Heatherton.
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- 00:07:33,908 --> 00:07:36,074
- - Why are you telling me this?
- - Because Sharon's an old friend.
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- 00:07:36,075 --> 00:07:37,974
- Are you in trouble, Billy?
- You know, you're still on parole.
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- I'm clean, man.
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- 00:07:39,641 --> 00:07:41,978
- Well, what's going on?
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- 00:07:43,341 --> 00:07:44,940
- She called me, wanted
- to turn herself in,
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- 00:07:44,941 --> 00:07:46,406
- but the Feds are assholes.
- They don't care...
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- 00:07:46,407 --> 00:07:47,607
- But you can't get
- involved in something...
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- 00:07:47,608 --> 00:07:50,274
- - She's a friend. She needs a lawyer.
- - Well, I can't be her lawyer.
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- 00:07:50,275 --> 00:07:53,473
- They knew exactly where she was going
- to be, Jim, all right? Exactly. They knew.
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- 00:07:53,474 --> 00:07:55,473
- - This is out of my league.
- - They knew exactly.
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- Out of my league.
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- - I can't let her twist in the wind.
- - I can't do it.
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- 00:08:00,841 --> 00:08:03,348
- I have a kid that
- just lost her mom.
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- 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:06,045
- It's been a year.
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- 00:08:07,708 --> 00:08:09,680
- Sorry.
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- 00:08:11,175 --> 00:08:13,607
- Call Maggie Hart.
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- 00:08:13,608 --> 00:08:16,786
- Lockwood and Dunlop, Philly.
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- 00:08:17,108 --> 00:08:20,514
- Okay? She's great. Better than me.
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- 00:08:20,941 --> 00:08:22,439
- Sorry.
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- Please set it here.
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- Go ahead.
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- 00:08:36,608 --> 00:08:39,807
- - So, you moved her this morning?
- - Why do you care?
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- 00:08:39,808 --> 00:08:43,307
- - I thought you were covering politics now.
- - Well, I'm multi-talented.
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- 00:08:43,308 --> 00:08:46,274
- How come she was arrested here if she's
- been a Vermont housewife for 30 years?
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- 00:08:46,275 --> 00:08:47,340
- You'd have to ask her that.
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- 00:08:47,341 --> 00:08:49,440
- You know, it's funny you should mention
- it, Di, 'cause, from what I hear,
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- 00:08:49,441 --> 00:08:52,207
- people give jailhouse
- interviews all the time.
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- 00:08:52,208 --> 00:08:55,340
- Who do you think you are,
- The New York Times?
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- 00:08:55,341 --> 00:08:58,007
- You say "New York Times" like it's
- 1985 and you're still impressed.
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- 00:08:58,008 --> 00:08:59,607
- You're just a local beat reporter.
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- 00:08:59,608 --> 00:09:02,570
- I love it when you do
- that with your hair.
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- 00:09:04,541 --> 00:09:07,874
- This is a national news story. I think
- you should go home and tweet about it.
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- 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:10,640
- - I don't tweet.
- - Right. You don't e-mail, either.
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- 00:09:10,641 --> 00:09:13,507
- Can I just see the case file,
- for old times' sake? Please?
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- 00:09:13,508 --> 00:09:14,574
- You think, 'cause we
- hooked up in college,
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- I'm gonna give you
- access to FBI wiretaps?
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- 00:09:17,775 --> 00:09:19,774
- Wiretaps?
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- 00:09:19,775 --> 00:09:21,473
- - What wiretaps?
- - This is why I don't talk to you.
- 135
- 00:09:21,474 --> 00:09:23,107
- And we didn't just hook up
- in college, okay? We were...
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- 00:09:23,108 --> 00:09:25,040
- I have to go.
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- 00:09:25,041 --> 00:09:27,307
- - New sheriff in town?
- - You, you...
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- 00:09:27,308 --> 00:09:29,540
- - How can you tell?
- - That's how it usually goes, right?
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- 00:09:29,541 --> 00:09:31,807
- Big case like this, they usually
- bring in someone from out of town,
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- 00:09:31,808 --> 00:09:33,307
- grab all the glory.
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- 00:09:33,308 --> 00:09:35,640
- 'Course, the local field office should
- at least get credit in the local paper.
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- 00:09:35,641 --> 00:09:37,707
- Why don't I go put in a good word
- for you? I'm a very social guy.
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- 00:09:37,708 --> 00:09:39,607
- Billy Cusimano.
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- 00:09:39,608 --> 00:09:42,574
- - Organic grocery guy?
- - It didn't come from me.
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- 00:09:42,575 --> 00:09:46,050
- No, just a "well-placed, extremely
- attractive government source."
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- 00:09:47,608 --> 00:09:49,854
- Cusimano.
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- 00:09:56,875 --> 00:09:59,174
- Hey, Dad. Here?
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- 00:09:59,175 --> 00:10:01,080
- Yeah.
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- 00:10:03,208 --> 00:10:05,181
- Hello.
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- 00:10:12,141 --> 00:10:14,240
- Billy Cusimano?
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- 00:10:14,241 --> 00:10:17,307
- My name's Ben Shepard,
- from the Albany Sun Times.
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- 00:10:17,308 --> 00:10:20,439
- I wanted to ask you a few questions
- about the Sharon Solarz arrest.
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- 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,439
- You can, but why would
- I comment about that?
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- 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,107
- Well, you know her, don't you?
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- 00:10:25,108 --> 00:10:27,319
- No, I don't.
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- 00:10:28,641 --> 00:10:30,880
- A quick search of police records
- shows you and Sharon together...
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- 00:10:30,881 --> 00:10:34,940
- - in Mendocino in 1971.
- - I've never been to Mendocino.
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- 00:10:34,941 --> 00:10:36,640
- That's not true, is it?
- You were dealing hash there
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- 00:10:36,641 --> 00:10:38,640
- for an outfit called The
- Brotherhood of Eternal Love,
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- 00:10:38,641 --> 00:10:41,340
- which is a great name, by the way.
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- 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:44,546
- Sharon been in touch recently?
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- 00:10:44,608 --> 00:10:47,752
- Look, I know she called
- you prior to her arrest.
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- 00:10:47,841 --> 00:10:49,040
- You talked to Jim Grant?
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- 00:10:49,041 --> 00:10:50,874
- No, I talked to the FBI.
- Who's Jim Grant?
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- 00:10:50,875 --> 00:10:52,074
- Who's the FBI?
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- 00:10:52,075 --> 00:10:53,774
- Well, they had you on a
- wiretap here for a while,
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- 00:10:53,775 --> 00:10:56,907
- so it seems you're growing something more
- than tomatoes and potatoes here, Billy.
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- 00:10:56,908 --> 00:10:59,007
- Shit. That's why I
- pay taxes, right?
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- 00:10:59,008 --> 00:11:01,907
- So Big Brother can
- hack my fucking phone.
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- 00:11:01,908 --> 00:11:04,507
- - Who's Jim Grant?
- - He's a lawyer, man.
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- 00:11:04,508 --> 00:11:07,140
- - Lawyer? Sharon's?
- - Nah.
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- 00:11:07,141 --> 00:11:10,307
- He wouldn't take the case.
- Look, kid, Sharon called me,
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- 00:11:10,308 --> 00:11:11,807
- - wanted to turn herself in.
- - Turn herself in?
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- 00:11:11,808 --> 00:11:14,240
- No, I'm not saying anything else.
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- 00:11:14,241 --> 00:11:16,607
- - Everything here is off the record.
- - See, it doesn't work that way.
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- 00:11:16,608 --> 00:11:18,940
- You've got to say "off the record"
- before we have the conversation.
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- 00:11:18,941 --> 00:11:21,274
- - Who says?
- - Those are the rules.
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- 00:11:21,275 --> 00:11:24,841
- There's rules for what
- you people do, huh?
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- 00:11:46,375 --> 00:11:48,240
- So, what did she say?
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- 00:11:48,241 --> 00:11:52,808
- She said that I did great and
- that she was very impressed.
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- 00:11:54,108 --> 00:11:55,207
- What did I tell you?
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- 00:12:01,675 --> 00:12:04,740
- - Yeah?
- - Hi, uh, is this Mr. Grant?
- 183
- 00:12:04,741 --> 00:12:07,282
- This is Ben Shepard from
- the Albany Sun Times.
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- 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,807
- Oh, yes?
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- 00:12:08,808 --> 00:12:12,407
- Just wondered if you'd care to
- comment on the Sharon Solarz arrest?
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- 00:12:12,408 --> 00:12:14,207
- - What?
- - The Sharon Solarz arrest.
- 187
- 00:12:14,208 --> 00:12:16,007
- You declined to take her
- case, and I was just...
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- 00:12:16,008 --> 00:12:17,840
- You know, I'm just sitting
- down to dinner right now.
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- 00:12:17,841 --> 00:12:21,878
- - Uh, I gotta call you back, okay?
- - Uh, sir, I just...
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- 00:12:29,474 --> 00:12:31,874
- As the turbulent decade
- drew to a close,
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- 00:12:31,875 --> 00:12:35,174
- Students for a Democratic Society,
- the leading student group
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- 00:12:35,175 --> 00:12:38,140
- opposed to the war in Vietnam,
- had its power usurped
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- 00:12:38,141 --> 00:12:43,040
- by a more militant faction known as
- the Weather Underground Organization.
- 194
- 00:12:43,041 --> 00:12:45,407
- Frustrated with years
- of non-violent protests
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- 00:12:45,408 --> 00:12:48,707
- that had failed to end the war,
- the so-called Weathermen
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- 00:12:48,708 --> 00:12:51,974
- decided the best way to stop
- America's involvement in Vietnam
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- 00:12:51,975 --> 00:12:54,140
- was to bring the war home.
- 198
- 00:12:54,141 --> 00:12:56,774
- The Weathermen radicalized
- the anti-war movement
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- 00:12:56,775 --> 00:13:00,007
- and carried out a series of bombings
- against government institutions,
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- 00:13:00,008 --> 00:13:04,439
- including bombing the Pentagon, the
- US Capitol and the State Department.
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- 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,970
- No group has been more successful
- in carrying out attacks on US soil.
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- 00:13:18,241 --> 00:13:20,974
- - What's wrong?
- - Nothing.
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- 00:13:20,975 --> 00:13:24,485
- - You look weird.
- - I'm fine, honey.
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- 00:13:24,941 --> 00:13:26,707
- You're lying.
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- 00:13:26,708 --> 00:13:28,307
- I'm not lying.
- 206
- 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:31,740
- You are lying because
- you're smiling.
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- 00:13:31,741 --> 00:13:35,740
- - I'm not smiling.
- - "I'm not smiling."
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- 00:13:35,741 --> 00:13:38,473
- Well, maybe I'm happy. Here.
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- 00:13:38,474 --> 00:13:40,777
- Come on, eat.
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- 00:13:41,208 --> 00:13:43,783
- I'm gonna get ready.
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- 00:13:49,474 --> 00:13:51,840
- - Hey.
- - Hey.
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- 00:13:51,841 --> 00:13:55,607
- - You Jim Grant, by chance?
- - Not by chance.
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- 00:13:55,608 --> 00:13:58,740
- Would you follow up on those
- countersignatures from Roger, please?
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- 00:13:58,741 --> 00:13:59,940
- Yup.
- 215
- 00:13:59,941 --> 00:14:02,007
- I'm Ben Shepard, Albany Sun Times.
- We spoke on the phone.
- 216
- 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:04,707
- - I just figured I'd come by and say...
- - I don't really have anything to say.
- 217
- 00:14:04,708 --> 00:14:07,507
- Oh, and, Susan, would you pull
- out the Rochester files from...
- 218
- 00:14:07,508 --> 00:14:08,807
- You don't know what I'm
- going to ask you yet.
- 219
- 00:14:08,808 --> 00:14:10,740
- ...my report for my
- deposition... What?
- 220
- 00:14:10,741 --> 00:14:13,439
- I said, you don't know what
- I'm going to ask you yet.
- 221
- 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,140
- But you're a reporter.
- 222
- 00:14:15,141 --> 00:14:17,407
- Well, I could just put "refused
- to answer any questions."
- 223
- 00:14:17,408 --> 00:14:21,280
- - What?
- - I'm just doing a little background, sir.
- 224
- 00:14:22,075 --> 00:14:24,377
- I'm sorry.
- 225
- 00:14:25,407 --> 00:14:26,507
- Okay.
- 226
- 00:14:26,508 --> 00:14:28,868
- Thank you. Thank you.
- 227
- 00:14:38,641 --> 00:14:41,840
- Uh, no, no. We're off
- the record here.
- 228
- 00:14:41,841 --> 00:14:43,907
- - Which part?
- - All of it.
- 229
- 00:14:43,908 --> 00:14:47,974
- Whatever it is we're going to be talking
- about here, otherwise you can leave, now.
- 230
- 00:14:47,975 --> 00:14:50,972
- No, that's fine.
- It's not important.
- 231
- 00:14:53,575 --> 00:14:57,406
- So, did Sharon Solarz contact
- you prior to her arrest?
- 232
- 00:14:57,407 --> 00:15:00,807
- Does it matter, since you
- already printed that she did?
- 233
- 00:15:00,808 --> 00:15:02,540
- Actually, what was printed was
- that she may have approached
- 234
- 00:15:02,541 --> 00:15:04,840
- a public interest lawyer who
- declined to take the case,
- 235
- 00:15:04,841 --> 00:15:07,439
- but your name was never mentioned.
- 236
- 00:15:11,941 --> 00:15:17,140
- There are 25 lawyers in the area.
- Nine do criminal, six do accidents,
- 237
- 00:15:17,141 --> 00:15:19,907
- five do deeds and four do
- closings, and then there's me.
- 238
- 00:15:19,908 --> 00:15:22,640
- - I wasn't insinuating...
- - To hell with accuracy, huh?
- 239
- 00:15:22,641 --> 00:15:25,674
- Be vague, be accusatory, and
- whatever sticks... That how it works?
- 240
- 00:15:25,675 --> 00:15:26,840
- Nothing I wrote was false.
- 241
- 00:15:26,841 --> 00:15:30,111
- You made it seem like I was
- harboring a known fugitive.
- 242
- 00:15:30,575 --> 00:15:32,507
- We can issue a correction.
- 243
- 00:15:32,508 --> 00:15:37,607
- Sharon Solarz did not contact me,
- and I have no involvement in her case.
- 244
- 00:15:37,608 --> 00:15:39,945
- - Really?
- - Really.
- 245
- 00:15:40,208 --> 00:15:43,406
- You know she's now being represented
- by a Margaret Hart in Philadelphia?
- 246
- 00:15:43,407 --> 00:15:44,740
- Right.
- 247
- 00:15:44,741 --> 00:15:47,040
- Miss Hart was a classmate
- of yours in law school.
- 248
- 00:15:47,041 --> 00:15:50,040
- Mmm-hmm. Lawyers know
- each other. That's news?
- 249
- 00:15:50,041 --> 00:15:53,207
- Yeah, but you did refer Miss
- Hart as counsel, didn't you?
- 250
- 00:15:53,208 --> 00:15:56,507
- - Says who?
- - Miss Hart herself, this morning.
- 251
- 00:15:56,508 --> 00:15:59,040
- Maggie Hart's one of the best
- defense lawyers in the country.
- 252
- 00:15:59,041 --> 00:16:01,740
- But why pass this off? I mean, that's
- what doesn't make sense to me.
- 253
- 00:16:01,741 --> 00:16:03,340
- Cases like this don't
- come around very often.
- 254
- 00:16:03,341 --> 00:16:04,683
- I'm sure I don't have
- to tell you that.
- 255
- 00:16:04,684 --> 00:16:07,439
- Sharon Solarz deserves a better
- defense than I can provide.
- 256
- 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,840
- - "Deserves"?
- - Thank you.
- 257
- 00:16:08,841 --> 00:16:10,407
- That's an interesting word choice.
- 258
- 00:16:10,408 --> 00:16:14,274
- You know, it may seem untrue to
- you, but we do live in a free country
- 259
- 00:16:14,275 --> 00:16:17,007
- and people are entitled
- to a decent defense.
- 260
- 00:16:17,008 --> 00:16:19,574
- Now, look, I got work to do.
- 261
- 00:16:19,575 --> 00:16:21,907
- You've handled First Amendment
- cases, labor cases.
- 262
- 00:16:21,908 --> 00:16:23,374
- You worked hand in
- glove with the ACLU.
- 263
- 00:16:23,375 --> 00:16:25,674
- I mean, this is right in
- your wheelhouse, isn't it?
- 264
- 00:16:25,675 --> 00:16:27,374
- Is this what you came
- here to talk about?
- 265
- 00:16:27,375 --> 00:16:29,304
- I'm not sure yet.
- 266
- 00:16:29,941 --> 00:16:32,140
- Well, that pretty well sums
- up why journalism is dead.
- 267
- 00:16:32,141 --> 00:16:33,274
- Now, do you mind?
- 268
- 00:16:33,275 --> 00:16:36,640
- - Why did Billy Cusimano come to you?
- - I don't know.
- 269
- 00:16:36,641 --> 00:16:38,174
- Well, how well do you
- know Billy Cusimano?
- 270
- 00:16:38,175 --> 00:16:40,374
- - I don't, really.
- - I mean, you do, really.
- 271
- 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:42,974
- You represented him a few years
- back on a drug case. You got him off.
- 272
- 00:16:42,975 --> 00:16:45,119
- I represent a lot of people. Jesus.
- 273
- 00:16:45,608 --> 00:16:49,473
- Mis... Look, I'm not trying to
- offend you, Mr. Grant. I'm...
- 274
- 00:16:49,474 --> 00:16:52,406
- Oh, I'm not offended. You're pretty
- much exactly what I expected.
- 275
- 00:16:52,407 --> 00:16:55,552
- Susan, I'll call you from the car.
- 276
- 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,040
- Sir...
- 277
- 00:16:58,041 --> 00:17:00,907
- Mr. Grant. I'm just trying
- to put the pieces together.
- 278
- 00:17:00,908 --> 00:17:02,439
- Look. Look, look, listen.
- 279
- 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,774
- I didn't take the case
- because I'm a single parent
- 280
- 00:17:04,775 --> 00:17:07,507
- with a private practice and too
- much on my plate, all right?
- 281
- 00:17:07,508 --> 00:17:09,540
- If I could have
- helped, I would have.
- 282
- 00:17:09,541 --> 00:17:13,040
- Because you're sympathetic to their
- cause? You agree with their tactics?
- 283
- 00:17:13,041 --> 00:17:15,207
- You know, clearly you have
- some kind of an agenda here.
- 284
- 00:17:15,208 --> 00:17:16,840
- - I don't have time for this bullshit.
- - I don't actually.
- 285
- 00:17:16,841 --> 00:17:19,144
- I don't care much for either side.
- 286
- 00:17:19,308 --> 00:17:22,055
- So, what? That makes
- you fair and balanced?
- 287
- 00:17:22,275 --> 00:17:25,540
- You know, it's a funny thing. Thirty
- years ago, a smart guy like you
- 288
- 00:17:25,541 --> 00:17:29,307
- probably would have been involved
- with the movement yourself.
- 289
- 00:17:29,308 --> 00:17:32,577
- I hope you get what you're
- looking for, kid. Take care.
- 290
- 00:17:51,474 --> 00:17:55,109
- You told me... You did! Forget it!
- 291
- 00:17:57,741 --> 00:18:00,044
- Oh, thank you.
- 292
- 00:18:26,575 --> 00:18:28,274
- One sec. Hang on.
- 293
- 00:18:28,275 --> 00:18:30,140
- Here you go.
- 294
- 00:18:30,141 --> 00:18:32,074
- - Thank you for doing this.
- - No worries, man.
- 295
- 00:18:32,075 --> 00:18:34,650
- - I got you.
- - Thank you.
- 296
- 00:18:36,375 --> 00:18:38,279
- Yeah.
- 297
- 00:18:55,175 --> 00:18:57,940
- Hey, guys. Sorry I'm late.
- 298
- 00:18:57,941 --> 00:19:00,807
- Not a problem. We're having fun.
- 299
- 00:19:02,775 --> 00:19:04,007
- You do your homework?
- 300
- 00:19:04,008 --> 00:19:05,607
- Of course.
- 301
- 00:19:05,608 --> 00:19:08,684
- Good. Thank you.
- 302
- 00:19:09,341 --> 00:19:11,734
- I'm the one who did it.
- 303
- 00:19:12,175 --> 00:19:15,104
- Oh, oh, well, thank you.
- 304
- 00:19:22,775 --> 00:19:25,806
- She's getting better every day.
- 305
- 00:19:26,075 --> 00:19:27,980
- Yeah.
- 306
- 00:20:59,241 --> 00:21:00,774
- Hey.
- 307
- 00:21:00,775 --> 00:21:02,274
- Sorry, can you walk me
- through that research?
- 308
- 00:21:02,275 --> 00:21:04,668
- - Yeah.
- - Thank you.
- 309
- 00:21:06,407 --> 00:21:09,007
- It's, uh, all basic stuff.
- 310
- 00:21:09,008 --> 00:21:12,774
- He was born in
- Bakersfield, California,
- 311
- 00:21:12,775 --> 00:21:15,740
- attended Iowa State University,
- University of Virginia Law,
- 312
- 00:21:15,741 --> 00:21:17,840
- met his wife while
- working at the...
- 313
- 00:21:17,841 --> 00:21:18,940
- Planet Earth...
- 314
- 00:21:18,941 --> 00:21:20,439
- Earth First! Foundation.
- 315
- 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,607
- Came up here,
- started his own practice.
- 316
- 00:21:23,608 --> 00:21:26,473
- This his wife?
- What happened to her?
- 317
- 00:21:26,474 --> 00:21:29,406
- Car accident. 48 years old.
- 318
- 00:21:29,407 --> 00:21:32,207
- - Wow, that's horrible.
- - Yeah.
- 319
- 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:35,674
- You meet a younger woman, you have
- a kid, she's not supposed to die on you.
- 320
- 00:21:35,675 --> 00:21:39,340
- She's supposed to meet a car salesman
- and move to Vegas, like mine did.
- 321
- 00:21:39,341 --> 00:21:42,207
- - Anything else?
- - Um, house is paid for.
- 322
- 00:21:42,208 --> 00:21:44,174
- He's obviously a
- responsible single parent,
- 323
- 00:21:44,175 --> 00:21:46,707
- pillar of society, do-gooder,
- a lot of pro-bono work.
- 324
- 00:21:46,708 --> 00:21:50,911
- Right, so basically nothing I
- can turn into a story. Great.
- 325
- 00:22:26,041 --> 00:22:27,240
- Hello, Dan?
- 326
- 00:22:27,241 --> 00:22:29,807
- I cannot believe you're calling me.
- 327
- 00:22:29,808 --> 00:22:32,007
- - I know.
- - This is a goddamn nightmare.
- 328
- 00:22:32,008 --> 00:22:33,374
- - Dan...
- - I... I...
- 329
- 00:22:33,375 --> 00:22:34,874
- I don't want anything
- to do with this.
- 330
- 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:39,036
- Dan, you're my brother.
- I need your help.
- 331
- 00:22:42,875 --> 00:22:44,674
- Go ahead.
- 332
- 00:23:08,341 --> 00:23:11,473
- Ray, who's your best reporter?
- 333
- 00:23:11,474 --> 00:23:13,674
- - Mansfield.
- - Mansfield?
- 334
- 00:23:13,675 --> 00:23:15,738
- Bullshit.
- 335
- 00:23:16,675 --> 00:23:18,607
- - Please, have a seat.
- - Look.
- 336
- 00:23:18,608 --> 00:23:21,774
- So, at first I think Grant's
- trying to link up with the others.
- 337
- 00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:23,307
- - Yeah?
- - Help negotiate a deal, bring them in,
- 338
- 00:23:23,308 --> 00:23:24,374
- like Solarz tried.
- 339
- 00:23:24,375 --> 00:23:25,940
- Yeah, well, that would
- make a good story.
- 340
- 00:23:25,941 --> 00:23:29,574
- It gets so much better. So, I go
- and I look at the man's history.
- 341
- 00:23:29,575 --> 00:23:32,074
- Right? See if he has any known
- associations to the Weathermen.
- 342
- 00:23:32,075 --> 00:23:33,140
- - Mmm-hmm.
- - Nothing.
- 343
- 00:23:33,141 --> 00:23:34,307
- So?
- 344
- 00:23:34,308 --> 00:23:38,442
- Nothing on the man at all. The
- man doesn't exist before 1979.
- 345
- 00:23:38,508 --> 00:23:40,332
- Look at this.
- 346
- 00:23:41,675 --> 00:23:45,184
- I had it wrong, Ray. He's dead.
- 347
- 00:23:47,575 --> 00:23:51,874
- Jim Grant is not trying to represent
- Mimi Lurie or Nick Sloan.
- 348
- 00:23:51,875 --> 00:23:54,712
- Jim Grant is Nick Sloan.
- 349
- 00:23:59,008 --> 00:24:00,674
- - I'm tired.
- - I know, sweetheart,
- 350
- 00:24:00,675 --> 00:24:02,740
- but we have to get an early start.
- 351
- 00:24:02,741 --> 00:24:04,207
- For school?
- 352
- 00:24:04,208 --> 00:24:06,240
- No, we're not going to school.
- 353
- 00:24:06,241 --> 00:24:07,740
- Then where are we going?
- 354
- 00:24:07,741 --> 00:24:09,507
- Well, we're gonna
- go on a little trip.
- 355
- 00:24:09,508 --> 00:24:11,753
- - A trip?
- - Uh-huh.
- 356
- 00:24:15,474 --> 00:24:18,240
- Breaking news this morning
- from the Albany Sun Times,
- 357
- 00:24:18,241 --> 00:24:21,707
- reporting former '70s radical
- fugitive Nicholas Sloan
- 358
- 00:24:21,708 --> 00:24:26,007
- has been discovered in Albany, living
- as a lawyer named James Grant.
- 359
- 00:24:26,008 --> 00:24:31,257
- Sloan is wanted for murder and has been
- on the run for more than 30 years.
- 360
- 00:24:32,041 --> 00:24:34,807
- All right, people, what
- do we have on Grant?
- 361
- 00:24:34,808 --> 00:24:38,174
- His E-ZPass paid a toll at 4:00 this
- morning on I-87, heading north.
- 362
- 00:24:38,175 --> 00:24:40,207
- The border's already been alerted.
- 363
- 00:24:40,208 --> 00:24:42,007
- We have an agent
- talking to his secretary.
- 364
- 00:24:42,008 --> 00:24:43,406
- Why don't we have a
- better picture of Grant?
- 365
- 00:24:43,407 --> 00:24:44,574
- We're working on it.
- 366
- 00:24:44,575 --> 00:24:48,714
- - Well, what about from his house?
- - Just waiting on the warrant.
- 367
- 00:24:56,941 --> 00:24:59,374
- Their bodies are so bendy.
- 368
- 00:24:59,375 --> 00:25:02,156
- You know this one's name?
- 369
- 00:25:03,742 --> 00:25:06,240
- The border security cams are still being
- checked. There's no matches yet.
- 370
- 00:25:06,241 --> 00:25:08,174
- Does Grant have any family?
- 371
- 00:25:08,175 --> 00:25:09,740
- Uh, a daughter, 11.
- 372
- 00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:11,607
- Is she with him? Call the school.
- 373
- 00:25:11,608 --> 00:25:12,807
- She didn't show.
- 374
- 00:25:12,808 --> 00:25:14,640
- Both parents deceased,
- brother in New York.
- 375
- 00:25:14,641 --> 00:25:16,340
- All right, put a
- tail on the brother.
- 376
- 00:25:16,341 --> 00:25:20,140
- I want bank accounts, credit
- cards tracked, not frozen.
- 377
- 00:25:20,141 --> 00:25:22,274
- Where are we on the Title Ill?
- 378
- 00:25:22,275 --> 00:25:24,174
- I want a bug every place
- this guy is known to go.
- 379
- 00:25:24,175 --> 00:25:28,140
- I mean, somebody somewhere knows
- something, and someone's going to talk.
- 380
- 00:25:28,141 --> 00:25:29,207
- Now, come on, people.
- 381
- 00:25:29,208 --> 00:25:31,374
- This guy's been making us
- look bad for 30 years now.
- 382
- 00:25:31,375 --> 00:25:33,917
- Let's not be stupid.
- 383
- 00:25:33,975 --> 00:25:36,813
- Welcome to the Rosewood.
- 384
- 00:25:40,008 --> 00:25:42,344
- Right this way.
- 385
- 00:25:53,407 --> 00:25:56,041
- - Just one moment.
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 386
- 00:26:03,375 --> 00:26:04,841
- - There you go.
- - Thank you.
- 387
- 00:26:04,842 --> 00:26:07,274
- - Enjoy your stay, Mr. Graves.
- - Thank you.
- 388
- 00:26:07,275 --> 00:26:09,180
- Bye.
- 389
- 00:26:46,342 --> 00:26:48,405
- What's that?
- 390
- 00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:51,643
- What's...
- 391
- 00:26:53,908 --> 00:26:55,240
- What happened?
- 392
- 00:26:55,241 --> 00:26:57,240
- It's behind the napkin.
- 393
- 00:26:57,241 --> 00:26:59,940
- - What?
- - What?
- 394
- 00:26:59,941 --> 00:27:01,765
- Eagle eyes.
- 395
- 00:27:01,975 --> 00:27:04,938
- So, tell me something. What, uh...
- 396
- 00:27:06,175 --> 00:27:08,641
- What was the best thing
- that happened to you today?
- 397
- 00:27:08,642 --> 00:27:13,406
- Um, well, I got a pet seal...
- 398
- 00:27:13,407 --> 00:27:16,473
- Well, not a pet seal,
- but a little seal doll.
- 399
- 00:27:16,474 --> 00:27:19,274
- And does it... Did
- you give it a name?
- 400
- 00:27:19,275 --> 00:27:21,338
- I named her Harper.
- 401
- 00:27:21,608 --> 00:27:23,640
- - Harper?
- - Yeah.
- 402
- 00:27:23,641 --> 00:27:24,707
- Why Harper?
- 403
- 00:27:24,708 --> 00:27:26,840
- 'Cause it's a harbor
- seal, and now...
- 404
- 00:27:26,841 --> 00:27:28,041
- - "Harbor."
- - Yeah.
- 405
- 00:27:28,042 --> 00:27:30,307
- So, it's Harper, harbor.
- Harper, harbor.
- 406
- 00:27:30,308 --> 00:27:32,074
- Oh, Harper, harbor.
- Oh, I get the connection.
- 407
- 00:27:32,075 --> 00:27:35,606
- So, right. Well, where is it?
- Where's Harper?
- 408
- 00:27:36,575 --> 00:27:39,174
- Hmm. Not there.
- 409
- 00:27:41,841 --> 00:27:45,679
- Somebody you should love you
- should keep close to, you know?
- 410
- 00:27:46,575 --> 00:27:48,074
- We're disappointed in you.
- 411
- 00:27:48,575 --> 00:27:51,353
- You're disappointed in me?
- 412
- 00:28:12,575 --> 00:28:16,743
- Daniel Sloan is on the move.
- We're tracking him.
- 413
- 00:28:47,675 --> 00:28:50,069
- See you soon.
- 414
- 00:29:18,041 --> 00:29:21,374
- Daniel Sloan has stopped
- at the Rosewood Hotel.
- 415
- 00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:24,246
- We're keeping a safe distance.
- 416
- 00:30:12,942 --> 00:30:18,078
- You two canvass the stairwell.
- You take the elevators.
- 417
- 00:30:22,508 --> 00:30:25,208
- Hey, what's that noise?
- 418
- 00:30:25,908 --> 00:30:27,740
- It's the goddamn fire alarm.
- 419
- 00:30:27,741 --> 00:30:30,341
- Okay, lock down the building
- now. No one goes in or out.
- 420
- 00:30:30,342 --> 00:30:31,841
- Not if there's a fire.
- 421
- 00:30:36,842 --> 00:30:39,770
- Daddy? Dad!
- 422
- 00:30:40,075 --> 00:30:42,377
- Come on.
- 423
- 00:30:48,608 --> 00:30:51,407
- - Okay, what the hell is happening?
- - They're evacuating the building.
- 424
- 00:30:51,408 --> 00:30:54,974
- Shit! It's a diversion. It's...
- 425
- 00:30:54,975 --> 00:30:57,174
- Contact the local police
- and fire department.
- 426
- 00:30:57,175 --> 00:30:59,807
- Notify them that we have
- a dangerous fugitive.
- 427
- 00:30:59,808 --> 00:31:01,740
- Send them a description
- of Nicholas Sloan.
- 428
- 00:31:01,741 --> 00:31:04,007
- All right, what do we have on
- the brother, and where is he?
- 429
- 00:31:04,008 --> 00:31:06,840
- I have no idea, and the
- place is completely jammed.
- 430
- 00:31:06,841 --> 00:31:10,574
- - There's too many people. I can't...
- - I got 'em! East stairwell.
- 431
- 00:31:10,575 --> 00:31:12,207
- Don't move! Stay right there!
- 432
- 00:31:12,208 --> 00:31:13,741
- - Munro's got them.
- - Don't move.
- 433
- 00:31:13,742 --> 00:31:16,574
- I'm her uncle.
- The girl is my niece.
- 434
- 00:31:16,575 --> 00:31:19,931
- - I'm her guardian. I have papers.
- - Let me see.
- 435
- 00:31:21,808 --> 00:31:24,645
- Don't be scared. It's okay.
- 436
- 00:31:27,541 --> 00:31:29,174
- He's got custody papers.
- 437
- 00:31:29,175 --> 00:31:30,607
- It's Sloan's daughter.
- 438
- 00:31:30,608 --> 00:31:32,074
- Jesus Christ.
- 439
- 00:31:32,075 --> 00:31:33,907
- All right, he handed
- her off. He can't be far.
- 440
- 00:31:33,908 --> 00:31:37,707
- Send the second team down to the
- basement and post two officers outside.
- 441
- 00:31:55,841 --> 00:31:58,341
- Charles, around the corner.
- Come with me.
- 442
- 00:31:58,342 --> 00:32:00,769
- Eyes on the crowd.
- 443
- 00:32:01,208 --> 00:32:04,614
- The subway! Woods,
- let's check the subway!
- 444
- 00:32:34,275 --> 00:32:36,140
- Nothing here.
- 445
- 00:32:36,141 --> 00:32:37,707
- Let's go.
- 446
- 00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:39,107
- Sir, we can't find him.
- 447
- 00:32:40,275 --> 00:32:42,611
- Come on, people.
- 448
- 00:32:54,108 --> 00:32:56,473
- Sir, how long have you been in
- contact with Nicholas Sloan?
- 449
- 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:57,541
- No comment.
- 450
- 00:32:57,542 --> 00:32:58,740
- Is that his daughter?
- 451
- 00:32:58,741 --> 00:32:59,907
- No comment.
- 452
- 00:32:59,908 --> 00:33:00,974
- I want to get her home.
- 453
- 00:33:00,975 --> 00:33:03,741
- Fugitive terrorist Nicholas Sloan
- had apparently been practicing law
- 454
- 00:33:03,742 --> 00:33:07,074
- in Albany for three decades
- under the name James Grant
- 455
- 00:33:07,075 --> 00:33:10,341
- before he was exposed recently by a
- reporter from the Albany Sun Times.
- 456
- 00:33:10,342 --> 00:33:14,340
- This shit should already be
- over. We need better intel.
- 457
- 00:33:14,341 --> 00:33:15,940
- We've grilled the brother.
- 458
- 00:33:15,941 --> 00:33:17,774
- Have we gotten anything
- out of Sharon Solarz?
- 459
- 00:33:17,775 --> 00:33:19,274
- No, she's refusing to talk.
- 460
- 00:33:19,275 --> 00:33:22,240
- She'll talk to the local reporter.
- She's already said.
- 461
- 00:33:22,241 --> 00:33:24,509
- Well, what do we know about him?
- 462
- 00:33:24,642 --> 00:33:28,003
- He's a nothing reporter. Local.
- 463
- 00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:32,074
- Okay, let's get him in.
- 464
- 00:33:37,308 --> 00:33:39,207
- - Can you try and pull it together?
- - Of course.
- 465
- 00:33:39,208 --> 00:33:41,040
- I'm serious. Cornelius
- is already pissed.
- 466
- 00:33:41,041 --> 00:33:43,252
- Yeah.
- 467
- 00:33:45,108 --> 00:33:46,807
- Hello there.
- 468
- 00:33:46,808 --> 00:33:48,440
- I'm Special Agent Cornelius.
- 469
- 00:33:48,441 --> 00:33:50,940
- - You must be Shepard.
- - Yep.
- 470
- 00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:52,473
- The prisoner is
- considered dangerous.
- 471
- 00:33:52,474 --> 00:33:54,740
- You do not accept
- anything from her,
- 472
- 00:33:54,741 --> 00:33:58,074
- no letters, packages or
- messages of any kind.
- 473
- 00:33:58,075 --> 00:34:00,673
- Your time starts now.
- 474
- 00:34:06,242 --> 00:34:08,241
- Hello.
- 475
- 00:34:08,242 --> 00:34:11,141
- Well, you're much younger
- than I thought you'd be.
- 476
- 00:34:11,142 --> 00:34:13,307
- Well, that's always nice to hear.
- 477
- 00:34:13,308 --> 00:34:16,338
- I didn't mean it as a compliment.
- 478
- 00:34:17,642 --> 00:34:19,311
- Oh.
- 479
- 00:34:20,775 --> 00:34:22,307
- Still, thank you.
- 480
- 00:34:22,308 --> 00:34:25,307
- You did me a favor when
- you wrote that article.
- 481
- 00:34:25,308 --> 00:34:27,007
- I wouldn't mistake it for sympathy.
- 482
- 00:34:27,008 --> 00:34:29,406
- No. Just clarity.
- 483
- 00:34:29,407 --> 00:34:31,312
- Yeah.
- 484
- 00:34:31,808 --> 00:34:33,774
- Clarity. So, let's talk clarity.
- 485
- 00:34:33,775 --> 00:34:35,679
- Okay.
- 486
- 00:34:36,041 --> 00:34:39,040
- You were on your way to
- New York to turn yourself in?
- 487
- 00:34:39,041 --> 00:34:40,439
- How does Billy Cusimano fit in?
- 488
- 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,439
- Billy's my friend, and he did nothing
- but encourage me to turn myself in
- 489
- 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,374
- if I thought that that
- would bring me peace.
- 490
- 00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:48,874
- Mmm.
- 491
- 00:34:48,875 --> 00:34:51,640
- You know his phone was tapped?
- 492
- 00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:54,751
- Yeah. They got lucky.
- 493
- 00:34:58,275 --> 00:35:01,279
- - And you got unlucky?
- - Yeah.
- 494
- 00:35:01,375 --> 00:35:04,167
- Why now, after 30 years?
- 495
- 00:35:04,408 --> 00:35:09,107
- - You don't have kids, do you?
- - No. I... I barely have furniture.
- 496
- 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:14,175
- Well, if you do, you'll realize
- that they change you.
- 497
- 00:35:15,508 --> 00:35:17,640
- - I have two.
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 498
- 00:35:17,641 --> 00:35:19,774
- A boy and a girl,
- 499
- 00:35:19,775 --> 00:35:23,974
- and I waited until I thought
- they were old enough
- 500
- 00:35:23,975 --> 00:35:29,713
- to be able to handle it, but
- still young enough that I can...
- 501
- 00:35:38,108 --> 00:35:41,286
- So, was it a crisis of conscience?
- 502
- 00:35:41,474 --> 00:35:43,345
- Hmm?
- 503
- 00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:46,774
- Remorse for past transgressions
- that became intolerable?
- 504
- 00:35:49,208 --> 00:35:52,534
- The past 30 years in a sentence.
- 505
- 00:35:54,308 --> 00:35:58,204
- Wow, it must be nice to
- see the world so cleanly.
- 506
- 00:35:59,108 --> 00:36:01,581
- Didn't you once?
- 507
- 00:36:04,808 --> 00:36:06,907
- Most of us led very
- sheltered lives.
- 508
- 00:36:06,908 --> 00:36:10,416
- We had no real relationship
- with violence.
- 509
- 00:36:10,575 --> 00:36:16,774
- But at that time, all these
- kids were taking to the streets
- 510
- 00:36:16,775 --> 00:36:22,422
- in, uh, Japan and France,
- China, Angola.
- 511
- 00:36:23,742 --> 00:36:25,907
- There was revolution,
- and I wanted to be part of it.
- 512
- 00:36:25,908 --> 00:36:28,939
- Sure. Sounds groovy.
- 513
- 00:36:30,908 --> 00:36:33,641
- You think we were all just a bunch
- 514
- 00:36:33,642 --> 00:36:36,912
- of doped-up hippies running around.
- 515
- 00:36:38,441 --> 00:36:41,233
- It was hardly groovy.
- 516
- 00:36:41,542 --> 00:36:43,707
- Our government was
- murdering millions,
- 517
- 00:36:43,708 --> 00:36:50,207
- and we could see horrifying
- images on the news, magazines.
- 518
- 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,510
- My Lai, Selma.
- 519
- 00:36:52,775 --> 00:36:55,041
- It made us crazy. We
- didn't know what to do.
- 520
- 00:36:55,042 --> 00:36:58,907
- We... We, uh, protested,
- 521
- 00:36:58,908 --> 00:37:02,473
- we sat in, we got
- our skulls cracked
- 522
- 00:37:02,474 --> 00:37:06,107
- and the war just kept escalating.
- 523
- 00:37:06,108 --> 00:37:10,401
- And then there was Kent
- State and Jackson State.
- 524
- 00:37:10,642 --> 00:37:14,107
- Kids our age were being murdered
- 525
- 00:37:14,108 --> 00:37:18,242
- by our government on campuses.
- 526
- 00:37:18,375 --> 00:37:19,907
- It's not our finest hour.
- 527
- 00:37:19,908 --> 00:37:21,774
- It wasn't abstract.
- 528
- 00:37:21,775 --> 00:37:24,203
- There was a draft.
- 529
- 00:37:24,241 --> 00:37:26,141
- You would have gotten a number,
- 530
- 00:37:26,142 --> 00:37:30,708
- and then, all you
- could do is just wait.
- 531
- 00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:35,074
- And everybody knew somebody
- that was going over,
- 532
- 00:37:35,075 --> 00:37:38,857
- or somebody that was
- not coming back.
- 533
- 00:37:39,742 --> 00:37:41,141
- You never get over that.
- 534
- 00:37:41,142 --> 00:37:43,206
- Apparently not.
- 535
- 00:37:45,041 --> 00:37:47,514
- It sounds to me like justification.
- 536
- 00:37:48,042 --> 00:37:49,940
- I find it hard to believe
- that the only option
- 537
- 00:37:49,941 --> 00:37:51,674
- available to you at the
- time was violence.
- 538
- 00:37:51,675 --> 00:37:55,541
- We thought that sitting at home while
- your government committed genocide
- 539
- 00:37:55,542 --> 00:37:59,074
- and doing nothing about it,
- that that was violence.
- 540
- 00:38:03,975 --> 00:38:06,119
- What about you?
- 541
- 00:38:08,608 --> 00:38:12,287
- What are you willing
- to take a risk for?
- 542
- 00:38:13,575 --> 00:38:16,374
- I don't know. I know that I
- wouldn't blow up a building.
- 543
- 00:38:16,375 --> 00:38:18,874
- I wouldn't kill
- anybody for anything.
- 544
- 00:38:18,875 --> 00:38:23,044
- Yeah, well, dissent can be dicey.
- 545
- 00:38:24,108 --> 00:38:27,673
- You can't get to my age
- without some regrets.
- 546
- 00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:32,574
- Would you do it again?
- 547
- 00:38:35,042 --> 00:38:37,253
- If...
- 548
- 00:38:37,375 --> 00:38:40,167
- I didn't have kids and
- 549
- 00:38:40,608 --> 00:38:43,513
- old parents that I love...
- 550
- 00:38:45,808 --> 00:38:48,953
- Yeah, I would do it again.
- 551
- 00:38:50,474 --> 00:38:54,586
- Smarter, better, different.
- 552
- 00:38:57,375 --> 00:39:00,167
- But I'd do it, yeah.
- 553
- 00:39:01,474 --> 00:39:03,903
- We made mistakes.
- 554
- 00:39:05,075 --> 00:39:07,473
- But we were right.
- 555
- 00:39:07,474 --> 00:39:09,720
- Hmm.
- 556
- 00:39:11,375 --> 00:39:14,041
- And is Nick Sloan right?
- 557
- 00:39:14,042 --> 00:39:17,307
- He has a daughter much younger than
- yours that he abandoned in a hotel room.
- 558
- 00:39:17,308 --> 00:39:19,407
- People do what they have to do.
- 559
- 00:39:19,408 --> 00:39:22,241
- Well, what are you doing
- then, here, with me?
- 560
- 00:39:22,242 --> 00:39:25,341
- I mean, you had a... You had
- a choice in all this, after all.
- 561
- 00:39:25,342 --> 00:39:28,107
- Well, look at me. It doesn't
- matter what I say, unless...
- 562
- 00:39:28,108 --> 00:39:32,401
- I say it to somebody who's
- interested in the truth.
- 563
- 00:39:32,542 --> 00:39:36,870
- And it seems as if you're
- interested in the truth.
- 564
- 00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:39,548
- Most people aren't.
- 565
- 00:39:40,775 --> 00:39:43,566
- What are you gonna do?
- 566
- 00:39:44,075 --> 00:39:46,286
- My job.
- 567
- 00:39:48,608 --> 00:39:51,002
- Good.
- 568
- 00:39:56,108 --> 00:40:00,241
- And what do you
- think Jim... Nick...
- 569
- 00:40:00,242 --> 00:40:03,420
- What do you think he's doing now?
- 570
- 00:40:05,608 --> 00:40:08,641
- Maybe you should figure that out.
- 571
- 00:40:08,642 --> 00:40:10,432
- Hmm.
- 572
- 00:40:12,241 --> 00:40:17,941
- Look, if my coming here in any
- way was responsible for him
- 573
- 00:40:17,942 --> 00:40:22,541
- being found out, well, that was not
- my intention, and he knows that.
- 574
- 00:40:22,542 --> 00:40:27,555
- We never betrayed each other, not
- once, any of us, over all these years.
- 575
- 00:40:30,142 --> 00:40:33,173
- And I'm not about to start now.
- 576
- 00:40:33,942 --> 00:40:36,207
- What about Mimi Lurie?
- 577
- 00:40:36,208 --> 00:40:38,741
- Is she out there living a good,
- clean, productive life?
- 578
- 00:40:38,742 --> 00:40:41,249
- Anything's possible.
- 579
- 00:40:42,075 --> 00:40:44,616
- Mimi and Nick
- 580
- 00:40:45,975 --> 00:40:48,073
- were different.
- 581
- 00:40:48,542 --> 00:40:51,141
- Radicals, yes, but also lovers.
- 582
- 00:40:51,142 --> 00:40:53,274
- Mmm-hmm. Did you...
- 583
- 00:40:53,275 --> 00:40:55,908
- Time's up, sir.
- 584
- 00:41:01,108 --> 00:41:03,809
- Thank you for talking to me.
- 585
- 00:41:04,708 --> 00:41:07,374
- Thank you for listening.
- 586
- 00:41:13,375 --> 00:41:15,620
- Hmm.
- 587
- 00:41:20,474 --> 00:41:23,374
- They did unforgivable things, but you
- gotta appreciate the commitment.
- 588
- 00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:25,641
- No, you don't.
- You appreciate the fact
- 589
- 00:41:25,642 --> 00:41:28,307
- that the bank guard they
- murdered had two small kids.
- 590
- 00:41:28,308 --> 00:41:30,607
- It's just hard to reconcile
- the woman with her past.
- 591
- 00:41:30,608 --> 00:41:32,307
- - Sir.
- - Don't allow yourself to get spun
- 592
- 00:41:32,308 --> 00:41:34,641
- - by these people.
- - I don't get spun.
- 593
- 00:41:34,642 --> 00:41:37,307
- Well, you've been pretty soft
- on her from the very beginning.
- 594
- 00:41:37,308 --> 00:41:39,807
- We're the good guys here,
- but you seem not to care.
- 595
- 00:41:39,808 --> 00:41:43,274
- You write an article that blasts my
- team publicly for doing our jobs well,
- 596
- 00:41:43,275 --> 00:41:45,274
- - and you make her out to be the victim.
- - I didn't blast anybody.
- 597
- 00:41:45,275 --> 00:41:46,640
- She was turning herself in.
- That's what I wrote.
- 598
- 00:41:46,641 --> 00:41:49,774
- No, there was no deal. We had intel,
- we tracked her, we made the arrest.
- 599
- 00:41:49,775 --> 00:41:51,107
- Now where's that article?
- 600
- 00:41:51,108 --> 00:41:54,507
- We took a 30-year fugitive off the
- street and would have gotten her partner
- 601
- 00:41:54,508 --> 00:41:56,741
- if it hadn't been for some
- two-bit journalist interfering.
- 602
- 00:41:56,742 --> 00:42:00,141
- Would you even know who
- he was if it wasn't for me?
- 603
- 00:42:00,142 --> 00:42:03,774
- Well, you do seem awfully
- tied in to these people.
- 604
- 00:42:03,775 --> 00:42:07,907
- Solarz only talks to you, you meet with
- Sloan two days before he disappears,
- 605
- 00:42:07,908 --> 00:42:10,874
- giving him a big head
- start, if not more.
- 606
- 00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:14,741
- Perhaps you're a little more
- interesting than I initially thought.
- 607
- 00:42:14,742 --> 00:42:18,607
- We're bringing these people down,
- and I hope I don't find you in my way.
- 608
- 00:42:18,608 --> 00:42:22,389
- Agent, I need you to
- report to an OPR review.
- 609
- 00:42:24,942 --> 00:42:26,640
- Don't ever ask me
- for anything again.
- 610
- 00:42:26,641 --> 00:42:28,274
- What are you talking about?
- I thought we were bonding.
- 611
- 00:42:28,275 --> 00:42:30,406
- I feel like I just watched
- you get hypnotized in there.
- 612
- 00:42:30,407 --> 00:42:32,473
- "I was just young, female
- and opposing injustice"?
- 613
- 00:42:32,474 --> 00:42:34,307
- That's her justification?
- That was offensive.
- 614
- 00:42:34,308 --> 00:42:36,607
- I'm not arguing that point.
- 615
- 00:42:36,608 --> 00:42:38,907
- Where are you guys on the Sloan
- thing? You think you can find him?
- 616
- 00:42:38,908 --> 00:42:42,274
- I think he knows how to run,
- which means he has an advantage.
- 617
- 00:42:42,275 --> 00:42:46,602
- Terrorists justify terrorism, Ben.
- Don't get confused here.
- 618
- 00:42:49,407 --> 00:42:51,676
- Mmm.
- 619
- 00:42:56,942 --> 00:42:59,241
- Welcome to Milwaukee...
- 620
- 00:43:18,642 --> 00:43:20,941
- Excuse me, ma'am.
- 621
- 00:43:20,942 --> 00:43:24,041
- Pardon me. Excuse me.
- 622
- 00:43:24,042 --> 00:43:25,907
- Excuse me.
- 623
- 00:43:25,908 --> 00:43:27,407
- Thank you.
- 624
- 00:43:27,408 --> 00:43:31,042
- Don't tell me you have to go
- when you don't have to go.
- 625
- 00:43:39,275 --> 00:43:41,942
- Hey, hands off, bro!
- 626
- 00:44:08,308 --> 00:44:09,374
- Hello?
- 627
- 00:44:09,375 --> 00:44:12,074
- This is Ben Shepard,
- Albany Sun Times.
- 628
- 00:44:12,075 --> 00:44:13,641
- Yes?
- 629
- 00:44:13,642 --> 00:44:18,374
- Dr. Sloan, I've spoken directly to your
- brother, I've spoken to Sharon Solarz.
- 630
- 00:44:18,375 --> 00:44:20,174
- - Yes?
- - I have something to tell you, sir.
- 631
- 00:44:20,175 --> 00:44:21,574
- It's important that we speak.
- 632
- 00:44:21,575 --> 00:44:23,241
- Go ahead. Be quick.
- 633
- 00:44:23,242 --> 00:44:25,140
- Two minutes, but not
- over the phone.
- 634
- 00:44:25,141 --> 00:44:28,547
- I don't trust phones. Yours
- or mine, for that matter.
- 635
- 00:44:28,575 --> 00:44:30,374
- You get here before ten.
- 636
- 00:44:30,375 --> 00:44:34,055
- Perfect. Thank you, sir.
- 637
- 00:44:35,407 --> 00:44:38,574
- Yes, we are currently outside
- the home of Dr. Daniel Sloan,
- 638
- 00:44:38,575 --> 00:44:40,440
- brother of fugitive Nick Sloan.
- 639
- 00:44:40,441 --> 00:44:43,107
- We have no new information
- to report at this time,
- 640
- 00:44:43,108 --> 00:44:44,741
- but we are continuing to
- monitor the situation...
- 641
- 00:44:44,742 --> 00:44:46,241
- - Ben Shepard.
- - Yeah?
- 642
- 00:44:46,242 --> 00:44:47,741
- - Albany Sun Times.
- - Yeah.
- 643
- 00:44:47,742 --> 00:44:49,407
- Maulik Bhanjali, Reuters.
- 644
- 00:44:49,408 --> 00:44:52,774
- - Hey, what's going on?
- - No interviews.
- 645
- 00:44:52,775 --> 00:44:55,373
- - No interviews?
- - Yeah.
- 646
- 00:44:56,908 --> 00:44:59,473
- Hi. Uh, Ben Shepard,
- Albany Sun Times.
- 647
- 00:44:59,474 --> 00:45:01,107
- Dr. Sloan's expecting to see me.
- 648
- 00:45:01,108 --> 00:45:03,307
- Yes, he is, sir.
- You can go right up.
- 649
- 00:45:03,308 --> 00:45:05,485
- Thank you.
- 650
- 00:45:12,208 --> 00:45:14,241
- Dr. Sloan? Ben Shepard.
- I'm sorry I'm late.
- 651
- 00:45:14,242 --> 00:45:15,674
- Ah, yes. Yeah.
- 652
- 00:45:15,675 --> 00:45:17,579
- Thank you.
- 653
- 00:45:20,275 --> 00:45:22,577
- Beautiful.
- 654
- 00:45:23,542 --> 00:45:26,903
- So, tell me what
- you need to tell me.
- 655
- 00:45:27,042 --> 00:45:30,334
- Wh... Okay, um...
- 656
- 00:45:31,441 --> 00:45:34,807
- Well, your brother obviously
- counted on you a great deal.
- 657
- 00:45:34,808 --> 00:45:36,241
- Were you two close, growing up?
- 658
- 00:45:36,242 --> 00:45:40,041
- He was my older brother.
- I looked up to him.
- 659
- 00:45:40,042 --> 00:45:44,006
- I was a kid. I didn't
- understand what he was doing.
- 660
- 00:45:45,141 --> 00:45:47,874
- You said you had
- something to tell me.
- 661
- 00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:50,074
- I'm just trying to figure out
- why you're helping him.
- 662
- 00:45:50,075 --> 00:45:52,641
- Well, I'm helping my niece.
- She's innocent in all of this.
- 663
- 00:45:52,642 --> 00:45:55,752
- Mmm-hmm. And your brother?
- 664
- 00:45:56,142 --> 00:45:58,641
- They blew up buildings.
- It's been well documented.
- 665
- 00:45:58,642 --> 00:46:02,083
- - Do you approve of that?
- - Of course not.
- 666
- 00:46:02,242 --> 00:46:04,274
- Now, if you have
- nothing more to ask...
- 667
- 00:46:04,275 --> 00:46:06,707
- Do you think he's coming
- back for his daughter?
- 668
- 00:46:06,708 --> 00:46:08,741
- - Is that what he's doing?
- - Excuse me?
- 669
- 00:46:08,742 --> 00:46:10,941
- I'm trying to understand his
- thinking process. I mean...
- 670
- 00:46:10,942 --> 00:46:12,974
- Why not take his daughter with him?
- 671
- 00:46:12,975 --> 00:46:14,574
- You know, why not change
- his name, disappear?
- 672
- 00:46:14,575 --> 00:46:16,241
- He obviously knows how to do that.
- 673
- 00:46:16,242 --> 00:46:18,473
- You said you had
- something to tell me.
- 674
- 00:46:18,474 --> 00:46:22,440
- Obviously that's not the case,
- so I think we're done here.
- 675
- 00:46:22,441 --> 00:46:25,404
- We didn't ask for this.
- 676
- 00:46:25,441 --> 00:46:27,541
- I don't condone what he did,
- 677
- 00:46:27,542 --> 00:46:30,641
- and I certainly don't appreciate you
- manipulating your way into my house.
- 678
- 00:46:30,642 --> 00:46:31,707
- You need to leave.
- 679
- 00:46:31,708 --> 00:46:33,641
- Are you enrolling her in school?
- 680
- 00:46:34,708 --> 00:46:35,774
- 'Cause I'll tell you,
- 681
- 00:46:35,775 --> 00:46:38,641
- this situation doesn't look like
- a permanent situation to me,
- 682
- 00:46:38,642 --> 00:46:41,388
- and I'm guessing not to you either.
- 683
- 00:46:41,542 --> 00:46:43,936
- What is he doing?
- 684
- 00:46:44,375 --> 00:46:48,473
- - Buying himself time for something.
- - I don't know. For what?
- 685
- 00:46:49,375 --> 00:46:52,122
- I don't know. I'm asking you.
- 686
- 00:46:52,242 --> 00:46:58,010
- Your brother's nothing if he's not
- logical, and right now nothing he's doing
- 687
- 00:46:58,908 --> 00:47:02,234
- makes any sense if he's guilty.
- 688
- 00:47:41,642 --> 00:47:44,002
- Help yourself.
- 689
- 00:47:50,308 --> 00:47:53,144
- You know, you should...
- 690
- 00:47:54,875 --> 00:47:57,178
- Holy shit.
- 691
- 00:48:00,208 --> 00:48:03,534
- It's right over here. Lumberyard.
- 692
- 00:48:09,541 --> 00:48:11,707
- Don't worry, nobody's watching.
- 693
- 00:48:11,708 --> 00:48:14,707
- They're on Daniel. They'll
- get to you soon enough.
- 694
- 00:48:14,708 --> 00:48:18,945
- Yeah, well, anyone works
- for me is an ex-con anyway.
- 695
- 00:48:19,808 --> 00:48:21,807
- Boy, this is some
- operation you got here.
- 696
- 00:48:21,808 --> 00:48:27,671
- Yeah, yeah. You got redwood,
- you got pine, cedar, too.
- 697
- 00:48:27,875 --> 00:48:30,641
- Western red cedar.
- You can smell it.
- 698
- 00:48:30,642 --> 00:48:32,907
- It's environmentally certified.
- 699
- 00:48:32,908 --> 00:48:35,341
- Yeah, I can see you're still into
- herbal teas and soy products.
- 700
- 00:48:35,342 --> 00:48:37,406
- Yeah, well, you know.
- 701
- 00:48:37,407 --> 00:48:41,140
- I quit drinking and smoking,
- and I gained weight and I...
- 702
- 00:48:41,141 --> 00:48:43,707
- Shit, man, why am
- I telling you this?
- 703
- 00:48:43,708 --> 00:48:48,431
- I don't belong to the Collective
- anymore. I don't answer to you.
- 704
- 00:48:48,742 --> 00:48:53,571
- I need a place to stay tonight, and a
- couple of questions answered, Donal.
- 705
- 00:48:57,542 --> 00:49:00,470
- Okay, you can crash at my place.
- 706
- 00:49:03,042 --> 00:49:05,880
- Hey, it's this, this truck.
- 707
- 00:49:10,042 --> 00:49:12,807
- That guy looks a little bit
- like Rick. Remember him?
- 708
- 00:49:12,808 --> 00:49:14,641
- The roadie from Monterey?
- 709
- 00:49:14,642 --> 00:49:18,174
- That is Rick,
- the roadie from Monterey.
- 710
- 00:49:19,441 --> 00:49:21,874
- Jesus, I thought he died.
- 711
- 00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:25,007
- We all died. Some of us came back.
- 712
- 00:49:33,742 --> 00:49:36,274
- - Keep in touch with anybody else?
- - A few.
- 713
- 00:49:36,275 --> 00:49:40,174
- Steve and Penny, Carol there
- in New York and, uh...
- 714
- 00:49:40,175 --> 00:49:41,440
- Who else? Let's see.
- 715
- 00:49:41,441 --> 00:49:42,841
- Oh, I go visit Noah, you know?
- 716
- 00:49:42,842 --> 00:49:43,941
- Oh, yeah?
- 717
- 00:49:43,942 --> 00:49:45,807
- Yeah, he's in Lompoc, you know.
- 718
- 00:49:45,808 --> 00:49:47,941
- I see him a couple of times a year.
- 719
- 00:49:47,942 --> 00:49:51,940
- And, uh, Little Sweeney
- and Laura, Horse...
- 720
- 00:49:51,941 --> 00:49:54,573
- Do you know where she is, Donal?
- 721
- 00:49:55,642 --> 00:49:56,974
- No, man. I don't.
- 722
- 00:49:56,975 --> 00:49:59,207
- After the bank, Sharon
- came to you for help.
- 723
- 00:49:59,208 --> 00:50:00,707
- Really? How do you know that?
- 724
- 00:50:00,708 --> 00:50:04,940
- Because of the name she lived under
- before she married her current husband.
- 725
- 00:50:04,941 --> 00:50:08,307
- It was in the papers when
- she was arrested. Coyle.
- 726
- 00:50:08,308 --> 00:50:11,089
- That was you when you
- went under in '72.
- 727
- 00:50:12,042 --> 00:50:14,941
- I figured you got married and
- gave her a new identity...
- 728
- 00:50:16,041 --> 00:50:18,440
- ...and then she went somewhere else,
- and then after a couple of years,
- 729
- 00:50:18,441 --> 00:50:19,974
- you gave an uncontested divorce
- 730
- 00:50:19,975 --> 00:50:25,107
- and left her with the name.
- Right? Am I right?
- 731
- 00:50:25,108 --> 00:50:26,641
- Did Mimi come to you, too?
- 732
- 00:50:26,642 --> 00:50:30,207
- Well now, why would Mimi
- come to me? You know...
- 733
- 00:50:30,208 --> 00:50:34,574
- Shit, man, this is a real
- shit-kicker of a question to...
- 734
- 00:50:34,575 --> 00:50:38,941
- I mean, to show up and ask me
- to trust you with information
- 735
- 00:50:38,942 --> 00:50:41,707
- that makes me an
- accessory to murder.
- 736
- 00:50:41,708 --> 00:50:46,641
- Neither of them had any fucking right
- to ask me a thing, and neither do you.
- 737
- 00:50:46,642 --> 00:50:49,641
- I mean, I wasn't with
- you guys for the B of M.
- 738
- 00:50:49,642 --> 00:50:51,406
- I wasn't even on a damn committee.
- 739
- 00:50:51,407 --> 00:50:53,507
- I was the fuck out of it,
- and you know that.
- 740
- 00:50:53,508 --> 00:50:54,907
- - Did she come to you or not?
- - All right.
- 741
- 00:50:54,908 --> 00:50:56,774
- - Just tell me, for Christ's sake.
- - All right.
- 742
- 00:50:56,775 --> 00:50:58,341
- You know better than anyone.
- 743
- 00:50:58,342 --> 00:51:03,207
- Mimi was not going to be some
- kind of suburban housewife,
- 744
- 00:51:03,208 --> 00:51:06,238
- drive a minivan and go to the PTA.
- 745
- 00:51:06,242 --> 00:51:08,841
- She was going to live or
- die a freedom fighter.
- 746
- 00:51:08,842 --> 00:51:11,241
- She was married to the movement.
- 747
- 00:51:11,242 --> 00:51:16,343
- The last I heard about her,
- she was on her way to Cuba.
- 748
- 00:51:22,708 --> 00:51:26,541
- Ten houses down, the one
- with the green windows,
- 749
- 00:51:26,542 --> 00:51:30,142
- but go around to the
- side to the kitchen.
- 750
- 00:51:34,042 --> 00:51:36,435
- Now what about you?
- 751
- 00:51:36,942 --> 00:51:40,723
- Why didn't you come to
- me for help back then?
- 752
- 00:51:40,908 --> 00:51:44,074
- - I didn't want to go too far.
- - Too far?
- 753
- 00:51:44,075 --> 00:51:46,741
- Wow, you stayed?
- 754
- 00:51:46,742 --> 00:51:50,174
- Yeah, for a while. I thought
- she might come back.
- 755
- 00:51:50,175 --> 00:51:53,207
- Who? Lurie?
- 756
- 00:51:53,208 --> 00:51:57,107
- Come back? Aw, come on.
- Get real, man.
- 757
- 00:51:57,108 --> 00:52:00,407
- Mimi Lurie is nothing but
- a dream you once had.
- 758
- 00:52:30,508 --> 00:52:32,207
- Afternoon, ma'am.
- 759
- 00:52:32,208 --> 00:52:34,440
- Are you aware you're
- inside the shipping lane?
- 760
- 00:52:34,441 --> 00:52:36,141
- Oh, so sorry, Captain.
- 761
- 00:52:36,142 --> 00:52:38,307
- We're practicing for
- the Catalina Cup,
- 762
- 00:52:38,308 --> 00:52:40,641
- but we're too fast to
- get in anyone's way.
- 763
- 00:52:40,642 --> 00:52:42,907
- Roger that. Just stay east of 122.
- 764
- 00:52:42,908 --> 00:52:45,244
- Aye, aye. Captain!
- 765
- 00:53:05,542 --> 00:53:08,618
- You good? Got it?
- 766
- 00:53:25,875 --> 00:53:28,178
- Hi, Terri.
- 767
- 00:53:30,474 --> 00:53:33,312
- Thank God for government bonds.
- 768
- 00:53:33,375 --> 00:53:37,577
- My accountant used to laugh
- at me for being risk-averse.
- 769
- 00:53:38,308 --> 00:53:41,407
- Oh, don't give me that
- "capitalist dog" look.
- 770
- 00:53:41,408 --> 00:53:43,440
- Going legit has its advantages.
- 771
- 00:53:43,441 --> 00:53:48,041
- Sure, as long as bankrupting
- people's pension funds remains legit
- 772
- 00:53:48,042 --> 00:53:52,483
- and running good, honest
- weed remains criminal.
- 773
- 00:53:55,375 --> 00:53:57,643
- You're gonna want to look at that.
- 774
- 00:53:58,108 --> 00:54:00,615
- I saved it for you.
- 775
- 00:54:01,541 --> 00:54:03,374
- Sharon Solarz.
- 776
- 00:54:03,375 --> 00:54:06,674
- A housewife in Vermont.
- You believe it?
- 777
- 00:54:06,675 --> 00:54:07,974
- Shit.
- 778
- 00:54:07,975 --> 00:54:09,874
- And Billy Cusimano.
- 779
- 00:54:09,875 --> 00:54:12,945
- - Who?
- - From the Brotherhood.
- 780
- 00:54:13,575 --> 00:54:17,016
- Nice to know old Billy's
- keeping the flame alive.
- 781
- 00:54:19,075 --> 00:54:22,971
- And Nick Sloan,
- a lawyer from Albany.
- 782
- 00:54:23,042 --> 00:54:26,341
- Christ. How'd he manage
- to pull that one off?
- 783
- 00:54:26,342 --> 00:54:28,701
- That's what he always wanted.
- 784
- 00:54:29,975 --> 00:54:33,120
- As I recall, you two
- were pretty tight.
- 785
- 00:54:33,875 --> 00:54:36,141
- I don't know. It was
- a long time ago.
- 786
- 00:54:36,142 --> 00:54:41,700
- So, why do you think she decided to
- turn herself in after all these years?
- 787
- 00:54:42,108 --> 00:54:44,581
- I don't know, Mac.
- 788
- 00:54:46,341 --> 00:54:49,571
- - I guess she got tired.
- - Yeah.
- 789
- 00:54:49,908 --> 00:54:52,335
- Times change, babe.
- 790
- 00:54:54,008 --> 00:54:56,344
- Types maybe.
- 791
- 00:54:57,142 --> 00:54:59,407
- Mr. McGowan, this is Ben
- Shepard calling again
- 792
- 00:54:59,408 --> 00:55:02,174
- from the Albany Sun
- Times newspaper.
- 793
- 00:55:02,175 --> 00:55:05,007
- Uh, as I said, this is regarding
- the research that we're doing
- 794
- 00:55:05,008 --> 00:55:08,641
- on the Bank of Michigan robbery,
- and I would appreciate a call back.
- 795
- 00:55:08,642 --> 00:55:12,902
- My number is 518-555-1218.
- 796
- 00:55:28,242 --> 00:55:29,989
- Hello?
- 797
- 00:55:53,508 --> 00:55:56,473
- Oh, f... You're not gonna believe
- what just happened to me.
- 798
- 00:55:56,474 --> 00:55:58,941
- - The FBI was in my apartment.
- - I don't need this right now.
- 799
- 00:55:58,942 --> 00:56:00,374
- Look, search warrant.
- No probable cause.
- 800
- 00:56:00,375 --> 00:56:01,774
- - That's a story, right?
- - It's not a story.
- 801
- 00:56:01,775 --> 00:56:03,774
- They're pissed because I'm doing
- their job better than they are.
- 802
- 00:56:03,775 --> 00:56:05,874
- - Well, you know how to make friends.
- - It's not about making friends.
- 803
- 00:56:05,875 --> 00:56:09,041
- It's about making history.
- We're talking about history now.
- 804
- 00:56:10,351 --> 00:56:12,974
- I got your request.
- 805
- 00:56:12,975 --> 00:56:14,507
- I can't send you to Michigan.
- 806
- 00:56:14,508 --> 00:56:16,741
- You have to send me to Michigan.
- She's being indicted in Michigan.
- 807
- 00:56:16,742 --> 00:56:18,574
- - We'll get it from the wires.
- - No, wires are shit.
- 808
- 00:56:18,575 --> 00:56:20,707
- This is big. I'm putting us on the map.
- People know my name, Ray.
- 809
- 00:56:20,708 --> 00:56:22,574
- - You have to send me out there.
- - Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey.
- 810
- 00:56:22,575 --> 00:56:24,374
- Have some fucking awareness, okay?
- 811
- 00:56:24,375 --> 00:56:27,507
- This isn't all about you. I just
- laid off my sports department.
- 812
- 00:56:27,508 --> 00:56:30,840
- Well, who gives a shit about Albany High
- girls' soccer? What are we talking about?
- 813
- 00:56:30,841 --> 00:56:31,940
- - Don't be an asshole.
- - I'm not being an asshole.
- 814
- 00:56:31,941 --> 00:56:34,473
- Why are you acting like
- we're not killing it right now?
- 815
- 00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:35,807
- I'm on the fucking 10-yard line.
- 816
- 00:56:35,808 --> 00:56:39,007
- I'm on the 10-yard line.
- You're stopping me right now.
- 817
- 00:56:39,008 --> 00:56:40,307
- - That's a bad article.
- - It's a bad ar...
- 818
- 00:56:40,308 --> 00:56:42,074
- It's an exclusive with
- the guy's brother.
- 819
- 00:56:42,075 --> 00:56:43,317
- - It's a bad article.
- - You took a shot at him.
- 820
- 00:56:43,318 --> 00:56:45,140
- - You made it personal.
- - He's a schmuck, Ray.
- 821
- 00:56:45,141 --> 00:56:48,586
- I don't fucking care what he is.
- 822
- 00:56:48,708 --> 00:56:51,374
- That's not what we do,
- and this is not the first time!
- 823
- 00:56:51,375 --> 00:56:52,674
- You don't just destroy someone
- 824
- 00:56:52,675 --> 00:56:54,473
- - to see if you can uncover something!
- - You're a fucking idiot.
- 825
- 00:56:54,474 --> 00:56:56,807
- That's a shitty way to
- go about things! Got it?
- 826
- 00:56:56,808 --> 00:56:58,874
- The fact that we're even having
- this conversation is ridiculous.
- 827
- 00:56:58,875 --> 00:56:59,974
- - Well, we're having it.
- - I gave you an exclusive
- 828
- 00:56:59,975 --> 00:57:01,741
- with Sharon Solarz,
- with the guy's brother.
- 829
- 00:57:01,742 --> 00:57:04,007
- Nick Sloan would still be defending
- spotted owls if it wasn't for me.
- 830
- 00:57:04,008 --> 00:57:05,807
- Nobody can do what I am doing, Ray.
- 831
- 00:57:05,808 --> 00:57:08,607
- - Allen Springer returning.
- - I gotta call him back.
- 832
- 00:57:08,608 --> 00:57:11,374
- I'm in this in a big way.
- I need support now, Ray.
- 833
- 00:57:11,375 --> 00:57:12,974
- I need you to support me.
- 834
- 00:57:12,975 --> 00:57:15,579
- And you need to stop provoking
- people, especially the FBI.
- 835
- 00:57:15,580 --> 00:57:16,836
- - I...
- - Okay?
- 836
- 00:57:16,837 --> 00:57:18,536
- Okay.
- 837
- 00:57:20,975 --> 00:57:23,448
- I got bosses, too, you know.
- 838
- 00:57:31,542 --> 00:57:33,041
- So, what are you thinking?
- 839
- 00:57:33,042 --> 00:57:34,640
- You know, I'm still wrapping
- my head around it.
- 840
- 00:57:34,641 --> 00:57:38,475
- These people are... They're all nuts,
- but none of them are illogical.
- 841
- 00:57:38,908 --> 00:57:41,874
- You know, if this man is trying to
- escape, if he was trying to disappear,
- 842
- 00:57:41,875 --> 00:57:43,341
- he'd have taken his
- daughter with him.
- 843
- 00:57:43,342 --> 00:57:46,341
- - Maybe.
- - But he didn't.
- 844
- 00:57:46,342 --> 00:57:49,507
- Instead, he conducts a very risky
- and complicated series of switches,
- 845
- 00:57:49,508 --> 00:57:53,645
- gets his daughter into safekeeping,
- gets to New York by himself, alone,
- 846
- 00:57:53,942 --> 00:57:55,974
- which changes everything, right?
- I mean, if the guy is innocent
- 847
- 00:57:55,975 --> 00:57:59,840
- and he's running because he's innocent,
- why doesn't Sharon just clear him?
- 848
- 00:57:59,841 --> 00:58:01,473
- Because she's in custody,
- and she was his partner
- 849
- 00:58:01,474 --> 00:58:03,141
- and that doesn't hold up in court.
- 850
- 00:58:03,142 --> 00:58:06,174
- Yeah, but why hide for 30
- years if you're innocent?
- 851
- 00:58:06,175 --> 00:58:07,907
- Innocence only gets you so far.
- 852
- 00:58:07,908 --> 00:58:10,007
- Michigan number.
- It's where it all started.
- 853
- 00:58:10,008 --> 00:58:11,307
- But you're not going to Michigan.
- 854
- 00:58:11,308 --> 00:58:16,375
- Ben Shepard. Miss McGowan,
- thank you for calling me...
- 855
- 00:58:19,342 --> 00:58:21,314
- He is.
- 856
- 00:58:21,675 --> 00:58:26,707
- I'm sorry for your loss.
- Okay. Bye-bye.
- 857
- 00:58:26,708 --> 00:58:29,011
- Fuck.
- 858
- 00:59:19,474 --> 00:59:20,541
- Donal?
- 859
- 00:59:20,542 --> 00:59:22,514
- Donal!
- 860
- 00:59:43,242 --> 00:59:48,673
- Hey, hey! Hey! What
- are you doing, man?
- 861
- 00:59:50,441 --> 00:59:51,641
- What are you doing?
- 862
- 00:59:51,642 --> 00:59:53,979
- I went to get you a car.
- 863
- 00:59:54,942 --> 00:59:56,774
- Oh, shit.
- 864
- 00:59:57,175 --> 01:00:01,048
- Oh, what, you thought
- I ran out on you?
- 865
- 01:00:01,608 --> 01:00:03,406
- I thought...
- 866
- 01:00:03,407 --> 01:00:06,241
- ...maybe you realized what
- a risk you were taking for...
- 867
- 01:00:06,242 --> 01:00:08,141
- For a guy you hardly know.
- 868
- 01:00:08,142 --> 01:00:12,007
- Hey, do you remember,
- we used to be best of friends?
- 869
- 01:00:12,008 --> 01:00:14,038
- You remember that?
- 870
- 01:00:17,641 --> 01:00:19,670
- Yeah.
- 871
- 01:00:19,775 --> 01:00:21,541
- Here's the key. It's clean.
- 872
- 01:00:21,542 --> 01:00:24,470
- It'll get you out of town at least.
- 873
- 01:00:30,608 --> 01:00:33,307
- Call the cops in the morning.
- 874
- 01:00:33,308 --> 01:00:35,874
- Tell them I came to see you,
- asking for help, and you refused
- 875
- 01:00:35,875 --> 01:00:39,074
- because you're an upstanding,
- law-abiding citizen.
- 876
- 01:00:40,155 --> 01:00:42,207
- Oh, jeez.
- 877
- 01:00:42,208 --> 01:00:44,841
- All right, now listen to me.
- 878
- 01:00:44,842 --> 01:00:50,149
- Mimi did come to me. I put
- her in touch with Jed Lewis.
- 879
- 01:00:50,242 --> 01:00:54,807
- He made some introductions,
- political friends in Havana.
- 880
- 01:00:54,808 --> 01:00:55,941
- - Jed Lewis?
- - Yeah.
- 881
- 01:00:55,942 --> 01:00:57,641
- I thought Jed was above ground.
- How could he pull...
- 882
- 01:00:57,642 --> 01:01:02,618
- No, no, no, no. He's got
- the list, so he can find her.
- 883
- 01:01:03,642 --> 01:01:06,570
- All right, fucking run, man.
- 884
- 01:01:08,908 --> 01:01:10,473
- Call you back.
- 885
- 01:01:26,142 --> 01:01:27,574
- A security guard is dead
- 886
- 01:01:27,575 --> 01:01:30,874
- after a robbery turned
- violent at Briarwood Mall.
- 887
- 01:01:30,875 --> 01:01:32,607
- At five minutes after 8:00 a.m.
- 888
- 01:01:32,608 --> 01:01:34,374
- a man and a woman,
- masked and armed,
- 889
- 01:01:34,375 --> 01:01:37,640
- entered the local branch
- of the Bank of Michigan.
- 890
- 01:01:37,641 --> 01:01:40,307
- An exchange of gunfire
- occurred between the suspects,
- 891
- 01:01:40,308 --> 01:01:43,674
- and bank security guard Hugh Krosney,
- pronounced dead at the scene.
- 892
- 01:01:43,675 --> 01:01:46,507
- According to investigating
- officer Henry Osborne,
- 893
- 01:01:46,508 --> 01:01:48,588
- the investigation is considered
- active and ongoing...
- 894
- 01:01:54,474 --> 01:01:56,618
- "Osborne."
- 895
- 01:01:57,474 --> 01:01:58,641
- Hello?
- 896
- 01:01:58,642 --> 01:01:59,807
- Hi, my name is Ben Shepard.
- 897
- 01:01:59,808 --> 01:02:03,541
- I'm calling from the Albany Sun
- Times newspaper, Albany, New York.
- 898
- 01:02:03,542 --> 01:02:05,970
- I should hope so.
- 899
- 01:02:07,474 --> 01:02:09,406
- I've left a couple messages.
- 900
- 01:02:09,407 --> 01:02:11,540
- I'm trying to locate
- Police Chief Henry Osborne.
- 901
- 01:02:11,541 --> 01:02:12,674
- Former Police Chief.
- 902
- 01:02:12,675 --> 01:02:14,473
- Yeah, well, I just wanted to
- ask him a couple of questions
- 903
- 01:02:14,474 --> 01:02:16,541
- regarding the recent
- Sharon Solarz arrest.
- 904
- 01:02:16,542 --> 01:02:17,874
- He is still...
- 905
- 01:02:17,875 --> 01:02:19,848
- Alive?
- 906
- 01:02:20,008 --> 01:02:21,107
- Well, yeah.
- 907
- 01:02:21,108 --> 01:02:24,983
- Well, he'd better be, or I'm on my
- way to the yacht club to see a ghost.
- 908
- 01:02:25,108 --> 01:02:26,574
- Um...
- 909
- 01:02:27,175 --> 01:02:31,174
- Um, see, I'm here in Detroit doing some
- research, and from my understanding,
- 910
- 01:02:31,175 --> 01:02:33,841
- his department was pretty involved in
- the Bank of Michigan investigation.
- 911
- 01:02:33,842 --> 01:02:35,941
- I just wanted to ask him a
- couple of questions about that.
- 912
- 01:02:35,942 --> 01:02:37,440
- He's not here right now.
- 913
- 01:02:37,441 --> 01:02:41,707
- - Oh, I'm just doing a little background.
- - But he's still not here.
- 914
- 01:02:41,708 --> 01:02:43,174
- Well, how about this?
- Can I give you my number,
- 915
- 01:02:43,175 --> 01:02:44,774
- and then maybe you
- can pass it to him?
- 916
- 01:02:44,775 --> 01:02:47,007
- I'd really appreciate it.
- I'm quite harmless.
- 917
- 01:02:47,008 --> 01:02:47,874
- Really?
- 918
- 01:02:47,875 --> 01:02:53,174
- Uh... The number's 518-555-1218.
- 919
- 01:02:53,175 --> 01:02:55,741
- That's my office, and I'm
- calling you from my cell.
- 920
- 01:02:55,742 --> 01:02:58,341
- - Thanks for your time.
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 921
- 01:02:58,342 --> 01:03:01,841
- The manhunt for Nicholas Sloan
- continues at this time in Milwaukee,
- 922
- 01:03:01,842 --> 01:03:04,507
- where former Weather Underground
- member Donal Fitzgerald
- 923
- 01:03:04,508 --> 01:03:06,473
- was taken into custody today.
- 924
- 01:03:06,474 --> 01:03:08,541
- Federal authorities
- suspect Mr. Fitzgerald
- 925
- 01:03:08,542 --> 01:03:10,841
- of aiding and abetting
- Nicholas Sloan,
- 926
- 01:03:10,842 --> 01:03:13,941
- who continues to elude federal
- investigators. Sloan's identity...
- 927
- 01:03:13,942 --> 01:03:16,174
- Nick went to Donal.
- 928
- 01:03:16,175 --> 01:03:17,974
- He's trying to find me.
- 929
- 01:03:17,975 --> 01:03:20,972
- You're safe here. You can lie low.
- 930
- 01:03:23,241 --> 01:03:25,988
- You know, I counted last night.
- 931
- 01:03:26,142 --> 01:03:29,502
- I've walked out on six lives.
- 932
- 01:03:30,075 --> 01:03:35,871
- Six sets of friends, six
- lovers, six homes, six names.
- 933
- 01:03:36,275 --> 01:03:38,174
- Not including my own.
- 934
- 01:03:38,175 --> 01:03:41,307
- - So, you're moving on again?
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 935
- 01:03:41,308 --> 01:03:44,838
- - You want to take the boat?
- - Mmm-mmm.
- 936
- 01:03:45,042 --> 01:03:48,598
- - No, I'm going inland.
- - Well...
- 937
- 01:03:48,675 --> 01:03:52,786
- - The door's always open.
- - Thanks, Mac.
- 938
- 01:03:57,742 --> 01:04:00,041
- You submit one goddamn
- receipt from this trip,
- 939
- 01:04:00,042 --> 01:04:01,640
- you're fired on the spot. Got it?
- 940
- 01:04:01,641 --> 01:04:03,207
- Yeah, right, like you
- haven't said that before.
- 941
- 01:04:03,208 --> 01:04:06,740
- Don't fuck with me, Ben.
- I'm not in the mood.
- 942
- 01:04:06,741 --> 01:04:10,607
- - So, are you in Milwaukee?
- - No, I'm in Michigan.
- 943
- 01:04:10,608 --> 01:04:14,174
- - Your guy was spotted in Milwaukee.
- - I know that. I saw it on the news.
- 944
- 01:04:14,175 --> 01:04:15,974
- And here I thought
- we were the news.
- 945
- 01:04:15,975 --> 01:04:18,507
- Look, I'm working on it, Ray,
- all right? I'm busting my ass.
- 946
- 01:04:18,508 --> 01:04:21,374
- Good. You got 24 hours to get me
- something and you can keep your job.
- 947
- 01:04:21,375 --> 01:04:23,007
- No shit? My job that doesn't pay?
- 948
- 01:04:23,008 --> 01:04:24,674
- Yeah, that one, and
- you're lucky to have it.
- 949
- 01:04:24,675 --> 01:04:25,740
- Okay.
- 950
- 01:04:28,908 --> 01:04:31,041
- You liked that one, did you?
- 951
- 01:04:31,042 --> 01:04:34,047
- - Well, not...
- - Mr. Osborne?
- 952
- 01:04:34,875 --> 01:04:37,872
- Ben Shepard, Albany Sun Times.
- 953
- 01:04:39,808 --> 01:04:42,207
- You're a long way from
- Albany, Mr. Shepard.
- 954
- 01:04:42,208 --> 01:04:44,841
- Yeah, well, phones don't
- work so well out there.
- 955
- 01:04:44,842 --> 01:04:46,640
- You're a hard man to pin down.
- 956
- 01:04:46,641 --> 01:04:48,507
- Apparently not.
- 957
- 01:04:48,508 --> 01:04:51,340
- Do you mind? There are proper channels.
- I'm with my friends and family here.
- 958
- 01:04:51,341 --> 01:04:56,418
- I'm sorry, I know it's an intrusion.
- I just didn't want to disturb you at home.
- 959
- 01:04:57,175 --> 01:04:58,274
- What?
- 960
- 01:04:58,275 --> 01:05:00,543
- Can I speak to you, please, sir?
- 961
- 01:05:02,375 --> 01:05:04,951
- - Excuse me.
- - Thank you.
- 962
- 01:05:10,175 --> 01:05:12,807
- Now, what is it you're here for?
- 963
- 01:05:12,808 --> 01:05:15,207
- Well, sir, I was just hoping I could
- ask you a couple of questions
- 964
- 01:05:15,208 --> 01:05:17,841
- regarding the Bank of
- Michigan investigation.
- 965
- 01:05:17,842 --> 01:05:19,307
- That was a long time ago.
- 966
- 01:05:19,308 --> 01:05:21,207
- But you watch the news. I'm
- sure you're aware Sharon Solarz
- 967
- 01:05:21,208 --> 01:05:23,741
- has been brought back to
- Michigan to stand trial,
- 968
- 01:05:23,742 --> 01:05:25,707
- Nick Sloan has been
- identified and is on the run.
- 969
- 01:05:25,708 --> 01:05:27,274
- I am aware.
- 970
- 01:05:27,275 --> 01:05:31,279
- How involved was your department with
- the Bank of Michigan investigation?
- 971
- 01:05:31,508 --> 01:05:33,874
- This is all in the public record.
- 972
- 01:05:33,875 --> 01:05:36,041
- What about before that?
- 973
- 01:05:36,042 --> 01:05:38,007
- My understanding is you
- covered the campus
- 974
- 01:05:38,008 --> 01:05:39,607
- - when they were pretty active, right?
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 975
- 01:05:39,608 --> 01:05:41,774
- Did you ever come in contact
- with Mimi Lurie or Nick Sloan
- 976
- 01:05:41,775 --> 01:05:44,074
- - before they went underground?
- - No.
- 977
- 01:05:44,075 --> 01:05:46,241
- I... I'm sorry, what is it you're
- trying to get answered?
- 978
- 01:05:46,242 --> 01:05:48,674
- You know, maybe if I knew the
- question, I could better help.
- 979
- 01:05:48,675 --> 01:05:51,641
- Well, I'm just trying to understand
- the evidence of the case.
- 980
- 01:05:51,642 --> 01:05:52,707
- Mmm-hmm.
- 981
- 01:05:52,708 --> 01:05:54,207
- Sharon Solarz was atelier.
- 982
- 01:05:54,208 --> 01:05:56,907
- She went through the training program.
- It's pretty self-explanatory.
- 983
- 01:05:56,908 --> 01:05:59,141
- But when you get to the
- others, that's where I get lost.
- 984
- 01:05:59,142 --> 01:06:01,574
- Mimi Lurie, Nick Sloan,
- Vince Dallesandro,
- 985
- 01:06:01,575 --> 01:06:04,141
- that's where it starts
- getting blurry for me.
- 986
- 01:06:04,142 --> 01:06:06,007
- Does it?
- 987
- 01:06:06,008 --> 01:06:07,541
- Dallesandro's prints
- were on the gun.
- 988
- 01:06:07,542 --> 01:06:10,374
- He got caught a couple of days
- later on an anonymous tip.
- 989
- 01:06:10,375 --> 01:06:12,007
- He testified against the others.
- 990
- 01:06:12,008 --> 01:06:13,374
- He was already on parole.
- 991
- 01:06:13,375 --> 01:06:15,974
- And ended up dying in prison,
- or getting killed or killing himself,
- 992
- 01:06:15,975 --> 01:06:17,141
- depending on whose
- report you believe.
- 993
- 01:06:17,142 --> 01:06:19,107
- The others were all
- fugitives at the time,
- 994
- 01:06:19,108 --> 01:06:22,507
- already wanted by the FBI,
- already underground.
- 995
- 01:06:22,508 --> 01:06:24,574
- They knew how to
- disappear, and they did.
- 996
- 01:06:24,575 --> 01:06:27,340
- Yeah, it's just this time I think
- he's doing something different.
- 997
- 01:06:27,341 --> 01:06:29,883
- Why should this time be
- any different than before?
- 998
- 01:06:29,975 --> 01:06:32,448
- Well, this time I don't
- think he's running away.
- 999
- 01:06:33,642 --> 01:06:35,707
- This time I think he's
- trying to clear his name.
- 1000
- 01:06:35,708 --> 01:06:39,341
- Well, how do you think
- he's gonna do that?
- 1001
- 01:06:39,342 --> 01:06:41,141
- I was hoping you
- could help me there.
- 1002
- 01:06:41,142 --> 01:06:43,145
- Not sure how.
- 1003
- 01:06:43,341 --> 01:06:46,674
- The getaway car was his car.
- His prints were all over it.
- 1004
- 01:06:46,675 --> 01:06:49,174
- There was testimony
- that he was there.
- 1005
- 01:06:49,175 --> 01:06:50,674
- So?
- 1006
- 01:06:50,675 --> 01:06:53,273
- What am I missing?
- 1007
- 01:06:53,275 --> 01:06:56,204
- - Hi, Dad!
- - Hey!
- 1008
- 01:06:56,842 --> 01:06:59,574
- All right, sweetie. How are you?
- 1009
- 01:06:59,575 --> 01:07:01,955
- How are you doing? I'm Ben
- Shepard, Albany Sun Times.
- 1010
- 01:07:02,142 --> 01:07:04,240
- My wife Marianne,
- my daughter Rebecca.
- 1011
- 01:07:04,241 --> 01:07:06,041
- Albany Sun Times in
- Albany, New York?
- 1012
- 01:07:06,042 --> 01:07:07,907
- Are you just passing
- through, Mr. Shepard?
- 1013
- 01:07:07,908 --> 01:07:10,381
- He's just leaving.
- 1014
- 01:07:11,842 --> 01:07:13,574
- I'll be right there.
- 1015
- 01:07:13,575 --> 01:07:16,374
- I'm going to be heading to, um...
- 1016
- 01:07:16,375 --> 01:07:19,707
- Um... Ann Arbor for a couple of
- days, and I was just wondering
- 1017
- 01:07:19,708 --> 01:07:22,207
- if maybe we could sit down
- for another five minutes.
- 1018
- 01:07:22,808 --> 01:07:26,374
- All right. I'll be headed back to
- town in a couple of days myself.
- 1019
- 01:07:26,375 --> 01:07:29,341
- - Guess you got my number.
- - Perfect.
- 1020
- 01:07:29,342 --> 01:07:31,918
- Thank you, sir.
- 1021
- 01:07:50,375 --> 01:07:53,303
- - Yeah, hello?
- - How is she?
- 1022
- 01:07:53,441 --> 01:07:56,174
- She's safe. She's right here.
- 1023
- 01:07:56,175 --> 01:07:59,741
- Listen, Eva is afraid the
- apartment's under surveillance.
- 1024
- 01:07:59,742 --> 01:08:02,079
- I'm sure it is.
- 1025
- 01:08:02,474 --> 01:08:06,141
- Well, we snuck out the service
- entrance and came to the park,
- 1026
- 01:08:06,142 --> 01:08:09,582
- and I can't guarantee
- we weren't followed.
- 1027
- 01:08:10,108 --> 01:08:12,138
- Can I speak to her?
- 1028
- 01:08:12,975 --> 01:08:15,675
- Hold on, hold on. Izzy.
- 1029
- 01:08:22,407 --> 01:08:23,541
- Where are you?
- 1030
- 01:08:23,542 --> 01:08:26,974
- Honey, you don't need
- to know that right now.
- 1031
- 01:08:26,975 --> 01:08:30,006
- But why can't you just tell me?
- 1032
- 01:08:30,142 --> 01:08:33,341
- Izzy, all I want to
- know is, are you okay?
- 1033
- 01:08:33,342 --> 01:08:35,540
- Everyone is so mad at you.
- 1034
- 01:08:35,541 --> 01:08:38,941
- - How about you? You mad at me?
- - Where are you?
- 1035
- 01:08:38,942 --> 01:08:41,740
- I'm trying to get back
- to you as soon as I can.
- 1036
- 01:08:41,741 --> 01:08:45,041
- Got him. Just off I-94,
- near Gurnee, Illinois.
- 1037
- 01:08:45,042 --> 01:08:46,974
- Send the coordinates to the field.
- 1038
- 01:08:46,975 --> 01:08:49,402
- - I know, but it won't be long.
- - Done.
- 1039
- 01:08:51,742 --> 01:08:54,317
- You have a full green light.
- 1040
- 01:08:54,675 --> 01:08:57,341
- - Still tracking?
- - Yup.
- 1041
- 01:08:57,342 --> 01:08:58,473
- He's cooked.
- 1042
- 01:08:58,474 --> 01:09:00,674
- Okay, send Bravo Team down.
- 1043
- 01:09:00,675 --> 01:09:03,406
- - Did you kill that man?
- - Did I...
- 1044
- 01:09:03,407 --> 01:09:06,707
- - Kill him? That man at the bank?
- - Of course not.
- 1045
- 01:09:06,708 --> 01:09:08,141
- Then why did you have to leave?
- 1046
- 01:09:08,142 --> 01:09:12,007
- Honey, one day soon you're gonna
- understand everything, I promise.
- 1047
- 01:09:12,008 --> 01:09:17,314
- I don't want you to grow up and look back
- on what I did and feel bad, ever, okay?
- 1048
- 01:09:17,608 --> 01:09:20,383
- But now you're gonna
- have to help me.
- 1049
- 01:09:20,386 --> 01:09:22,086
- You got to be strong.
- 1050
- 01:09:22,308 --> 01:09:27,648
- And then next time, you and I will
- go somewhere together, all right?
- 1051
- 01:09:27,875 --> 01:09:30,007
- Anywhere you like.
- 1052
- 01:09:30,008 --> 01:09:32,640
- Home would be fine.
- 1053
- 01:09:36,175 --> 01:09:40,407
- I gotta go. I love you.
- 1054
- 01:09:40,408 --> 01:09:43,313
- You do know that, right?
- 1055
- 01:10:42,842 --> 01:10:45,088
- - Hi.
- - Hey.
- 1056
- 01:10:45,142 --> 01:10:47,683
- - How was class?
- - Long.
- 1057
- 01:10:49,242 --> 01:10:51,237
- Thanks.
- 1058
- 01:10:56,175 --> 01:10:58,967
- Hey. Hi.
- 1059
- 01:10:59,042 --> 01:11:00,808
- Ben Shepard. We met on the stairs.
- 1060
- 01:11:00,809 --> 01:11:03,680
- Oh, right. Yeah, I remember.
- 1061
- 01:11:04,275 --> 01:11:06,634
- You don't look much
- like your parents.
- 1062
- 01:11:07,142 --> 01:11:09,874
- - I was adopted, so, no.
- - Hmm.
- 1063
- 01:11:09,875 --> 01:11:11,641
- If that was your pick-up
- line, it needs work.
- 1064
- 01:11:11,642 --> 01:11:13,541
- - You mind if I sit?
- - I'm on a date.
- 1065
- 01:11:13,542 --> 01:11:14,907
- - Oh, you're on a date?
- - Yeah.
- 1066
- 01:11:14,908 --> 01:11:17,641
- Yeah, like that thing
- real people do.
- 1067
- 01:11:17,642 --> 01:11:20,240
- Yes, that.
- 1068
- 01:11:20,609 --> 01:11:22,941
- Given your manners,
- I am really surprised
- 1069
- 01:11:22,942 --> 01:11:24,674
- my dad doesn't want to
- spend more time with you.
- 1070
- 01:11:24,675 --> 01:11:26,407
- What? What are you talking about?
- Me and your dad are good.
- 1071
- 01:11:26,408 --> 01:11:29,246
- We're playing poker tonight,
- taking in a Pistons game tomorrow.
- 1072
- 01:11:30,242 --> 01:11:32,271
- - Fun.
- - Mmm.
- 1073
- 01:11:36,175 --> 01:11:38,406
- Can I take you to dinner?
- 1074
- 01:11:38,407 --> 01:11:39,674
- Excuse me?
- 1075
- 01:11:39,675 --> 01:11:41,473
- Right, no, you're right.
- 1076
- 01:11:41,474 --> 01:11:43,473
- Coffee then. What do you think?
- 1077
- 01:11:43,474 --> 01:11:46,807
- I think that my date is on his
- way back and you should leave.
- 1078
- 01:11:46,808 --> 01:11:49,307
- Not until we figure this out.
- Coffee or dinner?
- 1079
- 01:11:49,308 --> 01:11:52,274
- - Persistent.
- - Professional hazard.
- 1080
- 01:11:52,275 --> 01:11:53,774
- - Coffee...
- - Coffee, if you leave right now.
- 1081
- 01:11:53,775 --> 01:11:55,907
- Okay, fine. Deal. Time, place.
- 1082
- 01:11:55,908 --> 01:11:58,074
- - The cafe at the Union. 2:30.
- - Okay.
- 1083
- 01:11:58,075 --> 01:12:00,407
- You know, this guy's
- not right for you.
- 1084
- 01:12:00,408 --> 01:12:02,471
- Says you.
- 1085
- 01:12:04,908 --> 01:12:07,267
- Who was that?
- 1086
- 01:12:07,742 --> 01:12:09,813
- A friend of my dad's.
- 1087
- 01:12:12,342 --> 01:12:15,907
- "Chance," someone once
- said, don't remember who,
- 1088
- 01:12:15,908 --> 01:12:19,416
- "Chance is a nickname
- for providence."
- 1089
- 01:12:19,875 --> 01:12:24,473
- Okay? Well, which is another way of
- saying that all history is inevitable
- 1090
- 01:12:24,474 --> 01:12:27,707
- because it goes to the
- trouble of happening.
- 1091
- 01:12:27,708 --> 01:12:32,508
- Another point of view says that history
- is independent of individual will,
- 1092
- 01:12:32,509 --> 01:12:35,841
- determined by social conditions
- and relations of production.
- 1093
- 01:12:35,842 --> 01:12:40,142
- "Relations of production." We
- remember that. There he is, Karl Marx.
- 1094
- 01:12:40,143 --> 01:12:46,007
- Now these theories propose
- a history immune to effort,
- 1095
- 01:12:46,008 --> 01:12:49,607
- removed from the choices
- of everyday life.
- 1096
- 01:12:50,375 --> 01:12:55,674
- But history is made
- by human beings,
- 1097
- 01:12:55,675 --> 01:12:59,074
- and action and passion.
- 1098
- 01:12:59,075 --> 01:13:05,074
- No less than fate or economics
- are its essential ingredients.
- 1099
- 01:13:05,208 --> 01:13:07,574
- Go. Go, go, go.
- 1100
- 01:13:07,575 --> 01:13:12,707
- But come back tomorrow because
- we'll be discussing Fanon.
- 1101
- 01:13:23,842 --> 01:13:25,041
- Enjoyed your lecture.
- 1102
- 01:13:25,042 --> 01:13:26,607
- Thank you.
- 1103
- 01:13:26,608 --> 01:13:27,941
- "Action and passion."
- 1104
- 01:13:27,942 --> 01:13:31,234
- Sounds like something a
- friend of mine used to say.
- 1105
- 01:13:33,008 --> 01:13:35,407
- No. No, no, no, no.
- 1106
- 01:13:35,408 --> 01:13:36,741
- Need to talk to you, Big J.
- 1107
- 01:13:36,742 --> 01:13:38,920
- Go to hell.
- 1108
- 01:13:40,142 --> 01:13:41,774
- How dare you show up here?
- 1109
- 01:13:41,775 --> 01:13:43,406
- Where else could I go?
- 1110
- 01:13:43,407 --> 01:13:45,574
- You're taking a hell of a chance.
- 1111
- 01:13:45,575 --> 01:13:47,174
- Not by choice.
- 1112
- 01:13:47,175 --> 01:13:50,974
- They're probably watching me.
- Unlike you, they know who I am.
- 1113
- 01:13:50,975 --> 01:13:56,039
- - Hmm. How's that working out, though?
- - Fuck you. I have a life.
- 1114
- 01:13:56,908 --> 01:14:00,808
- I was hoping for a little bit more,
- "Hey, Nick, old friend. How are you?
- 1115
- 01:14:00,809 --> 01:14:03,174
- "How have you been these
- past 30-odd years?"
- 1116
- 01:14:03,175 --> 01:14:05,841
- For Christ's sake, Nick.
- I'm a public figure.
- 1117
- 01:14:05,842 --> 01:14:07,707
- Do you know the position
- you're putting me in here?
- 1118
- 01:14:07,708 --> 01:14:10,707
- Nancy would forgive me banging a
- freshman sooner than talking to you.
- 1119
- 01:14:10,708 --> 01:14:12,541
- You're still with Nan?
- 1120
- 01:14:12,542 --> 01:14:16,641
- - Yeah, some of us made it work.
- - Yeah, some of you got lucky.
- 1121
- 01:14:16,642 --> 01:14:19,574
- - It wasn't luck.
- - Well, what was it then?
- 1122
- 01:14:19,575 --> 01:14:23,107
- Jed, what was it?
- 1123
- 01:14:23,975 --> 01:14:26,368
- We didn't kill anybody.
- 1124
- 01:14:27,175 --> 01:14:28,874
- Jed, I need to find Mimi.
- 1125
- 01:14:28,875 --> 01:14:31,807
- Looking for a girl? They got
- websites for that sort of thing.
- 1126
- 01:14:31,808 --> 01:14:35,135
- What makes you think
- I know where she is?
- 1127
- 01:14:36,407 --> 01:14:38,653
- Donal told you.
- 1128
- 01:14:39,075 --> 01:14:41,874
- Fuck. Fuck.
- 1129
- 01:14:41,875 --> 01:14:45,554
- Does it matter?
- Jed, does it matter?
- 1130
- 01:14:46,575 --> 01:14:48,707
- Look, the truth?
- I haven't talked to Mimi
- 1131
- 01:14:48,708 --> 01:14:51,374
- since bellbottoms went
- out of style, okay?
- 1132
- 01:14:51,375 --> 01:14:53,308
- I mean, how do you know
- she's even still alive?
- 1133
- 01:14:53,309 --> 01:14:54,741
- I don't.
- 1134
- 01:14:54,742 --> 01:14:57,707
- Why would I help you after all these
- years? We didn't even agree back then.
- 1135
- 01:14:57,708 --> 01:15:01,574
- Because Mimi's the only person who
- can help me get my daughter back.
- 1136
- 01:15:01,575 --> 01:15:05,212
- - You got a daughter?
- - Yes.
- 1137
- 01:15:07,175 --> 01:15:09,205
- No shit.
- 1138
- 01:15:41,709 --> 01:15:44,284
- Mimi Lurie.
- 1139
- 01:15:47,242 --> 01:15:49,635
- Henry Osborne.
- 1140
- 01:15:58,708 --> 01:16:01,499
- That doesn't make sense.
- 1141
- 01:16:18,009 --> 01:16:20,675
- Where are you going?
- 1142
- 01:16:32,042 --> 01:16:34,374
- Let's go. You can walk me to class.
- 1143
- 01:16:34,375 --> 01:16:36,711
- - Yeah?
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 1144
- 01:16:36,975 --> 01:16:40,440
- - So, tell me about yourself.
- - Peace Corps for a bit.
- 1145
- 01:16:40,441 --> 01:16:41,574
- Hmm.
- 1146
- 01:16:41,575 --> 01:16:43,941
- Thought I was gonna
- change the world,
- 1147
- 01:16:43,942 --> 01:16:46,808
- decided it was actually people
- who needed changing.
- 1148
- 01:16:46,809 --> 01:16:47,874
- Hmm.
- 1149
- 01:16:47,875 --> 01:16:50,208
- Went back to school
- to study psychology.
- 1150
- 01:16:50,209 --> 01:16:52,541
- Turns out psychology has
- nothing to do with that.
- 1151
- 01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:56,639
- Ended up in New York for a bit.
- 1152
- 01:16:57,208 --> 01:17:00,207
- I guess I thought I was
- gonna change myself.
- 1153
- 01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:02,307
- Turns out I'm too stubborn.
- 1154
- 01:17:02,308 --> 01:17:05,452
- You must be older than I thought.
- 1155
- 01:17:06,908 --> 01:17:10,908
- So what happens now? If in
- doubt, you go back to law school?
- 1156
- 01:17:10,909 --> 01:17:14,781
- I'm not in doubt.
- It's my mom. She's a judge.
- 1157
- 01:17:15,142 --> 01:17:16,507
- - Really?
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 1158
- 01:17:16,508 --> 01:17:18,685
- So is mine!
- 1159
- 01:17:18,742 --> 01:17:21,041
- Just not professionally.
- 1160
- 01:17:23,442 --> 01:17:25,405
- Okay.
- 1161
- 01:17:26,575 --> 01:17:29,049
- You like Michigan?
- 1162
- 01:17:29,075 --> 01:17:31,218
- I love it.
- 1163
- 01:17:31,775 --> 01:17:33,541
- Okay, you.
- 1164
- 01:17:33,542 --> 01:17:35,541
- I read one of your articles
- online last night.
- 1165
- 01:17:35,542 --> 01:17:37,074
- I read a couple of them, actually.
- 1166
- 01:17:37,075 --> 01:17:38,774
- - You're kidding me. Really?
- - Yeah.
- 1167
- 01:17:38,775 --> 01:17:41,473
- And what did you think?
- 1168
- 01:17:41,474 --> 01:17:44,780
- - I think you broke a big story.
- - I did.
- 1169
- 01:17:45,142 --> 01:17:47,174
- I think you're clinging
- to it like a life raft.
- 1170
- 01:17:47,175 --> 01:17:48,407
- Oh, wow.
- 1171
- 01:17:48,408 --> 01:17:50,207
- - Now it defines you.
- - Wow.
- 1172
- 01:17:50,208 --> 01:17:51,307
- Yeah, I do.
- 1173
- 01:17:51,308 --> 01:17:54,213
- Maybe psych's not
- a bad fit after all.
- 1174
- 01:17:55,042 --> 01:17:57,507
- I kind of call 'em like I see 'em.
- 1175
- 01:17:57,508 --> 01:18:01,403
- Fair enough. Call this one.
- Your father's ignoring me. Why?
- 1176
- 01:18:01,542 --> 01:18:05,346
- I'm guessing because he
- doesn't want to talk to you.
- 1177
- 01:18:05,575 --> 01:18:07,445
- Hmm.
- 1178
- 01:18:07,474 --> 01:18:09,777
- He's retired.
- 1179
- 01:18:10,142 --> 01:18:11,807
- I mean... And this was decades ago.
- 1180
- 01:18:11,808 --> 01:18:16,579
- He wants to fish and watch
- boats on the water.
- 1181
- 01:18:17,075 --> 01:18:20,857
- He's also not one for reminiscing.
- 1182
- 01:18:22,142 --> 01:18:25,434
- You know he was close
- to the Lurie family?
- 1183
- 01:18:25,675 --> 01:18:27,508
- - Yeah.
- - Mmm.
- 1184
- 01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:32,156
- Her dad and my granddad
- were fishing buddies, I think.
- 1185
- 01:18:33,275 --> 01:18:34,807
- - That's what I heard.
- - Yeah.
- 1186
- 01:18:34,808 --> 01:18:37,473
- They used to go up to the
- Linder Woods in the UP.
- 1187
- 01:18:37,474 --> 01:18:39,574
- It's absolutely gorgeous up there.
- 1188
- 01:18:39,575 --> 01:18:40,908
- You would hate it.
- 1189
- 01:18:40,909 --> 01:18:42,274
- The UP?
- 1190
- 01:18:42,275 --> 01:18:43,674
- The Upper Peninsula.
- 1191
- 01:18:43,675 --> 01:18:47,082
- Oh. He told me he never met her.
- 1192
- 01:18:49,142 --> 01:18:51,013
- Huh.
- 1193
- 01:18:53,142 --> 01:18:56,974
- That had to be hard, to live with the
- Lurie name after everything went down.
- 1194
- 01:18:56,975 --> 01:19:00,177
- Yeah. I'm sure it was.
- 1195
- 01:19:00,342 --> 01:19:03,374
- Did he ever talk about her
- when you were younger?
- 1196
- 01:19:03,375 --> 01:19:06,451
- This was all way before my time.
- 1197
- 01:19:13,407 --> 01:19:14,941
- What are you thinking?
- 1198
- 01:19:18,375 --> 01:19:20,574
- Can I speak honestly
- with you for a second?
- 1199
- 01:19:20,575 --> 01:19:22,479
- Yeah.
- 1200
- 01:19:22,975 --> 01:19:24,841
- People lie for two reasons.
- 1201
- 01:19:24,842 --> 01:19:28,841
- They speak unknowingly, a simple mistake,
- you know, or they do it intentionally.
- 1202
- 01:19:28,842 --> 01:19:31,041
- And having met a known fugitive
- who is also a family friend
- 1203
- 01:19:31,042 --> 01:19:34,041
- - isn't something you would forget.
- - Mmm. What are you getting at?
- 1204
- 01:19:34,042 --> 01:19:38,007
- In my business, when someone lies
- intentionally, that's significant.
- 1205
- 01:19:38,008 --> 01:19:39,241
- It seems your father lied to me.
- 1206
- 01:19:39,242 --> 01:19:41,841
- I'm guessing 'cause it's
- some way to cover himself.
- 1207
- 01:19:41,842 --> 01:19:46,974
- Look, Ben, I get that you're good
- at your job, but so is my dad,
- 1208
- 01:19:46,975 --> 01:19:50,974
- and I would put the quality of his
- character up against anyone in the world.
- 1209
- 01:19:50,975 --> 01:19:53,008
- So if you're insinuating
- that he was
- 1210
- 01:19:53,009 --> 01:19:56,841
- or is somehow involved in something
- that ends up in your paper,
- 1211
- 01:19:56,842 --> 01:20:00,074
- I would be damn sure you know
- what you're talking about.
- 1212
- 01:20:00,075 --> 01:20:02,407
- I may be a student of
- the law, but that's libel,
- 1213
- 01:20:02,408 --> 01:20:05,610
- and in my business,
- that's significant.
- 1214
- 01:20:10,008 --> 01:20:12,674
- I'd like to see you again.
- 1215
- 01:20:17,308 --> 01:20:19,212
- Bye.
- 1216
- 01:20:32,042 --> 01:20:35,153
- Every sixth and seventh number.
- 1217
- 01:20:35,309 --> 01:20:38,886
- - How do I know who I'm calling?
- - You don't.
- 1218
- 01:20:39,975 --> 01:20:42,482
- - Okay.
- - Good luck.
- 1219
- 01:21:03,242 --> 01:21:04,874
- Yeah?
- 1220
- 01:21:04,875 --> 01:21:09,521
- Hi, this is, uh, John Smith.
- I'm looking for a plumber.
- 1221
- 01:21:10,775 --> 01:21:13,566
- - Are you now?
- - Yes, I am.
- 1222
- 01:21:14,509 --> 01:21:17,907
- Wow. It's been a long time
- since I've heard that.
- 1223
- 01:21:17,908 --> 01:21:19,407
- Is this line clean?
- 1224
- 01:21:19,408 --> 01:21:21,374
- Babe, they didn't
- listen to me back then,
- 1225
- 01:21:21,375 --> 01:21:23,741
- and they sure ain't
- listening to me now.
- 1226
- 01:21:23,742 --> 01:21:26,533
- - Who's calling?
- - Nick Sloan.
- 1227
- 01:21:27,642 --> 01:21:32,241
- Nick Sloan? God,
- I just saw you on TV.
- 1228
- 01:21:32,242 --> 01:21:35,208
- Unless you want to see yourself
- there, too, we better hurry.
- 1229
- 01:21:35,209 --> 01:21:37,956
- I need to get to Mimi Lurie.
- 1230
- 01:21:39,342 --> 01:21:40,674
- Where are you?
- 1231
- 01:21:40,675 --> 01:21:44,810
- 845-555-8249.
- 1232
- 01:21:46,242 --> 01:21:49,922
- Okay. Let's see if we
- still got the juice.
- 1233
- 01:21:50,042 --> 01:21:52,323
- Hang tight, brother.
- 1234
- 01:22:04,042 --> 01:22:06,507
- You want to hear something funny?
- 1235
- 01:22:06,508 --> 01:22:09,241
- I've been Jim Grant
- longer than I've been me.
- 1236
- 01:22:09,242 --> 01:22:11,317
- That's nice.
- 1237
- 01:22:13,009 --> 01:22:15,507
- Come on, Jed. We're
- just talking here.
- 1238
- 01:22:15,508 --> 01:22:18,175
- We don't need to talk.
- 1239
- 01:22:18,242 --> 01:22:20,974
- I think we do. You're angry.
- 1240
- 01:22:21,075 --> 01:22:22,947
- Damn right I am.
- 1241
- 01:22:23,408 --> 01:22:27,508
- Jesus. 30 years on and still
- holding a grudge, huh?
- 1242
- 01:22:27,509 --> 01:22:29,333
- No.
- 1243
- 01:22:30,474 --> 01:22:32,841
- It was the lack of respect.
- 1244
- 01:22:32,842 --> 01:22:34,641
- You guys put everybody in danger.
- 1245
- 01:22:34,642 --> 01:22:36,841
- We didn't kill anybody.
- We didn't hurt anyone.
- 1246
- 01:22:36,842 --> 01:22:39,908
- We were a peace movement,
- for Christ's sake.
- 1247
- 01:22:40,909 --> 01:22:43,780
- People make mistakes, Jed.
- 1248
- 01:22:45,474 --> 01:22:48,274
- Then you turn yourself in and
- atone for what you've done,
- 1249
- 01:22:48,275 --> 01:22:52,114
- and then you keep up the struggle
- in any small way you can.
- 1250
- 01:22:52,209 --> 01:22:55,174
- You like what you're doing now?
- 1251
- 01:22:55,175 --> 01:22:57,974
- Yeah. Yeah.
- 1252
- 01:22:57,975 --> 01:23:01,381
- I like what I try to do.
- I like my students.
- 1253
- 01:23:01,441 --> 01:23:03,741
- Seems like it's mutual.
- 1254
- 01:23:03,742 --> 01:23:05,541
- Yeah.
- 1255
- 01:23:05,542 --> 01:23:10,741
- Yeah, I can still pack the
- hall when I... talk about SDS.
- 1256
- 01:23:12,642 --> 01:23:15,574
- The March on Washington,
- trying to change the world.
- 1257
- 01:23:15,575 --> 01:23:18,308
- They're drawn to it,
- I can tell. I...
- 1258
- 01:23:18,309 --> 01:23:20,341
- They just don't know
- what to do with it.
- 1259
- 01:23:20,342 --> 01:23:24,147
- I don't know why they would.
- It's ancient history to them.
- 1260
- 01:23:24,308 --> 01:23:26,874
- So they listen and clap,
- and then they update
- 1261
- 01:23:26,875 --> 01:23:29,341
- their Facebook statuses
- and they forget all about it.
- 1262
- 01:23:29,342 --> 01:23:30,941
- We've turned into our parents, Jed.
- 1263
- 01:23:30,942 --> 01:23:32,974
- Yeah. Huh!
- 1264
- 01:23:32,975 --> 01:23:36,449
- Now we're just a
- story told to children.
- 1265
- 01:23:37,208 --> 01:23:41,174
- Well, I'm glad someone's
- still telling it.
- 1266
- 01:23:46,508 --> 01:23:47,941
- Yeah?
- 1267
- 01:23:47,942 --> 01:23:50,074
- Are you the guy that
- needs a plumber?
- 1268
- 01:23:50,075 --> 01:23:52,941
- I am. The line clean?
- 1269
- 01:23:52,942 --> 01:23:54,674
- Thirty seconds to be safe.
- 1270
- 01:23:54,675 --> 01:23:56,674
- - Mimi?
- - Was here, yeah.
- 1271
- 01:23:56,675 --> 01:23:59,103
- - "Here"?
- - Big Sur.
- 1272
- 01:23:59,209 --> 01:24:01,956
- - "Was"?
- - Left yesterday.
- 1273
- 01:24:02,042 --> 01:24:03,141
- Say where going?
- 1274
- 01:24:03,142 --> 01:24:04,808
- North.
- 1275
- 01:24:04,809 --> 01:24:06,374
- By boat?
- 1276
- 01:24:06,375 --> 01:24:09,241
- Would have made more sense,
- but she was heading inland.
- 1277
- 01:24:09,242 --> 01:24:11,715
- - Got it.
- - Good luck.
- 1278
- 01:24:12,808 --> 01:24:14,598
- She gone?
- 1279
- 01:24:14,842 --> 01:24:16,746
- Yeah.
- 1280
- 01:24:16,909 --> 01:24:19,838
- But I know where she's headed.
- 1281
- 01:24:20,075 --> 01:24:23,640
- Hey, thanks for everything.
- 1282
- 01:24:23,742 --> 01:24:28,207
- You really want to thank me, Nick,
- you'll never contact me again.
- 1283
- 01:25:03,474 --> 01:25:05,007
- Everything we have on the reporter.
- 1284
- 01:25:05,008 --> 01:25:06,541
- He's been in Michigan for two days.
- 1285
- 01:25:06,542 --> 01:25:09,307
- Background on people he's contacted
- and places he's visited.
- 1286
- 01:25:09,308 --> 01:25:10,374
- Stay on it.
- 1287
- 01:25:10,375 --> 01:25:12,734
- Of course, sir. Travel safe.
- 1288
- 01:25:28,908 --> 01:25:31,654
- Can I see some ID, please?
- 1289
- 01:25:32,009 --> 01:25:35,449
- All right. Thank you, Mr.
- Haywood. Have a good day.
- 1290
- 01:25:45,375 --> 01:25:48,141
- I'm looking for real estate
- records and plat maps
- 1291
- 01:25:48,142 --> 01:25:50,907
- for the Lurie family,
- Linder-Lurie Lumber
- 1292
- 01:25:50,908 --> 01:25:54,439
- and Linder Holdings,
- going back 50 years.
- 1293
- 01:25:55,375 --> 01:25:57,245
- Those three.
- 1294
- 01:26:01,042 --> 01:26:03,435
- Agent Cornelius.
- 1295
- 01:26:05,008 --> 01:26:07,276
- Right this way.
- 1296
- 01:26:17,975 --> 01:26:19,841
- So where are the Linder Woods?
- 1297
- 01:26:19,842 --> 01:26:22,179
- I have no idea.
- 1298
- 01:26:22,575 --> 01:26:25,074
- What about Drummond Island?
- 1299
- 01:26:25,075 --> 01:26:28,406
- Well, it's up here, right
- across the water from Canada.
- 1300
- 01:26:28,407 --> 01:26:30,908
- And this white part, this
- is private property, right?
- 1301
- 01:26:30,909 --> 01:26:32,008
- Beats me.
- 1302
- 01:26:32,009 --> 01:26:34,473
- But, I mean,
- it's not part of that...
- 1303
- 01:26:34,474 --> 01:26:37,874
- That conservancy or that
- preserve or whatever that is?
- 1304
- 01:26:37,875 --> 01:26:39,874
- Doesn't look like it.
- 1305
- 01:26:39,875 --> 01:26:44,282
- I don't see any sales or
- state seizure reports.
- 1306
- 01:26:44,575 --> 01:26:48,374
- But if this is privately owned, somebody
- is still paying taxes on this, right?
- 1307
- 01:26:48,375 --> 01:26:50,849
- I don't know.
- 1308
- 01:26:50,875 --> 01:26:53,507
- - Can I have copies of all this?
- - Sure.
- 1309
- 01:27:26,308 --> 01:27:28,541
- I'm standing outside the
- Ann Arbor Courthouse,
- 1310
- 01:27:28,542 --> 01:27:31,841
- where Sharon Solarz entered
- a plea of not guilty.
- 1311
- 01:27:31,842 --> 01:27:33,741
- Judge Panameno remanded
- her without bail.
- 1312
- 01:27:33,742 --> 01:27:35,674
- - Mr. Osborne, can I speak to you?
- - Not now.
- 1313
- 01:27:35,675 --> 01:27:39,684
- Not talking to me is a very dangerous
- decision for you right now.
- 1314
- 01:27:42,908 --> 01:27:44,641
- Not here. I'll call you.
- 1315
- 01:27:44,642 --> 01:27:47,906
- - Look, if I don't hear from you soon...
- - You will.
- 1316
- 01:29:53,942 --> 01:29:58,111
- Don't bother cleaning up.
- We won't be here that long.
- 1317
- 01:30:05,441 --> 01:30:07,505
- You came.
- 1318
- 01:30:16,742 --> 01:30:18,374
- You look older.
- 1319
- 01:30:21,342 --> 01:30:23,174
- You look the same.
- 1320
- 01:30:23,175 --> 01:30:25,386
- Yeah, right.
- 1321
- 01:30:30,509 --> 01:30:32,541
- Mi, we gotta talk.
- 1322
- 01:30:32,542 --> 01:30:34,571
- So talk.
- 1323
- 01:30:35,008 --> 01:30:37,007
- Come on, Mimi, is this the
- way you're gonna play it?
- 1324
- 01:30:37,008 --> 01:30:39,741
- Like we don't know each other?
- Like I'm just some adversary?
- 1325
- 01:30:39,742 --> 01:30:40,807
- Aren't you?
- 1326
- 01:30:40,808 --> 01:30:41,874
- Don't.
- 1327
- 01:30:41,875 --> 01:30:45,641
- Okay, so why am I here?
- Why did you smoke me out?
- 1328
- 01:30:45,642 --> 01:30:46,774
- Smoke you out?
- 1329
- 01:30:46,775 --> 01:30:48,473
- You went to Donal.
- 1330
- 01:30:48,474 --> 01:30:49,541
- I had to.
- 1331
- 01:30:49,542 --> 01:30:52,812
- Well, I got the message. I'm here.
- 1332
- 01:30:54,108 --> 01:30:56,941
- Nick, I can't help you.
- That's why I'm here.
- 1333
- 01:30:56,942 --> 01:31:00,815
- I came to tell you.
- I figured I owed you that.
- 1334
- 01:31:05,575 --> 01:31:07,638
- Hmm.
- 1335
- 01:31:09,575 --> 01:31:13,303
- - I have a daughter.
- - I know.
- 1336
- 01:31:13,474 --> 01:31:15,812
- She's almost 12.
- 1337
- 01:31:21,275 --> 01:31:23,452
- That's her.
- 1338
- 01:31:27,775 --> 01:31:30,169
- What's her name?
- 1339
- 01:31:30,675 --> 01:31:32,670
- Isabel.
- 1340
- 01:31:33,009 --> 01:31:35,938
- It's your middle name, yeah.
- 1341
- 01:31:36,308 --> 01:31:39,213
- Didn't you love your wife?
- 1342
- 01:31:41,008 --> 01:31:44,974
- - More than you can imagine.
- - Oh, I can imagine.
- 1343
- 01:31:44,975 --> 01:31:46,341
- Look, I know this child.
- 1344
- 01:31:46,342 --> 01:31:49,174
- She's probably never gonna get over
- what's happened to her already,
- 1345
- 01:31:49,175 --> 01:31:52,008
- and she's got a whole
- life ahead of her.
- 1346
- 01:31:52,009 --> 01:31:55,376
- - So I'm asking you just...
- - You're asking me
- 1347
- 01:31:55,908 --> 01:32:01,771
- to give myself up so I can clear
- you for the sake of the child.
- 1348
- 01:32:03,208 --> 01:32:07,615
- I see. Everything to protect
- the new little family.
- 1349
- 01:32:07,842 --> 01:32:09,341
- Fuck your principles?
- 1350
- 01:32:09,342 --> 01:32:12,782
- Fuck anything else you
- used to stand for?
- 1351
- 01:32:14,075 --> 01:32:17,141
- Well, the struggle doesn't end
- just because you got tired of it.
- 1352
- 01:32:17,142 --> 01:32:20,041
- I didn't get tired of it.
- I grew up.
- 1353
- 01:32:20,042 --> 01:32:22,874
- Well, we promised each other
- we weren't gonna do that.
- 1354
- 01:32:22,875 --> 01:32:25,234
- Yeah, but it happened.
- 1355
- 01:32:29,175 --> 01:32:31,241
- I left the movement for the
- same reason I joined it,
- 1356
- 01:32:31,242 --> 01:32:35,616
- because I didn't want to see good
- people's lives thrown away for nothing.
- 1357
- 01:32:36,809 --> 01:32:40,704
- You've waited a long time to
- tell me that, haven't you?
- 1358
- 01:32:42,042 --> 01:32:46,301
- And you've been a long time
- coming home from the bank.
- 1359
- 01:32:49,742 --> 01:32:52,887
- You were close to
- Mimi Lurie's family.
- 1360
- 01:32:53,375 --> 01:32:56,241
- I wouldn't say close.
- My dad knew her dad.
- 1361
- 01:32:56,242 --> 01:32:58,074
- Hmm.
- 1362
- 01:32:58,075 --> 01:33:00,807
- You went to the same
- school, same church.
- 1363
- 01:33:00,808 --> 01:33:03,679
- You went on fishing trips together.
- 1364
- 01:33:04,075 --> 01:33:07,004
- There's something
- you're not telling me.
- 1365
- 01:33:07,309 --> 01:33:09,041
- What are you driving at, Shepard?
- 1366
- 01:33:09,042 --> 01:33:12,274
- You know that Nick Sloan is looking for
- something or someone to clear him?
- 1367
- 01:33:12,275 --> 01:33:16,240
- - I know that's your assumption.
- - Could that be Mimi Lurie?
- 1368
- 01:33:18,042 --> 01:33:20,106
- I'm off the record.
- 1369
- 01:33:22,809 --> 01:33:26,941
- Think it out. First, he'd have to
- find her, convince her to testify.
- 1370
- 01:33:26,942 --> 01:33:29,107
- Second, she'd have to surrender.
- 1371
- 01:33:29,108 --> 01:33:32,652
- - But it's a participant's testimony.
- - That's the point.
- 1372
- 01:33:32,875 --> 01:33:36,241
- If Mimi comes out of hiding and
- surrenders herself to testify
- 1373
- 01:33:36,242 --> 01:33:37,907
- that Nick Sloan wasn't at the bank,
- 1374
- 01:33:37,908 --> 01:33:40,741
- it's what lawyers call a
- declaration against interest.
- 1375
- 01:33:40,742 --> 01:33:43,508
- It destroys her own
- possibility of a defense.
- 1376
- 01:33:43,509 --> 01:33:45,874
- - It would clear him.
- - Why? Why would she do that?
- 1377
- 01:33:45,875 --> 01:33:48,574
- Why would she give herself up
- to a jail sentence to save him?
- 1378
- 01:33:48,575 --> 01:33:50,274
- I mean, what is her motivation?
- 1379
- 01:33:50,275 --> 01:33:54,041
- - You really think she's gonna do that?
- - It doesn't matter what we think.
- 1380
- 01:33:54,042 --> 01:33:55,774
- He obviously believes
- he can convince her.
- 1381
- 01:33:55,775 --> 01:33:57,805
- Why now?
- 1382
- 01:33:58,407 --> 01:34:01,245
- Why not do this back then?
- 1383
- 01:34:03,809 --> 01:34:05,406
- How long have you known about this?
- 1384
- 01:34:07,742 --> 01:34:10,473
- I'm obviously not the only
- person in this conversation
- 1385
- 01:34:10,474 --> 01:34:15,023
- who knows about her ties to a piece of
- property just on the outside of Canada.
- 1386
- 01:34:16,308 --> 01:34:19,208
- Mr. Osborne, what's the actual charge
- against a law enforcement officer
- 1387
- 01:34:19,209 --> 01:34:22,407
- who fails to follow credible evidence about
- the whereabouts of a known fugitive?
- 1388
- 01:34:22,408 --> 01:34:25,587
- I think there'd be
- a variety, actually.
- 1389
- 01:34:25,809 --> 01:34:29,215
- You have information. Why
- aren't you coming forward?
- 1390
- 01:34:29,575 --> 01:34:33,541
- Well, you have information,
- too, so what are you gonna do?
- 1391
- 01:34:33,542 --> 01:34:36,440
- I'm a journalist. I'm gonna
- do what I always do.
- 1392
- 01:34:36,441 --> 01:34:39,208
- This information is gonna be on every
- computer screen in the next 20 minutes.
- 1393
- 01:34:39,209 --> 01:34:41,141
- I'm gonna find out everything
- you're hiding from me,
- 1394
- 01:34:41,142 --> 01:34:45,072
- and I'm gonna expose it in a
- very big and very real way.
- 1395
- 01:34:45,675 --> 01:34:49,207
- You're about to do a lot of
- damage to a lot of people.
- 1396
- 01:34:49,209 --> 01:34:52,001
- You have no idea how much.
- 1397
- 01:34:52,342 --> 01:34:54,678
- I think they have it coming.
- 1398
- 01:34:54,708 --> 01:34:57,853
- On that, you could
- not be more wrong.
- 1399
- 01:34:57,975 --> 01:35:02,810
- Innocent people are about to get swept
- up in this storm you're unleashing.
- 1400
- 01:35:02,942 --> 01:35:05,866
- - Trust me.
- - Trust you?
- 1401
- 01:35:06,775 --> 01:35:09,741
- Tell me something, Mr. Osborne, are
- you one of those innocent people?
- 1402
- 01:35:09,742 --> 01:35:12,011
- No, I am not.
- 1403
- 01:35:13,075 --> 01:35:15,616
- But my daughter is.
- 1404
- 01:35:16,441 --> 01:35:18,437
- How so?
- 1405
- 01:35:24,875 --> 01:35:30,484
- I got something I need to do,
- but on my own terms.
- 1406
- 01:35:55,108 --> 01:35:57,104
- Upper Peninsula.
- 1407
- 01:36:05,474 --> 01:36:08,882
- Beck, it's Dad.
- I'm trying you again.
- 1408
- 01:36:09,075 --> 01:36:12,583
- Um, sorry about the messages.
- 1409
- 01:36:12,909 --> 01:36:15,374
- Uh... Listen, if you...
- 1410
- 01:36:15,375 --> 01:36:20,070
- When you get a chance, I need
- to talk to you to tell you, um...
- 1411
- 01:36:20,441 --> 01:36:23,438
- This... This Shepard guy...
- 1412
- 01:36:25,441 --> 01:36:27,950
- It's important, Beck.
- 1413
- 01:36:28,909 --> 01:36:32,588
- I love you, sweetie.
- Call me back, please.
- 1414
- 01:36:36,675 --> 01:36:38,574
- I don't know why that's
- so hard to figure out.
- 1415
- 01:36:38,575 --> 01:36:40,741
- What made you think that
- I was ever going to be...
- 1416
- 01:36:40,742 --> 01:36:42,607
- For one thing, I didn't do it.
- I wasn't there, Mimi.
- 1417
- 01:36:42,608 --> 01:36:45,440
- But you should have been, then
- everything would have been different.
- 1418
- 01:36:45,441 --> 01:36:49,274
- Vince lost his cool completely.
- You wouldn't have.
- 1419
- 01:36:49,275 --> 01:36:51,508
- - Nobody would have gotten hurt.
- - Somebody didn't get hurt.
- 1420
- 01:36:51,509 --> 01:36:55,141
- Somebody got killed. A father,
- a husband with a family.
- 1421
- 01:36:55,142 --> 01:36:58,041
- Do you think I didn't think about that
- when so many fathers with families
- 1422
- 01:36:58,042 --> 01:37:01,009
- - were being killed and still are?
- - You shouldn't have gone, Mimi.
- 1423
- 01:37:01,010 --> 01:37:03,341
- You should have said no.
- 1424
- 01:37:04,474 --> 01:37:07,007
- - We were done.
- - No, you were done.
- 1425
- 01:37:07,008 --> 01:37:09,574
- I never was, but you
- couldn't accept that.
- 1426
- 01:37:09,575 --> 01:37:11,308
- Mimi...
- 1427
- 01:37:11,709 --> 01:37:15,718
- You fooled yourself into
- thinking I was someone else,
- 1428
- 01:37:15,742 --> 01:37:18,108
- and you're still doing it.
- 1429
- 01:37:18,109 --> 01:37:20,741
- I'm not the one fooling
- myself. It was over.
- 1430
- 01:37:20,742 --> 01:37:24,785
- It wasn't over.
- It's still not over.
- 1431
- 01:37:24,942 --> 01:37:27,207
- Every single thing we
- said then is true today,
- 1432
- 01:37:27,208 --> 01:37:29,741
- and every single day
- it's getting worse.
- 1433
- 01:37:29,742 --> 01:37:33,484
- - That's not the point.
- - Oh, it's exactly the point, Nick.
- 1434
- 01:37:34,108 --> 01:37:38,022
- I won't give myself up
- to a system I despise.
- 1435
- 01:37:38,275 --> 01:37:40,808
- I won't give up my freedom
- and accept their version
- 1436
- 01:37:40,809 --> 01:37:44,440
- - of what life is supposed to be.
- - Mimi, how free are you? Really?
- 1437
- 01:37:44,441 --> 01:37:46,687
- Well, I'm not in jail.
- 1438
- 01:37:46,875 --> 01:37:49,108
- I don't expect you to understand.
- 1439
- 01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:51,541
- - They have you, Nick.
- - Oh, like hell.
- 1440
- 01:37:51,542 --> 01:37:55,607
- The system that protects the super-rich
- and the super-super-super-rich
- 1441
- 01:37:55,608 --> 01:37:58,107
- and fucks over everyone
- else and the planet to boot.
- 1442
- 01:37:58,108 --> 01:38:00,407
- Mimi. Mimi, would you just stop?
- 1443
- 01:38:00,408 --> 01:38:02,774
- Everyone who's given
- up and given in,
- 1444
- 01:38:02,775 --> 01:38:08,003
- they're living at the expense of what
- they once believed. It's so sad.
- 1445
- 01:38:08,275 --> 01:38:11,641
- You understood this.
- I'm sorry you've forgotten.
- 1446
- 01:38:11,642 --> 01:38:15,941
- I wish I had forgotten, because my
- problem is I can't stop remembering.
- 1447
- 01:38:15,942 --> 01:38:18,807
- So if you've built a wall so
- high, more power to you.
- 1448
- 01:38:18,808 --> 01:38:22,560
- - You're stronger than I am.
- - I will turn myself in...
- 1449
- 01:38:22,561 --> 01:38:27,941
- the day the politicians and corporations
- turn themselves in for all they've done.
- 1450
- 01:38:27,942 --> 01:38:31,440
- That's the day I'll hand myself
- in, Scout's fucking honor.
- 1451
- 01:38:31,441 --> 01:38:33,473
- Stop hiding behind your
- fucking revolutionary rant.
- 1452
- 01:38:33,474 --> 01:38:36,407
- - Oh, don't turn it on me.
- - You know what I see?
- 1453
- 01:38:36,408 --> 01:38:40,338
- I see the same person.
- I see it, kid.
- 1454
- 01:38:41,075 --> 01:38:43,707
- I see it in your eyes.
- 1455
- 01:38:44,942 --> 01:38:49,912
- You can hide from everyone else in the world
- and be somebody else, but not with me.
- 1456
- 01:38:50,375 --> 01:38:53,674
- What are your memories, Mi?
- The ones you can't run away from?
- 1457
- 01:38:53,675 --> 01:38:55,465
- Hey!
- 1458
- 01:38:57,407 --> 01:39:00,440
- We had a responsibility
- beyond the cause.
- 1459
- 01:39:00,441 --> 01:39:02,539
- We had a baby.
- 1460
- 01:39:07,575 --> 01:39:11,288
- And we were so consumed
- by our principles
- 1461
- 01:39:11,875 --> 01:39:14,473
- that we abandoned our
- most fundamental duty.
- 1462
- 01:39:19,808 --> 01:39:22,736
- We were doing our duty, Nick.
- 1463
- 01:39:22,942 --> 01:39:25,807
- We made a plan that if
- anything ever went wrong...
- 1464
- 01:39:25,808 --> 01:39:27,074
- We never should have
- carried out that plan.
- 1465
- 01:39:27,075 --> 01:39:30,308
- ...we knew exactly what we
- had to do. We both agreed...
- 1466
- 01:39:30,309 --> 01:39:31,974
- We were wrong.
- 1467
- 01:39:31,975 --> 01:39:33,041
- We had no choice.
- 1468
- 01:39:33,042 --> 01:39:36,277
- So we should have known it.
- We were wrong.
- 1469
- 01:39:37,942 --> 01:39:42,770
- We both accepted it, and
- we've both had to live with it.
- 1470
- 01:40:24,875 --> 01:40:27,348
- It wasn't a dream.
- 1471
- 01:40:28,575 --> 01:40:34,677
- It was a possibility we
- could have made a reality.
- 1472
- 01:40:35,875 --> 01:40:39,210
- - We could make them stop.
- - Yeah.
- 1473
- 01:40:40,542 --> 01:40:43,379
- Yeah, we could change things
- 1474
- 01:40:44,375 --> 01:40:47,337
- if we could make a difference.
- 1475
- 01:40:48,309 --> 01:40:51,544
- I still believe in
- that possibility.
- 1476
- 01:41:03,742 --> 01:41:06,522
- Is that all you believe?
- 1477
- 01:41:15,175 --> 01:41:18,108
- Can you put me through
- to Ben Shepard, please?
- 1478
- 01:41:19,642 --> 01:41:21,374
- Ah, shit.
- 1479
- 01:41:21,375 --> 01:41:23,141
- Rebecca?
- 1480
- 01:41:23,142 --> 01:41:26,174
- What did you say to my dad?
- He sounds really upset.
- 1481
- 01:41:26,175 --> 01:41:27,374
- What do you mean?
- 1482
- 01:41:27,375 --> 01:41:29,241
- He left me a dozen voice
- messages last night.
- 1483
- 01:41:29,242 --> 01:41:31,510
- He said it had to do with you.
- 1484
- 01:41:31,809 --> 01:41:34,236
- What is going on?
- 1485
- 01:41:34,708 --> 01:41:38,183
- You're gonna have to
- talk to your father.
- 1486
- 01:41:50,575 --> 01:41:52,912
- You're up.
- 1487
- 01:41:53,875 --> 01:41:56,141
- Remember when these
- trees were so small
- 1488
- 01:41:56,142 --> 01:41:59,548
- you could see clear
- across the water?
- 1489
- 01:42:04,441 --> 01:42:06,710
- I saw her.
- 1490
- 01:42:08,875 --> 01:42:10,905
- What?
- 1491
- 01:42:15,042 --> 01:42:18,220
- I went into Ann Arbor on my way.
- 1492
- 01:42:18,775 --> 01:42:24,775
- I didn't want to. I just
- couldn't help myself.
- 1493
- 01:42:27,908 --> 01:42:32,713
- I sat in my car like
- some kind of stalker.
- 1494
- 01:42:33,709 --> 01:42:35,681
- Mim...
- 1495
- 01:42:40,275 --> 01:42:43,067
- She's really something, Nicky.
- 1496
- 01:42:45,275 --> 01:42:47,247
- Truly.
- 1497
- 01:42:52,275 --> 01:42:54,974
- We always intended
- to tell you the truth.
- 1498
- 01:42:54,975 --> 01:42:57,277
- You always intended?
- 1499
- 01:42:58,608 --> 01:43:00,574
- At the time we felt...
- 1500
- 01:43:00,575 --> 01:43:03,719
- We hoped that nobody
- needed to know.
- 1501
- 01:43:05,309 --> 01:43:08,510
- I never asked about
- my birth parents.
- 1502
- 01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:10,641
- I really never needed to know.
- 1503
- 01:43:10,642 --> 01:43:15,050
- We know. There's no
- way to make this easier.
- 1504
- 01:43:15,474 --> 01:43:18,608
- We redid your identity,
- papered a legal adoption.
- 1505
- 01:43:18,609 --> 01:43:21,446
- None of that matters to me.
- 1506
- 01:43:22,542 --> 01:43:24,974
- Did you think I couldn't handle it?
- 1507
- 01:43:24,975 --> 01:43:26,841
- Sweetie, we gotta
- talk through this.
- 1508
- 01:43:31,775 --> 01:43:34,475
- No one's perfect, Beck.
- 1509
- 01:43:35,474 --> 01:43:37,652
- I love you.
- 1510
- 01:43:41,342 --> 01:43:43,579
- I love you, too.
- 1511
- 01:44:08,308 --> 01:44:11,714
- I can't do what you
- want me to do, Nicky.
- 1512
- 01:44:11,775 --> 01:44:13,770
- I know.
- 1513
- 01:44:15,142 --> 01:44:18,616
- I guess I was hoping you would
- become the person who could.
- 1514
- 01:44:23,408 --> 01:44:25,506
- So it goes.
- 1515
- 01:44:48,375 --> 01:44:50,874
- Sir, the local canine
- units are on the way.
- 1516
- 01:44:50,875 --> 01:44:53,053
- Roger that.
- 1517
- 01:44:57,509 --> 01:44:59,481
- Hello?
- 1518
- 01:45:02,075 --> 01:45:03,980
- I'm here alone.
- 1519
- 01:45:05,975 --> 01:45:07,880
- Hello?
- 1520
- 01:45:09,474 --> 01:45:11,707
- You? Oh, sh...
- 1521
- 01:45:11,708 --> 01:45:14,819
- You expect to see somebody else?
- 1522
- 01:45:16,175 --> 01:45:19,007
- - Is she here?
- - Who are we talking about?
- 1523
- 01:45:19,008 --> 01:45:21,707
- "Who are we talking
- about?" Mimi Lurie.
- 1524
- 01:45:21,708 --> 01:45:23,974
- - That's who you came to see, right?
- - Huh?
- 1525
- 01:45:23,975 --> 01:45:25,874
- Mimi Lurie. That's who you
- came to see, correct?
- 1526
- 01:45:25,875 --> 01:45:28,440
- - Why would I do that?
- - She could testify you weren't at the bank.
- 1527
- 01:45:28,441 --> 01:45:31,313
- Almost sounds like a
- news story, doesn't it?
- 1528
- 01:45:31,642 --> 01:45:36,107
- - Unfortunately, I need a source.
- - Really? Must be a new policy.
- 1529
- 01:45:36,108 --> 01:45:39,707
- - Is she here, Nick?
- - She never was.
- 1530
- 01:45:44,375 --> 01:45:46,883
- - You call them?
- - No.
- 1531
- 01:45:50,809 --> 01:45:55,473
- Well, you got yourself a story, kid.
- Congratulations. Hope you're satisfied.
- 1532
- 01:45:55,474 --> 01:45:57,541
- I don't want to see a guy go
- to jail for the rest of his life
- 1533
- 01:45:57,542 --> 01:45:58,641
- for something he didn't do.
- 1534
- 01:45:58,642 --> 01:46:01,008
- Is that what passes for
- idealism these days?
- 1535
- 01:46:01,009 --> 01:46:03,308
- Is Mimi going to surrender?
- 1536
- 01:46:03,309 --> 01:46:05,974
- - No.
- - No? So, where are you going?
- 1537
- 01:46:05,975 --> 01:46:08,641
- Well, before she cannot surrender,
- she has to first not get caught.
- 1538
- 01:46:08,642 --> 01:46:11,007
- I don't understand.
- There was an easier way.
- 1539
- 01:46:11,008 --> 01:46:15,335
- There usually is.
- You'll learn that lesson.
- 1540
- 01:46:16,342 --> 01:46:18,685
- You know, I met your daughter.
- 1541
- 01:46:21,875 --> 01:46:24,450
- Your older daughter.
- 1542
- 01:46:25,875 --> 01:46:28,838
- Then you really do have
- yourself a story, don't you?
- 1543
- 01:46:29,108 --> 01:46:31,808
- I'm guessing you didn't just
- stumble into this information.
- 1544
- 01:46:31,809 --> 01:46:37,467
- By my count, there are exactly four people
- on the planet that knew about this.
- 1545
- 01:46:39,342 --> 01:46:41,974
- You get let in on
- something like this, Ben,
- 1546
- 01:46:41,975 --> 01:46:44,574
- you get answers, but not
- the ones you think.
- 1547
- 01:46:44,575 --> 01:46:47,041
- Secrets are dangerous things, Ben.
- 1548
- 01:46:47,042 --> 01:46:50,374
- We all think we want to know them,
- but if you've kept one to yourself,
- 1549
- 01:46:50,375 --> 01:46:52,174
- you come to understand
- that doing so means
- 1550
- 01:46:52,175 --> 01:46:55,141
- that you may learn something
- about somebody else,
- 1551
- 01:46:55,142 --> 01:46:58,320
- but you also discover
- something about yourself.
- 1552
- 01:46:59,109 --> 01:47:01,141
- I hope you're ready for that.
- 1553
- 01:47:01,142 --> 01:47:04,707
- At this point, I have
- no more secrets.
- 1554
- 01:47:05,708 --> 01:47:07,703
- You're a smart guy.
- 1555
- 01:47:07,808 --> 01:47:09,907
- Hold on. I'm not gonna hurt you.
- 1556
- 01:47:09,908 --> 01:47:13,041
- You know exactly what motivates
- me and has for the last 30 years.
- 1557
- 01:47:13,042 --> 01:47:16,074
- What you're gonna have to figure
- out is what motivates you.
- 1558
- 01:47:16,075 --> 01:47:19,007
- - I hope you like the answer.
- - Hold on. Nick!
- 1559
- 01:47:19,008 --> 01:47:21,774
- - Nick!
- - When the FBI comes, they'll follow me.
- 1560
- 01:47:21,775 --> 01:47:24,612
- They'll never know she was here.
- 1561
- 01:47:38,309 --> 01:47:40,976
- There he is.
- 1562
- 01:48:48,309 --> 01:48:49,741
- What's that? That's it.
- 1563
- 01:48:51,975 --> 01:48:53,220
- Come on.
- 1564
- 01:48:56,976 --> 01:49:02,806
- All right, we'll take up. You
- guys flank around from there. Go.
- 1565
- 01:49:45,042 --> 01:49:47,015
- There he is!
- 1566
- 01:49:52,441 --> 01:49:54,414
- Nicholas Sloan?
- 1567
- 01:49:55,042 --> 01:50:00,780
- You're under arrest for the
- murder of Hugh Krosney.
- 1568
- 01:50:10,441 --> 01:50:13,552
- Can't say I'm happy to see you.
- 1569
- 01:51:46,474 --> 01:51:49,241
- ...after an armed robbery
- at a jewelry store.
- 1570
- 01:51:49,242 --> 01:51:53,774
- Mimi Lurie, last remaining fugitive from
- the 1980 Bank of Michigan robbery,
- 1571
- 01:51:53,775 --> 01:51:57,107
- surrendered herself to authorities
- today near Drummond Island, Michigan,
- 1572
- 01:51:57,108 --> 01:51:59,041
- just across the water from Canada.
- 1573
- 01:51:59,042 --> 01:52:01,241
- She confessed to her
- role in the robbery,
- 1574
- 01:52:01,242 --> 01:52:03,341
- which resulted in the
- death of a guard.
- 1575
- 01:52:03,342 --> 01:52:05,975
- Charges have been dropped
- against Nicholas Sloan,
- 1576
- 01:52:05,976 --> 01:52:09,007
- long thought to be a
- co-conspirator in the robbery.
- 1577
- 01:52:09,008 --> 01:52:11,741
- No comment yet from Sloan,
- who is expected to be released
- 1578
- 01:52:11,742 --> 01:52:14,407
- from custody as early as tomorrow.
- 1579
- 01:52:14,408 --> 01:52:16,883
- In other news today...
- 1580
- 01:53:07,775 --> 01:53:11,174
- Mr. Sloan, how long were you a member
- of the Weather Underground, sir?
- 1581
- 01:53:11,175 --> 01:53:12,241
- Mr. Sloan!
- 1582
- 01:53:17,575 --> 01:53:18,841
- I have nothing to say.
- 1583
- 01:53:18,842 --> 01:53:22,314
- Do you have any plans for
- today, your first day free?
- 1584
- 01:53:23,075 --> 01:53:25,867
- Have you talked to your
- daughter yet, sir?
- 1585
- 01:53:26,942 --> 01:53:28,766
- Clear a path, please.
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