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  1. amio - Today at 3:02 AM
  2. I'm assuming you'll be dealing with the kid who just attacked me for no reason?
  3. 偽物 - Today at 3:02 AM
  4. I will if he mentions it again, but he hasn't spoke after I said to knock if off. you have, though.
  5. I'm not here to "handle" the fight I'm here to get rid of it
  6. amio - Today at 3:04 AM
  7. I'm just (still) not a fan of having everyone accuse me of shit. I didn't start this and it's pretty obvious
  8. 偽物 - Today at 3:05 AM
  9. I didn't say that, I said you're perticipating in an off-topic argument
  10. I don't care so much if it starts, but after someone says stop, you stop
  11. that goes for everyone
  12. amio - Today at 3:06 AM
  13. That's not what you said, actually, although it'd make more sense
  14. In the future I'd appreciate a more clear sign that just starting personal attacks out of literally nothing is frowned upon as well
  15. 偽物 - Today at 3:06 AM
  16. my point is if you didn't continue it after I said to stop and logan did I'd be having this conversation with him right now instead
  17. you could just ignore it and be the bigger man
  18. amio - Today at 3:08 AM
  19. I resent being accused of starting shit, which is the rather clear implication. I was not "continuing" anything, I was merely stating that I wasn't and never had been doing anything.
  20. 偽物 - Today at 3:10 AM
  21. I'm sure you realize logan is a kid taking a stupid jab at you and absolutely nobody cares what either of you say to each other and they just don't want to see your slapfight, yeah?
  22. amio - Today at 3:10 AM
  23. I come in here in order to discuss coding and help people, I resent his being able to just lob random insults in my direction literally because I wasn't talking to him, with literally no repercussions - whereas I get singled out because I don't accept that literally everything is my fault
  24. not for the first time, I might add
  25. 偽物 - Today at 3:11 AM
  26. if someone says something petty to you, DM a mod
  27. do not respond to them in public. DM them if you must, although I don't recommend that either. But definitely don't have an argument in public channels, that goes for everyone, nobody is targeting you
  28. amio - Today at 3:11 AM
  29. It's pretty obvious that the mods are likely to take anyone's side but mine
  30. 偽物 - Today at 3:12 AM
  31. that's not true, although if you persist with that belief I can see you getting into more situations in the future
  32. amio - Today at 3:13 AM
  33. That's... actually true, and it seems like a fair assessment given that I keep being attacked and insulted while either actively trying to help or at least minding my own business, and you people seem extremely intent on painting me as the bad guy
  34. I do not, however, think it's my fault. I just want the whole thing to be less ridiculously biased and unfair.
  35. 偽物 - Today at 3:14 AM
  36. who are "you people"
  37. I'm not sure how I can make this any clearer, if you respond, you lose. don't respond, this isn't a boxing match, just ignore people being stupid and they'll get hurt instead of you
  38. nobody's targeting you dude, that's kind of insane
  39. I'm just saying, your actions make who you are. I know you're just trying to defend yourself, but you don't actually need to, and participating in slapfights like that makes you look bad
  40. just be kind and helpful and you'll be respected
  41. amio - Today at 3:34 AM
  42. Yeah, I'm practically basking in that respect now
  43. I'm not feeling particularly helpful after this, but I do expect not to be attacked
  44. 偽物 - Today at 3:34 AM
  45. you don't have to be so patronizing, I'm just trying to calm you down
  46. amio - Today at 3:35 AM
  47. If you're looking for every opportunity to exercise authority, I suggest starting with the people who are actually starting shit
  48. 偽物 - Today at 3:35 AM
  49. some kid who barely comes to the server poked fun at you, relax
  50. I'm not doing anything, I said you two should stop and I would have done that regardless of my status
  51. amio - Today at 3:35 AM
  52. I'd like to be kind and helpful, but I never know when that little idiot is going to start more shit which I'll invariably get gangbanged about
  53. that makes it hard to participate
  54. 偽物 - Today at 3:36 AM
  55. I don't know how to say this in a way you'll understand, I told you both to stop. you didn't stop, so I politely asked you again to stop
  56. I didn't even warn you, I just said what would happen if you continued
  57. I would have treated the other guy the same
  58. amio - Today at 3:37 AM
  59. I didn't stop because there was nothing to stop
  60. I'd done nothing wrong, unlike the other guy, and I was only trying to make that point, which I would still like acknowledged
  61. 偽物 - Today at 3:37 AM
  62. you were continuing to discuss the issue
  63. amio - Today at 3:38 AM
  64. I wasn't even continuing, you insisted on taking it that way, for some reason I still don't understand
  65. 偽物 - Today at 3:38 AM
  66. I'll DM the other guy and talk to him about it if it makes yu feel better
  67. how did I do that?
  68. amio - Today at 3:40 AM
  69. After I pointed out that I wasn't doing anything , you seemed like you intensely wanted that to be some kind of continuation. I'm very, very bad at backing down from unfair accusations, I just wanted to make it clear that I was not doing anything and that I resent the implication.
  70. 偽物 - Today at 3:40 AM
  71. this is what happened
  72. 1. both of you were bickering
  73. 2. I told you both to stop
  74. 3. you kept mentioning the issue when I told you both to stop
  75. 4. I told you stop, again.
  76. 5. you didn't.
  77. 6. I told you again to stop.
  78. amio - Today at 3:41 AM
  79. We weren't bickering. I commented on something completely unrelated, he thought I was talking to him, I told him I was not, he attacked me.
  80. I asked, literally, if he felt he had to start that shit again, though I suppose you can't argue with results
  81. 偽物 - Today at 3:41 AM
  82. that's called provoking
  83. amio - Today at 3:41 AM
  84. wrong
  85. 偽物 - Today at 3:42 AM
  86. no, it really is
  87. if you wanted to ask that you can take it to a DM
  88. amio - Today at 3:42 AM
  89. It really isn't. If anything it's a sign that I didn't want to start on that shit again
  90. Anyway, this is going nowhere. Please deal with his trolling and leave me out of it. This discussion is over
  91. 偽物 - Today at 3:42 AM
  92. you know what would be an approved way to signal you don't want to start shit? by ignoring it
  93. I'll talk to him
  94. amio - Today at 3:43 AM
  95. Thanks.
  96. 偽物 - Today at 3:43 AM
  97. just please, in the future, if someone says something like that again, just ignore it, or take it to DMs if you must
  98. none of us need to know what kind of drama you have with other users
  99. amio - Today at 3:47 AM
  100. If I had the slightest amount of faith that the situation would be handled fairly, there would be no drama. The guy with his ridiculous personal attacks (which I think started because I didn't give him the answer he wanted, merely the correct one) would be out on his ass and that would be that
  101. 偽物 - Today at 3:48 AM
  102. it was handled fairly, I told you both to stop
  103. should I have muted him then and there for being mildly annoying?
  104. amio - Today at 3:49 AM
  105. Why not? Apparently that was a completely legitimate reaction from the staff when it was me trying to defend myself against being labeled a "troll"
  106. 偽物 - Today at 3:49 AM
  107. you don't need to defend yourself against anyone, this is a programming server
  108. amio - Today at 3:50 AM
  109. If you'd said "shouldn't", I'd be in perfect agreement :p
  110. 偽物 - Today at 3:50 AM
  111. I get BlackCentipede can be a little trigger happy sometimes, but he doesn't hand out infractions for no reason
  112. look, if someone continuously harasses you, we'll handle it. but if someone snaps at you then you don't need to respond
  113. any way you look at it, it kind of takes two people to have an argument, and we don't allow arguments
  114. amio - Today at 3:54 AM
  115. The thing is, when you implicitly treat both parties like they're at fault when one side is clearly the aggressor and the other did nothing wrong, it looks completely identical to taking sides
  116. 偽物 - Today at 3:55 AM
  117. we're not here to handle personal issues between users, we're here to keep the peace, as in, we don't want issues between users to begin with
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