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Low Plat Autism: like
Low Plat Autism: why
Low Plat Autism: would you play literally one of the worst champions
Low Plat Autism: in a serious game
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Low Plat Autism: what would make you think it's a good idea
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Low Plat Autism: go fuck around in normals
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AnjouShin: teemo isnt bad
PrimeACH: .....................
Low Plat Autism: we're in
Low Plat Autism: gold
AnjouShin: yeh
Sawada cheunayos: HE DID MORE DMG THAN U
Low Plat Autism: okay?
Sawada cheunayos: BE QUIET GRAVES
AnjouShin: teemo isnt bad
AnjouShin: and gold isnt good
Sawada cheunayos: HE CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN U
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Low Plat Autism: people that cite damage as a source shouldn't be allowed to reproduce
Low Plat Autism: we don't need you in the gene pool
AnjouShin: wow
AnjouShin: dude
AnjouShin: wtf
AnjouShin: calm down hitler
Low Plat Autism: if you can't understand that simple concept
Low Plat Autism: I don't know what to say to you
AnjouShin: all I hear is QQ
Sawada cheunayos: maybe
Sawada cheunayos: u would say
Sawada cheunayos: that i have better kda
Sawada cheunayos: y dont ya?
Low Plat Autism: you won
Low Plat Autism: congrats?
AnjouShin: shh.. dont talk to him like that. he doesnt understand numbers that well
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Low Plat Autism: garen you got solo killed by wukong in lane
Low Plat Autism: you're actually decent at the game
Low Plat Autism: but like
Low Plat Autism: don't do that friend
Low Plat Autism: pretty embarrassing
Low Plat Autism: tbh
AnjouShin: you are the one spilling hate
AnjouShin: you should be embarassed
Low Plat Autism: I got FBed
Low Plat Autism: because I misclicked on a minion and walked into a snare
AnjouShin: yeh
Low Plat Autism: called it as my mistake
AnjouShin: sucks
Low Plat Autism: and apologized to my team
AnjouShin: but still
AnjouShin: dude
Low Plat Autism: this teemo
AnjouShin: you cant ride the rage train
Low Plat Autism: thought he was doing fine
Low Plat Autism: like
AnjouShin: he was doing fine
Low Plat Autism: ???
AnjouShin: syndra had trouble against him
AnjouShin: thats pretty decent
Low Plat Autism: 158 cs
Low Plat Autism: 40 min
Low Plat Autism: furthermore
Low Plat Autism: we told him
Low Plat Autism: not to go teemo
PrimeACH: he had 2 items
PrimeACH: 40 min in
AnjouShin: im not saying he did well. but still
PrimeACH: garen
AnjouShin: no reason to fucking rage like a lunatic
PrimeACH: you got carried by our mid laner
PrimeACH: congratz on your free win
AnjouShin: wow
AnjouShin: dude
Low Plat Autism: it's not raging
Low Plat Autism: i'm honestly curious
Low Plat Autism: under what cirucmstances
AnjouShin: you are saying it like you would have won otherwise
Low Plat Autism: would you think teemo is a good idea
PrimeACH: morg was only decent player on your team
Low Plat Autism: in ranked
AnjouShin: even with a decent mid you would have lost
Low Plat Autism: eh
PrimeACH: LOL
PrimeACH: bro
Low Plat Autism: eeeeeeeeeeeeh
AnjouShin: dude
Low Plat Autism: well
AnjouShin: face it
Low Plat Autism: with this guy
AnjouShin: it was not only teemos fault
Low Plat Autism: in mid
PrimeACH: only reason we lost was bc shyv had bad engage.
Low Plat Autism: no matter what champ
Low Plat Autism: we would've lost
AnjouShin: no
AnjouShin: see
AnjouShin: the thing is
Low Plat Autism: shyv wasn't good
Low Plat Autism: er
Low Plat Autism: syndra
AnjouShin: you dont even consider that you are partly to blame
Low Plat Autism: she was bad
PrimeACH: garen let me put it this way
PrimeACH: youre shit
AnjouShin: YOU DONT EVEN CONSIDER
PrimeACH: and you got free win
Low Plat Autism: i wouldn't say that
Low Plat Autism: but
PrimeACH: congratz
Low Plat Autism: syndra was bad
AnjouShin: you arent
PrimeACH: garen
AnjouShin: even considering that you did anything wrong
PrimeACH: i say again
PrimeACH: youre shit
PrimeACH: and you got free win
Low Plat Autism: I already said
PrimeACH: congratz
AnjouShin: wow
Low Plat Autism: I got fbed because I fucked up
AnjouShin: you guys
AnjouShin: are bad
AnjouShin: and dont know it
PrimeACH: i say again
PrimeACH: youre shit
Low Plat Autism: and there were multiple times I got caught out
PrimeACH: and got free win
PrimeACH: congratz
Low Plat Autism: we all made mistakes that game
PrimeACH: keep talking
AnjouShin: repeating it doesnt make it true
PrimeACH: oh its very true lol
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Low Plat Autism: but
AnjouShin: lol
Low Plat Autism: that guy
Low Plat Autism: was mad
Low Plat Autism: still though
AnjouShin: the problem you have is
Low Plat Autism: syndra was bad and if she had gone against a competent player on a different champ
Low Plat Autism: that's one huge damage threat down
AnjouShin: you can only influence yourself
AnjouShin: and if you lose you are to blame
AnjouShin: always
Low Plat Autism: yeah
AnjouShin: even if you did well
Low Plat Autism: not equal share of the blame though
AnjouShin: and you dont realize that
AnjouShin: but you arent even recognizing part of it
AnjouShin: all you say was "if we had a decent mid we would have won!"
Low Plat Autism: Low Plat Autism: I got fbed because I fucked upAnjouShin: you guysAnjouShin: are badAnjouShin: and dont know itPrimeACH: i say againPrimeACH: youre shitLow Plat Autism: and there were multiple times I
Low Plat Autism: yeah
Low Plat Autism: if i had played better
Low Plat Autism: we would've had a better chance at winning
Low Plat Autism: of course
Low Plat Autism: that's always true for every player in literally every game
AnjouShin: exactly
Low Plat Autism: but there's a point where
Low Plat Autism: certain players
Low Plat Autism: are carrying more of the team's weight than others
Low Plat Autism: I don't play adc
Low Plat Autism: this is the second time i've played adc in ranked this season
AnjouShin: yeh
Low Plat Autism: but
AnjouShin: see that is part of the problem
Low Plat Autism: if I can at least
Low Plat Autism: go positive
AnjouShin: no
AnjouShin: dont start there
Low Plat Autism: alright
AnjouShin: dont content yourself with that
Low Plat Autism: hear me out
Low Plat Autism: first
Low Plat Autism: if I
Low Plat Autism: play a role that I'm not comfortable on
Low Plat Autism: so that someone can else can play something they're comfortable at
Low Plat Autism: isn't it their obligation
Low Plat Autism: to at least go even
Low Plat Autism: ?
AnjouShin: no
AnjouShin: because its a team game
AnjouShin: its your job to make the team succeed and not yourself succeed
Low Plat Autism: that's
Low Plat Autism: exactly what I said
Low Plat Autism: If I put the team in a position to succeed
Low Plat Autism: and the team doesn't
AnjouShin: if you do well as adc but your team gest destroyed
Low Plat Autism: by definition
AnjouShin: that means should play differently
Low Plat Autism: the team is taking more blame than the individual
AnjouShin: no
Low Plat Autism: how so
AnjouShin: that means you couldnt make your team succeed
AnjouShin: which means you might as well could jave gone 0/0/0
AnjouShin: good stats < teamplay
Low Plat Autism: you're implying that there isn't a maximum that one person can do
Low Plat Autism: you could put faker in a 5v1 against bronze v players and he'd still lose
Low Plat Autism: that's an exaggeration
Low Plat Autism: but it proves the point
AnjouShin: if you play for good stats you automatically play more selfish
Low Plat Autism: you're right to an extent
AnjouShin: maybe going 6/6/12 is better than 12/3/2
Low Plat Autism: maybe
Low Plat Autism: but each champion role is different
Low Plat Autism: as an adc
AnjouShin: yeh
Low Plat Autism: playing "selfishly" is generally the right way to play
AnjouShin: not neccessarily
AnjouShin: baiting is a huge deal
Low Plat Autism: now I can't read the future
AnjouShin: sometimes you die
Low Plat Autism: but
Low Plat Autism: generally
Low Plat Autism: as in
Low Plat Autism: more often than not
AnjouShin: but your team can murder the enemy when you sacrifice yourself
Low Plat Autism: if an adc plays for himself he'll do better
Low Plat Autism: who was going to murder
Low Plat Autism: your team
Low Plat Autism: this game
Low Plat Autism: 0/10 teemo with two items?
Low Plat Autism: full tank wukong?
AnjouShin: that wukong was full of it
Low Plat Autism: yeah
AnjouShin: terrible player
Low Plat Autism: better than the teemo tho but point still stands
AnjouShin: yeh
AnjouShin: im not saying teemo was good
AnjouShin: but raging never helps
AnjouShin: and saying outright "strategy X never works"
AnjouShin: also doesnt help
Low Plat Autism: let me amend my first statement then
Low Plat Autism: "strategy X
Low Plat Autism: which in this case is playing teemo in ranked
AnjouShin: ive won plenty of games as teemo in gold
Low Plat Autism: may work, but will put your team at a large disadvantage to the point that if you're seriously trying to win, it's a bad decision"
Low Plat Autism: and how many of those games did you win off of the merits of teemo alone
Low Plat Autism: and not off of your merits as a player, or your team's, or the lack of opposing skill?
Low Plat Autism: i've won ranked games as support ap shaco before
AnjouShin: all of them
Low Plat Autism: extremely doubtful
AnjouShin: because in the end you cant win 4v5
AnjouShin: always needs 5
AnjouShin: if you win you contributed
Low Plat Autism: i don't think you're understanding the question
Low Plat Autism: I'm saying
Low Plat Autism: take the games you won as teemo
Low Plat Autism: now imagine you had played a different top laner
Low Plat Autism: say
Low Plat Autism: gnar
Low Plat Autism: or if you're looking for damage
Low Plat Autism: ryze
AnjouShin: i only play teemo top as counterpick
AnjouShin: never blank teemo picks
AnjouShin: so all of them
Low Plat Autism: yet there are still other counters
AnjouShin: or maybe one cause it was a 4v5
Low Plat Autism: to those same champions
Low Plat Autism: that could contribute just as much or more to your team
AnjouShin: nobody can answer that question cause there are so many factors
AnjouShin: when I play teemo top as a counterpick I usually win the lane
AnjouShin: so I have 17 wins and 10 losses in gold
AnjouShin: as teemo
Low Plat Autism: yet you could have picked other champions and likely win the lane
Low Plat Autism: also
Low Plat Autism: as a tangent
AnjouShin: not really
Low Plat Autism: went up on lolcounter
Low Plat Autism: champions teemo counters are
Low Plat Autism: trynd nasus singed garen voli and aatrox
AnjouShin: jax and riven, too
AnjouShin: darius
Low Plat Autism: with the exception of jax
Low Plat Autism: how many times are those champs played in high level play?
Low Plat Autism: you're using a bad counter to a bad champ
AnjouShin: not really
Low Plat Autism: even then in the jax case that's werlyb and not many other players
Low Plat Autism: riven gets picked in lck/lpl rarely but the point still stands
AnjouShin: the thing is
AnjouShin: this isnt diamond
AnjouShin: its gold
AnjouShin: where you can play teemo
AnjouShin: he is not up there with the super high tiers
Low Plat Autism: fair enough
Low Plat Autism: but at the same time, this is ranked
AnjouShin: but that is because "up there" has different team compositions
Low Plat Autism: if you aren't playing to improve, what are you in ranked for?
Low Plat Autism: isn't the goal to get "up there"?
AnjouShin: each level of skill
AnjouShin: has different strategies
AnjouShin: e.g. bard in bronze
AnjouShin: is just default 4v5
AnjouShin: annie in silver is just instawin
Low Plat Autism: that's just the example i'm going for
Low Plat Autism: bard in bronze is a 4v5
Low Plat Autism: and the bard player is getting nothing off of it
Low Plat Autism: annie owns silver
Low Plat Autism: but with
Low Plat Autism: very
Low Plat Autism: very
Low Plat Autism: very
Low Plat Autism: rare exceptions
Low Plat Autism: if you just spam annie you might hit gold v
Low Plat Autism: if you can get good teams
AnjouShin: you need to master the now to get into the high tiers
Low Plat Autism: but until you can get good at what "up there" is playing
Low Plat Autism: you're gonna plateau
AnjouShin: no you need to find out how to break the current level of skill
AnjouShin: to get to the next level
AnjouShin: you cant use diamond strategies in golv
AnjouShin: gold
AnjouShin: i mean you can but it wont show the same results
AnjouShin: so in gold teemo is part of the meta
Low Plat Autism: you're just hurting yourself in the long run though
AnjouShin: not really
AnjouShin: cause you also learn how to improve yourself
Low Plat Autism: that's
Low Plat Autism: debateable
Low Plat Autism: you can learn how to improve yourself regardless of what you're playing and what strat you're using
AnjouShin: all I am saying is. right now teemo is part of gold
AnjouShin: and weird strategies are also part of gold
Low Plat Autism: if your goal is to
Low Plat Autism: roll gold and stop there
Low Plat Autism: then I mean
AnjouShin: no
Low Plat Autism: I guess I can't disagree
AnjouShin: i mean right now you can do a teemo for example
AnjouShin: as a counterpick
Low Plat Autism: but if you can get to "up there" by getting good at what "up there" plays I don't see why you wouldn't
AnjouShin: win and move higher
Low Plat Autism: spamming annie to get out of silver
Low Plat Autism: isn't going to work in gold
Low Plat Autism: and you're just further behind the people that got out of silver by learning to play the game the "correct" way
AnjouShin: but you can stall in silver for example while playing something that diamonds play
AnjouShin: that is the point
AnjouShin: you need to play to win the next game and not games in the future
AnjouShin: so that teemo palyer from your team is gonna stay here
AnjouShin: cause he doesnt know anything
AnjouShin: and picks teemo just because. but if you use him in a niche setup you win most games
AnjouShin: anyway. Im gonna go to bed
Low Plat Autism: and yet
Low Plat Autism: aight then
Low Plat Autism: was an enjoyable discussion
AnjouShin: yeh
AnjouShin: just remember
AnjouShin: dont drink too much of the haterade
AnjouShin: ;P
Low Plat Autism: 8^)
Low Plat Autism: see you on the fields, summoner
AnjouShin: hehe cu
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