Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
So i have a few questions about your marketing proposal, as well as your vision for what marketing should happen within this space if you dont mind
Firstly, what's your vision for where Nano should be marketed in a 'mainstream' fasion first? And, do you think that locaiton is a suitable first endeavor for Nano's ROI?
Second, what are your thoughts on Colin's vision of having this be a currency that the unbanked can utilize for everyday payments and savings?
And Third, for your marketing proposal are you looking to take a salary or be paid using funds from donations? If so, are you looking to pay others too? (I saw you mention something about paying people to be part of your team)

MEllison006/30/2019
Hi, thanks for reaching out. I’ll start by answering your second question first because that will make my answer to the first one make more sense. In short, I don’t agree with the direction Colin is taking the project. With my background in economics, I know that what developing countries need is stability first and foremost, and in that regard I think Libra has them beat by a mile. In terms of my vision for marketing, I want to do the exact opposite. I think pushing for first world adoption is where Nano’s strengths actually are. I think that pushing awareness as THE money of the 21st century will by far provide the most fruit. It is everything that Bitcoin wanted to be and is the technological successor. And to answer your third question I do plan on accepting donations for the team, but that will be completely separate from the core donation pool on Nano Center. Everything donated in Nano Center will 100% go to the projects, but I would also like to have a separate address where people can donate and that will be divided evenly amongst the NCMT official members at the beginning of every month.

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
Okay, we may be able to do something from a TNC perspective, and I certainly think that having another group promote Nano on another front is beneficial. Have you read 'Crossing the Chasm' by chance?

MEllison006/30/2019
I haven’t, no.

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
I'd recommend it

MEllison006/30/2019
I'll look into it, thanks.

MEllison006/30/2019
Forgive my ignorance, I’ve been jumping all over the place, but I’ve seen you on reddit. You’re associated with the Nano Center, correct?

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
Yeah I'm currently running things at TNC. I'm also a US community manager

MEllison006/30/2019
Awesome, like I said my apologies the Nano community is so massive it’s hard to keep track of who’s who.

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
haha its all good, i take no offense
I asked those earlier questions because we at TNC have spitballed a number of different Nano marketing funds

MEllison006/30/2019
Well I look forward to speaking with you about this. 36 hours ago this didn’t even exist, but it’s shown a lot of support. I’m confident we’ll be able to figure this out,

MEllison006/30/2019
I gave you a special role in the chat so you can stick out.

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
oh neat! :raised_hands:

MEllison006/30/2019
So if you don’t mind let’s start brainstorming some of the solutions so that we can make this a reality?
What has been some of the problems that you guys have encountered before when it comes to marketing projects?

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
At tnc? Just the logistics of changing Nano to btc or fiat for use in any campaigns

MEllison006/30/2019
Okay. Yeah I understand that that can complicate things.
We might have a guy from England. Not sure what they tax laws are like there.

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
we do too, he said there's a limit on how much he can trade before it becomes taxed
and he's already at that limit lol

MEllison006/30/2019
Damn, yeah I'll talk to this guy and see.
Because I know that with my business for instance if I put in money as a capitalization then that doesn't need to be taxed.
So if we could get someone to sell it tax free then turn around and use it to fund the project that might work.

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
yeah possibly. idk though, seems that opens us up to "money transmitter" regulations
theres a lot of murky things, legally speaking, here

MEllison006/30/2019
There are. In my business I'm the paper guy so I'm the one who assures legal and financial compliance. I've never been much of a frontline salesman.
Hey since I'm taking to you and nanoissuperior at the same time about the same thing let's move this chat to the official team channel

Rockmsockmjesus06/30/2019
ok

MEllison007/01/2019
Hey so I just wanted to get a general timeframe that we should expect the review process to take. Thanks again for your support.

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
yeah, ill have to talk it out with the other ambassadors to get a general feel of what they think of it, and depending on how many revisions we would like, can be anywhere from a few days to week if its approved

MEllison007/01/2019
Okay awesome take your time. The goal is to do this right. I look forward to working with you guys on this.

MEllison007/01/2019
So I wanted to keep you in the loop. Here’s our current plan for our first project.
We really liked the idea of having a short descriptive video similar to a Coinbase earn. So we’re going to create a short one and a half minute video about all of the strengths of Nano. We’d want to partner with Nanillionaire so when he does one of his giveaways, he can attach the video to the tweet so the people entering are actually learning about nano instead of just hoping for free money.
You can see the sample script now on the secret channel.
So the script we can produce, but a voice actor and video editor we will need to find. Preferably in house because it would be cheaper.
We also want it to be high enough quality that it can serve as a genuine advertisement or commercial on its own.

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
Video editing we may need to find through the subreddit, I may be able to voice it
Idk
Or I can get my gf

MEllison007/01/2019
How are her skills?

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
She sounds good, young. Can read a script lol
I'm biased

MEllison007/01/2019
Well it is a fact people respond better to a female voice
I’m looking for as close to the lady on Coinbase earn as possible
That’s a perfect voice

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
Link me a vid

MEllison007/01/2019
https://www.coinbase.com/earn/dai/lesson/1/
Earn DAI: Lesson 1
Dai is a decentralized stablecoin running on the Ethereum blockchain. It aims to always be worth one US dollar.


Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
Possibly hit up fiverr for this

MEllison007/01/2019
I think that’s a good thing actually
Too high pitched of a voice comes negatively

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
No I agree

MEllison007/01/2019
So you’re the expert on your girlfriend here would she be willing to read a sample script?
Also I want to get your opinion on it
What is Nano?

Nano is a money for the digital age. While everything has been evolving around us, like our smart phones, computers, and watches, why hasn’t our money kept up the pace?

Nano is an evolution in money meant to integrate the world into the digital age.

Nano is fast. Most Nano transactions take less than one second to fully process. Meaning that the person you are paying will receive the funds ready to use before you can tell them that you sent it.

Nano is also free to send and receive, making it ideal for all forms of transaction. Someone sending money back home to their parents in a developing country will often times need to pay X in fees, and small businesses see their margins squeezed by up to X in fees just for accepting credit and debit cards. With Nano, the amount sent is the amount received, with no exceptions.

Nano is green. Most traditional payment methods use significant resources in one way or another to make transactions possible. X trees are cut down every year to continue printing cash and credit card processors use X electricity per year. Nano’s X means that it operates with minimal carbon footprint, making it the greenest currency in the world.

Nano is decentralized, borderless, and censorship resistant. Meaning that your spending power isn’t influenced at the whim of corrupt governments, greedy banks, or evil corporations. Your Nano is yours to use, and no entity can prevent you from using it.

Nano is a store of value. There are currently just over 133 million Nano in circulation, all that will ever be produced, meaning that your spending power will naturally grow over time. Losing value over the course of several years due to inflation is a thing of the past.

And most importantly Nano is secure and easy to use. If looked after properly your Nano will be next to impossible to steal, and intuitive apps such as Natrium makes Nano easier to use than your credit card.

This is money for the 21st century. This, is Nano.

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
okay im going to revise this a bit

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
What is Nano?

Nano is a revolution in what money can be. While most things in our lives have evolved significantly in the last twenty years, like our phones, computers, and watches, our money has stayed relatively unchanged for the last 100 years. Why is that?

Nano is an evolution in money meant to integrate the world into the digital age.

Nano is fast. Most Nano transactions take less than one second to fully process. Meaning that the person you are paying will receive the funds ready to use before you can tell them that you sent it.

Nano is also free to send and receive, making it ideal for all forms of transaction. Someone sending money back home to their parents in a developing country will often times need to pay a significant amount in fees, and small businesses see their profits whittled away by transaction fees just for accepting credit and debit cards. With Nano, the amount sent is the amount received, no exceptions.

Nano is green. Most traditional payment methods use significant resources in one way or another to make transactions possible. Thousands of trees are cut down every year to print cash, and credit card processors as well as Bitcoin’s network use an inefficient amount of electricity per year. Meanwhile, Nano’s network operates with a minimal carbon footprint, making it the most environmentally friendly currency in the world.

Nano is decentralized, borderless, and censorship resistant. This means your spending power isn’t influenced at the whim of corrupt governments, greedy banks, or evil corporations. Your Nano is yours to use, and no entity can prevent you from using it no matter where you are.
Nano is a store of value. There are just over 133 million Nano in circulation, and no more can be ever produced, meaning that as a saver your spending power will naturally grow over time. With Nano, losing spending power each year due to inflation is a thing of the past.

And most importantly Nano is secure and easy to use. If secured properly your Nano is next to impossible to steal, and intuitive apps such as Natrium makes Nano easier to use than your credit card or other digital currencies.

This is money for the 21st century. This is Nano.

MEllison007/01/2019
I like it. I think a solid one and a half minute video with solid voice over and solid graphics, whether animated or stock footage, will be really powerful.
I think what so many people struggle to see within the cryptosphere is that it’s hard for most people to understand why crypto is a thing. This explains it very quickly and very simply, and no other crypto can top Nano on any one of these points.

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
well, there may be need for another video about why Nano over the dollar
like, no central authority, no inflation (and really spell out the effects of inflation), capital restrictions present in fiat currencies, etc
but this should be a great primer

MEllison007/01/2019
Agreed. I think if we can make a series of short informational videos that that would be perfect for both informing the rest of the community as well as new investors
And we really need to take the angle that Nano is in a league of its own
Can’t even compare to other cryptos
And we’ll prove it by comparing lol
But I agree that we need to say it’s the best money in the world period, not just best crypto.
Because Nano could seriously be $1-2K one day of it gets serious adoption.
So several hundred should be relatively easy

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
for sure
for comparrison, we should run down "what makes a currency better than others?"
and list a few points of why Nano beats out all others

MEllison007/01/2019
Yes.
So I’ll make the YouTube channel soon.
Should we come up with a different name?
For the channel.
Something that will describe the videos better.

Rockmsockmjesus07/01/2019
idk honestly

MEllison007/01/2019
We could always just make a playlist name later

Rockmsockmjesus07/02/2019
Okay ive taken a look at the proposal
if you can write it in the perspective of an already running project, that would help
also, we need a "Usage of funds" section so people know what they are donating towards
are you going to promote crypto youtubers? for instance?
buy ad space?
promote with just production videos? Or a combination thereof
either way, I would put a section for usage of funds. If you have a percentage allocation for different things, that works too
once thats added ill throw it to the others for a vote
(also, i would recommend any funds raised through TNC be not for paying yourselves, but 100% for promotion of Nano in explicit ways. If you want to have a landing page on your own website for donations for your projects founders to be paid with, thats also fine)

MEllison007/02/2019
Okay cool thanks for the feedback. I'll rewrite it either today or tomorrow and let you know when it's fixed.
And I thought I already stated that 100% of TNC funds will go towards the project
and we already have a separate tip fund for the developers

Rockmsockmjesus07/02/2019
awesome, just make sure that's all within another "usage of funds" section so everyone looking at the project on the site understands that

MEllison007/02/2019
For sure.

MEllison007/03/2019
Okay so to summarize you want me to clarify the usage of funds correct?
And when you say from the perspective of an already running project did you mean write it in the style of a project that's already approved on the Nano Center under the project listings? Or as in we are already up and running so I'm writing it like we're already doing stuff?

Rockmsockmjesus07/03/2019
"We will first begin by submitting this proposal for approval on the Nano Center. If approved, we will seek to utilize their platform "

MEllison007/03/2019
Okay I see now

Rockmsockmjesus07/03/2019
also include a "Use of funds" section detailing what sort of marketing you plan on doing. Is this purchase of ad space, paid sponsorships on youtube or twitter, etc, or is this direct marketing like looking for Nano implementations

MEllison007/03/2019
Updated and good to go!

Rockmsockmjesus07/03/2019
okay sent to the other ambassadors

MEllison007/03/2019
Okay awesome, I look forward to hearing what they have to say.

MEllison007/10/2019
Hey man so obviously no rush, we've all got time. I'm just looking to check in to see how things are going. Anything I can do?

Rockmsockmjesus07/10/2019
So, the concerns most ambassadors shared were some of the same concerns they have with other proposals. Mainly that TNC is for supporting funds / projects with defined goals and usage of all donations. With your project, this would have been more of a slushfund where money can be allocated to smaller things ad-hoc
They were very clear that they don't want to discourage you and your group from soliciting donations, just that until you have a specific goal, like for an individual project, they would like to see how you make do with the resources you already have.
Personally, I'd suggest setting up a website of your own like you said, and soliciting for different projects within your site
to quote one ambassador, "I would prefer to see them putting through individual marketing proposals through the nanocenter, rather than asking for a lump sum to do with as they please within another separate entity."

MEllison007/10/2019
That concern is something I thought about after submitting the proposal, and I totally understand the aversion to a slushfund. I was thinking about instead putting up our proposals one by one on your website. So right now this commercial series we're planning is really our only main focus, so we can do that one first.
Yes exactly.

Rockmsockmjesus07/10/2019
i feel that, and we can talk about next steps from a TNC perspective once that's lined up.

MEllison007/10/2019
Okay, I'll talk with the guys and solidify a plan for that.

Rockmsockmjesus07/10/2019
awesome. Let me know if you'd like any guidance on that

MEllison007/10/2019
Will do, thanks again :smiley:

MEllison007/13/2019
You know I did think about creating a ‘seal team six’ like group in here that’s secret and not talked about, but is totally dedicated to covert shilling campaigns. If so we can handpick the people we trust to do so.
I think it has potential.
Compare Nano to Litecoin.
Like how LTC went up then crashed hard only to super bounce the next bull run.
And we can use this massive dip as an entry and say “look guys I think now is a good entry point”

Rockmsockmjesus07/13/2019
If nothing else, for a near to medium term hold. I think a good percentage of converts will stay for the long haul though
Yeah, I think this has potential. Even saying nano should be a top 15 coin is pretty easy to believe, and that means an 8x from where we are now
'Shill Team Six' rofl

MEllison007/13/2019
Question
If you don’t have access to a private channel can you see that it exists?
I’m not super familiar with discord but would want to make it as private as possible.

MEllison007/13/2019
Okay to test can you see the “test” channel I have up right now?

Rockmsockmjesus07/13/2019
No I cant
You can hide channels
We have hidden mod channels in every nano discord server

MEllison007/13/2019
Okay good so I’m gonna rename it shill team six and add you

MEllison007/13/2019
Okay so I have a question regarding our project and the Nano Center.
It's kind of a catch 22 right now. We would like to see our budget to know what we're working with before we start recruiting the people for the job. But you would like to see what we had planned before approving us.
Is there anyway we can sort out this situation so that we get something that works regardless of our eventual budget?

RockmsockmjesusLast Sunday at 6:56 AM
What do you mean?
With TNC, it's a platform that usually funds things after they have a project going, and usually to recoup costs or maintain servers etc. The ambassadors really dont like funding new things, as we dont really know what's to happen with the funds
If you have a specific project, and can start it and run it for a bit on your own pool of funds, then after you have some metrics on reach and success of your project should TNC be willing to throw money

MEllison0Last Sunday at 11:00 AM
I'm not looking for funding from TNC I'm looking just to set up a page so that the community can donate to the project. I haven't seen the community this enthused about anything in a long time. Over two hundred Twitter followers, over one hundred Discord members, every post on Reddit about it gets at least 100 upvotes. We've had dozens of people say they'd donate to the project. We're working with you, and Andy, and Nanillionaire. Especially with the exchange pushes NF is making and the extreme marketing moves coming from Nanillionaire we also need to be a part of this big push and we just can't get started until we know what our budget is. When it comes to voice actors, audio engineers, animators, ad budget, etc. We need to know what we're working with. There's a reason we'd keep the funds with you guys so it doesn't seem shady like we're running away with them.
I get your principles here but this clearly isn't a random no-name project at this point. This is something real and I don't think the red tape is going to help the community right now. Our window of opportunity is coming up and we need to be all in, every single one of us, because we have the serious potential to turn Nano around.

RockmsockmjesusLast Sunday at 11:32 AM
In that case imo dont use TNC to hold your funds. It's more red tape as you call it, and ambassadors may not like your proposed projects and initiatives and will hamstring you or slow you down
Make a page as a standalone, and accept donations to a few funds. A youtube partnership fund fo sponsored content, an advertising fund, a content creation fund, etc.

MEllison0Last Sunday at 11:38 AM
The main reason I’ve been avoiding that this whole time is credibility. Most people trust you guys, I wouldn’t even trust a separate fund if I were on the outside.

RockmsockmjesusLast Sunday at 11:42 AM
I mean... trust comes with time. I'm sure people will donate regardless of being a tnc project or not. Maybe not as much donations at first, but as people see progress reports and updates you may get sustained donators
With that said, we've had some shitty and some underfunded projects at tnc too

MEllison0Last Sunday at 12:41 PM
Okay, so we've decided to pursue other fundraising options then.

RockmsockmjesusLast Sunday at 1:45 PM
Let me reiterate that you're welcome to get funding from TNC after you have made measurable progress toward an initiative or have already started a campaign. Just getting upvotes on a post or getting people into your discord server generally isnt enough to sway the other ambassadors

MEllison0Last Sunday at 2:05 PM
I understand, and maybe I misunderstood TNC, but I thought it was meant to kickstart projects, well, similar to kickstarter. I just don’t see the purpose in going on TNC once we already get funding. That was my initial intent anyway, and I tried to make it as reasonable as possible, but we’ll find another way. Thanks though for the input and feedback along the way though.

RockmsockmjesusLast Sunday at 2:11 PM
Absolutley, and for TNC's part it's more of an evolution to combat weak proposals with nothing to go on other than "here is my plan, please fund me" types, of which we get constantly. TNC would rather fund things that have already shown measurable progress in some way, and are looking to get funding to continue in the same fashion or to expand thier reach or functionality in scope. Maybe TNC should position ourselves better, because we arent trying to be " the kickstarter for Nano", we're trying to support projects and initiatives which have already made an impact in the Nano ecosystem in a positive and measurable way. I'm sure they would love to host a marketing fund limited in scope once this team has already made some progress and can stand on it's own.

MEllison0Last Wednesday at 8:07 PM
So what do you think about Andy's idea of having the NC posting in tiers?

RockmsockmjesusLast Wednesday at 8:08 PM
What do you mean?

MEllison0Last Wednesday at 8:08 PM
I completely understand where you guys are coming from. But I think with the exchange listings and big marketing pushes coming up that this isn't the time to handicap marketing development for the sake of rules are rules.
Andy suggested that a way for us to meet in the middle here would be for us to set up the donation page in tiers. For example we'll do this if we get this amount, this if we get this amount, etc.

RockmsockmjesusLast Wednesday at 8:29 PM
You'll have to fill me in on Andy's idea :sweat_smile:

MEllison0Last Thursday at 9:31 AM
Okay so there's a degree of separation between us that's apparent. We would like to get funding before producing the videos and you would like for us to wait until we have something going for us. Andy initially suggested something else but I have a new idea.
How about we make a website that's like a coinbase earn but without the videos at first. It'll be a text only website. Then once we have that in full gear, we'll look into making videos.
Would that be better for you guys?

RockmsockmjesusLast Thursday at 9:34 AM
sure, but it's still the same issue of "needing something to show before we put a project on TNC". Starting small in this regard works well, as it's easy to overdeliver with a smaller plan that needs less funding.
also, i should add that I really believe in this project, and I'm rooting for the success of a community marketing push
It's just that we need something to show, either as a minimum viable product, or an already established prior project to point to

MEllison0Last Thursday at 9:41 AM
I understand I'm working on sorting this out soon.
A lot of ideas from a lot of people to manage and avoid.

RockmsockmjesusLast Thursday at 9:58 AM
I feel ya. If you need any help with picking a good order of things to tackle, I'm always here

MEllison0Last Thursday at 10:21 AM
Thanks man
I'll reach out if I need it