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  1. /12/12 20:35] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Hey, Darke. I need to ask, what happened with J?
  2. [2019/12/12 20:36] Darkefur Fraker: Meh! Don't bother.
  3. [2019/12/12 20:36] Kuroi (kuroistralous): How come?
  4. [2019/12/12 20:37] Darkefur Fraker: Because then you'll just get mired in the drama, too.
  5. [2019/12/12 20:37] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I believe it to be relevant since I am an officer, my rough understanding is that somehow Fero was involved in this too when I got a quick rundown
  6. [2019/12/12 20:39] Darkefur Fraker: Let me ask you this first. From what you see...do you think Fero is pretty much at the center of MOST RPs there, and that people seem to get ignored or have to wait while her stuff gets taken care of?
  7. [2019/12/12 20:39] Darkefur Fraker: And that there's people there that seem to ONLY RP with her and ignore others?
  8. [2019/12/12 20:40] Darkefur Fraker: I ask you this because you stand around a lot waiting for your own RP. Okay. You cna answer. I know I type fast and speak a lot.
  9. [2019/12/12 20:40] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, let me think here. I know Fero is around alot, so by proxy that means there's many many chances for Fero to get involved. I've seen a bit from Sabrina the other day when Marx was doing whatever with fero. I know there was a big scene... ohhh what was it.... lemme think here
  10. [2019/12/12 20:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): A few weeks ago? It was J, suraya, hydl, lehik.... I think another guard into that
  11. [2019/12/12 20:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I've seen Leif around quite a bti
  12. [2019/12/12 20:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): *bit
  13. [2019/12/12 20:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): And Soen does what he does bouncing around
  14. [2019/12/12 20:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I just think Fero is probably pro-active in seeking lots of RP
  15. [2019/12/12 20:42] Darkefur Fraker: So you agree she seems to be in MANY while others don't get much at all?
  16. [2019/12/12 20:42] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I suppose so?
  17. [2019/12/12 20:43] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I've never really looked that far into it
  18. [2019/12/12 20:43] Darkefur Fraker: Yes, well, she, me, HYdL, Z, JALS and even Marx had a big talk with her about that some weeks ago. And she promised to ease up and back off and let others have chances.
  19. [2019/12/12 20:44] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So like... wait is that a rule or something?
  20. [2019/12/12 20:45] Darkefur Fraker: It's complicated. In a way it is. Like I said, it's a mire mess of drama.
  21. [2019/12/12 20:45] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I'm more concerned about what the rules say and don't say
  22. [2019/12/12 20:46] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Okay so, some weeks ago, how many weeks was that btw?
  23. [2019/12/12 20:47] Darkefur Fraker: Like I said...it's complicated.
  24. [2019/12/12 20:47] Kuroi (kuroistralous): What was the time though when everyone came in and talked to fero or was this like a gradual thing?
  25. [2019/12/12 20:47] Darkefur Fraker: It was less than a month.
  26. [2019/12/12 20:47] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So would you say like, 3 weeks?
  27. [2019/12/12 20:48] Darkefur Fraker: Give or take.
  28. [2019/12/12 20:48] Kuroi (kuroistralous): (I just want to have an idea in my head compared to what I've seen fero doing/notdoing)
  29. [2019/12/12 20:48] Kuroi (kuroistralous): And you know for a fact that these weren't scenes or things Fero had planned with other people?
  30. [2019/12/12 20:50] Darkefur Fraker: Well...thats's part of the point. When many of us have to sit around waiting for people to RP with becuase others are busy doing her pre-planned stuff...or doing what she asks them OOCly...makes it pretty hard for the rest of us to get any RP in. Because it cuts down o nthe availabel people to RP with, don't it?
  31. [2019/12/12 20:50] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So, how many people is she planning these RPs with then, do you have any kind of number?
  32. [2019/12/12 20:50] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Or specific examples or things like that?
  33. [2019/12/12 20:51] Darkefur Fraker: Well...for example just take the other night. You know BG. A muzzled inmate. You worry about them getting food. What do you do?
  34. [2019/12/12 20:51] Darkefur Fraker: From a medic standpoint.
  35. [2019/12/12 20:52] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Ideally, make sure they have some kind of nourishment. But I know there is still a pecking order from the guards that medics cannot cross no matter what, unless it's in medical itself
  36. [2019/12/12 20:53] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I also know there's certain rules regarding inmates muzzled by guards
  37. [2019/12/12 20:53] Darkefur Fraker: So...you want them to eat. Give them liquid meals like I drink ICly? Or show favoritism and complete disregard for the regs and cut off a muzzle right in the mess hall? I mean...if you wanted...you'd take them to medical where your word has authority over guards, right?
  38. [2019/12/12 20:54] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, first part, yeah, make sure they have some kind of meals. And, if I wanted to get in IC trouble yeah I could do that, but at the same point I would probably IM the person and ask something like hey, are you actually wanting to get this muzzle removed to start with
  39. [2019/12/12 20:55] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Also I would ask the circumstances to which it was put on
  40. [2019/12/12 20:55] Darkefur Fraker: Yeah. But now...it's Fero and Collins. COllins does anythign Fero asks..or even doesn't ask but wants anyway. So now...you got a guard who's staff collared brekaing the regs of a captain. And a medic doing the same. SO it pretty much FORCES someone to adress it.
  41. [2019/12/12 20:56] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Okay, so, collins removed a muzzle from Fero that wasn't suppose to?
  42. [2019/12/12 20:57] Darkefur Fraker: This is why I said it's complicated. This is only an example. But yeah...think on it. Instant gratification. Fero gets her RP done right then and there. Any other person would be lucky to FIND a medic willign to do that. Or wait days for it, or wait days for the guard to take the muzzle off.
  43. [2019/12/12 20:58] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I want to focus on the muzzle thing firstly. You said it's an example, did this ACTUALLY happen though?
  44. [2019/12/12 21:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): In terms of Collins taking a muzzle of fero
  45. [2019/12/12 21:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): *off
  46. [2019/12/12 21:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Ack, no I had that right
  47. [2019/12/12 21:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): *of
  48. [2019/12/12 21:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): ACKKKK nevermind
  49. [2019/12/12 21:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): In terms of Collins taking a muzzle off fero
  50. [2019/12/12 21:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): There we go
  51. [2019/12/12 21:00] Darkefur Fraker: Yeah, it happened. And when Marx came back, even though he had hinted he was plannign to do naughty things with me before he left earlier...he was forced to deal with them instead. So...although I WAS leashed...I was pretty much a bystander while he dealt with that. My RP gets put by the wayside. Feros takes priority. We see this again and again. Everyone else has to wait...Fero gets her stuff dealt with right away. If it ain't actually someone else doing it, it's a few of her particular people who seem to only RP with her and not many others if anybody else at all.
  52. [2019/12/12 21:01] Kuroi (kuroistralous): When did this happen?
  53. [2019/12/12 21:02] Darkefur Fraker: This is only an example of what seems to happen a lot. Fero always at the center, others get left out. And that's the big talk we had. and when it happened agian...and someone ELSE complained ot me about it I wnted ot relay it to her tonight that it seems like it's happening again.
  54. [2019/12/12 21:03] Kuroi (kuroistralous): When did this collins un-muzzling fero happened and marx was made to invervene?
  55. [2019/12/12 21:03] Darkefur Fraker: Last night.
  56. [2019/12/12 21:03] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I need to know when that about happened
  57. [2019/12/12 21:03] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Ok
  58. [2019/12/12 21:03] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So like, did Marx have to re-muzzle fero then or?
  59. [2019/12/12 21:04] Darkefur Fraker: You're focusing too much on one thing thta's only an example of the general problem.
  60. [2019/12/12 21:04] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I want to have all my ducks in a row before I go poking around, I want everything clear first before I can move on to the next
  61. [2019/12/12 21:04] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So I can talk to fero and/or Marx properly
  62. [2019/12/12 21:04] Kuroi (kuroistralous): The more details the better
  63. [2019/12/12 21:07] Darkefur Fraker: Honestly I don't even know why I bother. I mean..let Fero have her clique and monopolize RPs. I'll jst go to Red Rock like SO many others have feling the same way I do. And that OTHERS do. Because I only IMed Fero wanting to talk about it because ANOTHER of our friends felt like not even bothering to shwo up anymore because...always left out in the cold.
  64. [2019/12/12 21:08] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, like I said. Details, I need them. I guess I'll have to ask Marx about that part then to figure out what happened
  65. [2019/12/12 21:08] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Are you sure too btw this wasn't some kind of make-up thing Marx gave to Fero since I know the two were messing around some nights ago and Marx went AFK for a long time on fero?
  66. [2019/12/12 21:08] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Like a rain-check?
  67. [2019/12/12 21:09] Darkefur Fraker: That is JUTS an example!
  68. [2019/12/12 21:09] Kuroi (kuroistralous): But you said it happened, right?
  69. [2019/12/12 21:10] Darkefur Fraker: Why?
  70. [2019/12/12 21:11] Kuroi (kuroistralous): What do you mean why?
  71. [2019/12/12 21:12] Darkefur Fraker: Why bother being at BG? I mean...if one person or small clique of people are always tying others up to do their RP, pre-planned or forcing them to deal with them being trouble....and none of many of the rest of us can get any of OUR storylines going for weeks, months..and from what I've heard from one person...years....WHy not just leave? Go somewhere else?
  72. [2019/12/12 21:13] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I'm not so sure it's that black and blue
  73. [2019/12/12 21:13] Darkefur Fraker: I mean...take you. Say you come on. And nobody is in the commons. Or just one person you generally hang out with. Because everyone else is either chased off...or busy doing someothign with the same one person all the time...would you want to be there?
  74. [2019/12/12 21:14] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, to be honest, most of the time I just like to stand around and watch peoples' RP and be here if they need a medic. I know if I IMed people and talked to them, I could work some kind of a scene or roleplay out
  75. [2019/12/12 21:15] Kuroi (kuroistralous): In fact Sabrina was just talking to me shortly ago
  76. [2019/12/12 21:16] Darkefur Fraker: But...like I said...you have limited time. Yet this person is on all day (I presume) already having RPs with others. Yet...still want more. Have IMed nad asked people to do stuff with them BEFORE you even get a chance?
  77. [2019/12/12 21:17] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Just because Fero or someone else has IMed someone asking for RP doesn't for one automatically mean they said yes, nor does it mean that fero themselves will tie them up all day. Truth be told, it could be a case of that person doesn't see many other potential options and decides "Hey, I'll go with it, I've got nothing else to do, no one else has IMed me about anything"
  78. [2019/12/12 21:18] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I've IMed people that are doing RPs and they'll find a cut-off point with their current one and make time with me before
  79. [2019/12/12 21:19] Darkefur Fraker: My issue is...that sort of cuts out opportunites for OTHERS to do RP with them, right? If all we can hope for is IMing someone and asking 'wanna do something' and hope they say yes. WHy bother having a BG? WHy not just ditch the station and do it all in group chat?
  80. [2019/12/12 21:20] Darkefur Fraker: Especially when it's one person getting so much RP and everyone else...not.
  81. [2019/12/12 21:20] Kuroi (kuroistralous): You can jump into RP session if they're out here in the public. Just as long as it's of course not something like white-knighting
  82. [2019/12/12 21:21] Darkefur Fraker: EH, maybe it's just me. I would say so...if I didn't have other people telling me they feel the same way.
  83. [2019/12/12 21:21] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Who else feels that way?
  84. [2019/12/12 21:22] Darkefur Fraker: Well, okay. Let's take that example agian. Last night and the night before. Night before...MArx beat and raped Shiva. Last night...MArx had to deal with her taking off her muzzle and COllins cutting it off.
  85. [2019/12/12 21:22] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Who else feels that way, Darke? I just need some names of people
  86. [2019/12/12 21:23] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I understand the picture I just need to know who else is involved now
  87. [2019/12/12 21:23] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Or needs to be, rather
  88. [2019/12/12 21:23] Darkefur Fraker: NO. I'm no longer naming names. Last times I did that when I complaied...those people aren't at BG anymore. Having gotten harrased and ostracized out.
  89. [2019/12/12 21:24] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I can't take your word then that there is other people.
  90. [2019/12/12 21:24] Darkefur Fraker: And yet...I have to take word that I get 'complaints' about me from officers.
  91. [2019/12/12 21:24] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Who said complaints?
  92. [2019/12/12 21:25] Darkefur Fraker: Sorry. Diverged there. But yeah. That's what I got everytime I was 'talked to'. The officer claiming vague 'complaints' with no examples or names.
  93. [2019/12/12 21:25] Kuroi (kuroistralous): You do have a little bit of a nasty streak, Darke, you go after things and people pretty hard with not a lot of room to compromise
  94. [2019/12/12 21:26] Darkefur Fraker: I know. And I have been trying on that. and this ALL was because I asked to speak to Fero OOCly when she had time tongiht. SHe wanted to do it in IMs. I just wanted to let her know thta some of us were feelign that way again. That it seems like we're all unable to get stuff going because people are always dealign with her stuff ICly.
  95. [2019/12/12 21:27] Kuroi (kuroistralous): You guys are more than welcome to ask for a mediator if you need something like that
  96. [2019/12/12 21:27] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I'd be happy to help with something like that
  97. [2019/12/12 21:28] Darkefur Fraker: Honestly...we did that last time...and didn't help. So...I think I give up.
  98. [2019/12/12 21:28] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Who was that?
  99. [2019/12/12 21:28] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Was it an officer?
  100. [2019/12/12 21:28] Darkefur Fraker: JALS.
  101. [2019/12/12 21:28] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Aaahhh
  102. [2019/12/12 21:30] Darkefur Fraker: Here's the thing. If I DO have an OOC thing nad am discussing it OOC wiht Fero....it's between us, right? Unless we request a mediator.
  103. [2019/12/12 21:31] Kuroi (kuroistralous): There are still some limits I would suggest you stick you
  104. [2019/12/12 21:31] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Or anyone for that matter
  105. [2019/12/12 21:31] Kuroi (kuroistralous): *stick to
  106. [2019/12/12 21:31] Darkefur Fraker: Yeah, but like now...we're talkign OOC, right? I know you're lookign at it like an officer. But...we're still of differing viewpoints a bit.
  107. [2019/12/12 21:32] Kuroi (kuroistralous): As I would expect, everyone is different
  108. [2019/12/12 21:32] Darkefur Fraker: So WHy anytime I DO talk with Fero over OOC concerns about stuff...I get harassed by others of her friends?
  109. [2019/12/12 21:32] Kuroi (kuroistralous): But, we've not turned this into a shouting match, we're not lashing out at each other
  110. [2019/12/12 21:32] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Do you have proof of this? Names? Logs?
  111. [2019/12/12 21:33] Darkefur Fraker: It's in IMs so yeah..I got names and logs.
  112. [2019/12/12 21:33] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Okay, I would appreciate some of those so I could have a conversation with Fero sometime and what they said
  113. [2019/12/12 21:33] Kuroi (kuroistralous): At some point or another
  114. [2019/12/12 21:33] Darkefur Fraker: Well...tongiht it was JALS. Good luck on that.
  115. [2019/12/12 21:34] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I'll get elaboration on that when I can. That's rather bold to say it was harassment
  116. [2019/12/12 21:34] Kuroi (kuroistralous): But I'll scrape up what I can and take a look
  117. [2019/12/12 21:34] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Is there someone else?
  118. [2019/12/12 21:36] Darkefur Fraker: Juts forget it. Seriously..I'm at the 'why bother anymore' feeling. nad if I feel this way...I'm pretty sure others do, too.
  119. [2019/12/12 21:36] Darkefur Fraker: SIcne I'm such a vocal one about my feelings. Imagine those that AREN'T so vocal. :/
  120. [2019/12/12 21:36] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Sometimes you're a little too vocal though Darke
  121. [2019/12/12 21:37] Darkefur Fraker: I know that. And I've tried to correct that.
  122. [2019/12/12 21:37] Kuroi (kuroistralous): There are some kind of last points I want to make though before I get ready for bed
  123. [2019/12/12 21:37] Darkefur Fraker: Seriously...dont' even bother. Because no matter what I say or do or anything...I'll be the one blamed. Because I have in the past.
  124. [2019/12/12 21:38] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, they were going to be some things for you to look out. I asked J about that thing you mentioned with Marx bailing on you. Turns out, he's gunning for Fero's character. Why I'm not sure, but it smells strongly of meta-gaming
  125. [2019/12/12 21:40] Darkefur Fraker: Not meta-gaming. It's just ore of that pre-planned stuff.
  126. [2019/12/12 21:40] Kuroi (kuroistralous): It wasn't planned though
  127. [2019/12/12 21:40] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Fero didn't know Marx was gunning for him or anything and Marx admitted to it
  128. [2019/12/12 21:40] Darkefur Fraker: Oh please!
  129. [2019/12/12 21:41] Darkefur Fraker: Fero has said ICly AND OOCly that Marx is out to get SHiva ICly.
  130. [2019/12/12 21:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): When did he say that?
  131. [2019/12/12 21:41] Darkefur Fraker: SHe's said it many, many, MANY times ICly.
  132. [2019/12/12 21:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): What was the most recent time?
  133. [2019/12/12 21:41] Kuroi (kuroistralous): before last night?
  134. [2019/12/12 21:42] Darkefur Fraker: I think she may have even mentioned it last night ICly, yes.
  135. [2019/12/12 21:42] Darkefur Fraker: After COllins took off her muzzle.
  136. [2019/12/12 21:42] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Before last night though
  137. [2019/12/12 21:42] Darkefur Fraker: Oh, LOTS!
  138. [2019/12/12 21:42] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Any time or day you can mention?
  139. [2019/12/12 21:42] Darkefur Fraker: She's been saying Marx has been out to get her ever sicne she became a guard.
  140. [2019/12/12 21:42] Darkefur Fraker: This is ICly out to get er, not OOCly.
  141. [2019/12/12 21:43] Darkefur Fraker: ICly Captian MArx is out ot get Shiva.
  142. [2019/12/12 21:43] Darkefur Fraker: SO it's clear what I mean.
  143. [2019/12/12 21:43] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Yeah yeah. Okay, so I do kind of remember that. Marx has had a peculiar fascination with Shiva
  144. [2019/12/12 21:43] Kuroi (kuroistralous): But, I don't think he's ever bailed on someone pre-emptively before
  145. [2019/12/12 21:43] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Then again, I've not known Marx to be reliable for RP, so I don't know
  146. [2019/12/12 21:44] Kuroi (kuroistralous): He's about as reliable as amtrack's trains
  147. [2019/12/12 21:46] Darkefur Fraker: I'm not blaming Marx at all. I'm not even REALLY blaming Fero. All I fell is...that because she gets SO much...she needs to stop worrying and trying to get people to do her RPs. Just free-form it more. You know. Go along wiht what happens. And importantly...to shoo away those people who seem to focus SO much on RPing wiht her to go RP with others more.
  148. [2019/12/12 21:47] Kuroi (kuroistralous): That latter seems rather... difficult, and unfair to Fero
  149. [2019/12/12 21:47] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Reeling back, okay maybe, but actively shooing? That's seems a bit much
  150. [2019/12/12 21:49] Darkefur Fraker: Well...let's take me. I'm usually on sya...what? 3 hours or less a night, right? Same with HYdL.
  151. [2019/12/12 21:49] Darkefur Fraker: That mean I got those 3 hours to not only try and get something going but also hopefully make an ending so I'm not leaving i nthe middle of RP.
  152. [2019/12/12 21:49] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Darke, I can guarantee you, that unless there was something external involving like friction or bad chemistry, no one here has ever shooed away someone to encourage them to RP with others.
  153. [2019/12/12 21:50] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So that's extremely unrealistic
  154. [2019/12/12 21:50] Darkefur Fraker: Actually..I have. In IMs. Or stepped away myself toallow them to RP more personally with someone.
  155. [2019/12/12 21:51] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I don't think anyone else ever has then
  156. [2019/12/12 21:52] Darkefur Fraker: Maybe I'm just more courteous.
  157. [2019/12/12 21:52] Darkefur Fraker: I dunno.
  158. [2019/12/12 21:53] Kuroi (kuroistralous): No, I just think you have a different definition of what you believe is right or something of that nature
  159. [2019/12/12 21:53] Darkefur Fraker: I knw me and HydL hang out a lot so I know we do it with each other. Either stepping away, or ICly or OOCly shooing the other off to be with someone else.
  160. [2019/12/12 21:53] Kuroi (kuroistralous): It's the different between people that put themselves before others, and people who put others before themselves
  161. [2019/12/12 21:53] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, you're friends, so that's a little different
  162. [2019/12/12 21:53] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I've done that with J before but I don't count that
  163. [2019/12/12 21:54] Darkefur Fraker: Eh, well, maybe it is just my own personality. hard o belive I'm so courteous. Maybe thta's why I'm such a bitch. I want others to do what I do. :/
  164. [2019/12/12 21:54] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Not all of what you do is right though, you need to realize that
  165. [2019/12/12 21:54] Darkefur Fraker: I know that.
  166. [2019/12/12 21:54] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Okay
  167. [2019/12/12 21:55] Kuroi (kuroistralous): As long as you are self-aware of that
  168. [2019/12/12 21:55] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I think you found a highlight of something to address though with that
  169. [2019/12/12 21:56] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Also, one note, when Fero has been RPing with people, have you ever IMed him and asked if you could have a turn with that person or do something with them and cut in?
  170. [2019/12/12 21:56] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Fero doesn't strike me as the person to say no or be rude
  171. [2019/12/12 21:59] Darkefur Fraker: SOme. But not recently. Because...usually what I get is 'this is something we had planned'.
  172. [2019/12/12 21:59] Darkefur Fraker: Because...you know..fight stuff. Gotta ask so it's not white-knighting.
  173. [2019/12/12 21:59] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So, I think with the recent talking fero had and that he'll reel back, maybe give it another whirl. Or ask the person if you can do something with them. Or if you want to all do something
  174. [2019/12/12 22:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Just gotta make an attempt doing 1 thing different
  175. [2019/12/12 22:00] Darkefur Fraker: I know. Keep my trap shut.
  176. [2019/12/12 22:00] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I more of was referring to poking and asking, not coming off as aggressive or something like that
  177. [2019/12/12 22:01] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Try that out, see what kind of responses come, work with that, and we'll make adjustments
  178. [2019/12/12 22:01] Darkefur Fraker: Well, I have been IMing people a lot, beign flirty. Not aggressive in getting RP. Just...you know...playfully testing the waters. And IMing newbs a lot trying to make them feel welcome.
  179. [2019/12/12 22:01] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Oh good!
  180. [2019/12/12 22:02] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Keep that up, and if you had something planned or wanting to do with someone, ask them, IM them
  181. [2019/12/12 22:02] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Especially if they're doing something with another person, there's absolutely no harm in asking
  182. [2019/12/12 22:02] Kuroi (kuroistralous): And at that point, it becomes responsibility if that individual
  183. [2019/12/12 22:02] Kuroi (kuroistralous): *of
  184. [2019/12/12 22:02] Darkefur Fraker: I may just give BG a miss for a while until this latest junk dies down. Because although it should've only been between me and Fero...somehow JALS, you, and someone else got dragged in. :/
  185. [2019/12/12 22:03] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Do whatever you feel like you need to do
  186. [2019/12/12 22:03] Kuroi (kuroistralous): But coming back, that's what I would suggest trying out
  187. [2019/12/12 22:03] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Sound possible?
  188. [2019/12/12 22:04] Darkefur Fraker: We'll see.
  189. [2019/12/12 22:04] Kuroi (kuroistralous): It can't hurt Darke.
  190. [2019/12/12 22:04] Kuroi (kuroistralous): A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step
  191. [2019/12/12 22:06] Darkefur Fraker: I don't even knwo WHY this caused drama. I mean...it seriusly WAS just me wanting to have a little OOC chat with Fero. And it gets turned into drama.
  192. [2019/12/12 22:07] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, let's just looks at the past few points, and try to focus on that. Give it a few days to cool, try some new things out, then go from there
  193. [2019/12/12 22:07] Kuroi (kuroistralous): It happened, it became what it did, there's no changing that, let's look ahead now
  194. [2019/12/12 22:08] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I'll still be asking Fero about a few things but for the most part we gotta push ahead now
  195. [2019/12/12 22:08] Darkefur Fraker: Honestly..I went over to Red Rock tonight to relaly check out their rules and stuff thinking of going there instead.
  196. [2019/12/12 22:08] Kuroi (kuroistralous): You may see me there, I've thought about applying
  197. [2019/12/12 22:09] Darkefur Fraker: And didn't like what I saw. Not about rules, but...about who awas there and how many. It's so many of hte people that I always felt got neglected at BG. :(
  198. [2019/12/12 22:09] Kuroi (kuroistralous): /me nods
  199. [2019/12/12 22:09] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Well, regardless, I hope you figure out what choice you want to make, and if it is to be back here, I hope you'll consider what I told you
  200. [2019/12/12 22:11] Darkefur Fraker: I think too much RL stress just helped make me worse tonight. But really...I was only tryng ot talk OOC with Fero friendly. WHen you got a captian IMing out of hte blue going 'whatever you're doing, stop it' it's not really conduscive to freindly discussion. Because that means the person you WERE Iming with was bitching trying to get you in trouble.
  201. [2019/12/12 22:11] Darkefur Fraker: But oh well.
  202. [2019/12/12 22:12] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Things happen Fero, for all you know J had a bad day too and has RL stress as well
  203. [2019/12/12 22:12] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Err Darke
  204. [2019/12/12 22:12] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I read Fero when typing that sorry xD
  205. [2019/12/12 22:12] Darkefur Fraker: No, it's okay. Iknow what you meant. I'm used to myself and others doing the wrong name ICly in RP oftne enough. And I typo myself a ton.
  206. [2019/12/12 22:13] Kuroi (kuroistralous): But yeah, J could very well be in the same situation as you with RL stress and whatnot, or something happened and Fero freaked out, I don't know, we don't know not without looking more
  207. [2019/12/12 22:13] Kuroi (kuroistralous): So, I think it's best to place it down for now, and try to improve, we'll work it out from there
  208. [2019/12/12 22:14] Darkefur Fraker: Yeah, well.sicne you're close with J...apologize ot him for me. I know we got into it...agian..tonight. And I didnt' want to. :( If anything the only one I shoulda been arguing with was Fero. Not him.
  209. [2019/12/12 22:14] Kuroi (kuroistralous): I'll pass it along. I gotta catch some Zs for not though Darke, I'm pretty sleepy
  210. [2019/12/12 22:14] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Don't forget what we've discussed though, I want you to consider it
  211. [2019/12/12 22:14] Darkefur Fraker: Yeah, I'm on super late, too. But I wasn't just gonna leave you.
  212. [2019/12/12 22:14] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Nah it's all good
  213. [2019/12/12 22:15] Kuroi (kuroistralous): Hope you have a good tomorrow, take care Darke
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