Oct 12 11:07:47 <+Paper> [1646] <Xyzzy> Rofl is a faggot; say xyzzy is going on xd.
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Oct 12 11:08:45 <%ravagetalon> he's not allowed to say "cigarette" in british english?
Oct 12 11:08:49 »» %ravagetalon runs
Oct 12 11:10:16 <%ravagetalon> or apprently "faggot" is a kind of meatball, and "fag" is a cigarette.
Oct 12 11:11:48 <%dho> no, faggot is still a bundle of sticks, and the shortening to fag is still the abbreviation of that and it's still offensive
Oct 12 11:11:55 <%dho> on that note
Oct 12 11:11:55 <@Grinnz_> LOL xkcd
Oct 12 11:12:00 »» %dho is not watching destiny anymore
Oct 12 11:12:36 <%ravagetalon> as a unit of measure its a bundle of sticks.
Oct 12 11:12:47 <%dho> it's not a unit of measure
Oct 12 11:12:55 <%dho>  it's a generic term for a bundle of sticks used for firewood
Oct 12 11:13:13 <%ravagetalon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(unit)
Oct 12 11:13:16 <%ravagetalon> well
Oct 12 11:13:20 <%ravagetalon> archaic anyway
Oct 12 11:13:28 <@Grinnz_> .verb dho
Oct 12 11:13:29 »» %zomg studys dho seldom with a windy trail
Oct 12 11:13:38 <%ravagetalon> "see also Microsoft"
Oct 12 11:13:39 <%ravagetalon> LOL
Oct 12 11:13:40 <%dho> fail.
Oct 12 11:13:51 <@Grinnz_> LOL
Oct 12 11:14:00 <%dho> ravagetalon: that article is entirely bullshit
Oct 12 11:14:10 <%ravagetalon> I know it is
Oct 12 11:14:20 <%ravagetalon> but that See Also section is hilarious.
Oct 12 11:14:33 <%dho> no, it isn't
Oct 12 11:14:38 <@Grinnz_> dont be such a poopy pants
Oct 12 11:14:49 <%dho> don't be such an enabler of shitty words
Oct 12 11:15:06 <@Grinnz_> words are words
Oct 12 11:15:09 <@Grinnz_> get over it
Oct 12 11:15:23 <%dho> Excuse me?
Oct 12 11:15:46 <%dho> I'd like you to go down to castro st in san francisco shouting faggot and see what happens
Oct 12 11:15:50 <%dho> words are not just words
Oct 12 11:15:55 <%dho> they have meaning carried with them
Oct 12 11:16:00 <%dho> which is how we communicate
Oct 12 11:16:09 <%ravagetalon> ~quote words
Oct 12 11:16:10 <+Paper> [2303] <Xyzzy> Sticks and stones will brake your bonds, but words will be buying prong, and smooth criminal. (2/2)
Oct 12 11:16:23 <%dho> if they were devoid of meaning, you could just string them together to make nonsensical, retarded bullshit
Oct 12 11:16:25 <%dho> just like xyzzy
Oct 12 11:16:30 <@Grinnz_> yes, and fag has lots of meanings unrelated to homosexual people that are understood by people on the internet that i am communicating with
Oct 12 11:17:03 <%dho> if you call someone a fag and mean it in a derogatory manner, no, it does not have an unrelated meaning.
Oct 12 11:17:09 <@Grinnz_> that's your opinion
Oct 12 11:17:27 <%dho> that's not an opinion, that's you disregarding the etymology of the word and the profoundity of it
Oct 12 11:17:30 <@Grinnz_> it's related by history
Oct 12 11:17:47 <%ravagetalon> hey I have an idea
Oct 12 11:17:53 <%ravagetalon> y'all shut the fuck up and move on.
Oct 12 11:17:59 <%dho> fuck off mike
Oct 12 11:18:00 <%ravagetalon> don't say fag
Oct 12 11:18:03 <@Grinnz_> you choose to continue to associate it when the people using the word clearly do not
Oct 12 11:18:03 <%ravagetalon> end of story
Oct 12 11:18:20 <@Grinnz_> and if they do, they're hateful pricks
Oct 12 11:18:26 <%dho> Grinnz_: colloquialisms don't just work that way
Oct 12 11:19:05 Grinnz Grinnz_
Oct 12 11:19:07 <%ravagetalon> !verb Grinnz_
Oct 12 11:19:08 »» %zomg books Grinnz_ softly with a hissing brain
Oct 12 11:19:11 <@Grinnz_> so you're saying everyone on the internet who uses the term fag in a derogatory sense specifically and consciously? is comparing the person to a homosexual?
Oct 12 11:19:12 <%dho> Grinnz_: these sorts of things are explicitly *not* protected by free speech rights in the US
Oct 12 11:19:17 <%ravagetalon> you got booked, son.
Oct 12 11:19:27 <@Grinnz_> because if so i completely disagree
Oct 12 11:19:32 <%dho> it is hate speech
Oct 12 11:19:39 <%dho> and that is illegal
Oct 12 11:19:49 <%dho> and i am not addressing your question with that, i was making a separate point.
Oct 12 11:19:51 <@Grinnz_> i explicitly don't give a shit
Oct 12 11:20:08 <%dho> Grinnz_: then you're ignorant and stupid
Oct 12 11:20:14 <@Grinnz_> saying shit on the radio is illegal too, and i think that's also retarded
Oct 12 11:20:16 <%dho> destiny made this same argument yesterday about 'nigger'
Oct 12 11:20:46 <%dho> do you agree with that?
Oct 12 11:20:58 <%ravagetalon> "Nigger" these days is stupid in how its considered offensive simply based on who says it.
Oct 12 11:21:09 <@Grinnz_> nigger is much more closely associated with the racism aspect, it would be difficult to use it in a context that didn't invoke that
Oct 12 11:21:11 <%dho> "I fucking hate these nigger marauders"
Oct 12 11:21:30 <@Grinnz_> fag on the other hand has basically been used to death in such contexts
Oct 12 11:21:33 <%ravagetalon> white man says "nigger", white man is racist. Black man says it, Black man is just greeting his friends.
Oct 12 11:21:40 <%dho> Grinnz_: How is fag less closely associated with homosexuality and the atrocities committed against gays in the witch burning eras?
Oct 12 11:21:44 <%ravagetalon> How is THAT not the stupidest thing ever?
Oct 12 11:21:46 <@Grinnz_> because it is
Oct 12 11:21:59 <%dho> because you choose not to make that association
Oct 12 11:22:05 <%dho> because you were ignorant to the etymology most of your life
Oct 12 11:22:08 <@Grinnz_> so does everyone else who is using it
Oct 12 11:22:32 <@Grinnz_> the ten year old calling you a fag over call of duty is not preaching hate against homosexuals
Oct 12 11:22:48 <%ravagetalon> ten year olds don't know any better
Oct 12 11:22:57 <%dho> ravagetalon: I sure as fuck did
Oct 12 11:23:00 <@Grinnz_> okay, the thirty year old who is
Oct 12 11:23:05 <%dho> Grinnz: the 23 year old saying he hates these 'nigger marauders' isn't preaching hate against black people
Oct 12 11:23:14 <%ravagetalon> dho: correction: Most ten year olds these days do not know any better
Oct 12 11:23:14 <%dho> does that make it ok?
Oct 12 11:23:29 <@Grinnz_> sure but it's still going to make people think he is
Oct 12 11:23:50 <%dho> Ok, so we should all just say derogatory words like that all the time until they stop being derogatory
Oct 12 11:23:53 <%dho> I get it.
Oct 12 11:24:09 <%dho> The ten year old calling you a fag in CoD does it because he knows it's fucking awful to call someone that
Oct 12 11:24:12 <%dho> he doesn't know why it is
Oct 12 11:24:20 <%dho> but he knows that it's a really shitty thing to be called.
Oct 12 11:24:25 <%dho> *BECAUSE* it is offensive
Oct 12 11:24:39 <@Grinnz_> and it's offensive because you say it is
Oct 12 11:25:08 <%ravagetalon> I decree that "Grinnz" is the most offensive word ever.
Oct 12 11:25:12 <%ravagetalon> you stupid Grinnz
Oct 12 11:25:16 <%ravagetalon> etc etc
Oct 12 11:25:17 <%dho> no, it's offensive because by the derogatory definition, it means that gay people are classified on the same order as sticks that should be burned
Oct 12 11:25:19 <@Grinnz_> don't be a grinnz
Oct 12 11:25:33 <@Grinnz_> and nobody gives a shit about that anymore dho
Oct 12 11:25:42 <%ravagetalon> uhh
Oct 12 11:25:44 <%dho> that's the most false thing i've heard in quite some time
Oct 12 11:25:48 <%ravagetalon> plenty of people give a shit, dan
Oct 12 11:26:05 <%ravagetalon> Tyler Clemente wants a word with you.
Oct 12 11:26:12 <%dho> don't project your ignorance and complacency on to others
Oct 12 11:26:44 <%dho> you choose to use a word that is highly inflammatory that TONS of people find offensive because you don't give a flying fuck about offending people
Oct 12 11:26:53 <%dho> that attitude doesn't get you far
Oct 12 11:26:55 <%ravagetalon> Oh wait, he killed himself people assholes using words like fag and whatnot.
Oct 12 11:26:57 <@Grinnz_> if i am using the word fag
Oct 12 11:27:01 <@Grinnz_> then the intent is probably to offend people
Oct 12 11:27:08 <%ravagetalon> s/people/because/
Oct 12 11:27:13 <%dho> then you're a fucking insensitive prick
Oct 12 11:27:16 <@Grinnz_> seriously?
Oct 12 11:27:16 <%ravagetalon> holy shit... brain-finger misfire.
Oct 12 11:27:23 <@Grinnz_> he sounds like a dumbass
Oct 12 11:27:36 <%dho> .....
Oct 12 11:27:41 <@Grinnz_> only because of words?
Oct 12 11:27:47 <%ravagetalon> words
Oct 12 11:27:48 <%dho> Grinnz_: I hope you fucking die
Oct 12 11:27:49 <%ravagetalon> ridicule
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