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- Skytea - 06/17/2017
- yo here is new discord link for V
- ill give you guild friend for now, let me know if you want to play with us for real and i can rank you up
- June 18, 2017
- Skytea - 06/18/2017
- dont understand why you want to cause drama and post screens of our messages right after i invited you :/
- Bogul - 06/18/2017
- I always took it that you respected me. But once i saw the chat there i can only imagine what is going on in private channels. If you look back I never wanted to kick you out, but to the contrary held my hand into the fire for you on quite a few occasions. With kaasje and shozen what I did was trying to start a conversation that went bad, because appareantly everyone sucks at expressing their viewpoint. Now you chose the wrong words at a wrong time publicly. And on top you dont even stand up for me against peek or luci. This means you either agree with their view or tolerate it which is both unacceptable for me.
- Skytea - 06/18/2017
- It's both ways man I've been gettign the feeling that you have never respected me or had my back. When you brought shozen/kaasje and I in a chat a few months ago, towards the end of the chat when I proclaimed that I will be leading Vendetta on release you instantly said that you won't be part of Vendetta anymore which suprised me. Then it became clear to me and looks like that you always wanted me out and tried to manipulate me into giving the guild away to you/shozen/kaasje so you can officially cut me out. If you made that convo to try to mediate without any ulterior motives you would have never proclaimed that you will be leaving Vendetta right after I announced I won't be leaving the guildmaster role. Ever since that convo I lost respect for you guys but I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and let you guys join again for release since you guys played with us for so long but it seems you don't even want to do that because of airing dirty laundry and causing drama.
- Bogul - 06/18/2017
- Let's do this right because I don't want this to end with a misunderstanding. My statement in the private chat was related to you saying you won't support anything I do right at that point, which I took as I shouldn't bother trying to do anything before you came back.
- And during most of the conversation with shozen and kaasje I tried to mediate and I didn't have any own agenda
- Once I saw where the conversation had gone I tried to express that I will focus on my own plans instead of pushing for V which you didn't want me to do. But I wanted to do something which then lead to me spending all this time on the website and podcast.
- I have always had your back and prevented you from being voted out or publicly accused of inacitivy and thus removal at least 2-3 times.
- I do not support all of the statements made by shozen and kaasje, but I felt like you guys were to mad to talk further at that point to try to add more to the conversation. I probably should have. I was pretty sad it came to this split after all the time.
- Skytea - 06/18/2017
- That screenshot you posted wasn't even towards you it was towards rosalia/kaasje/shozen hence the reason why I pmed you for invite instead of them
- Bogul - 06/18/2017
- Well it has no context.
- Skytea - 06/18/2017
- thats what i was about to say
- why do you even think i was slandering you
- You are trying to make it seem i abandoned you but the door was always open for you to rejoin
- But posting the screen basically means you don't support the New Vendetta since you tried to get us bad rep in public. There are other people from different guilds in that chat
- Bogul - 06/18/2017
- I know that, but when I get trolled by peek and you guys relentlessly I need to make a stand.
- I don't support Vendetta losing the image we created over time, but with peek in charge and me than stumbling into the whole leadership making fun of me and Vendetta
- It has pretty bad optics anyway for anyone entering(edited)
- And if you go after my reputation I will fight back.
- As I see it: I held back and tried to be as diplomatic as possible. You offered me to hang out, but the first thing I see is you guys making fun of me and V. Thus why would you want me to hang out if I only have to endure more of this trolling, very likely towards me.
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