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jynx vs egg discussion

Jun 23rd, 2020
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  1. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  2. and why is blizz t1 a big throw? (1-(95/512*0.9))*(1-(0.1*0.9))*3/4= 56% chance he even hits sleep and it's a free 50%+ dmg
  3. Amaranth20/06/2020
  4. blizz t1 is a big throw because you have a ridiculously advantageous lead match up
  5. you don't want to give him 56% to hit sleep when it's the only chance to hit sleep he's ever going to get
  6. basically you take a fat risk for no reason
  7. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  8. i guess but its only an 80% chance i hit sleep before he does idk
  9. Amaranth20/06/2020
  10. that is
  11. a pretty massive difference in odds
  12. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  13. i know it is
  14. Amaranth20/06/2020
  15. 80% of hitting sleep vs 44%
  16. when you click blizz
  17. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  18. but
  19. the chance to ohko egg seems
  20. like quite a nice upside lol
  21. Amaranth20/06/2020
  22. bruh
  23. you have a GIGANTIC lead if you just click lovely kiss
  24. why do you look for a way to toss it t1
  25. you're ahead as soon as the leads come out
  26. dont be greedy
  27. thats the sort of play you make if you're two mons down
  28. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  29. i guess just the damage seems nice lol
  30. Amaranth20/06/2020
  31. and you need to come back
  32. its not the sort of play you make when you're very very advantaged
  33. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  34. idk just 50%+ on egg with the ability to sleep later with gar sounded better to me than sleep an egg at full and accomplishing not much else idk
  35. Amaranth20/06/2020
  36. ok but
  37. you cockblock his sleep
  38. permanently
  39. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  40. well he presumably has
  41. sing chans back
  42. Amaranth20/06/2020
  43. you go a full mon up
  44. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  45. or something
  46. to support the egg
  47. Amaranth20/06/2020
  48. no, that's not a good assumption
  49. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  50. otherwise he should just go starmie to absorb
  51. Amaranth20/06/2020
  52. sleep leads often dont have backup
  53. if he goes starmie you still prefer to LK heavily
  54. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  55. yeah thats true
  56. but given that he stayed in
  57. i assume he has sing chans
  58. giving up ur sleeper for free t1 seems a waste
  59. if ur lead is a sleeper dont let it get slept if u have no backup ._.
  60. rby 101
  61. Amaranth20/06/2020
  62. right right
  63. but LK is still much better on mie
  64. on any switch really
  65. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  66. so either i get a big hit on egg and jynx gets slept
  67. or i sleep egg and then get slept afterwards by sing chans
  68. idk i prefer the first one cos i have good odds for advancing the gamestate even further in my favour
  69. whereas the latter one is kinda neutral, i get the advantage of getting off a couple blizzes on chansey or something which is nice
  70. i mean i can see the argument for saying lk turn 1 just i think theres an argument for the opposite too
  71. Amaranth20/06/2020
  72. i think
  73. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  74. wouldnt call it a throw
  75. Amaranth20/06/2020
  76. when you have a jynx v eggy match up
  77. and you give him a 56% to somehow come out on top
  78. that is a big throw
  79. no other way to think about it imo
  80. its a super winning match up
  81. you really have no reason to greed out
  82. Disaster Area20/06/2020
  83. i guess
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