[9:56 PM] FreezinIce: undecided
[9:57 PM] Celirra: this does not count
[9:57 PM] Celirra: but ty
[9:59 PM] FreezinIce: :rolling_eyes:
[9:59 PM] FreezinIce: do you want my vote that i would cast as of now but havnt actually cast yet and could easily change?
[10:00 PM] Celirra: yeah
[10:00 PM] FreezinIce: because im watching a fluid situation involving a few of my scumleans unfold
[10:00 PM] FreezinIce: ok
[10:00 PM] FreezinIce: WV
[10:00 PM] Celirra: cheers luv
[10:34 PM] FreezinIce: well, i had something biting ready to post but i took a step back and thought about it. and its closer than i first thought. for me they are both under the level of null, but have no strong feelings or convictions attached to them (like haku and to a lesser extentent jrodd). I mean that could be wolfy by itself but im not willing to metagame myself that hard.

Tforce i liked his interaction with me yesterday, however hes been kind of pandery in pm with me and hes not really playing very strong under pressure. Neee is a carryover from yesterday when i sus'd him for his convo with jrodd and the way he was kind of hands off and discussing lynch order. but on the other hand hes not here atm and im not sure as a wolf he would cold out. Plus it feels a little forced and might be paranoia
[10:35 PM] FreezinIce: so short answer is iono i guess. after revisiting all the info i dont fuking knowwww
[10:36 PM] Celirra: I appreciate this, thank you
[10:36 PM] FreezinIce: i want my haku lynch to be a thing but im not sure its what needs to happen right now
[10:55 PM] Celirra: will discuss this tomorrow more
[10:55 PM] Celirra: re: haku
[10:56 PM] FreezinIce: k
[11:18 PM] Celirra: was the tforce vote because you were convinced he was wolf
[11:18 PM] FreezinIce: no
[11:18 PM] Celirra: or because there was no better person on the table
[11:18 PM] FreezinIce: yes
[11:18 PM] Celirra: relative to neee or relative to anyone aside from haku
[11:18 PM] FreezinIce: relative to neee
[11:18 PM] Celirra: what's your stance on neeee now
[11:19 PM] FreezinIce: first reaction is T/T
[11:19 PM] FreezinIce: him not being here and becoming a wagon, and almost dying?
[11:19 PM] FreezinIce: as a wolf
[11:20 PM] FreezinIce: iono
[11:20 PM] FreezinIce: it didnt see like it was T/W
[11:20 PM] FreezinIce: i would expected a bigger and easier shift, sunfan had to solicit for tforce to die p much
[11:20 PM] FreezinIce: and it was still close
[11:35 PM] Celirra: I actually kinda
[11:35 PM] Celirra: see where you're coming from
[11:35 PM] Celirra: but there were some votes that were unknown it seemed
[11:35 PM] Celirra: eg: wv
[11:35 PM] Celirra: sunfan, post 705: wagon on trevor is me, jrodd, dbp, freezin soundwave and neee
wagon on neee is cel, trevor, haku, wv, star
[11:36 PM] Celirra: he didnt know wv was on tforce
[11:36 PM] Celirra: presumably it's safe to say wolves didnt either then
[11:36 PM] Celirra: if that were to be the case
[11:36 PM] Celirra: they thought they needed you due to that
[11:36 PM] Celirra: which is why he pushed for you to swap
[11:37 PM] FreezinIce: oh
[11:37 PM] Celirra: thats kinda why I was reluctant to say who voted who
[11:37 PM] Celirra: so it would be hard for wolves to know who they needed to convince
[11:38 PM] Celirra: given votes by:
tforce - sound
star - neee
haku - neee
dbp - jrodd
jrodd - tforce
freezin - wv
wv - jrodd
sunfan - tforce
soundwave - tforce
cel - neee

wave 2:
jrodd - tforce
tforce - neee
sound - tforce
sunfan - tforce
wv - neee
star - neee
haku - neee
dbp - neee
cel - neee
[11:38 PM] Celirra: for record
[11:38 PM] FreezinIce: whats the timestamp
[11:38 PM] FreezinIce: on the sunfan vc
[11:38 PM] Celirra: 4min before eod
[11:38 PM] FreezinIce: hm
[11:38 PM] Celirra: presumably he didnt need to care about wv
[11:38 PM] Celirra: because they had their 6
[11:38 PM] Celirra: they* not he
[11:39 PM] Celirra: presumably is a poor word but that's my stance
[11:39 PM] FreezinIce: trying to wrap my mind around this, this doesnt implicate sunfan does it
[11:39 PM] Celirra: I don't know
[11:39 PM] Celirra: I really need to think about this
[11:39 PM] Celirra: I dont even know if it implicates neee
[11:40 PM] FreezinIce: hopefully not cause i want my tell to still work
[11:40 PM] FreezinIce: my gut says hes town
[11:40 PM] FreezinIce: but iono
[11:40 PM] Celirra: My deep gut says wolf
[11:40 PM] FreezinIce: i have a lot to think about too
[11:40 PM] Celirra: my shallow gut says town
[11:40 PM] Celirra: logic says he's a badly playing town
[11:40 PM] FreezinIce: 2 guts
[11:40 PM] FreezinIce: im jelly
[11:40 PM] Celirra: last time logic said that he was wolf in the end
[11:40 PM] Celirra: which is why deep gut says wolf
[11:41 PM] FreezinIce: hm
[11:41 PM] FreezinIce: gonna have to go over tforces reads later
[11:41 PM] FreezinIce: he put sunfan as top scum which is ? for a gut read
[11:41 PM] FreezinIce: wait
[11:41 PM] Celirra: tforce despite being town I dont think can have much credence
[11:41 PM] FreezinIce: sunfan isnt even on his list
[11:41 PM] Celirra: same with all our kills
[11:42 PM] Celirra: which is why I hated all our kills
[11:42 PM] Celirra: they didnt do jack shit
[11:42 PM] FreezinIce: lol
[11:42 PM] Celirra: but thats hindsight
[11:42 PM] Celirra: and in the moment I was feeling the ffa so I can't complain about that
[11:42 PM] Celirra: anyways
[11:42 PM] Celirra: pls read thread
[11:42 PM] Celirra: and respond to my post
[11:42 PM] Celirra: cheers luv
[11:43 PM] FreezinIce: i will tomorrow, gnight