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The Hero-King's Tale

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  1. [4:10 PM] Somebody: __Cipher S01: Proof of the True Hero-King__
  2. "In Cipher, it's the soul that matters."
  3. The Regional Cipher Tournament has begun! Various players of Fire Emblem Cipher from around the region will gather to see who is worthy of being named the region's Champion.
  4. When amateur duelist Minato turns out to have been signed into the tournament in place of long-running local tourney winner and his older sister Minako, he has no choice but to participate. Champions, set! Begin battle!
  5. [4:13 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: So things to note. Because this is Season 1, MC is following his heart and using ~~Blaster Blade~~ I mean, Marth. Having it be based around a mix up of one syllable is appropriate per season form.
  6. [4:14 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Wait is that real
  7. [4:14 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: oh
  8. [4:14 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: :thonking:
  9. [4:14 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Is that a P3 reference
  10. [4:14 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: I couldn't tell you. Here's the question though - is Minato an Aichi or a Yugi?
  11. [4:15 PM] Somebody: No, I was thinking up a name, and that one came up as something that could easily be mistaken for another one.
  12. [4:15 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: You, accidently, hit on a P3 reference lmao
  13. [4:15 PM] Somebody: Or, well, be "accidentally" written.
  14. [4:15 PM] Somebody: Amazing.
  15. [4:17 PM] Somebody: I would say Yugi, as he'd rather not be in the spotlight.
  16. [4:19 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: I can see that. This is a guy who has kind of been letting himself fall into his elder sister's shadow, lacks confidence.
  17. [4:20 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: It takes a tournament environment to push his Cipher Soul to the end of the line!
  18. [4:20 PM] Somebody: Yeah!
  19. [4:22 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: On that note, does his Sister use Lucina for the whole 'this is my version of Marth', or is her deck more or less just a better Red banner?
  20. [4:23 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Shouldn't she use a good deck
  21. [4:23 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: :Smugcian:
  22. [4:23 PM] Wolt: ^
  23. [4:24 PM] Somebody: She's a Marth user, as well. I was considering that, because it technically would be her that should be dueling, she gives Minato her deck.
  24. [4:25 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: "Git gud"(edited)
  25. [4:25 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: God Set1 meta bas fucking plain af :thonking:
  26. [4:26 PM] Somebody: Thought about putting Set 1+2 in for S01, then 3+4 for S02.
  27. [4:28 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: I see the logic behind Minako being like 'Hey li'l bro, take this deck!' but it throws the worth of any win he has in the tournament into question, (which can be a thing for later episodes if it feels card gamey enough). 'I didn't win this, it was my sister's deck guiding me at every turn.'
  28. [4:28 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: ZP doesn't seem to show any regrats :thanking:
  29. [4:29 PM] Somebody: He could gradually customize it- wow jru- as the show progresses on, though then again, a lot of people use the same decks.
  30. [4:29 PM] Somebody: Then AGAIN, they also apply their own spins, their own variations.
  31. [4:30 PM] Wolt: Taking a netdeck and winning isn't a bad thing.
  32. [4:30 PM] Wolt: But it could demonstrate his uncomfortableness with the playstyle
  33. [4:30 PM] Somebody: inb4 show has a message for people to not netdeck so hard
  34. [4:31 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: If anything
  35. [4:31 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Cipher is teh game in which peiople netdeck teh less
  36. [4:31 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Chile and a few outlies here aside
  37. [4:31 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: You extremely often see variatoins
  38. [4:33 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: I get that. There's two sets to work with, Minato finds what he likes and doesn't like and turns what started off as his Sister's deck into his own. What starts off as a sort of Pharaoh or Astral presence gradually becomes just him, his playstyle.
  39. [4:33 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: You and your cardgame animus :thonking:
  40. [4:33 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: They are how I got into card games, ayy.
  41. [4:34 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: I mean, I got into yugioh for like a year, and then noticed the game was shit
  42. [4:34 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Didn't even spend a peny I jsut played the DS games
  43. [4:35 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: I think I started with the 2004 championship game? GBA or something. I found what I enjoyed in that game and casually went to locals.
  44. [4:36 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: I rememebr my brother playing the GBA ones
  45. [4:36 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: I didnt' understand teh game then
  46. [4:36 PM] Somebody: I had Stairway to the Destined Duel.
  47. [4:36 PM] Somebody: I still have it.
  48. [4:36 PM] Somebody: I also played 20...12 WC?
  49. [4:37 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: Stairway to the Destined Duel was it! Secret Cards and the Dice monsters game were both just ehhh. 2012 is... Stardust? Has a racing minigameg?
  50. [4:37 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: Over the Nexus, boy was I off
  51. [4:39 PM] Somebody: Bah, yeah, it was the one before, with the racing and all.
  52. [4:39 PM] Somebody: That was fun.
  53. [4:39 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: It honestly sucked
  54. [4:39 PM] Somebody: I will admit that.
  55. [4:40 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: it was trying to do too much honestly
  56. [4:40 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: then they made the Wii game which was... a thing
  57. [4:42 PM] Somebody: They put one out for Wii? Hot damn.
  58. [4:42 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Yeahracing with your deck being items
  59. [4:42 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: You could cheese it super hard
  60. [4:43 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: Wheelie Breakers wasn't something I touched, but it was definitely a thing.
  61. [4:43 PM] Somebody: Hella.
  62. [4:44 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: going back a bit, who even would be the main rival for S1?
  63. [4:45 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: I mean is it even a question, where you there for Set1
  64. [4:45 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: no
  65. [4:45 PM] Somebody: ... Damn, I was gonna- Well-known/feared/revered duelist with a Lissa deck.
  66. [4:45 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: In et1, there was literally only two real decks
  67. [4:45 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: And Lisa
  68. [4:46 PM] Somebody: This is mostly why I wanna add in Set 2 for variety, but then that means I'd have to put Set 3 and 4 in, and that could harm ~reception~.
  69. [4:46 PM] Somebody: ... Set 3+4 for S02, I mean.
  70. [4:51 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: Only two decks? Jeez. You could do season two being Set 2 and 3, because then it sets up 'Hey, these are dual colored decks' with Rev's set. But that won't change the issue of S1 being either samey or really, really bad.
  71. [4:52 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: S1 was bi colored
  72. [4:52 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: It's jsut that marth and Inigo where the only real MCs
  73. [4:52 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: With Lissa doing her thing on the side and some jank ass Minervas
  74. [4:52 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: And every so often Chrom lucksacked Cordelia Combo early when it orta matters
  75. [4:52 PM] Somebody: Cordy Combo, UGH.
  76. [4:53 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: wait hold on, you mean when Fro-yo showed me an Inigo deck, that was... meta?
  77. [4:53 PM] Somebody: GET IT OUTTA- it was once
  78. [4:53 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Yes
  79. [4:53 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: becaue there was taht much nothing going on in the game
  80. [4:54 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: That's... wow. Okay then, color me surprised.
  81. [4:54 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: There is a reason
  82. [4:54 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Femui was allowed
  83. [4:55 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: It was a bad reason, but a reason nontheless
  84. [4:55 PM] Somebody: Heh, color.
  85. [4:57 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: so unless that's how you want the duels to be, you could divorce the anime from how sets were released. but that sounds like it's more trouble than it's worth to fake your own expansions, or make really bizzare anime-rules.
  86. [4:57 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Or a shitton of jank ass shit decks
  87. [4:58 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Like in reality
  88. [4:58 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Like 90%of the yugiohanime was makign shit up
  89. [4:58 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: So that was a legit idea I had, making a bunch of Morikawa guys. 'This is my PURE FIGHTER DECK, my turn is unbeatable!'
  90. [4:58 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: 'look at all of these ATK emblems!'
  91. [4:58 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: And 70% of the reason 5DS worked so well was because it was at least 60% anime bullshit
  92. [4:59 PM] Somebody: "Class Change!" "noooooooooooooooooooo"
  93. [4:59 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: Yes,I woprded that to sound that dumb in purpose you smartass
  94. [4:59 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: What about dem Knight MCs
  95. [4:59 PM] Somebody: dear god not draug
  96. [4:59 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: 'Doga will choke this point'
  97. [4:59 PM] Somebody: stop yourself
  98. [5:00 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: ***DOGA DOGA DOGA DOGA DOGA DOGA***
  99. [5:00 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: this also means the main heroine is going to use a Caeda deck right
  100. [5:00 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: 'Go, my final attack! Wing Spear!'
  101. [5:00 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: http://shaym.in/fe1/lp/vXbYi.png
  102. [5:01 PM] Somebody: Lucina was gonna be it, but having someone use a "search for the good stuff" MC sounds good.
  103. [5:02 PM] Somebody: ~~Merricman was a fraud.~~
  104. [5:02 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: !addemote Doga http://shaym.in/fe1/lp/vXbYi.png
  105. [5:02 PM] BOTDankbot: @Salt Emperor, Jariu, Emote successfully added: Doga!
  106. [5:04 PM] DeltanTheDramatic: It's mostly for the whole 'hey guys remember how Marth and Caeda are destined to be?'
  107. [5:05 PM] Salt Emperor, Jariu: get a better writer
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