Issue #107961   Reported by: Rokas    Re: Glijije
2019-09-22 10:25:44:
During a raid, I used ritual avalanche to force people out of the room to stop raiders from defiling our
monument. The file HELP SECT RITUALS ARYANA clearly states "- Everyone inside gets pushed out". The effect,
however, was that I was removed while the raiders were not. They continued to defile the monument despite my
warnings that they should not have been allowed in the room, and their choice to remain, in my mind, constitutes
willful bug abuse. Not only were they warned, but they have used this very same tactic against us on multiple
occasions, meaning that they knew how it should work and still chose to continue defiling.
--[Reply]--
2019-09-22 10:38:18:
During the raid, Rokas did indeed tell me (first via shouting or yelling, and then with tells, that we should
leave the room due to him dropping avalanche and there being a bug. Here's the thing: Rokas has given me no
reason to trust him. I did not have time to review what was happening because he has used the threat of issue in
previous raids to get people to do what he wants. For example, there was a raid in which he was bountied and a
known defender and when people tried to attack him, he threatened to issue to get them to stop attacking. People
did not realize that he was bountied and the threat was unjust (he had no right to issue when bountied) and they
stopped attacking him which allowed him time to recover and gave him valuable time to stop the raid. I do not
trust Rokas, because he lies about things and I will not stop a raid based on his word. I am uncertain of what I
would have done if the claim had come from someone other than Rokas. I think I would have engaged them in a
civilized verbal exchange (if they were somone capable of it) but ultimately, I think bugs should be determined
after raids, not during. And ideally, by administration, not players. Thank you for your time.
H:637 M:452 <eb> showissue 107962
Issue #107962   Reported by: Rokas    Re: Ruga
2019-09-22 10:25:47:
During a raid, I used ritual avalanche to force people out of the room to stop raiders from defiling our
monument. The file HELP SECT RITUALS ARYANA clearly states "- Everyone inside gets pushed out". The effect,
however, was that I was removed while the raiders were not. They continued to defile the monument despite my
warnings that they should not have been allowed in the room, and their choice to remain, in my mind, constitutes
willful bug abuse. Not only were they warned, but they have used this very same tactic against us on multiple
occasions, meaning that they knew how it should work and still chose to continue defiling.
--[Reply]--
2019-09-22 10:28:32:
If this was the case then ALL raids would ALWAYS be stopped, He clearly did not do it correctly and already
avalanched the entrance to ithaqua before it started. If you can avalanche and push ALL enemies out of the room
then ALL raids would be stopped no problem. This is NOT a bug abuse and this should NOT of been issued, I was NOT
going to stop raiding just cause he threatens to issue which he issues for EVERYTHING. He obviously did not do
something correctly and is mad for NO reason at all. Thank you this issue is pointless just like his other issue
against me.