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Josh vs Abe

Apr 7th, 2020
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  1. Abe Response 1
  2. - The feats linked for Composite Superman just aren't good, though it at least somewhat balanced by his unique abilities (weight, flight, mind reading)
  3. - Youpi established to have strength superior to Sonic, have counters to his mobility and an option for longer attack reach and greater attack speed. Stamina and an appreciated basic explanation of Nen are also covered. Youpi clearly seems to be the strongest member of the team
  4. - Damage scans are aight, not really the most convincing but it's a start
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  6. Josh Response 1
  7. - I'm just going to assume Josh's math is correct as Abe didn't really press him on it
  8. - Establishes Sonic can hit with the force of 0.5-ish tons of TNT, and with a scaling chain can hit much harder than that with the others
  9. - Flying Kick doesn't really fit into this scaling chain, but regardless it still hits harder than the basic homing attack
  10. - Dimension memery is just hype but I think everyone already knows that
  11. - Boost also counts as a speed boost
  12. - Stamina argument could use more solidly convincing scans
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  14. Abe Response 2
  15. - Ignoring Composite Superman and Damage was not the move my guy
  16. - Halfway there on the stamina argument; attacking the lack of proof was good, but the narrative and scaling argument was pretty weak and didn't make much sense
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  18. Josh Response 2
  19. - Starts giving scans for the stamina argument and brings up some strong evidence for Sonic being able to repeatedly use the homing attack, as well as bringing up the fact that
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  21. Abe Response 3
  22. - Still is arguing a losing battle about Sonic and almost completely ignoring his own characters
  23. - I don’t know what Neferpitou has to do with anyone in this conversation
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  25. Josh Response 3
  26. - Begins attacking Abe’s characters, which is convincing given there’s been no other real representation of them throughout the debate
  27. - Nothing else really matters at this point
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  29. Winner: Josh. There were a total of 3 sentences dedicated to establishing Composite Supes and Damage from Abe, as he instead got sucked into an argument about Sonic's stamina, mobility and strength, giving Josh plenty of opportunities to establish Sonic as a threat that would easily defeat Abe's team as portrayed.
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  31. OOT Requests
  32. - Youpi
  33. - As the feat turned out to be him just collapsing the floor and damaging the building, Youpi is in-tier.
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  35. - Sonic
  36. - Josh is right here, durability does not work like a video game health bar. Sonic as argued is in-tier
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