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  311. <!-- google_ad_section_start --> <p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 25px;">Charger module with TP4056 controller</span><br /> <br /> <a href="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0580.jpg"><img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0636.jpg" alt="DSC_0636" width="35%" /><br /> Click for larger picture</a><br /> <br /> This charger is a very small module for DIY people, it uses the TP4056 controller and standard configuration is with 1A charge current. It does not include any power supply or tray. It did not include any documentation either, just a couple of boards.<br /> The review is about a specific charger module, but any module with the TP4056 will have identical performance.</p><p style="text-align: left;"><br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0562.jpg" alt="DSC_0562" border="0" /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0563.jpg" alt="DSC_0563" border="0" /><br /> <br /> I got it in an envelope with 5 circuits on 2 boards and nothing else. The boards is precut and very easy to break apart.<br /> There is some documentation on the sellers ebay page.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0635.jpg" alt="DSC_0635" border="0" /><br /> <br /> A close study showed that there was a small difference between the size of the boards.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/annotation.jpg" alt="annotation" border="0" /><br /> <br /> The board needs a 5 volt power supply, this can either be from a mini usb connector or soldered directly to the board.<br /> The "current resistor" can be replaced for other (lower) charge currents, because it is a 0603 size smd resistor (i.e. very small) it can be difficult to replace it.<br /> On my boards I have a blue led for charging and a red led for done.<br /> <br /> The charge led will be on when charging and it will be flashing when no battery is connected.<br /> The done led will be on when charging is done or no battery is connected.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0564.jpg" alt="DSC_0564" border="0" /><br /> <br /> The backside of the board has some internal connections and the connections points are also accessible here.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0581.jpg" alt="DSC_0581" border="0" /><br /> <br /> The board is small, the battery is a AAA battery.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/supportedBatteryTypes.png" alt="supportedBatteryTypes" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/supportedBatterySizes.png" alt="supportedBatterySizes" border="0" /> <br /> <br /> With the mounted resistor the charger can handle larger batteries, but changing the resistor makes it to possible to charge smaller batteries.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 20px;">Measurements</span><br /> <br /> Below 2.85 volt the charger will charge with about 80mA in 1A configuration (blue led is on).<br /> Above 2.85 volt the charger is applying regular charge current (See curve below).<br /> When charger is disconnected from power, but with a battery in, it will draw below 1uA from the battery.<br /> When the charge current goes below the termination current the charging is stopped and it will charge with around 4 uA.<br /> The charger will restart charging when the cell drops to 4.0 volt.<br /> The charger will not restart after a power loss or battery insertion, except if the battery voltage is below 4.0 volt.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34).png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)" border="0" /><br /> <br /> First test is with a 3400mAh battery, the charger does a good CC/CV, except the change from CC to CV is a bit soft, this increase charge time but has no bad effect on the battery. The charger is also a bit below the 1A current, it only charges with 0.85A.<br /> The CV voltage is slightly below 4.2 volt, that is not surprising, because the datasheet for the TP4056 specify that it can be between 4.137 and 4.263 volt. This chip uses 1/10 of the charge current as termination current.<br /> I added a temperature measurement to the test this time, as can be seen the chip heats up fast and then slowly drops in temperature when the battery voltage increases.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%20Vusb=4.5V.png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%20Vusb=4.5V" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Reducing the supply voltage to 4.5 volt, increases the charge time and reduces the temperature, but the final voltage is slightly lower.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%20Vusb=5.5V.png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%20Vusb=5.5V" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Increasing the voltage does increase the temperature, but also reduces the current. When the chip gets to hot, it reduces the current.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%20Vusb=5.5V%20HS.png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%20Vusb=5.5V%20HS" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Here I have added a heatsink to keep the temperature down (Remember electric isolation between PCB and heatsink). It works very well, the temperature is lower than with 5.0 volt supply.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0609.jpg" alt="DSC_0609" border="0" /><br /> <br /> The heatsink was just a piece of aluminium under the board with some isolation between.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(AW16340-IMR).png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(AW16340-IMR)" border="0" /><br /> <br /> My old 16340 IMR cell is also charged without any problems.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 20px;">Modified resistor</span><br /> <br /> Replacing the standard 1.2 kohm resistor with a 2.157 kohm reduces the charge current to 470mA.<br /> The resistor is a 0603 SMD resistor, i.e. it is 1.6 x 0.8 mm.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/DSC_0637.jpg" alt="DSC_0637" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Here a 0603 resistor is placed next to an old style quarter watt resistor.<br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%200.5A.png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(PS18650-34)%200.5A" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Again the charger does a CC/CV charging, because the charge current is lower, the termination current is also lower.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(ET16340-750)%200.5A.png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(ET16340-750)%200.5A" border="0" /><br /> <br /> A 16340 battery is a more reasonable size to charge with 0.5A.<br /> <br /> Replacing the standard 1.2 kohm resistor with a 4.726 kohm reduces the charge current to 210mA.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://lygte-info.dk/pic/ChargerTP4056/ChargerTP4056%20(ET16340-750)%200.25A.png" alt="ChargerTP4056%20(ET16340-750)%200.25A" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Again I tested with a16340 battery and get a CC/CV curve.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 20px;">Conclusion</span><br /> <br /> The charger has a good CC/CV profile and can be adapted for many different charge configurations, for multichannel operation it is easy to use multiple board, for smaller batteries the resistor can be replaced. When used at 1A it might be a good idea to mount it on a small heatsink (Remember isolation), to avoid any slowdown in charging and keep the temperature down.<br /> I do not like that it is using a mini usb connector, a micro usb connector would have been better (That is the same as used on phones).<br /> I will call it a good charger for DIY projects.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 25px;">Notes</span><br /> <br /> I bought the module on ebay from "1984yht888" where it is called "5pcs Mini 5V USB Interface 1A Charging Board Module Charger For Lithium Battery"<br /> <br /> The temperature measurements is not the chip temperature and probably not even the surface temperature of the chip (I believe that the probe is affecting the measurement).<br /> <br /> Here is an explanation on how I did the above charge curves: <a href="http://lygte-info.dk/info/How%20do%20I%20test%20a%20charger%20UK.html">How do I test a charger</a><br /> </p> <!-- google_ad_section_end --> </div>
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  1108. <p>I have been using my four charger boards very successfully , powered by my 5V 4A switch-mode <span class="caps">PSU</span> &#8230; I have set the <span class="caps">PSU</span> voltage to a few mV below 5V and am very happy with the performance &#8230; My <span class="caps">PSU</span> has four <span class="caps">USB</span> sockets attatched and I have 50cm interconnect cables (<span class="caps">USB</span> to mini-<span class="caps">USB</span>) &#8230; I personally have no problem in using mini-<span class="caps">USB</span> connectors &#8230; For me it was just a simple matter of buying the right 50cm cables which are now kept in a box along with the charger boards , the <span class="caps">PSU</span> and the magnets.</p>
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  1112. <p>Can you suggest a better method of attatching a heatsink to the module or indeed to the chip itself ? &#8230; &#8230; I did try cooling with a small fan , but although it did cool the chip it didn&#8217;t seem to reduce the charging time significantly &#8230; I understand that these chips will tolerate a fairly high temperature so perhaps just a simple heatsink would be the way to go &#8230; My boards are used in a near vertical position with the <span class="caps">USB</span> at the top , so maybe there is a slightly better cooling airflow.</p>
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  2303. <p>I will use the double-sided tape to hold the aluminium heatsinks to the underside of the charger board &#8230; I hope this will give some reduction in chip temperature during the first part of the charge cycle &#8230; It certainly can&#8217;t do any harm.<br />
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  2501. Thanks <span class="caps">HKJ</span> &#8230; For £3-45 I can do all my four charger boards and still have one heatsink spare.</p>
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  2799. <p>I found that the normally available battery holders won&#8217;t accept protected 18650&#8217;s (which are actually 18700&#8217;s) &#8230; The easiest way is to use short leads (4&#8221;) fitted with croc-clips &#8230; The croc-clips will easily clip onto magnets &#8230; The magnets will &#8220;stick&#8221; to the battery &#8230; Easy !</p>
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