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  1. [19:03:48] * Meira_Takana disappears!
  2. [19:03:52] * Meira_Takana ([email protected]) has left #The_Lobby
  3. [19:03:53] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Masaaki was going to take Yuyuko, but Nue claimed she wanted Yuyu first, and we're in a state of limbo about the situation.
  4. [19:04:12] <Nitori_Kawashiro> And there's no proof, as far as can be seen, of Nue wanting Yuyuko before this publically.
  5. [19:04:43] <Nitori_Kawashiro> A few people suggested to just give Yuyu to Nue instead to prevent drama, but I don't want to see Masaaki feel victimized and get his work thrown away. :<
  6. [19:04:50] <Nitori_Kawashiro> He deserves a chance, basically.
  7. [19:04:56] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Don't you agree, Koikoi?
  8. [19:05:17] <Koishi_Komeiji> hmm
  9. [19:05:56] <Koishi_Komeiji> I'm going to side with masaaki but only because nue didn't make her thoughts public. However I don't think its fair to leave her high and dry either. I think I should talk to nue
  10. [19:06:11] <Sanae_Kochiya> It should be left to decision.
  11. [19:06:14] * mib_ib5u36 ([email protected]) has joined #The_Lobby
  12. [19:06:15] <Masaaki_Kagura> Nue is offline sleeping.
  13. [19:06:19] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Well, that goes without saying. After all, we need to get her side of the story.
  14. [19:06:23] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Later, when she's online, that is.
  15. [19:06:30] <mib_ib5u36> Koishi!!!
  16. [19:06:32] <Sanae_Kochiya> Whoever can do Yuyuko the best in a system of votes.
  17. [19:06:41] <Sanae_Kochiya> It's only fair the community decides.
  18. [19:06:42] * mib_ib5u36 is now known as Akemi_Hana
  19. [19:06:51] <Koishi_Komeiji> Masaaki is getting Yuyuko for the purposes of learning
  20. [19:07:05] <Koishi_Komeiji> thats why i'm a little conflicted
  21. [19:07:11] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Mhm. :/
  22. [19:07:23] <Nitori_Kawashiro> It's unfair to take away a possible chance to improve Masaaki. :<
  23. [19:07:26] <Koishi_Komeiji> Akemi_Hana could you wait in Touhou_ooc please? i'll be with you shortly
  24. [19:09:03] <Akemi_Hana> Ok
  25. [19:09:04] <Koishi_Komeiji> I know nue would pick up Yuyu faster. Especially the finer details, but yuyu is also one of the few characters not yet taken that would really help Masaaki
  26. [19:09:23] <Sanae_Kochiya> ..
  27. [19:09:35] <Sanae_Kochiya> There are a billion characters Masaaki could learn with.
  28. [19:09:46] <Sanae_Kochiya> It's a bit unfair that if someone genuinely wants to play Yuyuko
  29. [19:09:52] <Sanae_Kochiya> You deny them that
  30. [19:10:04] <Akemi_Hana> Yep
  31. [19:10:11] <Akemi_Hana> That's so wronh
  32. [19:10:13] <Nitori_Kawashiro> That's also a valid point, as well.
  33. [19:10:26] * &Shinaru_Sayuno ([email protected]) Quit (Connection reset by peer)
  34. [19:10:32] <Nitori_Kawashiro> I won't discount either side of the debate, but we still need to see what Nue thinks first.
  35. [19:10:39] <Koishi_Komeiji> Sanae no. no there aren't. I set this up with masaaki last week. I gave him a selection of characters. He picked Yuyuko
  36. [19:11:10] <Akemi_Hana> But Nue wants Yuyuko too
  37. [19:11:25] <Akemi_Hana> You should give it to her
  38. [19:11:27] <Koishi_Komeiji> akemi shush for a moment
  39. [19:12:06] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Akemi, we can't rush into this.
  40. [19:12:19] <Nitori_Kawashiro> We need to make sure this is fair for everyone, Masaaki included.
  41. [19:12:49] <Koishi_Komeiji> i don't want to sound rude but I do want to make a point that this doesn't involve you. It involves the mods and those who approve characters. Your opinion is valued but you don't actually have a say in the matter like that. I need to think about this carefully and make an educated descision
  42. [19:13:02] <Koishi_Komeiji> okay Akemi?
  43. [19:13:27] <Koishi_Komeiji> Its not about giving someone what they want just because they want it. there are many factors to weigh.
  44. [19:13:34] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Exactly.
  45. [19:14:10] <Nitori_Kawashiro> There needs to be quite a lot of thinking put into what all of this entails, and if it's not handled right, it could end badly for one or more people. :I
  46. [19:14:32] <Koishi_Komeiji> Masaaki is a narrower writer than some of the others here, but unlike a lot of them he's actually willing to take input into consideration and improve. I selected the characters I did because I knew they were still partially within his comfort zone while still forcing him to develop new skills.
  47. [19:14:36] <Akemi_Hana> I about to give a suggestion, but whatever
  48. [19:15:04] <Koishi_Komeiji> a suggestion is welcomed but don't demand we make one decision or another.
  49. [19:15:10] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Well, give your suggestion, Akemi. But bear in mind that this is a complicated issue.
  50. [19:15:38] <Nitori_Kawashiro> And yeah, like Koishi said. :o
  51. [19:15:39] <Akemi_Hana> How about we'll see who plays better Yuyuko?
  52. [19:15:58] <Nitori_Kawashiro> That's sort of a subjective issue here.
  53. [19:16:18] <Akemi_Hana> Oh.
  54. [19:16:20] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Besides, Masaaki is doing this as a learning experience.
  55. [19:16:25] <Koishi_Komeiji> Nue will. Right off the bat. Nue already has the skills to pick up Yuyu and play her without issue. Masaaki will need time and effort to develop the skills.
  56. [19:16:36] <Nitori_Kawashiro> He can't learn if he can't do it in the first place.
  57. [19:16:42] <Koishi_Komeiji> exactly.
  58. [19:16:43] <Akemi_Hana> Don't mind me then
  59. [19:16:50] <Nitori_Kawashiro> I feel there's a bias around here against Masaaki, honestly. :/
  60. [19:16:58] * Akemi_Hana shuts herself up
  61. [19:17:04] <Nitori_Kawashiro> He's not bad or anything, he just needs help. :<
  62. [19:17:31] <Koishi_Komeiji> I picked characters taht would challenge him. With some help he will improve and become a more dynamic writer
  63. [19:18:00] <Akemi_Hana> Now I feel I wanna get a canon now :<
  64. [19:18:11] <Koishi_Komeiji> The three I picked out for him were Orin, who is currently being apped, Yuyuko, and Kurumi
  65. [19:20:17] <Koishi_Komeiji> Each one was selected to help Masaaki develop a different set of skills. Something comfortable and challenging to play
  66. [19:20:17] <Akemi_Hana> I see
  67. [19:20:17] * Nitori_Kawashiro nods. :3
  68. [19:20:26] <Koishi_Komeiji> ... come on guys i feel like im discussing this with myself
  69. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> PC-98 not good
  70. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> It gives him too much freedom
  71. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> No skills are required with Kurumi
  72. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> She's a blank page
  73. [19:23:10] <Koishi_Komeiji> thats not true
  74. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> :L
  75. [19:20:17] <Akemi_Hana> I see
  76. [19:20:17] * Nitori_Kawashiro nods. :3
  77. [19:20:26] <Koishi_Komeiji> ... come on guys i feel like im discussing this with myself
  78. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> PC-98 not good
  79. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> It gives him too much freedom
  80. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> No skills are required with Kurumi
  81. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> She's a blank page
  82. [19:23:10] <Koishi_Komeiji> thats not true
  83. [19:23:10] <Sanae_Kochiya> :L
  84. [19:23:10] <Akemi_Hana> But I never though Maasaki was that clumsy RPer
  85. [19:23:10] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Well, everyone seems to disagree except Koifish, so I feel I'm not being listened to. :<
  86. [19:23:10] <Koishi_Komeiji> He is. (Sorry Masaaki) but he's also open to new ideas. Even if he's clumsy now he's getting better. Even in the short span i've known him.
  87. [19:24:15] <Nitori_Kawashiro> I agree that Masaaki won't improve if he's not challenged.
  88. [19:24:15] <Akemi_Hana> Hmm.
  89. [19:24:15] <Akemi_Hana> Now I wanna be schooled all of the sudden...
  90. [19:24:15] <Akemi_Hana> Well...
  91. [19:24:15] <Koishi_Komeiji> Masaaki has been here for awhile and proven that he's receptive to teahing and therefore worth schooling. Stick around and take criticism humbly and you'll get helped too. but I can only help one at a time.
  92. [19:24:33] <Akemi_Hana> Does Masaaki will get Yuyu afterwards
  93. [19:24:42] <Akemi_Hana> ?
  94. [19:25:06] <Akemi_Hana> Wait a minute....
  95. [19:25:09] <Koishi_Komeiji> It doesn't work that way. He already has an OC and Rinnosuke.
  96. [19:25:28] <Akemi_Hana> Nue wants Yuyuko? Now that's wierd
  97. [19:25:37] <Koishi_Komeiji> really its masaaki's receptiveness to learning and applying new things that makes me even consider this an issue. Otherwise I would simply turn yuyu over to nue.
  98. [19:26:00] <Sanae_Kochiya> But
  99. [19:26:06] <Akemi_Hana> I just thought something's not right
  100. [19:26:09] <Sanae_Kochiya> Does Masaaki want Yuyu as a long term thing
  101. [19:26:22] <Sanae_Kochiya> Will he be willing to put the devotion in you need for a chara
  102. [19:29:23] * Disconnected
  103. [19:29:29] * Attempting to rejoin channel #The_Lobby
  104. [19:29:29] * Rejoined channel #The_Lobby
  105. [19:29:29] * Topic is 'This is a channel where things regarding the community and other such matters are discussed.'
  106. [19:29:29] * Set by Kotohime on Sat Apr 20 16:09:01
  107. [19:29:50] <Akemi_Hana> In EoP, Nue IS ALSO Yuyuko
  108. [19:30:01] <Nitori_Kawashiro> So? This isn't EOP.
  109. [19:30:04] <Koishi_Komeiji> good for that person
  110. [19:30:11] <Akemi_Hana> I dunno
  111. [19:30:11] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Therefore, I don't think it matters here.
  112. [19:30:15] <Koishi_Komeiji> Akemi not everyone here is from EoP
  113. [19:30:15] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Not at all.
  114. [19:30:23] <Akemi_Hana> It feels mostalic
  115. [19:30:24] <Nitori_Kawashiro> And yeah, like Koi and I.
  116. [19:30:30] <Nitori_Kawashiro> We don't share that same feeling.
  117. [19:30:32] <Koishi_Komeiji> anything from EoP is irrelevant and shouldn't be brought into this conversation.
  118. [19:30:39] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Yes. :I
  119. [19:30:41] <Akemi_Hana> Oh well
  120. [19:30:42] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Let's keep it that way.
  121. [19:30:52] <Akemi_Hana> I hope I'm wrong
  122. [19:31:01] <Akemi_Hana> Koishi?
  123. [19:31:10] <Akemi_Hana> I wanna be schooled too.
  124. [19:31:33] <Akemi_Hana> please teach me how become better
  125. [19:32:01] <Koishi_Komeiji> Masaaki. You've put in a lot of work and research into this character, and i can see that you've learned a good bit by simply the work you put in. Someone is going to have to give up here. You are well within your bounds to say "I want yuyuko," however, would you be willing to take up Kurumi instead?
  126. [19:32:23] * Haiiro ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 241 seconds)
  127. [19:32:26] <Koishi_Komeiji> The focus will be different if you do but I know you will have just as much fun with her once you settle.
  128. [19:32:29] <Akemi_Hana> Kurumi?
  129. [19:32:39] <Akemi_Hana> She's nearly a blank page
  130. [19:32:48] <Koishi_Komeiji> theres more to her than you realize
  131. [19:33:05] <Koishi_Komeiji> you have to factor in more than her wiki page
  132. [19:33:07] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Mhm. :3
  133. [19:33:19] <Nitori_Kawashiro> There's a lot that can be gained from the blanks you can fill. :3
  134. [19:33:35] <Akemi_Hana> :3
  135. [19:33:40] <Koishi_Komeiji> She's more blank than Yuyuko, however, when you factor in her location, species, dialogue, and position you get a fairly solid character.
  136. [19:34:31] <Akemi_Hana> Almost a solid character
  137. [19:34:46] <Akemi_Hana> In my opinion
  138. [19:35:23] <Akemi_Hana> Well?
  139. [19:37:07] <Nitori_Kawashiro> Hmm.
  140. [19:37:17] <Koishi_Komeiji> I know thats a lot to ask Masaaki.
  141. [19:37:33] <Koishi_Komeiji> and i know its kinda scary trying to take a PC98
  142. [19:38:06] <Masaaki_Kagura> I mean I admit I had fun being Konngara, I just feel that everyone is against me for doing something I have worked on.
  143. [19:39:21] <Koishi_Komeiji> Don't hold or let go of yuyuko for those reasons. take a few moments and think about the characters. It's true you know yuyu better so I would ask you to look at Kurumi's potential
  144. [19:41:03] <Masaaki_Kagura> I mean, I just do not want to see an app I have worked so hard on be wasted.
  145. [19:41:20] <Masaaki_Kagura> But I will look at what I can.
  146. [19:41:29] <Masaaki_Kagura> Not a whole lot for Kurumi.
  147. [19:41:29] <Akemi_Hana> Hmm.
  148. [19:41:52] <Koishi_Komeiji> Things about Kurumi must be assumed from context rather than her official bio
  149. [19:42:53] <Akemi_Hana> Wait, how?
  150. [19:43:01] <Masaaki_Kagura> Welll personally, all vampires are snobs in my mind.
  151. [19:44:06] <Masaaki_Kagura> The think rather highly of themselves and let it go to their heads.
  152. [19:44:36] <Masaaki_Kagura> Plus you have showed me a lot about Remilia, and other vampire stuff as well.
  153. [19:45:10] <Koishi_Komeiji> The nature of vampirism and her role are things to factor in. Masaaki has an excellent grasp of how Kurumi is supposed to function. at least on that level. That is why I chose her as an option.
  154. [19:45:16] <Akemi_Hana> But I think Kurumi is different.
  155. [19:45:57] <Koishi_Komeiji> Akemi...
  156. [19:46:03] <Sanae_Kochiya> Well
  157. [19:46:12] <Sanae_Kochiya> I always saw Kurumi as a younger vampire
  158. [19:46:15] <Sanae_Kochiya> Who lived alone
  159. [19:46:23] <Sanae_Kochiya> And did things for herself.
  160. [19:46:40] <Sanae_Kochiya> She guards Yuuka's mansion in return for sustinence (the lake).
  161. [19:47:34] <Koishi_Komeiji> headcanon on a character like this is going to vary. If he picks Kurumi, the sheer fact I'm helping him is going to result in some of my headcanon spilling over into his character build.
  162. [19:47:52] <Sanae_Kochiya> Koishi
  163. [19:47:52] <Koishi_Komeiji> I am attempting to remain unbiased.
  164. [19:48:01] <Sanae_Kochiya> I tend to 'steal' people's headcanon.
  165. [19:48:03] <Sanae_Kochiya> For example
  166. [19:48:08] <Koishi_Komeiji> thats fine
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