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  1. Kirb R1
  2.  
  3. Yuta vs Etrigan
  4.  
  5. * Yuta's strength is visually better than Etrigan's
  6.  
  7. * Yuta scales above bullet timers
  8.  
  9. * Yuta can summon Rika as backup along with other Cursed Techniques
  10.  
  11. Ryu vs Saxton
  12.  
  13. * Ryu's feats are obviously better than Hale's
  14.  
  15. * Ryu's blasts are more than Hale can handle, especially at range
  16.  
  17. * Ryu is comparable to Yuta in speed
  18.  
  19. Kokushibu vs Kurono
  20.  
  21. * Kokushibu has good bullet timing feats along with scaling above other fast characters
  22.  
  23. * The speed scaling used for Kurono is suspect
  24.  
  25. * Kurono relies on his smoke sensing vibrations to dodge a possibly supersonic attack, spmething that won't work against Kokushibu
  26.  
  27. * Kurono can't piercing Kokushibu and can't overcome his regen
  28.  
  29. ***
  30.  
  31. Tad R1
  32.  
  33. Yuta vs Etrigan
  34.  
  35. * Rhyming is neat but the formatting is not
  36.  
  37. * Etrigan has good piercing and will rip opponents to shreds
  38.  
  39. * Etrigan wins any grappling match
  40.  
  41. * Etrigan hits hard and has hot heat
  42.  
  43. * Etrigan can cancel out magic and absorb magical blasts
  44.  
  45. * Etrigan has good piercing resist and endurance
  46.  
  47. Ryu vs Hale
  48.  
  49. * Hale hits hard
  50.  
  51. * Hale has good lifting and will win a grapple
  52.  
  53. * Hale is fast
  54.  
  55. * Hale is durable
  56.  
  57. * Ryu's blast have no speed and Hale moves fast
  58.  
  59. Kokushibu vs Kurono
  60.  
  61. * Kurono's speed is fine
  62.  
  63. * The smoke doesn't negate his speed feats
  64.  
  65. * Kokushibu slow because old guns
  66.  
  67. * Kurono has better mobility and range
  68.  
  69. * Smoke counters breathing techniques
  70.  
  71. * Kurono can pierce Kokushibu
  72.  
  73. ***
  74.  
  75. Kirb R2
  76.  
  77. Yuta vs Etrigan
  78.  
  79. * Cursed users have good heat and piercing resist
  80.  
  81. * Yuta's stats just outclass Etrigan
  82.  
  83. * Yuta can freeze Etrigan, bend his fire away, and regen
  84.  
  85. * Etrigan can't stop these as you can't just assume these are equivalent to DC magic
  86.  
  87. * If it did, Yuta could copy Etrigan's magic
  88.  
  89. Ryu vs Saxton
  90.  
  91. * The given scaling feats for Hale's strength aren't as good as described
  92.  
  93. * Nemesis was already the victim of tons of damage before Hale's feat against him
  94.  
  95. * Nemesis' skull was already damaged and was hit against its weakest point
  96.  
  97. * None of these feats are comparable to Ryu's durability feats
  98.  
  99. * Ryu scales above fast people
  100.  
  101. * Cursed energy increasing also increases speed
  102.  
  103. * The minigun feat is a huge antifeat
  104.  
  105. * Ryu's blasts are hard to avoid and Hale is hard pressed to close the distance while dodging them
  106.  
  107. Kokushibu vs Kurono
  108.  
  109. * Rengoku's speed feats are good and Rengoku<=Akaza<Kokushibu
  110.  
  111. * Guns during the time period that Demon Slayer takes place were supersonic and even if they were slightly slower, Kokushibu's speed feats are still good
  112.  
  113. * Koku's speed is demonstrably better than Kurono and Kurono's feat required forewarning
  114.  
  115. * Kurono can't cut Koku
  116.  
  117. * Koku would simply not breathe the smoke and can dispel it with his slashes
  118.  
  119. * Tad conceded that enhanced vision makes the smoke less effective and Koku has great vision
  120.  
  121. * Koku's vortex cannot be avoided by Kurono and are strong and plenty
  122.  
  123. ***
  124.  
  125. Tad R2
  126.  
  127. Yuta vs Etrigan
  128.  
  129. * Etrigan scaling good
  130.  
  131. * Etrigan can BFR
  132.  
  133. * Etrigan has good piercing resist and piercing
  134.  
  135. * Fire hurt and AOE
  136.  
  137. * Etrigan durable and strong
  138.  
  139. * Magic is the same (Kirbin isn't arguing his magic counter can work while Etrigan's can't, he's arguing even if magic=cursed technique's, he would still be advantaged)
  140.  
  141. Ryu vs Saxton
  142.  
  143. * Hale is strong
  144.  
  145. * Hale's scaling is fine
  146.  
  147. * Hale can BFR
  148.  
  149. * Hale wins a grapple
  150.  
  151. * Hale is durable and skilled
  152.  
  153. Kokushibu vs Kurono
  154.  
  155. * Shinra fast
  156.  
  157. * Tanjiro scaling isn't applicable
  158.  
  159. * Koku's speed
  160.  
  161. * Kurono strong
  162.  
  163. * Koku can't stop the smoke
  164.  
  165. ***
  166.  
  167. Judgements
  168.  
  169. Yuta vs Etrigan
  170.  
  171. Yuta wins. Tad fails to prove if Jujutsu Kaisen's Cursed Energy is equivalent to DC's magic, which leaves him vulnerable to Yuta's techniques. Tad mostly relies on scaling feats for Etrigan's physicals but as Kirbin shows, in the actual scans where he performs the feats, the collateral just isn't good. Yuta's physicals on the other hand is clearly good for the tier and he his most casual feats are still better than Etrigan. I also buy Kirbin's arguments for how Cursed Energy output works in improving resilience and speed. The Yuta feat is demonstrably good and even using rubber bullet speed, the Maki feat is still good considering the distance. Yuta operates at a higher speed than Etrigan while boasting greater physicals. Although, Tad does make a good point that Rika can't restrain Etrigan and would be torn apart, Yuta alone is enough to defeat him, considering his superior stats, regen, and Cursed Techniques.
  172.  
  173. Also, the rhyme scheme thing is cool, but the formatting is not worth it.
  174.  
  175. Ryu vs Saxton
  176.  
  177. Saxton wins. Saxton overall possesses numerous advantages over from his better skill and mobility along with his strong physical stats. I think Hale can close the gap fast enough while avoiding the blasts and as Tad shows, Ryu is willing to fist fight if called to one. I don't think a lot of the Hale scaling arguments were necessary, as they're more of a waste of space when he already has his own objective feats that are good enough. I think Kirb brings a good point on the minigun feat actually being an antifeat for Hale as he's unable to relevantly move out of the way in between the intervals of each bullet, but this is helped at least by how fast his singular punches are, which are a definite issue for Ryu in a fist fight. In a close quarter fight, Hale is advantaged from his endurance and techniques.
  178.  
  179. Kokushibu vs Kurono
  180.  
  181. Kokushibu wins. Kokushibu's bullet timing feat is demonstrably good, and his speed scaling is icing on the cake. Kokushibu possesses strong piercing, range, durability, and regen. I think the Tanjiro scaling Kirb provides is fine. While Tad makes a valiant effort, Kirb shows that Kokushibu is clearly above the level of the Hashira and he shows it's not a stretch for the piercing of the strongest characters to be above the first feat in the enitre series. Ignoring the piercing resist, Tad doesn't really argue a way to get past the regen and his reliance to feel out strikes through his smokes leaves him heavily vulnerable to Kokushibu's vortex. Kurono's lack of relevant piercing resist means he'd be instantly bisected by these attacks.
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