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  1. [7:12:12 PM] *** Nick Gatzoulis would like to add you on Skype
  2.  
  3. Please add me as a contact ***
  4. [7:23:53 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Please accept my request
  5. [9:51:08 PM] Stinger: Hello
  6. [9:51:16 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Hello
  7. [9:52:16 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: May I attach the conversation I had with Crowley?
  8. [9:52:19 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Regarding my issue?
  9. [9:52:21 PM] Stinger: sure
  10. [9:52:33 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Alright, thanks for the reply but may I just let you know of my problem? It may not really need an advanced answer.
  11.  
  12. Despite eWhoring in the past for AGC, I tried to followed the eBook, I registered on TextNow to get a US number. I got semi-nude pictures and then I went on Backpage. My first thought was to go to United Kingdom section and post there.
  13.  
  14. However, I realized that UK people cannot really send messages to my US number. Then I decided to go to the United States section of Backpage but to my surprise, there was no 'Adults > Escorts' section in any US city.
  15.  
  16. So pretty much, in a few words, I cannot get to work the method. I used my real connection, tried through VPN but still, the US cities in Backpage lack 'Adult' section and I cannot use the method in UK cities because of US number.
  17.  
  18. I would like to ask you, as per your refund warranty, if there is a chance to request for a refund. I know this may sound skiddish and me screwing you but I am not and here's what I am offering in good faith:
  19.  
  20. I would, in good faith, post a fully featured positive review of your eBook as well as wear a signature for a couple of months for free and try to make 50-60 posts in eWhoring section to attract customers to you.
  21.  
  22. Finally, I would like to apologize for any inconvenience caused. Please let me know if we can come to a mutual agreement. :)
  23. [9:52:42 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: My profile is: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3379308
  24. [9:52:57 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I bought the eBook with this email: nikosgkatzoulis@gmail.com
  25. [9:54:17 PM] Stinger: Hey mate there is a very simple fix for this :P
  26. [9:54:23 PM] Stinger: You use other sites such as craigslist etc
  27. [9:54:27 PM] Stinger: and go to men seeking women
  28. [9:54:37 PM] Stinger: also for examples of ads just look at the popular ones and copy them
  29. [9:54:38 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Oh but here’s the thing
  30. [9:54:49 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: The point is that I bought this eBook to see something unique
  31. [9:54:55 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I have been using Craigslist in past mate
  32. [9:55:02 PM] Stinger: That's obviously not true
  33. [9:55:06 PM] Stinger: you would have stated that earlier.
  34. [9:55:08 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Backpage is something I didn't hear
  35. [9:55:38 PM] Stinger: Sorry mate I don't just issue refunds like this. Usually the only time refunds are permitted is when the customer attempts to use the method and somehow does not profit.
  36. [9:55:48 PM] Stinger: Which is near impossible because I step in for support and ensure profit is made.
  37. [9:55:59 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I have no issue with attempting the method :)
  38. [9:56:11 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: But the point is, I cannot do that due to restrictions I mentioned.
  39. [9:56:14 PM] Stinger: Ok so give it a shot I'm telling you its profitable.
  40. [9:56:18 PM] Stinger: There are no restrictions.
  41. [9:56:22 PM] Stinger: You setup if there is a problem
  42. [9:56:24 PM] Stinger: you tell me
  43. [9:56:25 PM] Stinger: and I fix it.
  44. [9:56:32 PM] Stinger: This works worldwide no problem.
  45. [9:56:36 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Yes but telling me to use Craigslist isn’t really a fix
  46. [9:56:50 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Because I simply have used it before. Craiglist with Kik and so on
  47. [9:57:00 PM] Stinger: What is this excuse here?
  48. [9:57:03 PM] Stinger: Do you understand
  49. [9:57:07 PM] Stinger: if you used craigslist before
  50. [9:57:10 PM] Stinger: you would know what backpages is
  51. [9:57:12 PM] Stinger: and be familiar
  52. [9:57:17 PM] Stinger: Please stop this.
  53. [9:57:20 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I have never heard of back pages unfortunately.
  54. [9:57:24 PM] Stinger: I'm seriously not here to listen to excuses.
  55. [9:57:33 PM] Stinger: You're clearly making stuff up now
  56. [9:57:39 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I most certainly am not.
  57. [9:57:47 PM] Stinger: Ok so then please stop and make use of the method.
  58. [9:57:51 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I waited for 3 hours for you to come so that we can resolve this.
  59. [9:58:08 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: And I am telling you that the method cannot work for me simply because of improper instructions being given.
  60. [9:58:10 PM] Stinger: Ok? I was out.
  61. [9:58:17 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Yeah, no problem with that.
  62. [9:58:18 PM] Stinger: improper instructions?
  63. [9:58:32 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Yes. I can point it directly and show you via screenshare.
  64. [9:58:32 PM] Stinger: If you wanna continue
  65. [9:58:34 PM] Stinger: with this non-sense
  66. [9:58:40 PM] Stinger: I will void your refund and support.
  67. [9:58:50 PM] Stinger: I'm not here to listen to life stories, time is money.
  68. [9:58:54 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Please, no need for anything of the sort. I just want you to hear me out.
  69. [9:59:08 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: You are here because I am entitled to support which you are not really giving me.
  70. [9:59:15 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: All I am asking is for you to see my proof
  71. [9:59:23 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: That the method I bought includes improper instructions
  72. [9:59:23 PM] Stinger: You haven't said that once
  73. [9:59:27 PM] Stinger: and where have I not given you support
  74. [9:59:31 PM] Stinger: you are complaining about the method
  75. [9:59:34 PM] Stinger: you aren't asking how to use it
  76. [9:59:37 PM] Stinger: your complaining
  77. [9:59:40 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Oh, please don’t misunderstand me
  78. [9:59:40 PM] Stinger: what do you want me to do...
  79. [9:59:50 PM] Stinger: I am understanding you perfectly.
  80. [9:59:54 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: You are giving me support. I have said nothing otherwise.
  81. [10:00:01 PM] Stinger: Not one word has been misinterpreted
  82. [10:00:19 PM] Stinger: that's one hell of a contradiction
  83. [10:00:20 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Yes, not a single one. However, I implore you to see my side of things.
  84. [10:00:27 PM] Stinger: You are here because I am entitled to support which you are not really giving me.
  85. [10:00:39 PM] Stinger: "you are not really giving me"
  86. [10:00:42 PM] Stinger: "You are giving me"
  87. [10:00:49 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Exactly. ‘Not really’ which means not in proper way.
  88. [10:00:53 PM] Stinger: lol.
  89. [10:00:59 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I am sorry for any confusion.
  90. [10:01:02 PM] Stinger: Are you finished?
  91. [10:01:17 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Do you want to hear me out and see my proof?
  92. [10:01:27 PM] Stinger: The only proof I want to see
  93. [10:01:30 PM] Stinger: if you attempting the method
  94. [10:01:31 PM] Stinger: and it not working.
  95. [10:01:35 PM] Stinger: If you have problems setting u
  96. [10:01:39 PM] Stinger: you message me
  97. [10:01:41 PM] Stinger: and I fix it.
  98. [10:01:44 PM] Stinger: Otherwise please stop.
  99. [10:01:46 PM] Stinger: seriously.
  100. [10:02:01 PM] Stinger: ive told you plenty of times now
  101. [10:02:05 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I think you maybe don’t understand that I bought an eBook that had a clear set of instructions
  102. [10:02:11 PM] Stinger: the next time I will just block you.
  103. [10:02:14 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Do you agree with the latter statement?
  104. [10:02:23 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: The e-Book contains a clear set of instructions.
  105. [10:02:27 PM] Stinger: If you don't understand anything
  106. [10:02:30 PM] Stinger: you simply ask me
  107. [10:02:32 PM] Stinger: and I fix it.
  108. [10:02:39 PM] Stinger: No I'm actually still touching up the ebook
  109. [10:02:44 PM] Stinger: that's why I'm providing personal support.
  110. [10:02:52 PM] Stinger: But all members will get the update free of charge.
  111. [10:02:52 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I do understand everything. I have read the instructions and they are crystal clear.
  112. [10:03:07 PM] Stinger: Ok I am cutting off your support and refund.
  113. [10:03:10 PM] Stinger: Have a good day.
  114. [10:03:15 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I am opening a deal dispute.
  115. [10:03:19 PM] Stinger: Feel free to.
  116. [10:03:34 PM] Stinger: I will gladly provide paypal with sufficient evidence
  117. [10:03:46 PM] Stinger: and I'm protected by paypals seller protection for virtual and intangible goods.
  118. [10:04:17 PM] Stinger: Can't wait to see your excuse aha.
  119. [10:04:54 PM] Stinger: Will also be telling haxorized to cut off contact with you.
  120. [10:05:45 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Seller protection does not apply to items not matching description
  121. [10:06:05 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I will contact Crowley one last time
  122. [10:06:11 PM] Stinger: Item has fully matched its description and actually buyers aren't protected for virtual items.
  123. [10:06:11 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Maybe he can see reason
  124. [10:06:15 PM] Stinger: I already talked to him.
  125. [10:06:20 PM] Stinger: He will be cutting off contact with you.
  126. [10:06:27 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I will nevertheless talk with him.
  127. [10:06:31 PM] Stinger: You clearly aren't cooperating.
  128. [10:06:35 PM] Stinger: Have a good day.
  129. [10:06:49 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: If he rather not answer, it’s not a problem. I will still proceed with a deal dispute.
  130. [10:06:50 PM] Stinger: Lie after lie, its ridiculous.
  131. [10:07:16 PM] Stinger: I don't even know you yet and ive already heard 6 different bs stories from you.
  132. [10:07:32 PM] Stinger: Please make the dispute :P
  133. [10:07:40 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I insist on resolving this issue in a proper manner.
  134. [10:07:44 PM] Stinger: You will save me time.
  135. [10:07:54 PM] Stinger: Clearly not.
  136. [10:08:02 PM] Stinger: I told you to come to me when the method does not preofit.
  137. [10:08:04 PM] Stinger: profit*
  138. [10:08:10 PM] Stinger: That's is the only case a refund is issued.
  139. [10:08:26 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: There was no such thing written anywhere in the thread.
  140. [10:08:31 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: There is a refund warranty.
  141. [10:08:39 PM] Stinger: Yesz
  142. [10:08:41 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: No clause for specific terms.
  143. [10:08:52 PM] Stinger: Exactly refund warranty
  144. [10:08:53 PM] Stinger: key wrod
  145. [10:08:54 PM] Stinger: warranty
  146. [10:08:55 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Therefore, I am legally entitled to a refund as per refund warranty claim.
  147. [10:08:58 PM] Stinger: a warranty can always be voided.
  148. [10:09:01 PM] Stinger: Please do so.
  149. [10:09:03 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Of course it can.
  150. [10:09:07 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Based on specific grounds.
  151. [10:09:09 PM] Stinger: I don't know where you get these ideas from
  152. [10:09:13 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: These grounds are not outlined to the customer.
  153. [10:09:14 PM] Stinger: Its like you use your own knowledge
  154. [10:09:19 PM] Stinger: and think everything you say applies
  155. [10:09:26 PM] Stinger: its quite funny.
  156. [10:09:30 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Therefore you cannot void it without proper violation from customer’s part.
  157. [10:09:45 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: You can be ironic all you want. I don’t mind.
  158. [10:09:59 PM] Stinger: Actually, this is a virtual goods and the only time paypal will issue a refund is for an unauthorized claim or if the buyer has not receieved their item.
  159. [10:10:05 PM] Stinger: Please go open the dispute
  160. [10:10:07 PM] Stinger: and stop wasting my time.
  161. [10:10:14 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: You fail to see reason.
  162. [10:10:14 PM] Stinger: I'm seriously sick and tired of this I got customers to help
  163. [10:10:28 PM] Stinger: Funny because my other customers get along great with me
  164. [10:10:31 PM] Stinger: and we profit well together
  165. [10:10:34 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Then I guess I wish you a good day.
  166. [10:10:38 PM] Stinger: I don't have time for people like you.
  167. [10:10:43 PM] Stinger: Trying to scam a refund
  168. [10:10:45 PM] Stinger: its pathetic.
  169. [10:10:52 PM] Stinger: one lie to the next
  170. [10:10:56 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: I am sorry for any inconvenience caused but I will seek a refund and continue with deal dispute.
  171. [10:11:03 PM] Stinger: please go hurry up and open the dispute.
  172. [10:11:06 PM] Stinger: also link to hf profile?
  173. [10:11:46 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Yes, of course; https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3379308
  174. [10:11:53 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Feel free to leave your feedback.
  175. [10:12:31 PM] Stinger: No, just to open a dispute on hf when your attempted chargeback happens so other sellers don't have to deal with you.
  176. [10:12:43 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: There was no chargeback attempt.
  177. [10:12:59 PM] Stinger: Yes a deal dispute is against terms by all means.
  178. [10:13:09 PM] Stinger: What do you think this is lol?
  179. [10:13:12 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Terms outlined where exactly?
  180. [10:13:21 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: And if you open a deal dispute for a chargeback attempt
  181. [10:13:22 PM] Stinger: I'm not sure you've come up with half my terms
  182. [10:13:25 PM] Stinger: from your head
  183. [10:13:29 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: That would risk your account.
  184. [10:13:38 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Opening false deal disputes is not allowed.
  185. [10:13:42 PM] Stinger: looool
  186. [10:13:48 PM] Stinger: "false dispute"
  187. [10:13:53 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Yes, precisely.
  188. [10:14:00 PM] Stinger: Any chargeback is against terms.
  189. [10:14:07 PM] Stinger: I love
  190. [10:14:09 PM] Stinger: how you come up
  191. [10:14:11 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: There has not been any chargeback, yet.
  192. [10:14:11 PM] Stinger: with all these rules
  193. [10:14:19 PM] Stinger: Yeah that's why there is no dispute yet.
  194. [10:14:26 PM] Stinger: I'm just asking ahead of time
  195. [10:14:35 PM] Stinger: Cuz I have half this chat screenshotted already
  196. [10:14:36 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: A deal dispute is different from chargeback.
  197. [10:14:47 PM] Stinger: / Deal Disputes
  198. [10:14:49 PM] Stinger: look at that
  199. [10:14:51 PM] Stinger: we dealt on hf
  200. [10:14:52 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: As do I but please, allow me the courtesy to create the deal dispute
  201. [10:14:55 PM] Stinger: you make a deal dispute on pp
  202. [10:14:59 PM] Stinger: I make one on hf
  203. [10:15:07 PM] Stinger: and if people thin kits fake
  204. [10:15:09 PM] Stinger: they can ignore it
  205. [10:15:10 PM] Stinger: that's no problem.
  206. [10:15:11 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Once again, I have not opened a deal dispute on PayPal.
  207. [10:15:15 PM] Stinger: and once again
  208. [10:15:23 PM] Stinger: I haven't opened anything either.
  209. [10:15:54 PM] Stinger: Have a good day, like I said if you wanna actually use the method to make some good $ instead of coming up with lowsy excuses to force a refund u can feel free to msg me.
  210. [10:16:07 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Likewise. :)
  211. [10:16:09 PM] Stinger: Any other messages will be ignored hereon.
  212. [10:16:15 PM] Nick Gatzoulis: Agreed.
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