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  3. #1
  4. https://epicmafia.com/game/5834239/review
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  6. Crayray is janitor, Download is blue.
  7. D1, Download outs with a random guilty. At the same time, Crayray outs with a guilty on Download.
  8. Immediately she retracts, possibly because she realized Download is sheriff (as she guiltied someone who isn’t mafia). The problem here is the way she does so:
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  11. First of all, I wasnt blue, I was sheriff, Cray bubble guiltied me and retracted when i guiltied a town. But in my head she cc'd me cause I guiltied their partner. That's why cray was shot and townny was lynched when she was cc'd as journalist.
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  13. If i was actually cheating with Cray, I had an a good enough reason to not hammer townny there. Saying she retracted the report cause I guiltied a town but I obv overthought and lost possible auto.Also i gave a scumread on kidneybeans before dying after lynching confirmed mafia. If i was cheating.. wouldnt i hammer for auto?
  14. I lost the game as sheriff when i coulda auto win d2 by hammering the non confirmed if i knew the mafia. So why is this here? Confused.
  15. You could read d3 graveyard to see I had no interaction outside with cray.
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  18. #2 https://epicmafia.com/game/5851937/review
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  20. Brenda inno'd puppy and puppy had a really weird cc. Puppy was my obv sr but i couldnt argue with the fact that its optimal to shoot the one who inno'd their cc. But subconsciously puppy couldnt be janitor hence i didnt want cray shot as she was clear of jan and i wanted cops shot oor night shot cuz i sr night in blues. ray had no reason to hardclaim blue at the begining of the game as mafia. Mafia could plan on ccing journ if things go wrong. I mainly wanted cops shot cuz i thought brenda was the real cop and she was getting shot.
  21. If i was cheating why didnt i talk to GY and findout who mafia was so we could win before a 3way? and pass the info to cray?
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  23. #3 https://epicmafia.com/game/5851870
  24. This game I literally thought BecomeClear was town throwing agaisnt me. When he voted me on lylo with a confirmed mafia i was scared that I get blitz but I didn't. I didn't even expect to die as Rayyaa or puppy coulda blitz on me the day before and at the same time puppy had a weird play.
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  26. "This is a game in which Download dies N3 and Ray has to carry the 3 way. Upon dying, Download immediately asks who the mafia is. She even pings Nobody, and asks for the last mafia over and over."
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  28. "over and over again" I died asking if become was mafia for his play?? but i still assumed he was literally just being a throwing blue. I asked nobody ONCE out of curiosity? it was one of the deciding games for me and he was talking anyway right before i pinged his name so why does me pinging matter. Ray Was forced to cross with become anyway? And did she cross immediately after i was told who mafia was? So why is this suspicious. She had no choice but to cross him? The decision of this game was not in ray's or my hands,as she was forced to cross become when she thought he was town. IT was PUPPY who was clear and who hammered mafia.
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  31. #4
  32. https://epicmafia.com/game/5846849
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  34. My only Mafia read before shot was shooting. Sheriff shot loris who was jan that didnt cc.
  35. I claimed journ very suspiciously knowing mafia didn't cc cop since journ was janned.
  36. Cray was pushing on me all of d1 saying i was fake but ofc as any one with brains you don't hammer in uncced prs d1.I even said to get in cray/shooting. If i knew she was town why would i do that when we both would possibly live the next day and lawyer would be confirmed even if they had hammered the blue which was justice which wouldnt have happened since he was cops inno. even if toxic/shooting had blue why did i push on cray/shooting? i wouldnt if i knew cray was town.
  37. I kept flipping reports 3 times i liked shootings initial rxn for my guilty on him so i wasnt sure if he was nilla. but then when i rr n came back he said "Shootinst...
  38. im starting to think that journ is janned and download is fake" before i changed the report. He said im "probably not journ" when i was confirmed to him. The only people who said i was fake were the mafia and i dont think either of them are good enough players to figure this out as blues.(no offense)
  39. Toxic rxn when i guiltied shooting again, gave it away. "I KNEW IT" anyway, i wasnt clear either days thats why i was asking for hammer and if nilla is hammered i would be clear and it would be auto. but i didnt have hammer sadly but justice believed me.. and he was the clear so.
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  41. It was a risky play by me but i had to stick to being journalist to live. 50% law was in toxic/shooting . It wouldn't have been this tough and i would have no reason to change reports 3 times if i had graveyard vision. at most i wouldnt need to have gy viison if i was communicating with cray i woulda made sure cop didnt hammer her.
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  43. #5
  44. https://epicmafia.com/game/5834286
  45. What does cray meta clearing herself have to do with me?
  46. Specially when she has faked it not long ago. Meaning this round.
  47. https://epicmafia.com/game/5842799/review
  48. I was in a higher place on erza than on download when she did that. This aint honest meta.
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  50. #6 https://epicmafia.com/game/5835247
  51. This is the most ridiculous accusation.
  52. I kept claiming journ hoping real journ would claim, even tho gerry had a fishy claim by retracting and reclaiming. Later on I belived he was real for the way he spoke.
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  54. Gerry
  55. IF U DONT SHOOT ONE OF THOSE
  56. Starfire22 unvotes *
  57. 12:46 Starfire2...
  58. jesus
  59. 12:47 Gerry
  60. I WONT CHECK COP TONIGHT
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  62. It was easy for me in cops the next day cause I was lynching the person who would guilty townny. cause she was my tr. SO i hammered an auto.
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  64. Bottom line. I thought gerry was real journ and i woulda shot him or lynched him for claiming journ if i knew cray was journ.
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  67. #7
  68. https://epicmafia.com/game/5836598/review
  69. How the hell is it my fault that caroline tr'd the mafia who cc'd cop and retracted after cop died.
  70. And you are acusing me for meta abuse for using fake meta?
  71. Also caroline was obvious town when fading died but journalist gave mafia hammer cause of his ego. what does this have to do with me?
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  73. #8
  74. https://epicmafia.com/game/5838972/review
  75. So you are saying after cheating with Murderbae, I shot real Journ and fos'd real cop while i was dying?
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  77. Maybe she misclicked? why does me living would matter? also, shwatz dying there was optimal as mafia inno'd them. it could have been to wifom as real cops inno dying. idk what was in her head but killing me or not killing me wouldnt have mattered there.
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  79. #9
  80. https://epicmafia.com/game/5839016/review
  81. I didnt hard claim meta clear firstly,
  82. secondly i said i wouldnt kill rushian and i was appealing to mafia. why does it matter>? this isnt meta between us.
  83. Like i said in comments,
  84. I tr Jeremy for freely fosing cleared cop I doubt a mafia would be that carefree! That's why I was certain of kasich! I tr him on his fos on clear cop! Also that was the only sr I gave that game from what I remember ! I didn't call all 3 mafia even tho in some games I could! I have two trophies , am I not capable of catching one mafia and tring an actual town ?
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  86. #10
  87. https://epicmafia.com/game/5839035/review
  88. How the hell is it meta abuse to ask if she grudgekilled someone she doesnt like LOL? and did she say yes?
  89. It was 5 way no clears. I TR matt over rushian and i voted my fos at kicks
  90. And she says "DOWNLOAD KICKED" she obv wanted to win the game as much as i did. Neither of us had hammer and we both voted on kicks. The blue got cleared and cray went into autoloss as nilla was rushian.
  91. If you ACTUALly read the game you will notice how hard we both played to win for our own teams
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  93. This is absolutely true: When MurderBae is town, she never scumreads Download. She might out a soft read on her, but she changes it quickly or just treats her as obvious town. When Download is mafia, she just ignores her presence or tries to push on town instead.
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  95. So fabricated. Look at my winrate as mafia. I fool most people as mafia I wasn't just offered my last 2 trophies either. I play hard deal with it.
  96. There's only a few people who can legit read me when im scum and i make sure i n1 them in every possibility.
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  99. #11 https://epicmafia.com/game/5852014/review
  100. Fear pushed on a blue and cray shot it.
  101. I bussd both my mafia cop partner
  102. Town was fosing each other
  103. The only person who was calling me mafia on lylo was swirl who everyone fos'd and was my maf partner
  104. I blitz this game when fear voted NL
  105. and if rayy knew i was mafia why did she have to state the fact that i was town when the game was ending?
  106. >asking for hammer isnt scummy.
  107. >I have done this in the past as town and thats why i did it again to look towny
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  109. Not sure how this is in anyway meta abuse. we both have pushed on each other as town and this game is mainly based on mechanics and reports. If you get a bad sheriff you are most likely to lose. And everytime Cray was mafia and i was sheriff i have lynched/shot a town d1 everytime. So clearly i wouldnt do that if i knew the mafias or if i can meta read cray and her partners.
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  111. She hardclaimed blue one game LOL. and i tr her for that. you are telling me im not suppose to ask someone if they are mafia or not? and then ur saying im cheating. if im cheating why am i asking them in the first place? >asking someone if they are maf is meta abuse. And you cant literally say im meta abusing just cause i played like 15 games with her including all her alts.Neither of us always had the perfect reads.
  112. Also i have proven that cray has no honest meta with me and clearly that im not cheating with her.
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  115. Specially accusing me of cheating with someone who accused me of cheating with gerry 2 months a go is kind of ridiculous.
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  117. Secondly I cant meta abuse with someone who fakes meta and you cant bring that against me when i was in the graveyard
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  119. Let me know if you have anymore doubts that I have to clear.
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  121. Thanks
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