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United Airlines Flight 2885 (January 11, 1983)

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  1. Date: January 11, 1983
  2. Passengers: 3 (all crew)
  3. Fatalities: 3
  4. Cause: "...flightcrew's failure to follow procedural checklist requirements and to detect and correct a mistrimmed stabilizer before the airplane became uncontrollable. Contributing to the accident was the captain's allowing the second officer, who was not qualified to act as a pilot, to occupy the seat of the first officer and conduct the takeoff."
  5.  
  6.  
  7. Legend:
  8. CAM Cockpit area mic voice or sound source
  9. RDO Radio transmission from accident aircraft
  10. -1 Captain's voice
  11. -2 First officer's voice
  12. -3 Flight engineer's voice
  13. -? Voice unidentified
  14. CC Crewman on ground (intercom)
  15. CD Clearance delivery
  16. GND Detroit Ground
  17. TWR Detroit Tower
  18. N314WN Other aircraft
  19. * Unintelligible word
  20. # Nonpertinent word
  21. ( ) Questionable text
  22. (( )) Editorial insertion
  23. --- Pause
  24. ### Denotes lengthy break in transcript
  25. - Other flight communications (before time)
  26. All times expressed in Eastern Standard Time
  27.  
  28.  
  29. ---
  30.  
  31.  
  32. 0231:26 RDO-2 United twenty eight eighty five heavy to Los Angeles with Foxtrot
  33.  
  34. 0231:35 CD United, ah, twenty eighty eight five heavy, Metro Clearance Delivery cleared to Los Angeles via Detroit Metro four, departure as filed, squawk four one two five, departure frequency one two four decimal zero five
  35.  
  36. 0231:50 RDO-2 As filed, Detroit Metro four fourty one twenty five and one twenty four oh five
  37.  
  38. 0231:58 CD United twenty eight eighty five heavy readback correct, good night
  39.  
  40. ###
  41.  
  42. 0241:49 CAM-? * *
  43.  
  44. 0241:50 CAM-2 We've got a manifest?
  45.  
  46. 0241:53 CAM-3 (Yeah)
  47. CAM-2 Windshield heat
  48. CAM-1 On
  49. CAM-2 Cabin signs
  50. CAM-1 They're on
  51.  
  52. 0241:56 CAM-2 Parking brake
  53. CAM-1 Set
  54. CAM-2 Hydraulics
  55.  
  56. 0241:59 CAM-3 Check
  57.  
  58. 0242:01 CAM-2 * pumps
  59. CAM-3 On
  60. CAM-? * *
  61.  
  62. 0242:05 CAM-? Yeah
  63. CAM-3 No big deal
  64.  
  65. 0242:16 CAM-1 What is it you need to know?
  66.  
  67. 0242:18 CAM-1 What is it you need to know?
  68. CAM-2 Oh I * * *
  69.  
  70. 0242:23 CAM-2 Hydraulic pumps selector
  71. CAM-1 Pumps are on, huh?
  72. CAM-2 Oil quanity
  73.  
  74. 0242:24 CAM-2 Fuel
  75. CAM-3 Fifty nine
  76. CAM-1 Oh they're all fifty nine that's showing on the totalizer?
  77.  
  78. 0242:33 CAM-2 Fifty nine and ah SAI
  79. CAM-1 It's on
  80. CAM-? PTC
  81.  
  82. 0242:38 CC Hello cockpit
  83. RDO-1 Hello earth
  84. CC Are you ready to start engines?
  85. RDO-1 Yeah
  86. CC Okay, you're clear on all four engines
  87. RDO-1 All right
  88.  
  89. 0242:43 CAM-1 (What'll that be?)
  90. CAM-1 (Clear this with him)
  91. CAM-1 Start 'em then
  92. CAM-1 You start 'em, I think I'm more tired
  93.  
  94. 0242:54 CAM-3 (I don't know)
  95. CAM-2 You ready to go?
  96.  
  97. 0242:59 CAM-3 Okay hit 'em
  98. CAM-? * * N one
  99.  
  100. 0243:05 CAM-? * * none huh
  101.  
  102. 0243:06 CAM-? Ya sure?
  103.  
  104. 0243:15 CAM-3 Oil pressure, fifteen
  105. CAM-? (Got air)
  106. CAM-? Nothing *
  107.  
  108. 0243:29 CAM-3 We're not doing any good here are we?
  109. CAM-3 Need more air if we're going to do it
  110. CAM-? Huh?
  111. CAM-3 Tell him to crank up his air down there
  112.  
  113. 0243:36 RDO-1 I need a little more air
  114. 0243:39 CC Okay, I think I know what's wrong
  115. 0243:42 CC How's that?
  116. RDO-1 Better
  117.  
  118. CAM-3 It still is down
  119. CAM-2 Yeah
  120. CAM-2 Now we got the switches on
  121. CAM-2 (Ten) seconds from the start
  122.  
  123. 0244:04 CAM-2 Thirty five
  124. CAM-3 Closed
  125. CAM-2 Four
  126.  
  127. 0244:11 CAM-3 I don't know what to think now, once you turn the fuel on this, the air starts going down, you know
  128. CAM-1 Yup
  129. CAM-? (Really)
  130. CAM-3 You can get a hot start ((overlays indication below))
  131. CAM-2 I didn't have any indication of fuel or anthing up here
  132. CAM-1 You'd get an explosion
  133. CAM-3 You can get a hot start pretty quick that way
  134.  
  135. 0244:23 CAM-3 Oil pressure, fifteen
  136. CAM-2 I didn't have N one
  137. CAM-1 (Fuel flow)
  138. CAM-2 I didn't have nothing
  139. CAM-3 Jim
  140. CAM-3 Did you get weather?
  141. CAM-3 Thirty five
  142. CAM-2 # # I don't know
  143. CAM-1 The weather is clear and twenty, sixty three degrees
  144.  
  145. 0244:44 CAM-? My god in the middle of the night
  146.  
  147. 0244:50 CAM-3 Oil pressure fifteen
  148. CAM-? Yeah
  149.  
  150. 0245:03 CAM-3 There's thirty five
  151. CAM ((Sound similar to buss transfer))
  152. CAM-1 ((Sound of belch)) My god
  153.  
  154. 0245:13 CAM-2 Are you all right
  155. CAM-1 No
  156.  
  157. 0245:16 CAM-2 I think you getting mange, you have been eating that # protein
  158. CAM-3 Oil pressure fifteen, power coming on
  159. CAM-2 Oh, oh, something gave out
  160. CAM-2 (Not going)
  161.  
  162. 0245:32 CAM-3 Thirty five
  163. CAM-3 Call for disconnect
  164.  
  165. RDO-1 Disconnect
  166. CC Okay disconnecting
  167.  
  168. 0245:43 CAM-1 Holy # that baby's dark
  169. CAM-1 Now it isn't dark
  170.  
  171. 0245:48 CAM-? You guys are taking my job away
  172.  
  173. 0245:58 RDO-2 United twenty eight eighty five taxi out of cargo
  174. CD United twenty eight eighty five contact ground point eight
  175. RDO-2 Okay
  176. RDO-2 United twenty eight eighty five with ya
  177. GND United twenty eight eighty five Metro ground taxi to runway two one right
  178. RDO-2 Two one right
  179.  
  180. 0246:35 CAM-1 Gotta unlock the controls (power on)
  181.  
  182. 0247:12 CAM-? That's funny
  183.  
  184. 0247:13 CAM-? Mike installation change
  185. CAM-1 Salute
  186.  
  187. 0247:35 CAM-3 (There's an old light) on over there
  188.  
  189. 0247:49 CAM-2 Clear right
  190.  
  191. 0247:56 CAM-1 You guys go ahead and do it anytime you want
  192. CAM-3 Okay, no changes
  193.  
  194. 0248:02 CAM-3 You got ah, compass indicators
  195. CAM-1 Align
  196. CAM-2 Align
  197. CAM-3 Flight nav instruments
  198. CAM-2 Check here
  199. CAM-3 Anti-ice
  200. CAM-2 Off
  201.  
  202. 0248:09 CAM-3 Pitot heat
  203. CAM-2 Captains
  204.  
  205. 0248:12 CAM-3 Spoilers
  206. CAM-2 Checked lights out
  207.  
  208. 0248:15 CAM-3 Normal pressures, anti-skid
  209. CAM-2 On
  210.  
  211. 0248:18 CAM-3 Gust lock
  212. CAM-2 Off
  213. CAM-3 Flaps
  214. CAM-2 Say again
  215. CAM-3 Flaps
  216. CAM-2 * indicating *
  217. CAM-3 Controls
  218. CAM-2 Right
  219. CAM-3 Drop
  220. CAM-2 Neutral
  221. CAM-3 (Drop)
  222. CAM-2 Left
  223. CAM-2 Neutral
  224. CAM-3 Drop
  225.  
  226. 0248:33 CAM-2 Forward (aft)
  227.  
  228. 0248:37 CAM-1 Right
  229. CAM-3 Drop
  230. CAM-1 Left
  231. CAM-3 Drop drop drop
  232.  
  233. 0248:42 CAM-3 Power on, light out, trim
  234. CAM-2 Set
  235. CAM-3 EPR bugs
  236. CAM-2 Twenty one, thirty seven, forty nine, forty four left and right
  237.  
  238. 0248:52 CAM-3 Vee speeds
  239. CAM-1 Twenty one, thirty seven, forty four left
  240. CAM-1 Forty nine left
  241. CAM-2 Okay
  242.  
  243. 0249:05 CAM-3 Ah --- yaw dampers
  244. CAM-2 Yaw dampers off
  245.  
  246. 0249:07 CAM-3 Fuel levers
  247. CAM-2 Detent
  248. CAM-3 Tank selectors
  249. CAM-3 Mains
  250. CAM-3 Boost pumps
  251. CAM-3 On
  252. CAM-3 Down to the line
  253.  
  254. 0249:16 CAM-1 Are you guys trading?
  255. CAM-2 Do it
  256. CAM-1 Are you guys trading?
  257. CAM-2 Ready
  258. CAM-2 You ready?
  259. CAM-3 Go for it
  260.  
  261. 0249:23 CAM-2 Ready to trade
  262. CAM-3 Oh we're going to trade now?
  263. CAM-2 We're on tower frequency
  264. CAM-1 Okay
  265.  
  266. 0249:40 CAM-1 (You) got the gear and all that #
  267. CAM-1 (* * get the gear)
  268. CAM-? Yeah
  269. CAM-1 These # things, I hate them
  270. CAM ((Sound of laughter))
  271. CAM-? Switch over
  272.  
  273. 0249:48 CAM-3 It's already on it
  274. CAM-? Tower frequency
  275.  
  276. 0249:49 CAM-3 Yeah I am on both, I'm I'm on both of them
  277.  
  278. 0249:58.1 RDO-1 United twenty eight eight five heavy, ready to go
  279. 0250:02.8 TWR United twenty eight eighty five heavy Metro tower turn right heading two seven zero, runway two one right cleared for takeoff
  280. 0250:09 RDO-1 Two seventy cleared for takeoff two one right
  281.  
  282. 0250:16.8 CAM-1 That's two seventy six out, and it's all set up?
  283. CAM-3 Okay
  284.  
  285. 0250:22.5 CAM-1 Now let's have the finale
  286. CAM-3 Ignition
  287.  
  288. 0250:29.5 CAM-2 Do you want all boost pumps on or off
  289. CAM-3 On
  290.  
  291. -0250:31 TWR Whiskey November did you get delayed at Pla or Butler
  292. -0250:36 N314WN Yes sir Whiskey November ah we're just going over our clearance here, we're taxiing out now
  293.  
  294. CAM-3 Ah they go all the way on
  295. CAM-? (Warning lights)
  296. CAM-3 Off
  297. CAM-3 Taking the runway
  298.  
  299. 0250:38.6 CAM-3 Transponder
  300.  
  301. -0250:40 TWR Okay thank you
  302.  
  303. 0250:40.9 CAM-1 That is on
  304.  
  305. 0250:42.4 CAM-3 Flight recorder
  306. CAM-2 Lights out
  307.  
  308. -0250:45 N314WN Ah can't seem to find the Metro four departure
  309.  
  310. 0250:45.8 CAM-3 (Ah set)
  311. CAM-2 On
  312.  
  313. 0250:47.7 CAM-3 That's it
  314.  
  315. -0250:49.0 TWR Okay, maintain, ah, three thousand and departure control frequency one two four point zero five and, ah, he read you most the rest of it
  316.  
  317. 0250:52.7 CAM-3 (Seatbelt, no smoking)
  318. CAM-1 Full down, yeah we'll get that on the roll
  319. CAM-? Transponder on?
  320. CAM-? Yeah we have the (transponder) on
  321. CAM-? Okay
  322. CAM-? *
  323.  
  324. -0250:58 N314WN Okay
  325.  
  326. 0251:01.1 CAM-? (We get) everything yet?
  327.  
  328. 0251:01.7 CAM-1 Okay fellows
  329.  
  330. 0251:05.2 CAM ((Sound of power increases))
  331.  
  332. -0251:10 N314WN And, ah, Whiskey November, we're gonna need nine thousand, ah, want us to take care of that now or later
  333.  
  334. 0251:12.4 CAM-1 You got it
  335.  
  336. 0251:12.6 CAM ((Sound of power stabilizes))
  337.  
  338. -0251:19 TWR Requesting what altitude
  339.  
  340. -0251:20 N314WN Niner thousand or ten make it ten thousand
  341.  
  342. 0251:20 ((Clicks)) 1-1/2
  343.  
  344. 0251:21.5 CAM-1 Looks good
  345.  
  346. -0251:23 TWR One zero thousand (unintelliglble) we'll take care of that now maintain five thousand, ah, Whiskey November expect further clearance to nine thousand ten minutes after departure
  347.  
  348. 0251:23.5 CAM ((Series of clicks))
  349.  
  350. 0251:25.5 CAM-2 Eighty knots
  351.  
  352. 0251:27.3 CAM-1 Eighty knots
  353. CAM-1 (That's working *)
  354.  
  355. -0251:33 N314WN Whiskey November thank you five and then nine, ah, ten --- ten after
  356.  
  357. 0251:36.2 CAM-1 Vee one
  358.  
  359. 0251:38.0 CAM-1 (Okay/rotate)
  360.  
  361. 0251:41.2 CAM ((Sound similar to soft stickshaker))
  362.  
  363. 0251:41.7 CAM-1 Now that's rotation!
  364.  
  365. 0251:46.9 CAM-1 Here we go
  366. CAM-3 Take (my/your) time
  367.  
  368. 0251:48.1 CAM-2 (Appollo ten)/(A fellow can't trim in ah)
  369.  
  370. 0251:48.1 TWR United twenty eight eighty five heavy contact departure
  371.  
  372. CAM-1 (Wait a minute here)
  373. CAM-1 (#)
  374.  
  375. 0251:51.0 CAM ((Sound of stickshaker))
  376.  
  377. 0251:52.7 CAM-1 No! No!
  378. CAM-1 Push forward, push forward!
  379.  
  380. 0251:55.8 CAM-1 Oh my!
  381. CAM-2 Trim!
  382. CAM-1 God
  383.  
  384. 0252:00.3 CAM-? Oh #
  385. CAM ((Sound of stickshaker ceases))
  386. CAM-? *
  387.  
  388. 0252:03.4 CAM-1 It's going over
  389. CAM-? (Yeah)
  390.  
  391. 0252:04.7 CAM-2 No back around
  392.  
  393. 0252:07 TWR United twenty eight eighty five heavy contact departure
  394.  
  395. 0252:08.8 CAM-2 Back around the other way * *
  396.  
  397. 0252:09.2 CAM-1 Oh
  398. CAM ((Sound similar to stickshaker continues to impact))
  399. CAM-1 Oh
  400.  
  401. 0252:10.8 CAM-1 Running out of air
  402.  
  403. 0252:11.4 End of tape (impact)
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