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- 16:08 Hobbes2: gg
- 16:08 Mir: i asked meow for it
- 16:08 Mir: anyways nerfed it
- 16:08 Hobbes2: 02:01:200 (1) - hmm
- 16:08 Hobbes2: shorten by a reverse?
- 16:08 Hobbes2: idk..you dont relaly have to buffer this but
- 16:08 Hobbes2: its actually really easy to miss the slider end here
- 16:08 Mir: i don't think it's necessary
- 16:08 Hobbes2: especially because of the spacing to the next object
- 16:09 Mir: the slider end ends in the direction of the next object
- 16:09 Mir: so you are still able to get it
- 16:09 Mir: and players will be alternating anyways as you said
- 16:09 Hobbes2: alright fair enough
- 16:10 Hobbes2: 02:05:200 (1,2,1) - yea same spacing thing
- 16:10 Mir: ye
- 16:10 Hobbes2: 02:07:600 (1,2,1,2,1) - pls nerf
- 16:10 Hobbes2: wayyyyyy too big lol
- 16:10 Mir: yesyes
- 16:10 Mir: :3
- 16:10 Hobbes2: 02:12:400 (3,1) -
- 16:10 Hobbes2: this is kinda weird
- 16:10 Hobbes2: the wub noticeably starts before your slider does
- 16:11 Mir: mm i don't think it's that noticeable
- 16:11 Mir: it fades into peak on the red
- 16:11 Mir: so i put the object there instead of on the blue
- 16:11 Hobbes2: i kinda think that like the slider should start where 3 does
- 16:12 Hobbes2: the wub starts on the blue tick for sure
- 16:12 Hobbes2: red tick doesnt make sense to me
- 16:12 Hobbes2: forgot what i just said about making it start where 3 does thats bad
- 16:12 Mir: i can do that too yeah lol
- 16:12 Mir: i don't think it's that bad
- 16:12 Hobbes2: actually that would be better than this
- 16:12 Hobbes2: so yeah do that if you dont mind
- 16:12 Hobbes2: starting it where 3 does i mean
- 16:12 Mir: haihai~
- 16:13 Mir: hobbes you're so indecisive :3c
- 16:13 Hobbes2: i speak before i think
- 16:13 Hobbes2: :^)
- 16:13 Hobbes2: 02:13:200 (2,3,1) - why is this spaced so much
- 16:14 Hobbes2: compare it to the other instances of these short 1/4 sliders and its like
- 16:14 Hobbes2: super big
- 16:14 Mir: that whole section
- 16:14 Mir: is retarded
- 16:14 Mir: nerfed it all
- 16:14 Mir: lol
- 16:14 Hobbes2: good lol
- 16:14 Mir: i was getting a bit greedy at this point
- 16:14 Mir: i was like "MOAR IMPACT"
- 16:14 Mir: aaand it got out of hand
- 16:14 Hobbes2: 02:17:900 (4,1) -
- 16:14 Mir: yes did
- 16:14 Hobbes2: yeah i think you get the point, thats everything
- 16:15 Hobbes2: i think this set should get a few more mods but shiirn was like "but why ? ? ??'
- 16:15 Hobbes2: z- z
- 16:15 Mir: i mean
- 16:15 Mir: the set is probably mainly okay
- 16:15 Hobbes2: mikasa's diff needs a soft-remap anyway lol
- 16:15 Mir: yeah lul
- 16:15 Hobbes2: the entire thing is counterclockwise
- 16:15 Hobbes2: z_z
- 16:15 Mir: mikasa es su casa
- 16:15 Hobbes2: everything else is fine id just appreciate a few polish mods
- 16:15 Mir: MY SR NO
- 16:15 Hobbes2: ill mention it in my forum post
- 16:15 Mir: >>>>:
- 16:16 Mir: thank you hobbes~
- 16:16 Hobbes2: conceptually i agree with all of the diffs, except for mikasa's diff which doesnt have a concept but thats fine because who cares about low diffs LUL
- 16:16 Mir: LUL
- 16:16 Hobbes2: your diff is rather interesting minus the overspaced parts :^)^)
- 16:17 Mir: yes yes overspacing <:
- 16:17 Hobbes2: ill just mod it later in the recheck so look forward to that
- 16:17 Mir: i was just getting giddy xd
- 16:17 Mir: yay~
- 16:17 Hobbes2: first new bn to bubble gj
- 16:17 Mir: nope kurai did
- 16:17 Mir: but his bubble was popped
- 16:17 Mir: LUL
- 16:17 Mir: i have like 3 starred sets
- 16:18 Hobbes2: lol
- 16:18 Hobbes2: i wanna bubble stuff but i need to find stuff to bubble
- 16:19 Hobbes2: mos tof hte maps form my queue were shit
- 16:19 Hobbes2: so rip
- 16:19 Mir: bubble my map
- 16:19 Hobbes2: some were "rankable" but they were anime maps that i dont really want to be bubbling lol
- 16:19 Mir: that i send you
- 16:19 Mir: :(
- 16:19 Hobbes2: what map
- 16:19 Mir: tfw hobbes didn't even read your request
- 16:19 Mir: :cry:
- 16:19 Hobbes2: LOL oh
- 16:19 Hobbes2: fromt eh queue
- 16:19 *Mir is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1255843 Rameses B - Transformations Ft. Laura Brehm]
- 16:19 Hobbes2: ok yeah i have that
- 16:20 Hobbes2: monstrata starred this right
- 16:20 Mir: lasse did
- 16:20 Hobbes2: g
- 16:20 Hobbes2: is he not bubbling it
- 16:20 Mir: monstrata's been non-committal in rechecking it
- 16:20 Mir: he's qualifying it
- 16:21 Hobbes2: o
- 16:21 Hobbes2: ok ill look
- 16:21 Hobbes2: irc now is fine?
- 16:21 Mir: ye
- 16:21 Hobbes2: let me read monstrata's mod real quick
- 16:21 Mir: he said visual design felt detached
- 16:22 Mir: lasse said he didn't feel that it was that detached
- 16:22 Mir: i concluded: subjective
- 16:22 Hobbes2: lol
- 16:22 Mir: naxxy nazi-modded it a couple of times but didn't post for kds
- 16:22 Mir: except for the one time he actually modded it
- 16:22 Hobbes2: 00:03:837 (1,2,3) - idk this is maybe a me thing but even though this is the slow section you can still do downbeat emphasis
- 16:23 Mir: whatcha mean
- 16:23 Hobbes2: lower spacing of 2 i guess
- 16:23 Mir: sure i suppose
- 16:23 Hobbes2: like i think this intro is a bit overspaced overall
- 16:23 Hobbes2: its not "hard" its just like..it doesnt really feel "calm" to me
- 16:23 Hobbes2: subjective
- 16:24 Hobbes2: if you keep the spacing you use now for downbeats and move everything else a bit closer you keep downbeat emphasis which is :ok_hand: on electronic music and it makes this feel like hey im an intro
- 16:24 Mir: alright lets try that
- 16:24 Hobbes2: 00:17:551 (1,2,3) - spacing it like this is cool here because its like hey we added some instruments so we added some spacing :ok_hand: cool moves
- 16:25 Mir: so until then it's too overspaced
- 16:25 Hobbes2: ya
- 16:25 Hobbes2: first bookmark essentially
- 16:25 Hobbes2: you increased the sv but kept the spacing the same
- 16:25 Hobbes2: from first bookmark to second
- 16:25 Mir: agr
- 16:26 Hobbes2: if im not misunderstanding your rhythm shouldnt 00:11:765 - be a circle
- 16:26 Hobbes2: for the vocal
- 16:26 Hobbes2: since youve been following vocals
- 16:27 Mir: for the reverse?
- 16:27 Hobbes2: yea
- 16:27 Hobbes2: like shorten it and add a circle
- 16:27 Mir: yeah that works
- 16:28 Mir: okay did nersf
- 16:29 Hobbes2: sec, im keeping track of these changes
- 16:31 Hobbes2: ok
- 16:31 Hobbes2: second section is cool
- 16:31 Hobbes2: jk pranked
- 16:32 Hobbes2: 00:15:408 (1,2) - two one half sliders?
- 16:32 Mir: .
- 16:32 Mir: the bass
- 16:32 Mir: tho
- 16:32 Mir: :(
- 16:32 Hobbes2: tru
- 16:32 Hobbes2: ok
- 16:33 Hobbes2: i like doubles
- 16:33 Mir: me too
- 16:36 Hobbes2: fine fine fine
- 16:36 Mir: are u handsome
- 16:36 Mir: in both ways
- 16:37 Hobbes2: 01:05:122 (1,2,3) - why does this get uh
- 16:37 Hobbes2: bigger
- 16:37 Mir: piano gets bigger
- 16:37 Hobbes2: 01:02:979 (5,6) - ctrl+g and space it more
- 16:38 Hobbes2: then it would
- 16:38 Hobbes2: fit with this
- 16:38 Mir: ok dad
- 16:38 Mir: wait why ctrl g
- 16:38 Mir: it is ctrl+g'd
- 16:38 Hobbes2: yea
- 16:38 Hobbes2: make it normal
- 16:38 Hobbes2: so that hypermeasure is all the same direction
- 16:38 Hobbes2: and then when dr piano massivo plays
- 16:38 Mir: ah okay
- 16:39 Hobbes2: its like WOO im bigger
- 16:39 Hobbes2: the next hyper measure the two circles are ctrl+g'd and then the big piano is spaced out
- 16:39 Mir: you sounded like naxxy for a sec there
- 16:39 Hobbes2: so its like you have two different movements or whatever but the big piano is emphasized the same way
- 16:39 Mir: saying hypermeasure
- 16:39 Mir: mhm~ i got it and done!
- 16:39 Hobbes2: man ircing for randoms is gonna be so boring
- 16:39 Hobbes2: i cant talk like this lol
- 16:40 Mir: hehe
- 16:40 Hobbes2: 01:46:480 (2,3) - feels really big to me
- 16:40 Hobbes2: huge spacing + direction change is like
- 16:41 Hobbes2: pretty hard to land
- 16:41 Hobbes2: and im not feelin it in the music
- 16:41 Mir: yeah the spacing is
- 16:41 Mir: a bit fucked there
- 16:41 Mir: hmm
- 16:44 Mir: did something
- 16:44 Hobbes2: alright
- 16:45 Hobbes2: uh ai mod
- 16:45 Hobbes2: btw
- 16:45 Hobbes2: lol
- 16:45 Hobbes2: u pranked yourself with some sv changes it looks like
- 16:46 Mir: yes
- 16:46 Mir: it seems i forgot a 1.5x sv change
- 16:47 Hobbes2: such it would appear
- 16:47 Mir: :thonkhign:
- 16:47 Hobbes2: 01:43:694 (1,2) - difference between tehse two adn 01:48:837 (1) - that makes one a fast kickslider and one two circles?
- 16:48 Hobbes2: if anything i would have made the first on ea kickslider
- 16:48 Hobbes2: because it has a synth or whatever
- 16:48 Hobbes2: idk electronic instruments lul
- 16:49 Mir: i changed it to a stream you're right
- 16:49 Hobbes2: 01:50:980 (6) - are these suppose dto be fast
- 16:49 Hobbes2: i hear a bass on 01:51:408 (1,2) - but 6 and 7 dont have anything like that
- 16:50 Hobbes2: unless that doesnt relate to your svs
- 17:04 Hobbes2: test
- 17:04 Hobbes2: ok god bless
- 17:04 Mir: ayy
- 17:04 Hobbes2: did you get what i sent
- 17:04 Hobbes2: about 1:50 and 1:51
- 17:04 Mir: all i got was "are these supposed to be fast"
- 17:04 Mir: yes
- 17:04 Hobbes2: ko
- 17:04 Hobbes2: are they
- 17:05 Mir: no
- 17:05 Hobbes2: ok
- 17:05 Mir: i changed them
- 17:05 Hobbes2: 01:53:122 (1) - thoughts on silencing the tail of this
- 17:06 Hobbes2: its fine either way
- 17:06 Mir: nah
- 17:06 Hobbes2: aight
- 17:07 Hobbes2: 01:56:551 (1) - not sure on this
- 17:07 Hobbes2: theres two distinct sounds on the white and red tick
- 17:07 Mir: what about it
- 17:07 Hobbes2: not really hearing what would make it an extended slider
- 17:07 Mir: the wub
- 17:07 Mir: what
- 17:08 Mir: the synth
- 17:08 Hobbes2: yeah
- 17:08 Mir: i'd gladly skip the red for the synth o.o
- 17:08 Hobbes2: the synth has two sounds
- 17:08 Mir: 01:56:122 (1) - i do it here too
- 17:08 Mir: 01:58:265 (1) - and here
- 17:08 Mir: 02:01:265 (1) - and here
- 17:08 Mir: 02:02:122 (3,4,5,1) -
- 17:08 Mir: everyhwere
- 17:08 Hobbes2: oh
- 17:08 Hobbes2: i hear it
- 17:08 Hobbes2: okay
- 17:08 Hobbes2: sure
- 17:08 Mir: i don't follow the hihat if i can help it xd
- 17:08 Mir: synth > hihat anyday
- 17:09 Hobbes2: 02:02:122 (3,4,5) -
- 17:09 Hobbes2: wat
- 17:09 Hobbes2: i read ur response to lasse and it makes no sense
- 17:09 Hobbes2: lol
- 17:09 Hobbes2: it woudl have made sense if there were wubs at all
- 17:09 Mir: why
- 17:10 Hobbes2: theres no subs there
- 17:10 Mir: but i don't wanna map the little blippy stuff
- 17:10 Hobbes2: so how sthe blippy stuff overshowed
- 17:10 Hobbes2: *overshadowed
- 17:10 Mir: i wanna get the really noticeable synth
- 17:10 Hobbes2: if theres nothing to overshadow it
- 17:10 Hobbes2: the synth is like
- 17:10 Hobbes2: less noticeable than the 1/4 lol
- 17:10 Mir: wot
- 17:10 Mir: i didn't even notice the 1/4 till lasse mentioned it
- 17:10 Hobbes2: wat
- 17:10 Hobbes2: whatever subjective
- 17:11 Mir: yes, the synths are way way way cooler
- 17:11 Mir: subjective <:
- 17:11 Mir: plus when the synth goes away 02:03:837 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - you get your blippy 1/4
- 17:11 Hobbes2: 02:03:837 (1,1,2,3,4,1) - ngl
- 17:11 Hobbes2: blanket
- 17:12 Hobbes2: flows better too if you blanket it
- 17:12 Mir: how do you mean
- 17:13 Hobbes2: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8478548
- 17:14 Hobbes2: make the 4 circles line up with
- 17:14 Hobbes2: 02:03:837 (1) - 's approach circle
- 17:14 Mir: did you just
- 17:14 Mir: nazi me
- 17:14 Hobbes2: no
- 17:14 Mir: this nigga nazi'd me
- 17:14 Mir: changed
- 17:14 Hobbes2: it looks legitimately better
- 17:14 Hobbes2: it would be like if you did this
- 17:14 Mir: yeah im messing with you
- 17:14 Hobbes2: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8478561
- 17:15 Hobbes2: cancer
- 17:15 Hobbes2: uh anyway
- 17:15 Hobbes2: speaking of nazi
- 17:15 Hobbes2: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8478571 top 10 anime mistakes
- 17:15 Hobbes2: when u do these blanket patterns blanket the whole thing
- 17:16 Hobbes2: including 3 and 4
- 17:16 Mir: wtf is that
- 17:16 Mir: and where is it
- 17:16 Hobbes2: thats u
- 17:16 Hobbes2: 02:09:837 (5,1) -
- 17:16 Hobbes2: lol
- 17:17 Mir: isn't it?
- 17:17 Mir: oh whatever i made it closer i guess
- 17:17 Hobbes2: lol
- 17:18 Hobbes2: cute section after
- 17:18 Mir: nicenice
- 17:19 Hobbes2: nice break
- 17:20 Mir: do you want a 30 second spinner
- 17:20 Hobbes2: no
- 17:20 Hobbes2: its nice
- 17:20 Mir: :D
- 17:20 Mir: ikr
- 17:20 Mir: it's really nice with the bg
- 17:20 Hobbes2: i love breaks
- 17:20 Hobbes2: because i drift off the table
- 17:20 Hobbes2: 03:50:980 (5,1) - seems big
- 17:20 Mir: the ambience here is
- 17:20 Mir: top-notch tho
- 17:21 Mir: it's your imagination
- 17:21 Mir: :D
- 17:21 Hobbes2: seems big
- 17:21 Mir: it's your imagination
- 17:21 Hobbes2: k
- 17:21 Mir: downbeat emphasis :)
- 17:23 Hobbes2: 03:59:980 (1,2,1) -
- 17:23 Hobbes2: overspaced
- 17:23 Hobbes2: this aint no whammy kablammy
- 17:23 Hobbes2: its just..two soft synths
- 17:23 Hobbes2: 01:37:694 (1,2,1) -
- 17:23 Hobbes2: nice
- 17:23 Mir: o
- 17:31 Hobbes2: im
- 17:31 Hobbes2: still hre
- 17:31 Hobbes2: sorry was talking to cryptic
- 17:31 Mir: i was just wondering xD
- 17:32 Hobbes2: 04:17:551 (2,3) -
- 17:32 Hobbes2: wat
- 17:32 Mir: 04:03:837 (3,4) - wat
- 17:33 Hobbes2: they arent the same
- 17:33 Hobbes2: the first one has a distinct sound on the blue tick
- 17:33 Hobbes2: this one does not
- 17:33 Mir: hmm
- 17:34 Mir: ill triple it like it was before
- 17:34 Mir: wait
- 17:34 Mir: no.
- 17:34 Mir: listen there's the drum then the fade-in synth
- 17:34 Mir: drum, synth, vocal
- 17:35 Hobbes2: o
- 17:35 Hobbes2: bleh
- 17:35 Hobbes2: whatever
- 17:35 Hobbes2: fits fine
- 17:35 Hobbes2: i dont like it
- 17:35 Mir: :(
- 17:35 Hobbes2: well 04:24:194 (2,3,4,5) - is uniqe
- 17:35 Hobbes2: *unique
- 17:36 Hobbes2: 04:30:408 - did you forget to map this orr
- 17:36 Mir: huh?
- 17:36 Hobbes2: why isnt it mapped
- 17:36 Mir: no i left that out intentionally
- 17:36 Mir: there's like nothing there
- 17:37 Hobbes2: wut
- 17:37 Mir: like
- 17:37 Hobbes2: its like the same sound on the red tick
- 17:37 Mir: there's the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAA thing
- 17:37 Mir: but im not mapping that
- 17:37 Hobbes2: theres a distinct sound there
- 17:37 Hobbes2: ignore the eeyaa thing
- 17:37 Mir: i don't hear a sound the same as the red tick o.o
- 17:37 Hobbes2: ur wrong
- 17:37 Hobbes2: objectively
- 17:37 Hobbes2: just listen for it
- 17:37 Mir: ohhh
- 17:38 Mir: it's like dampened, then roasted, then eaten by a rancor and then shatout into that thing boba fett fell into
- 17:38 Mir: that's why i couldn't hear it
- 17:38 Hobbes2: its more noticeable than some of the stuff u say is audible LUL
- 17:38 Mir: SHHH
- 17:38 Mir: i HAVE BAD EARS
- 17:38 Hobbes2: i can hear it at 100%
- 17:38 Mir: >(
- 17:38 Hobbes2: me too
- 17:38 Hobbes2: LUL
- 17:39 Mir: <:
- 17:39 Hobbes2: 04:52:480 - :O
- 17:39 Hobbes2: why skipo
- 17:39 Hobbes2: 04:52:694 - theres like nothing here lol
- 17:39 Mir: hmm?
- 17:40 Mir: the blippy stuff?>
- 17:40 Hobbes2: dont map what u did map and map what u didnt map
- 17:40 Mir: i might delete that
- 17:40 Mir: and just leave like
- 17:40 Mir: a 3/2 gap
- 17:40 Hobbes2: a giant gap lol
- 17:40 Mir: ye lets do that
- 17:40 Hobbes2: 04:52:480 - just map this
- 17:40 Hobbes2: the 3/2 gap is weird and this is like
- 17:40 Hobbes2: actually audible
- 17:40 Hobbes2: so the gap wouldnt make sense
- 17:40 Mir: okay
- 17:40 Mir: yeah i hear it
- 17:40 Mir: hl
- 17:40 Mir: oly
- 17:40 Mir: i suck
- 17:41 Hobbes2: same
- 17:41 Hobbes2: ayy the extro lets see it
- 17:41 Hobbes2: cute
- 17:41 Hobbes2: alright update it so i can playtest
- 17:41 Hobbes2: because i forgot to do that earlier
- 17:42 Mir: gogo~
- 17:42 Hobbes2: god im rusty
- 17:42 Hobbes2: i have a tournament match tommorow i forgot that i signed up for
- 17:42 Mir: it's okay
- 17:42 Hobbes2: im gonna get smashed
- 17:42 Mir: oh
- 17:45 Hobbes2: how do i land most of the 1/4 jumps
- 17:45 Hobbes2: but nothing else
- 17:45 Hobbes2: cool
- 17:45 Mir: they play like butter
- 17:45 Mir: now enjoy the ambience
- 17:48 Hobbes2: cool
- 17:48 Hobbes2: the second kiai is really fun
- 17:48 Mir: that triange was too easy
- 17:48 Hobbes2: and rameses b is a really good
- 17:48 Mir: hacking code's are too hard
- 17:48 Hobbes2: guy
- 17:48 Mir: that one is too easy
- 17:48 Mir: smh
- 17:48 Hobbes2: lol
- 17:48 Mir: thanks~ :3
- 17:48 Hobbes2: idk how i landed it
- 17:48 Hobbes2: i forgot it was even there
- 17:48 Mir: it's so easy
- 17:48 Mir: instead of going downwards
- 17:48 Mir: i made you go upwards
- 17:49 Mir: it's almost impossible to miss if you concentrate
- 17:49 Hobbes2: ill check some shit real quick
- 17:49 Mir: alright~
- 17:49 Hobbes2: sorry ths is unrankable
- 17:49 Mir: fk
- 17:49 Hobbes2: kiai time is toggled on for less than 15 seconds
- 17:49 Hobbes2: reconsider your career
- 17:49 Mir: Damn it :(
- 17:50 Hobbes2: is soft-hitfinish2 used anywhere
- 17:50 Mir: sec
- 17:51 Mir: i don't think so?
- 17:51 Mir: does it say it is
- 17:51 Hobbes2: delete
- 17:51 Hobbes2: it then
- 17:51 Hobbes2: i didnt hear it anywehre in the map
- 17:51 Mir: it's gone
- 17:51 Hobbes2: cool
- 17:51 Mir: wait did you not even check it
- 17:51 Mir: >_>
- 17:51 Hobbes2: lol
- 17:51 Mir: through MA
- 17:52 Hobbes2: i did
- 17:52 Hobbes2: sometimes MA is wrong
- 17:52 Mir: oh ok
- 17:52 Hobbes2: so i was making sure
- 17:52 Hobbes2: nice image dimensions
- 17:52 Hobbes2: 1920x966
- 17:52 Hobbes2: the classic
- 17:52 Mir: thanks
- 17:52 Mir: pass.
- 17:53 Hobbes2: just stretch it kappa
- 17:53 Hobbes2: alright map seems fine
- 17:53 Mir: it'd ruin the image <:
- 17:53 Mir: this is the original <:
- 17:53 Hobbes2: nothing unrankable and the kiais are really well mapped
- 17:53 Hobbes2: and rameses b is bae
- 17:53 Hobbes2: so gj
- 17:53 Mir: did i please you daddy?~
- 17:53 Hobbes2: good luck!
- 17:54 Mir: wait
- 17:54 Mir: didn't you
- 17:54 Mir: i didn't
- 17:54 Mir: update the hitsound
- 17:54 Hobbes2: i didnt
- 17:54 Hobbes2: bubble it lol
- 17:54 Mir: that i deleted
- 17:54 Hobbes2: yet
- 17:54 Mir: oh
- 17:54 Hobbes2: do that first
- 17:54 Hobbes2: i was waiting
- 17:54 Mir: it sounded like you were going to
- 17:54 Hobbes2: LOL
- 17:54 Hobbes2: pranked 2.0
- 17:54 Mir: i went full fucking
- 17:54 Mir: panic mode
- 17:54 Mir: LOL
- 17:54 Hobbes2: im not that stupid :(
- 17:54 Mir: alright there we go
- 17:54 Mir: i know <3
- 17:54 Mir: post for kds btw
- 17:55 Mir: obviously
- 17:55 Hobbes2: no post
- 17:55 Hobbes2: no bubble
- 17:55 Hobbes2: :thinkong:
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