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  1.  
  2. ProfFarnsworth has joined ([email protected])
  3. ChanServ has changed mode: +b *!*infra@*.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net
  4. ChanServ has kicked ProfFarnsworth (User has been autokicked from the channel)
  5. Shotcaller
  6. did you mean crud?
  7. EonEcho
  8. I recommend you remove ProfFarnsworth from auto-kick.
  9. 16:00 EonEcho
  10. ProfFarnsworth is deeply concerned about justice in human societies and we all need to empower such people, not restrain them.
  11. Shotcaller
  12. does that help or hurt his case?
  13. EonEcho
  14. Shotcaller: The goal is to always do the right thing.
  15. EonEcho
  16. We identify the right thing with philosophy.
  17. Shotcaller
  18. EonEcho what was he Akicked for?
  19. EonEcho
  20. Shotcaller: He became angry and used uncivil language with uncivil people.
  21. EonEcho
  22. Hew as intolerant of intolerant people.
  23. Shotcaller
  24. EonEcho well there are rules
  25. EonEcho
  26. The norms of this channel is that civility is the highest value, which appears to be a bad value.
  27. EonEcho
  28. Shotcaller: We only want our rules to be the 'right rules'.
  29. Shotcaller
  30. if you dont follow rules you might be forced to face consequenses
  31. EonEcho
  32. We identify the 'right rules' with philosophy.
  33. Shotcaller
  34. EonEcho i highly doubt the room rules here utilize your metrics
  35. EonEcho
  36. Shotcaller: That is a non sequitur.
  37. EonEcho
  38. The room is not involved in the discussion.
  39. EonEcho
  40. It's just you and me.
  41. Shotcaller
  42. EonEcho it follows perfectly
  43. Shotcaller
  44. the room is involved since everyone is free to contribute
  45. Shotcaller
  46. if it was a room with just us i would agree
  47. EonEcho
  48. Shotcaller: I am discussing what should be, you're telling me what likely is.
  49. EonEcho
  50. People capable of philosophy are aware of that distinction, of course.
  51. Shotcaller
  52. yes i embrace reality, its a fault
  53. EonEcho
  54. That is a non sequitur.
  55. EonEcho
  56. Nobody is not embracing reality.
  57. EonEcho
  58. There is a distinction between normative and descriptive claims.
  59. Shotcaller
  60. you can call anything you please a non sequitur, that doesnt make it a truth
  61. EonEcho
  62. My goal is to call only those things which are non sequiturs non sequiturs.
  63. Shotcaller
  64. i was inquiring as to why ProfFarnsworth was akicked
  65. EonEcho
  66. That is one thing you did.
  67. EonEcho
  68. You did other things, too.
  69. Shotcaller
  70. you took it elsewhere
  71. EonEcho
  72. We each took it the things we valued.
  73. EonEcho
  74. You took it to banal descriptions of reality that all non-Dumbs are aware of.
  75. Shotcaller
  76. apparantly ProfFarnsworth broke the rules, and he is paying the price for that, im satisfied with the explaination
  77. EonEcho
  78. I took it to prescriptive claims based off the highest goals of our species across time.
  79. EonEcho
  80. Shotcaller: Are you concerned the rules may be bad rules?
  81. Shotcaller
  82. EonEcho now you are using ad hominems, i can safely ignore your following posts
  83. EonEcho
  84. Shotcaller: I put you on ignore for two weeks.
  85. EonEcho
  86. I did this because you dislike philosophy.
  87. MadCatX has left ()
  88. CaveGuy
  89. why is ProfFarnsworth akicked?
  90. EonEcho
  91. Violation of a bad rule is no violation at all.
  92. EonEcho
  93. CaveGuy: Did you see the prior dialogue?
  94. EonEcho
  95. It just happened.
  96. CaveGuy
  97. Shotcaller. i dont beleive that
  98. EonEcho
  99. I have constructed a brief novella for the dialogue of Shotcaller from just moments ago.
  100. EonEcho
  101. I hope that you like it:
  102. EonEcho
  103. <Shotcaller> Why was Tyrone beaten to death?
  104. EonEcho
  105. <Oracle> He violated the rules of his slave society.
  106. EonEcho
  107. <Shotcaller> That makes sense: rules are rules.
  108. EonEcho
  109. <Oracle> The rules of a slave society are unjust and need not be followed, however.
  110. EonEcho
  111. <Shotcaller> I embrace reality.
  112. EonEcho
  113. The End.
  114. EonEcho
  115. *87 year pause*
  116. EonEcho
  117. Young girl named Joanna is assigned the novella Tyrone and the Slave Society from 2019.
  118. EonEcho
  119. *quizzical look on Joanna's face*
  120. EonEcho
  121. <Instructor> What's the matter, precocious Joanna?
  122. Banquo has joined ([email protected])
  123. Raven`X has changed mode: +v Banquo
  124. EonEcho
  125. <Joanna> Why did Shotcaller not care about the way the mean slave owners treated Tyrone?
  126. CaveGuy
  127. Fuck tRump
  128. EonEcho
  129. <Instructor> *begins to provide sociological and psychological explanations attempting to explain and excuse Shotcaller's behavior some 87 years prior*
  130. EonEcho
  131. *Joanna looks unsatisfied*
  132. EonEcho
  133. *Instructor looks hopeful, as she may 'get it'*
  134. EonEcho
  135. *Joanna looks resolute as if she's finally stumble upon it*
  136. EonEcho
  137. <Joanna> *sticking tongue out* Instructor, I do not want to be a person people have to make excuses for 87 years from now. I will understand what reality is and how it should be. I will speak out as to the way Tyrone and other should be treated and that's that. *cross arms in defiance*
  138. EonEcho
  139. I hope you liked my play in two acts.
  140. EonEcho
  141. I worked really hard on it.
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