REVELATIONS BY INSIDER RONALD BERNARD - PART 4

RONALD BERNARD - REVELATIONS FROM AN INSIDER - INTERVIEW PART 4


Ronald Bernard: My wife asked me "if you really want to change the world, what do you need to change?" I said: "the banking system. The financial monetary system". We discussed this extensively in the second part. I already showed you how these mechanisms basically work that's what everyone can criticize, but then they need to do a good research for themselves, because you can find it on the websites of the central banks and the BIS, etc. It is just readable now. Why? The truth is put in front of you, for everybody. People need to make a choice and the "need" is really a need. No choice also means a choice. That is the time we are in now. Our free will is respected, is once again sanctified. Two traces start showing up now in the field, and it will be needed to make a choice, the Matrix is really going to play it's part. Are we going to stand up for ourselves, are we going to develop things ourselves again? Because what we are talking about, concerning the elections, we give our voice away. We give our right to others to make decisions for us. As long as we maintain that kind of mechanisms, worldwide, then we also make a choice, don't we? We choose their program. That is a slave program.

Irma Schiffers: By joining it, no responding and stand up against it, yes...

Ronald Bernard: Yes, so that is what I told my wife in France: it is the banking system, the monetary financial system. Then she replied: "well, that is where you came from?" I said: "but hello, I made this promise to myself that I would never go back in there". "Well", she said, "If this promise was to yourself, perhaps you can possibly break this promise for once?" If I say something or make a promise, I will always keep my promise. So that was very difficult for me. But I did it anyway, so for once in my life I broke a promise and it was to myself, in order to map that mechanism, the monetary system, the banking system, in any case. That model, and to create a tool, to offer. There are all kind of tools now being developed worldwide, offered to the people. Also concerning energy, in healthcare, the financial system; worldwide there are manifestations emerging. All of which are presented to us to do things differently.

Irma Schiffers: Because you are still in contact with people from the banking industry, but how do they respond to the story you bring about?

Ronald Bernard: Well, very positive.

Irma Schiffers: Oh?

Ronald Bernard: Yes. Because at first... I got a lot of support from people who are still serving in this world, in the "old" world. "Wow, you have the guts to tell people about the things we do." That was one of them. They are also caught, you know. Those people want to get out. There are not so many bankers who are independent. Those are the bribed ones, they know everything. But most people within the banking systems are - just like everybody - stuck with a mortgage, with a family, they are deeply in dept, depending on their position. Just sayin', it is not all black and white, right? It is not us and them, we also need to reconsider that dualistic principle. So these people are giggling inside and they really hope for people to stand up and choose different, "so we can finally do something good". Please do not expect that every banker is a hero, who will sacrifice everything by telling what is going on in their world.

Irma Schiffers: No, so you mean to say that they are on the tip of their chair to tell it, they don't have the guts to do it and they're waiting until they get the support of the population.

Ronald Bernard: Yes. Because they are, until today... actually not interested, I mean to say... what is the average person talking about? No, you need public support. You can not expect everyone to be a hero. So yes, as long as the people do not vote differently, are not standing up, everything remains as it is. So that is one thing. I was... I was in a meeting with an ex-top banker. And this man got a message on his cellphone from a colleague who is still in the business. He said "Well, what do you think just happened? One of our former colleagues is telling about "bla bla bla", etc." And he sees it and said: "Ronald, look what I just got from an ex-colleague from the top".

Irma Schiffers: Fantastic!

Ronald Bernard: He said "I will tell him - Yes, that's right, because he is sitting next to me right now". People who came out of this world, maybe it will surprise you but the people who did have the courage to escape the system are jumping into the deep and they no longer live an easy life. They also need support. And a kind of shelter. If we approach all those bankers, armed with a knife, saying "you are a banker"... Because there are some people, there are children from bankers who rather say during their lecture at school that their father is a pole dancer in a homo bar, instead of telling that their father is a banker.

Irma Schiffers: Yes, I also heard of that.

Ronald Bernard: Yes, so it is very difficult for a lot of people to get out of it, if the people think black and white about everything there is, right? Then only a few will be released, most of the times it occurs through crisis, and what we see is a lot of bankers who are released through suicide. That is also a way to get out.

Irma Schiffers: Yes, they fly from their own bank buildings without wings...

Ronald Bernard: Yes, it always has to do with so-called "accidents", but for a lot of people it is very intense. In fact, I can say that in the top layers, actually in all layers, many people are waiting for breakthroughs, for support from the population, but that does not happen so much. Most people prefer to stay behind their keyboards and their "life" I talked about; their beer, their wine, or whatever... "Oh, we are fine!"

Irma Schiffers: But that is also deliberately programmed, as you said earlier, by mass psychology, manipulation, propaganda...

Ronald Bernard: Yes, but that does not relieve you from the responsibility, right?

Irma Schiffers: No, that is right.

Ronald Bernard: That does not relieve you, because you still have inner feelings.

Irma Schiffers: Yes, but...

Ronald Bernard: We are not robots.

Irma Schiffers: No, but personally I think, if you are spending lots of time behind the television, "in front of the TV" I should better say...

Ronald Bernard: Yes.

Irma Schiffers: ...then it seems to be that you get swept away, or you are programmed, which makes you more powerless by losing touch or intuiton.

Ronald Bernard: Yes, people often experience a lot of powerlessness. The footage of Syria are shown to us, and we already talked about the things behind all that.

Irma Schiffers: Yes.

Ronald Bernard: You know what, sometimes I really do not know what needs to be done here on earth to get people moving because they are still sitting in their chair. And I do not refer to violent rebellion of some kind. No, I am talking about making connections. Unite. See who we really are, that is actually the only thing that matters. Oneness in diversity. I am not sure if I talked about this previously, but the metaphor behind it is, look at your body. Did I mention this before? About the little cells in our body?

Irma Schiffers: No.

Ronald Bernard: Our body is made up of all cells, of course it has deeper layers but this is concerning the cells. And every cell is unique and has its own function and role. And it works together with all the other little cells. And thus makes its entire vehicle. The entire body. And we, here on earth - humanity - every human being is a unique cell. And if it is going to function as a body, we get a bigger manifestation of a body. Because everyone has his unique capabilities, his unique talent. Those are most of the time the things that make you happy. But then you can say "but oh, if I am going to do this I have no income anymore..." Yes, but wait...we are a whole, which is not utopia, we "ARE" a whole, but we just believe in the illusion that we are not a whole because we are stuck in the dualistic program. But if we get the courage to do this, like I always do on a small scale with - for example - a thousand men on a housing project, then you already see that body emerge. Because we all have the same ambition, the same goals and everyone is using their talents. And then it appears to be one body that perfectly fills each other, and together you build the most impossible things. At least, that was their thought. And that's the point...

Irma Schiffers: Yes. And that awareness is needed.

Ronald Bernard: Yes. Yes.

Irma Schiffers: And therefore it is good that you share this story.

Ronald Bernard: Yes, someone will have to do it once, you know. And yet, I really did not know where it would lead me. I really did not know. Which applies to all, from pregnancy, the baby to be born, to the future. When we chose to decide things together within the family, we did not have a clue about the things to come. If we had known, we really did not do this so to speak, because... jeez..! This is the toughest route ever. But we are determined about that. Finally we want... because our love of children has expanded enormously, we finally want to face every child on earth so we can say "dear child, we did everything, really everything to make your future, your world a better place." Because if we don't, you do not want to live anymore. And yet I ask every father and every mother, and everyone who loves a child "How much do you really love your child? How much do you really love your child? HOW MUCH DO YOU REALLY LOVE YOUR CHILD?" "Feel" about it, no "thinking". Thinking destroys more than you want. Go and feel how much you really love your child. Or all other children, maybe you are a grandfather, maybe you are an uncle, an aunt. It does not matter to me, everybody has some kind of connection with children. They are our future. What legacy we are giving them? Based on the current vampire system we are wrecking the earth, we do not even have an earth to live on anymore in the future. Did you think all those poisonings have no impact? Don't you think that if we do not make choices that a third world war will be a nice trip? Because that is the target they are aiming for if they need it, when nobody is deciding once there will be a third world war and that is not fear-mongering. Just take a look around this world to see what's happening they did not put those nuclear weapons down for no reason as a piece of art or whatever, all the things created by humanity have been used by them so far. Let's hope that's not going to happen. That people choose to walk a different path. If they have to, they are going to use them, because then we made a choice. After the Second World War we also know. After the Second World War we all knew it at once: No more war! No, we embraced the universal declaration of human rights. Yes, we went for it. Every human being on earth; no hunger anymore, clothes, a job, a roof over your head, wow, we were all so positive at once. It did not take long and it was gone. And since the Second World War until today we have had more wars and had more victims than in the entire Second World War. Did we learn something? Did we really come to our hearts? Are we really going to feel what it's all about? Did we really become human? Did we really stand up, did we really begin to love our children? I see little of that. We are offering junkfood to our children. Junkfood. Their whole youth is being spoiled. We create zombies that do not even come from behind their screen. Step up the train, 80 or 90% of the people is just focused on their screen. Is this the world we want? It is all based on free will, you know. So it is needed, it is needed. I am so glad you guys dare to do this, you really are golden. I hope people will realize that too. That they will realize you did everything for free. And that you have no income. If there are 16 or 18 million people listening all over the world, would it not be of little trouble to donate for example 1 dollar or 1 euro or whatever to you, symbolically fromt the heart? So you can even build a normal life and can invest in your teams? So that you can create a stage for the whole world? For all those people who also want to be heard? Because since that first interview I received testimonials, also from dentists who became biological dentist, of which the entire pharmaceutical industry has gotten over them, and have been financially broken, their lives were threatened, they still fight for their existence, perhaps they also want to speak out.

Irma Schiffers: They are very welcome.

Ronald Bernard: Yes, and so... I met a woman, she nowadays runs a therapeutic center for top-managers. Top managers, women, you really do not want to know what they have gone through during their life, from their childhood, concerning abuse and mistreatment. This is the reason why they are in the top, they can turn off everything. Just like me, I do not succeed so often anymore, because... and there I go again... But by acting very tough, women will reach the top. I got testimonials from a woman who has been abused in satanic circles until 13 years of age. There is so much suffering, there is so much grief. There is so much sorrow in the Netherlands. It is incredible, but yes... We are here in the biggest black hole in the universe. I am not sure if you are aware of that? Holland is the darkest hole on earth. Almost all shit originated from this country. So it is our task to turn it around from out of the Netherlands. If I can trust the testimonies from the "Dalai Lama", or whatever his name is, friends of mine went two times to this congress, when he visited the Netherlands, the "Daili Laima" or whatever, to me it is always hard to pronounce,...

Irma Schiffers: Dalai Lama...

Ronald Bernard: ...and he said: "the transition, the great changes on earth, they will emerge from the Netherlands and are spreading all over the world."

Irma Schiffers: I am convinded of that.

Ronald Bernard: I had a big laugh back then, I thought "what is this man babbling about?" But it starts to come clear that this man has had some foresight. Things have to be solved here. The shit started here and it will end here, and from here the good things will arise.

Irma Schiffers: The "Dutch Vision Movement"...

Ronald Bernard: Yes, make that happen, the "Dutch Vision Movement". Yes, absolutely, do it! Because it is so desperately needed. We were responsible for the slavery, right? We established the cocaine industry. What do you think of the oil companies?

Irma Schiffers: The Bilderberg-group.

Ronald Bernard: The deltas of Nigeria, totally destroyed, including the people. Our oilcompanies. We can... turn the black pages a thousand times, and we still do not see a single blank page, our VOC, Indonesia, how much do you need, it is awful.

Irma Schiffers: We are writing one here right now...

Ronald Bernard: We are masters in creating innovation, but we used it in a wrong way.

Irma Schiffers: One of the questions people asked is "why is he still alive, because that would mean that he is protected from out of the "world" he is talking about, and yes, that smells a bit like "controlled opposition". What's up with that?

Ronald Bernard: Yes, I received the same question.

Irma Schiffers: Okay.

Ronald Bernard: No, because it is very understandable from the world we know. I mean, if you do something against certain powerful rulers, they do not hesitate to invade a country, right? Most of the time it is about monetary affairs, like Khadaffi which at one point had a golden dinar and a number of things and then they invaded his country and Khadaffi was killed off. So they do not hesitate to kill people. So I can understand this question very well, because the world I come from is a very tough one. But I signed a contract, I think I told you about that in part 1 and that is for life. And what I was briefly talking about is my tapering off-period, in which I began to refuse to do things, and that they took me. You said to me "perhaps they equipped you with programs". No, that is not the point, but what I experienced back then from treatments and tortures was intended as an excitation, to ensure my silence for the rest of my life. That was one thing that was really evident. "Don't you think you can get away with this, in no way". And what they made very clear to me, because ahh, when it was all about myself, I would come over it, but what they made very clear during that "treatment", and it is hard to imagine now for whoever, but once you are involved in this, you really can understand what they are talking about, it is not only concerning me, but it has also to do with your bloodlines. So it was also about your wife, your children and name it, everyone might have an accident or whatever. That was already a lot more of "heavy artillery" what they brought in. The only thing I put in front for them, because... it is insane to tell this, but despite of the tortures there was also a sort of "bargain" involved. I was able to tell that I also built up a dossier with sensitive information. Because I am not stupid either, I knew the level I was playing.

Irma Schiffers: So, your life insurance...

Ronald Bernard: Yes. Yes, that has also contributed to those shady dealings. We did not split up as friends, you can not put it that way. They have made me completely rotten... Well, the finishing touch came from my body itself, I died. But there was more. The companies I ran were under constructions. Offshore-constructions. It was one of the specialties to do it that way. They also made me - I better say "forced me, because what were my choices anyway - is to renounce my business and my asssets, the official business, what I built up. So everything I did build up, so to speak through them, was headed straight... well, just return the keys. So in that sense, there was also no way out. All of that happened in that period. I was finally released. I was still busy with phasing out. I am - and no one could provide it - collapsed, hospitalized, and from that moment on I disappeared. And I disappeared for a long time. I need to say that too. I did not only stay in some clinics, for a very long time I stayed under the radar. My wife who became my ex-wife soon after, was hiding with the children, she also fled. We were all hiding for a long period of time. All out of anxiety, all out of fear for things that could happen to us. Because in one way or another I perhaps redeemed my own life, but you do not trust it to be real. So after I was discharged from the clinics and became physically "fine" so to speak, I never returned into the system. I started to live a life outside the system. So I did not have contact with my loved ones, this lasted eleven years, right? Everybody thinks "oh, it's all so easy what I am telling", for eleven years I had... and then they will say "yes, but this bastard deserves it, of course!" Yes, I got everything back what I've invested in negativity. I can assure you that it is far worse to live with the knowledge that you still have children out of reach, you do not know if they are still alive, how they are doing, that is far worse than when you know your child is dead. That is also quite awful, but this is much worse. So for all people missing their child, I know what this is like. That is the worst thing that can happen. In that way, without bank accounts or even without something legal, I was living for a long time. In those days I went abroad. It was only many years later, because that was in... 2002, 2003 that I for myself and my family, everybody was like... indeed everyone abides by the agreements. It is over. Then I slowly came back and I came more and more in the picture. So yes, on one hand I was lucky, on the other hand; I died, but I survived. I do not have a complete answer to all of this, it has been the providence. I heard something about "higher power", if I... What was I for example?

Irma Schiffers: Abduction, I asked, or... "controlled opposition."

Ronald Bernard: Ah yes, controlled opposition. Well... what I can explain to everyone on earth is that I am a free man. Of course I am an entrepreneur during my whole life, that is the feeling I always have with me but I really can claim this. I also told that I have come to believe, I would like to say that I am not a member of any religious movement, I do not belong to any organization except for an organization that I am now part of. I am not allowed to advertise but I am part of the United People Foundation. That is the only thing I am commited to, I am connected with. That has to do with this manifestation I talked about in an earlier stage. But for the rest I am fully independent. Free. Yes? And concerning that, that goes beyond the earthly stuff, I appeal to the eternal. I am free forever. And for the people who... the muslim-world respects or acknowledges the Holy Book, not only the Koran, but also the Old Testament, the Torah, and the New Testament, it is fully acknowledged by the muslims. And I appeal to John 3:16. John 3:16 is sacred to me, and I believe in that, so I am redeemed.

Irma Schiffers: Which means?

Ronald Bernard: That is an article about the creator of heaven and earth, who states that his first born son, in the translation it is said to be his only son, but that is nonsense, it is the first born son is sacrificed for all mankind, so they are all free. That is a free translation of what the real purists will try to break down, but this is what it means to me. Everything has become a breakthrough, everything is redeemed, everything negative is gone. Why? Because of the breakthrough. And that is what I already explained in part 1. The moment we - the people - are going to stand up as a manifestation of light, everything will disappear. Because every negativity, remaining on earth, is through us: we are the channel. So people who will allow the negativity to flow through them, they are no longer powerful, a breakthrough is achieved, they will get their "status", their ambition, their money, their career, whatever... They will be bought. Their soul is taking over. At the very moment someone decides "I do not want this anymore", it is gone. That is what I meant when I said "if we are standing up with the mass, we are the manifestation of light". Then all the shit on earth will disappear. Because that shit no longer exists. We maintain it.

Irma Schiffers: And thereby "controlled opposition" no longer exists.

Ronald Bernard: No, nothing exists anymore. But so I am fully free. Redeemed. I stand with it, and no one can claim me. In that sense, nobody here on earth can claim me. I can deal with anybody, because I live from inclusivity. Who am I to judge about someone else? That sounds almost biblical, oh well, but there are just certain truths. Because you come to this story of the prostitute. In the bible there was a prostitute which was thrown at the feet of Jeshua, most people know him as Jesus. And he said to the people "okay, she was a prostitute or she played for whore...

Irma Schiffers: Mary Magdalena...

Ronald Bernard: ...and then he said "if your slate is clean, then you can throw stones". Nobody. Because if we all are honest, we all have something that's not right. Lies or whatever... So I work from inclusivity, my mission is a good management of all life. I said it before, I care about the children. Everybody who joins or can find themselves in a good management of life, of all life, is welcome. And of course you may come from a dark hole, fine. Perhaps you, just like me, have been up to everything, fine. Take your own responsibility, take the consequences, but don't be afraid. Because there is a whole network of people welcoming you. Because every talent you are using for evil, you can also use for good. And that is what we are waiting for. And everyone who stays there, fine. But on a certain moment it will not work out well. Because you die, sooner or later. You eat yourself. So, I am alive and yes, I am protected. But not by earthly things. It is about - as I call it - the creator of heaven and earth. And no, I am not a religious fanatic or whatever. I have faith. I have faith and if I had not, I would not have been here. Because my oh my, you put everything at risk.


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PREVIEW PART 5

Ronald Bernard:

- The file was activated when it suited them.

- We know it is actually already time-barred, but according to the European new legislation is nothing time-barred anymore. Even if you did it in 1920, you just have to go to account in Belgium.

- And so I was in one tiny little moment... bound in chains again and I was taken away to a prison in Belgium in the most heavy section, among the biggest psychopaths you can imagine.