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- Qualia - Today at 6:05 PM
- Hey Shaun, are you there?
- Shaun - Today at 6:05 PM
- Oh this is awkward
- Hey Nat
- Natalie - Today at 6:06 PM
- Hello Shaun :)
- Welcome to the interview for the Forum Moderator position!
- Shaun - Today at 6:06 PM
- And yes I am here xD
- Qualia - Today at 6:06 PM
- Haha, don't worry. My interviews aren't too formal. Just a good chat and a few questions
- Shaun - Today at 6:06 PM
- Sounds good
- Qualia - Today at 6:07 PM
- So, Shaun. You're applying to be a forum mod. You've covered your prior experience with similiar roles in your application. Can you tell me a little more about your duties in those positions?
- Shaun - Today at 6:08 PM
- Just to clarify, my previous positions?
- Qualia - Today at 6:08 PM
- You have experience being a mod before, right?
- Shaun - Today at 6:08 PM
- Yep
- So on Insanity, which was probably where I was staff for the longest
- It was mainly just dealing supervising, dealing with google advertisement bots (and dealing with them through the modCP). Making sure people didn't gravedig (necropost), infracting people when going off topic, making sure that threads are in the right section, making sure people didn't clutter the forums with excessive things such as multiple market threads.
- I also worked on the servers item mall on the website, adding fashion sets
- Which is where I was temporarly given administrator to do so
- Qualia - Today at 6:10 PM
- Great. Did you enjoy this work?
- Shaun - Today at 6:10 PM
- Of course, it would have been more enjoyable if the owners had the same passion as me but :p
- Eventually down the line (years down the line) I kind of gave up
- Years with no updates
- Constant lying to the community pretending it would all be okay
- Qualia - Today at 6:11 PM
- I'm curious to hear more about this difference between you and the admins. That must have been a stressful position to be in at times. How did you deal with all this?
- Shaun - Today at 6:11 PM
- So on there
- The administrators have never really changed
- It's kind of like a group of friends if that makes sense?
- From the very beginning I got hired, I was trying to be very positive and encourage that we really fix the problems present both ingame and on the forums
- (Since I was a moderator in both)
- In the beginning the relationship was okay, but it really takes a toll on you
- It did kind of affect my work ethic, staying motivated is one thing but when you work for someone you want the same out of them, that you put in.
- And I just wasn't getting that.
- Heres an example of the item mall additions by the way
- It's also important to note that on ther
- A staff position is nothing more than a glorified help desk
- You are not given any real powers ingame to deal with problems, all bans/mutes etc were done through admins only and they were very inactive
- As such we had a backlog of tickets on our website, ranging up to 100+ at a time
- I did answer as many as I could but without the proper permissions, a lot of us staff members were found unable to really do anything about it xD
- Qualia - Today at 6:15 PM
- I can see why that would take a toll on you. It's all too common in the flyff pserver scene. Was there ever a time when you publicly sided with the community due to the staff's lack of ethics?
- Shaun - Today at 6:15 PM
- There was, yes.
- I did go against their wishes near the end of my position as staff.
- Qualia - Today at 6:15 PM
- Can you tell me about that?
- Shaun - Today at 6:15 PM
- And I only did so because a staff team should not lie to their community.
- Insanity is a shroud of lies
- You can tell so when you go on the website
- The counter on the website is multiplied 3.5x
- They have promised something known as "FlyFF HD"
- High definition graphics, as such they have put off all content and a lot of bug fixes for years.
- As staff we are told to tell people that this new game will be the next big thing etcetc
- All PR bullshit
- Near the end I just told them exactly what was going on behind the scenes
- Nothing was being done
- They promised all the bugs would be fixed in FlyFF HD
- Nothing had changed on it
- Our server owner, Hells is pretty notorious too
- He was giving donators behind the scenes deals
- That were ruining the economy
- I'm talking like ruining it bad.
- Over there 500 euros gets you 75000 IPoints
- He was doing 500 euros for doubel that behind the scenes
- I think one thing that kind of led me to make that decision was at the time, it had been over a year and a half of constant bullshit. And just like them, I was a player of the game. I wanted to see improvement and it just wasn't happening. I didn't want to be lied too but I knew the truth
- And admittedly, the player base kind of knew the truth as well. I was just rehashing prior knowledge to some xD
- Qualia - Today at 6:20 PM
- That's some terrible stuff. Sorry to hear you were subjected to that and expected to cover the lies. Ignite flyff is definitely much different from that. In saying that, though, there are times when details cannot be revealed to players for various reasons and for a staff member to undermine that would also be a terrible thing. Tell me why you do or do not think that would be an issue here
- Shaun - Today at 6:20 PM
- I absolutely agree.
- I would never leak any confidential information of course, however there is an exception to that.
- If a server is blatantly lying to people
- Especially one that has income
- I would much rather not be a part of that staff team.
- That's different here though.
- They have a good vision and it's genuine.
- I would do everything I could in order to help that, so in terms of confidentiality and keeping things private within the team, then yeah
- I would never let anything go out. All I did in the past was honestly try and force the owner to own up to his bullshit
- I hate corruption xD
- Qualia - Today at 6:22 PM
- Ok, thanks for that.
- Is there ever a time when you would feel a white lie would be best for the server?
- Shaun - Today at 6:23 PM
- I think it was a very emotional thing for me
- Being led on etc
- That depends
- On the circumstance
- Qualia - Today at 6:23 PM
- I can definitely understand that
- Shaun - Today at 6:23 PM
- Keeping the community happy is very important
- If there was a need to cover something up for the greater good
- Provided the situation was right, I could kind of see it being okay
- But that's very dependent on the circumstance
- Because there are many different forms of white lies xD
- For the most part I would always prefer honesty
- Qualia - Today at 6:24 PM
- I can understand the need for that answer. And I appreciate your honesty
- Shaun - Today at 6:24 PM
- Sometimes
- We need to consider things for the greater good
- That's just how the world works
- So if something did arise where that situation actually occured
- Qualia - Today at 6:24 PM
- I can definitely understand a utilitarian approach like that
- Shaun - Today at 6:24 PM
- I wouldn't necessarily be against it
- But
- It's really subjective
- Qualia - Today at 6:25 PM
- It is. Ok thanks, we best move on to the next question!
- How much knowledge do you have of the server specific info/gameplay?
- Shaun - Today at 6:26 PM
- Pretty good I'd say
- Enough to answer a lot of questions
- The only part that's lacking is probably the technichal side
- Like if someone was to post an error log
- I wouldn't be able to instantly help them
- In terms of general knowledge like, what direction to go in, information about classes
- I've been playing this game 9 years and this server isn't that different
- I've already become acustomed to most of its systems
- So I feel pretty confident I could answer questions absolutely up to at least a GM level
- but I think the best part about being a GM is that
- You also learn more about the game
- As people ask you questions xD
- Same as FM really
- Qualia - Today at 6:27 PM
- That's good to know, and I appreciate your honesty about those technical problems
- Shaun - Today at 6:27 PM
- You get exposed to different kind of things
- I think in time I'd be able to help with the basic ones
- But for now I'd probably have to link them to our tech support on discord or give the standard reinstall reply
- Qualia - Today at 6:27 PM
- How much time do you think you would have to offer our team for work?
- Shaun - Today at 6:28 PM
- I think I could offer a fair bit on the forums to be honest, I'm usually always on my phone when I'm awake and I'm not doing much right now, so there would definitely be several hours avaliable
- The forums right now are very quiet however
- Qualia - Today at 6:28 PM
- per day?
- Shaun - Today at 6:28 PM
- Probably like 8 realistically
- More if needed
- Say if we got hit by a bunch of spam bots
- I would be monitoring them more actively
- Qualia - Today at 6:29 PM
- That's understandable
- Oh yeah, Nat, feel free to chime in if you have any questions
- Natalie - Today at 6:29 PM
- You mentioned in your application that you wanted to integrate the forums and in-game some. Could you explain to us more about what you had in mind when saying this, and perhaps elaborate on some of your potential future plans if you were to be hired?
- Shaun - Today at 6:29 PM
- Back when I used to work there
- We had a lot of events that required players
- To do something ingame
- And then post their results on the forums, you've also done the same
- Events such as
- Fashion of the week (or seasonal depending on what's coming up, i.e: Valentines day)
- There was one I really liked where we took a picture ingame and used an application to turn it into puzzle pieces
- We'd shout ingame to check the forums and players would have to figure out where we are
- By completing the puzzle
- I have a few things in mind but I'd have to brainstorm for a bit and write more things down
- I think that as a team we should definitely be working together more to get people involved on the forums more. But at the moment
- People are mianly interested in rewards (so events)
- Once we get people stuck on there we can probably look at better things
- Natalie - Today at 6:31 PM
- So basically more Forum-related events that correspond to in-game activity then. Both for short-term events that are ongoing at the very same moment, and the ones that last for a few weeks?
- Shaun - Today at 6:32 PM
- I feel like if we had forum events every week
- It would definitely expose more people
- We managed to keep a fashion of the week event going for like 30 weeks at one point
- There are many different kinds of apporaches we can take
- But I think we could really look into hosting these events frequently
- Weekly/Fortnightly, whatever works.
- It doesn't really cost us anything, the rewards don't have to be that much either.
- It's just about getting peopled involved
- The usage of forums has kind of decayed recently
- Due to the introduction of discord
- That is shown over many different platforms
- Qualia - Today at 6:33 PM
- Is that something that you would be willing to take control of and employ yourself?
- Shaun - Today at 6:33 PM
- But I still think we could use our forums for a lot
- Absolutely
- Given the permission
- Qualia - Today at 6:33 PM
- Great
- Shaun - Today at 6:33 PM
- I would like to be able to work with the GMs ingame
- Because obviously
- As a forum moderator
- There is no way to really advertise anything
- No powers ingame
- And you know
- The more people working on something
- The better results
- Especially with two new GMs
- Qualia - Today at 6:35 PM
- I can definitely understand the more synergistic/whole approach. Perhaps in the near future this would be something to put into practice on Ignite.
- Shaun - Today at 6:35 PM
- The main part about hosting a lot of events is that we can't introduce our community into a environment which will lead them to be spoiled
- Have to maintain a good balance
- Events are good both ingame and on the forums
- But we can't really go overboard
- We could look into adding custom titles later on as well honestly, maybe even a forum shop if things really went well
- But thats wayyy down the line
- Qualia - Today at 6:38 PM
- I have one more question about our current forums. It's about applying a subjectively correct amound of moderation and, if required, censorship. Can you tell me about what that means to you? And include when these things need to be put into practice. Consider current/recent threads on the forums if you like.
- Shaun - Today at 6:38 PM
- I understand the need for complaints sometimes. But it gets overexcessive.
- And the bandwagon effect is something very real in the world.
- If a thread was getting over the top, I would absolutely attempt to at the very least calm the situation down, if not silence it.
- If we were to use a realsitic situation for our server
- The current complaints about several different things are very clear, people making quitting threads pointing out problems etc
- Now for the most part, I think we do need to let some of that be shown, because it shows our staff that we can definitely improve in some areas. If they already know that, then I feel like more needs to be done at getting that out to the community
- So they also know that there are fixes in mind.
- But when people do go over the top
- I think firstly I would try and talk to them privately
- And if that didn't work, then actual moderation would be applied
- The thing about a lot of people qqing is that
- If you silence them without telling them, they'll just keep qqing and lose more faith
- Gotta approach it properly.
- Qualia - Today at 6:41 PM
- Ok, thanks for the detailed answer.
- I don't have any more questions for you. Natalie, do you have anything else you wish to cover?
- Natalie - Today at 6:41 PM
- I do have one more question too! How do you think your personal relations will affect your judgement when applying moderation to the forums?
- Shaun - Today at 6:42 PM
- If someone broke the rules, they could be married to me and I'd still give them the same punishment.
- They should know better
- No need for bias
- Rules are rules
- But for the most part, many of the rules allow warnings
- Unless they are severe (such as advertising, having illict things in posts/sigs) etc
- Natalie - Today at 6:43 PM
- Alright, that's good to hear :)
- Shaun - Today at 6:43 PM
- I think that
- Staff members should not be exempt from that either
- If a GM is breaking the rules and going off topic
- I do believe they should be spoken too
- Obviously not in the same way as a player
- But I'd still let them know
- Natalie - Today at 6:44 PM
- If a person of superior rank to you were to break the rules, or behave in a way you think is inappropriate, would you still take it up with them?
- Shaun - Today at 6:44 PM
- Absolutely
- If they were not willing to listen
- Then there would be something wrong with how the staff worked
- I believe that being a part of the staff is being a part of a team
- Regardless of your position
- Rules are rules
- No one is exempt from that
- I mean I wouldn't go and outright harass them
- But a reminder is definitely not a bad thing, we are all human right?
- Natalie - Today at 6:45 PM
- Okay, thank you for your honest answers :)
- Qualia - Today at 6:45 PM
- Would you do this publicly? or privately?
- Shaun - Today at 6:45 PM
- Privately
- Publically causes drama
- Qualia - Today at 6:45 PM
- Thanks
- Shaun - Today at 6:46 PM
- If they see that staff are arguing publicly
- That is bad both for our image
- And for how we work as a team
- Qualia - Today at 6:46 PM
- Anything further Natalie?
- Natalie - Today at 6:46 PM
- No, I think I covered what I wanted to know, it looks good to me!
- Qualia - Today at 6:47 PM
- Ok, great. Do you have any questions for us Shaun?
- Shaun - Today at 6:47 PM
- Only one really
- Since you are both staff
- What do you want to see out of the serve
- Server
- Its a bit
- I dunno
- Hard to answer
- But what do you want from here
- Qualia - Today at 6:47 PM
- I'm happy to go first.....
- Shaun - Today at 6:48 PM
- Its 8am for Nat
- And she hasn't slept
- So I don't really mind if there is no answer from her hahah
- But I'm just interested
- Everyone has their own reasons afor playing
- Qualia - Today at 6:48 PM
- I'll keep it brief haha, but yes...
- Shaun - Today at 6:48 PM
- And for helping/staffing
- Qualia - Today at 6:49 PM
- I'd like to see the server retain around 1k players and continue the plan to roll out the content we have been talking about and working on.
- I'd also love to have the most harmonious community around
- in the pserver scene
- which is a massive feat, but thats my personal goal
- It's also a learning experience for me. I love self improvement.
- Shaun - Today at 6:50 PM
- I like that answer
- Qualia - Today at 6:50 PM
- That's my answer :smiley:
- Natalie - Today at 6:51 PM
- First of all, I think the Staff behind this server has a really great mentality when it comes to both handling community and approach to the game itself. It is a game I grew up with and love, and of course I spend a lot of my hours playing it, so I would like to keep it growing and shape it in a way that I think would improve the game itself, in a way that was never achievable on the official game. Secondly, I love helping people and making everyone else smile or have a little bit better day, so I do my best to try and help them. So if I can both enjoy myself in a game I love, and do something that I love doing in life, at once, then I'm happy.
- Shaun - Today at 6:51 PM
- That's great
- I want to be able to contribute both as a player and a staff member
- I play the game and enjoy it
- Natalie - Today at 6:51 PM
- And for the server itself, I hope it continues to grow, and that we continue to expand our Australian community
- Shaun - Today at 6:51 PM
- But I'd also like to help outside of that
- XD
- Insanity FlyFF for me
- had so much potential
- Qualia - Today at 6:52 PM
- Ok, great. Well I think that sums it all up for now!
- Shaun - Today at 6:52 PM
- I watched it all disappear over the years I was there
- This has even more
- I don't want a repeat
- I want to see it succeed
- Qualia - Today at 6:52 PM
- I'm glad to hear
- well, read. haha
- Shaun - Today at 6:52 PM
- The people who own this server are genuine and they are not about the money.
- That is the big indicator for me that it can go far
- People run these games for money
- It's different here
- Qualia - Today at 6:53 PM
- I'll be in touch as soon as practical with an answer for you :smiley:
- Thanks for your time!
- Shaun - Today at 6:54 PM
- No worries
- Natalie - Today at 6:54 PM
- Thanks for the chat, and have a good day :)
- Shaun - Today at 6:54 PM
- You too
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