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- I think there's a spark but I wanna b honest n say that I don't think I'm in a position to b able to like.. pursue a romance in any capacity rn. I remember we spoke briefly before u left but it was early in the morning n I didn't know how to express myself in any concise way. I think we should pursue this bond as friends tho fer sure. I'm not sure I hope that doesn't sound blunt I just don't have a mind that thinks romantically rn
- I rly appreciate everything this is tho
- I just wanned to b clear so we don't step on each other's toes at all
- The "friends" thing hurts more then saying you're just not interested.
- Whys that
- I don't think it's a matter of interest or not rly
- Its more kinda just where I'm at
- It means you want me in your life on your terms. Without respect to mine.
- Oh I mean
- I know what you mean.
- I just don't go from potential romance to friends.
- 😞👌🏽
- I mean when you left you kinda just said we could pursue it either way
- Cos either way there was potential for us to be close
- And I didn't rly know how to respond at the time
- That's before I broke up with my lover of 3 months because he wanted to be "friends"
- What dyu mean what happened
- And I've been
- learning a lot about why people say "friends." And I don't like it.
- What dyu think ppl mean when they say friends
- The same as any other guy really. Not emotionally unavailable.
- Right that's devastating I'm rlly srry AJ
- Here is a good article.
- I wish you the best of luck. ☺️ https://www.google.com/amp/s/thoughtcatalog.com/mike-zacchio/2016/03/im-sorry-but-we-cant-just-be-friends/amp/
- Gimme a minute
- Alrighty.
- I understand that sentiment I've felt it before too honestly
- I think it's hard the whole idea of maintaining a friendship especially after an ongoing romance like it seems like a construct that's only made for tv
- Actually those are the only types of people who I keep as friends if I ever have feelings for them.
- That's interesting
- I don't like artificial limitations. Natural ones are fine.
- How do you define the difference
- Not everyone is compatible for example my friend Jann is 43, we dated for a couple months but he flipped out on me and became super neurotic. I left but he still cares for me. He even helped me move. He's a friend.
- Artificial boundaries are when people say "I am your friend" lol.
- I can't be friends with someone who doesn't try.
- I'm not sure I follow. I mean I understand what you're saying but I think that there's so much at play like ppl don't just create these barriers because they're selfish
- They may have just come out of an abusive relationship
- We all have.
- They may be dealing with internalised issues brought upon vi their upbringing
- Yeah but not all humans are the same
- They react differently
- That's just the way it is
- I'm not denying that.
- But excuses only get people so far. At some point they have to make a choice.
- What's the choice
- I'm not an abusive person. And I have a network of loving people. I'm sorry if you were abused before but that doesn't mean I should be blamed for it.
- To try or not to try.
- I'm not talking abt me specifically
- I'm just providing examples
- I want to try to feel safe in this new country and I can't pursue a relationship that's the choice I've made
- I think it'd be best if we just speak for ourselves, ya know?
- Sure
- And I'm saying good luck to you.
- I don't deny my feelings. Being honest with myself is nonnegotiable.
- I cannot "just" be your friend.
- If I didn't have an attraction to you it'd be a different story. But I don't live in that reality.
- I mean I feel like that's out of my control I didn't know that was why you were helping me out at the time like none of this became clear to me until we spoke that morning
- That wasn't why I was helping you out.
- Ok that's good to know I felt kinda crummy thinking that might b the reason
- But look what I'm trying to get at is that there were never any clear terms set here. When we spoke you said there was a connection which I agreed abt. Then u said we should pursue it, either romantically or as friends n I was like cool
- The ultimatum was already set rly I didn't kinda invent it
- I was excited because I thought you felt the same way I felt. That it was so easy being with you. That it was worth preserving.
- I was wrong.
- Relationships aren't about exchanging resources.
- They're about expanding our state of consciousness. That's not what you want. In your words you want to focus on feeling safe in a new country.
- I'm not implying anything close to that I'm just saying I felt safe to tell you we were friends based on what you said to me
- I realise it wasn't safe at all
- I do want to feel safe AJ ur right
- This doesn't make me feel safe
- Why not?
- I was honest with you and upfront with my feelings as I could identify them.
- Even now. How is this a danger?
- Because I feel like I'm being manipulated
- There is nothing other than you that I want. Not money, not intelligence, not sex. I just wanted to develop a deeper relationship.
- And you're telling me that's not your priority. And we are at an impasse. How is that manipulation?
- No ^ that is manipulation
- I'm not lying to you.
- You don't have to be lying
- That's not how it works
- I told you what I wanted.
- That I felt something. And I meant it.
- I thought I could be your friend if it didn't work out.
- Why does it have to not work out first
- But the key is "not working out"
- Because I don't settle.
- How is it settling
- I will always want to hold you or touch you or text you first thing in the morning.
- I'll always want to take goofy photos of us. And you're telling me that that's not in the cards.
- That's not my problem though you even know how I feel abt touch
- I made that lead
- Clear*
- Why is friendship my problem?
- What
- You're using a lot of "I" language.
- That's what I don't want. It's not about me or you. It's about the space between us.
- Stop telling me to talk abt this on ur terms your understanding of the way we interact isn't absolute
- Idk what to say to you.
- I like you. You don't like me.
- Why can't it just end civilly?
- I mean sure I'd like it to end civilly if it has to end
- I do want to say though
- It has to end because neither of us are willing to compromise our positions.
- Yes that's understandable I suppose
- I mean that makes sense
- Thank you for recognizing the importance of my decision to me.
- What is it you wanted to say?
- You're going to find a lot of people out here who will want to use you.
- If you think this conversation has been manipulative you are going to want to build walls 10x stronger.
- My feelings for you were genuine and from the heart. Love has no role but it also has no boundary. I cannot love with boundaries. My actual friends become siblings. My partners become lovers.
- I'm sorry that I hurt you. But know that if I did, it is from a place in which I have to preserve my heart because no one (save my partner) will care to do it for me. Or make it easier at the very least.
- My lovers become partners*
- You're just continually trying to invalidate me here. I think you're being rly manipulative and I think that last message is proof. I don't rly wanna continue this conversation anymore. I feel like I have to show somebody else this so that I know I'm not insane
- Like I said, I don't want anything from you. If you think me being honest is somehow manipulation that's just a reflection of what you think of me. It would have never worked out. Good luck.
- Where does passive aggression and an inability to self assess fit in to ur definition of cosmic love? Please don't ever contact me again
- I'm not being passive aggressive. I have no hard feelings for you. Like at all.
- Idk about self-assess. My decision to not just be your friend is all about self-assessment. To not deny my feelings.
- Idk about cosmic love. I just know about my love and the love my partner (present and past) have given me. I try to avoid all other types.
- And as you wish. Goodbye Chris.
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