Mik vs Coco

Mandatory Video Before Reading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXQwx1EolD8

Coco vs Mik
R1
Coco
* Aoshi has strong cutting
* Aoshi is super durable
* Aoshi is skilled enough to deal with people faster than him
* Aoshi is fast
* Aoshi is super skilled

* Six is strong and has good cutting
* Six is durable
* Six is really fast, almost as good as the tier setter
* Six is skilled and stealthy

* Obould is both strong and does fire-based damage
* Obould is tough and has electricity resistance (Relevant against BW)
* Obould is fast
* Obould is skilled

* Team Rats (I am altering your team name under my supreme authority as judge) has a good balance with roles and stats. Obould serves as a tank due to his high durability, while the other two guys kill while they're distracted.

Judge's Notes: Coco, did I ever mention how much you've improved? This first response is strong both in establishing your stats and advantages, but you've also done well to establish weaknesses for your opponent.

Mik
* Shooter is a quickdraw
* Shooter is MEGA accurate
* Six is slow + will not be prepared for Shooter's bounces
* Aoshi's statement shouldn't be taken at face value + he's never dealt with bullets
* Obould doesn't dodge period and his armor has no feats against bullets let alone bullets that are way stronger than the norm
* Shooter go pew and kills Team Rats

* BW teleports
* BW is very fast
* BW uses electricity and her opponents don't have the feats to stack up against it
* BW teleports + ganks the whole enemy team.

* Gorgon is super duper fast
* Gorgon is tough
* Gorgon is piercing resistant
* Gorgon has mega piercing

* Six will not be lethal fighting
* Six is not actually fast all the time
* Aoshi is slow
* Obould is slow

Judge's Notes: Mik does a good job at reasserting his team's position. While Coco struck him hard with his opening response, Mikhail opens up with several good points, especially ones that dissect his enemy's team to make them seem weaker than initially presented. This is quite good, as Mikhail accomplishes both the hyping of his team, while going to put a brake on his opponent's.

R2
Coco

* Shooter is not as fast as presented
* Shooter's bullet shot feat only represents accuracy, not speed due to the fact that the distance is not properly established
* Shooter suffers with people that outright lack bullet timing feats.
* Six is good against bullets
* Aoshi deals with people who are faster than bullets.
* Obould while not having resisted bullets, has resisting better things like boulder splitting arrows.

* Black Widow's feat for establishing her speed is actually terrible due to bazookas being slower than guns AND the fact that it is self contradicting
* BW has numerous speed anti-feats.
* BW's electricity isn't as good as presented both statementwise and featwise, moreover Obould  beats that anyways.

* Gorgon is slower than Six
* Gorgon is just slow overall
* Gorgon has bad piercing

* Obould is fast (defense)
* Six having only a handful of anti-feats don't justify him being slow
* Six is willing to go lethal against people trying to hurt him / people that he needs to kill
* Aoshi scales to people who are faster than Mik has presented and can deal with people who are faster than he is

Judge's Notes: Time to throw criticisms into the hat. I think the argument of "we do not know how fast these people are", usually doesn't hold up unless there's clear implication to how fast they're meant to be. Mik makes a good point about how the situation was slow visually and Coco had methods (i.e point out that Six is not always moving 1:1 with the viewer's perception if possible), that would have made it more convincing. That said, he does well in pointing out that the bazooka feat is actually terrible and BW herself is slow to the point I am fairly convinced that's the case.

Mik
* Shooter outspeeds six people isn't arguable
* Shooter is properly bullet timing
* Obuld's armor bad

* BW is fast
* BW's teleport + gank still works

* Gorgon isn't worse than Six
* Gorgon would cut the enemy team

* Six sucks at being fast
* The evidence used for Six's willingness to kill is bad
* Aoshi is slow
* Obould won't catch anyone
* Obould's combat speed is only good *because* of berserker rage.

Judge's Notes: Time to throw in more criticisms. I think Mik's situation with the crossbow "anti-feat" is completely wrong. Saying it is weaker than a high powered rifle would hold up, but the feat also states that an EXPLOSION happened point blank in Obould's face as a result, which honestly, is way stronger than he gave credit for. Moreover, I frankly don't think the Widow feats are great either. The sniper feat is done from an unknown distance and is either subsonic or unquantifiable given how Marvel's reputation of having sound being faster than... sound. The feat of the blocking isn't great either as it doesn't clearly show that was done from Widow's own accord, and I think lastly, because we need to keep in mind "being able to react to =/= speed of object", the sword scaling feat imo doesn't hold up.
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Conclusion: Overall, here's my takeaways.

* Six is ambiguous stats wise, and his characterization gimps him further.
* Obould is good generally.
* Aoshi is fine.

* BW actually sucks speedwise but her electricity ganks 2/3 of Coco's team successfully.
* Shooter is fine.
* Gorgon is fine speedwise but is also really squishy.

And this is where I think I am going to actually give it to Coco. While I think Mikhail raises a valid point in respects to how Six will even at best, will take a while to start doing things that actually are conducive to winning, he's running with the issue of the fact that one character on his team is outright useless due to her lack of speed. While I think Coco *could* have done better (i.e the fact that BW's teleports are outright telegraphed), I think he does properly establish and reassert that her lack of speed is what makes her fail as a pick.

This effectively makes it a 2v3 for Team Mik and Team Rats, and frankly, its not a fight I am convinced that Team Mik can edge out on. Coco's point that Gorgon can be one-tapped quite easily by standards of this tier isn't even addressed which makes him awfully squishy by this tier's standards. While I do think that Mik raised a good point about how Six's speed was at the very least ambiguous, I do not believe that Aoshi or Obould was properly dissected speedwise (and let's face it. With a character as tanky as Obuld, getting that instance of where he gets stabbed and gets mad is triggered very easily in this fight, especially since I am in agreement with Coco on the fact that Obould would at least be able to weather Shooter's bullets), and this gets more difficult if Six ever has his reason to go all out. Gorgon is tagged imo fairly handily, and Mik never really properly addresses the notion that Coco put forward which his team would default to attacking Obould (which is going to be impetus of the fact that even if we assume the adrenaline does offer a speedboost, is going to trigger it almost immediately). That basically leaves Shooter, who while I think could convincingly kill Aoshi/Six, would probably not do so on Obould due to his sheer durability.

Team Rats wins.