API tools faq
paste
Erubi

i could finish both in less than 2 days.

Erubi
Sep 7th, 2018
168
0
Never
Add comment
Not a member of Pastebin yet? Sign Up, it unlocks many cool features!
text 6.73 KB | None | 0 0
raw download clone embed print report
  1. MrSpEeDrUn
  2. That speedrun rankings point system makes no sence. How the hell does kirby have twice as many points than me lmao.
  3. I could probably beat his 1:27 in 2 weeks and it gives him so many more points than my any% time. (admittelly my any% time is not much better cause fcking spider shafts but still, its harder to beat than kirby's 1:27 i think.)
  4. Also, ranking peoples purely because of their pbs doesnt make sence, people can be much better than others in a game even though their pb is worse. (ive had that discussion in the sm64 community before....)
  5. Also, how is the mp2 wr less worth than the mp1 record, i dont think thats much easier to beat...
  6.  
  7. And i didnt know miles ran any% in mp3. The mp3 wr also gives way too many points. Why do you rate doing 6/21/17 % i could do each of those. Why the hell does 21% give you 600 points it is not hard to do. Same for 6%. i could finish both in less than 2 days.
  8.  
  9. Cool that youve added a new split up list though.
  10. Edit: something that would encourage runners to do segmented runs would actually be not splitting the list up, i would like to see more segmented runs honestly, so maybe it is a good idea to keep the old list.
  11.  
  12. MilesSMB
  13. Stop talking about how you could "easily" go do things and go do them.
  14.  
  15. Also, no, I would not like that to replace the leaderboard. Segmented runs are a large part of Prime's history even if they're not that common these days.
  16.  
  17. MrSpEeDrUn
  18. Well, considering my pb went from 1:49 to 1:34 within less than 2 weeks with 4 finished runs >_>
  19.  
  20. MilesSMB
  21. I can't wait for your streams over the next 4 days completing both 21% and 6%.
  22.  
  23. MrSpEeDrUn
  24. *runs
  25.  
  26. T3
  27. no, the leaderboard has it all wrong. don't you know what mrspeedrun is capable of? he should definitely be ranked #1 for all the things that he COULD do. just wait and see, he'll surprise all of us.
  28.  
  29. also i'm eagerly awaiting the upcoming arguments over a 100% arbitrary point system.
  30.  
  31. MrSpEeDrUn
  32. im just saying how pointless it is to rate runners entirely from their pbs. (was mostly referring to the point ranking thing)
  33.  
  34. Nisco
  35. I don't see how you can rate runners any way other than their pbs
  36.  
  37. TheMG2
  38. I'm looking forward to your 21% and 6% streams.
  39.  
  40. kirbymastah
  41. Quote from MrSpEeDrUn:
  42. That speedrun rankings point system makes no sence. How the hell does kirby have twice as many points than me lmao.
  43. I could probably beat his 1:27 in 2 weeks and it gives him so many more points than my any% time. (admittelly my any% time is not much better cause fcking spider shafts but still, its harder to beat than kirby's 1:27 i think.)
  44. Also, ranking peoples purely because of their pbs doesnt make sence, people can be much better than others in a game even though their pb is worse.
  45.  
  46.  
  47. Well considering I regularly beat everyone in 100% races that has a slower PB than me, and regularly get beaten by everyone who have faster PBs than me...
  48.  
  49. I don't think anyone disagrees that the ranking system is generally pretty arbitrary but it's also hard to find some objective manner of ranking it. I recommend not taking it that seriously, the goal of it is to lay out a simple table of what every regular prime series streamer does.
  50.  
  51. TheMG2
  52. B-B-But my srl leaderboards points.
  53.  
  54. Skull64
  55. The points are indeed completely arbitrary, but I do have more ideas about how to make the rankings more fair. Right now the system is obviously flawed since, for example, a player with a 1:10 any% and no listed 100% time would have the same amount of points as a person with a 1:20 any% and a 1:42 100%. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume that any player with a 1:10 any% time could easily get a 1:42 100%, but then that begs the question... why haven't they done that yet?
  56.  
  57. The points system is already set up with an exponentially decaying formula. Going from 0:56 to 0:55 in Prime any% is worth a full 70 points while going from 1:16 to 1:15 is only worth 17 points. It could be argued that it should be even steeper since I'd guess that it's more than 70/17 = 4.1 times as hard to go from 0:56 to 0:55 as it is to go from 1:16 to 1:15.
  58.  
  59. There's also the issue of the arbitrary maximum points allocated to each category. I tried to do this according to the perceived "prestige" of each category, but I admittedly just made that shit up.
  60.  
  61. If the consensus is that these rankings shouldn't be part of the leaderboards, then I will remove them.
  62.  
  63. Quote from kirbymastah:
  64. I recommend not taking it that seriously, the goal of it is to lay out a simple table of what every regular prime series streamer does.
  65.  
  66.  
  67. This is how it should be interpreted. Perhaps if I removed the "Rank" column from the left side of the table people would interpret it as less of a competition?
  68.  
  69. kirbymastah
  70. Quote from Skull64:
  71. Quote from kirbymastah:
  72. I recommend not taking it that seriously, the goal of it is to lay out a simple table of what every regular prime series streamer does.
  73.  
  74.  
  75. This is how it should be interpreted. Perhaps if I removed the "Rank" column from the left side of the table people would interpret it as less of a competition?
  76.  
  77.  
  78. IMO you should probably make some note on how it should be interpreted, or just get rid of the rank column. I'm only one opinion though, so I guess wait for other people to chip in their opinion?
  79.  
  80. TheMG2
  81. IIRC m177 didn't really like the points system much either.
  82.  
  83. Metroid177
  84. Quote from MrSpEeDrUn:
  85. Also, ranking peoples purely because of their pbs doesnt make sence, people can be much better than others in a game even though their pb is worse. (ive had that discussion in the sm64 community before....)
  86.  
  87. Yeah man lets rank people by what they say they can do, not what they've actually done! <_<
  88.  
  89. Quote from MrSpEeDrUn:
  90. Why do you rate doing 6/21/17 % i could do each of those. Why the hell does 21% give you 600 points it is not hard to do. Same for 6%. i could finish both in less than 2 days.
  91.  
  92. You've got to be fucking kidding me......Why don't you PROVE IT THEN instead of just talking shit about the hardest categories in the Prime games....
  93.  
  94. Quote from TheMG2:
  95. IIRC m177 didn't really like the points system much either.
  96.  
  97.  
  98. I personally preferred the old layout. Not that I'm completely throwing this idea out the window, but it clearly needs works as Skull has already mentioned.
  99.  
  100. BioSpark
  101. if you care about arbitrary points/rank, you're speedrunning for the wrong reason.
  102.  
  103. Skull64
  104. I'm proposing a new rule: if your handle is "MrSpeedrun" then you automatically get a 5000-point bonus for untapped potential
  105.  
  106. Hazel
  107. I was going to write a post about how stupid a point system is in general, but no that sounds pretty good now.
  108.  
  109. arkarian
  110. who gives a shit
  111.  
  112. record a run if you want recognition ... otherwise shut up
  113.  
  114. MrSpEeDrUn
  115. Thats what im saying, rate runners yourself and don't let a point system do it for you.
Add Comment
Please, Sign In to add comment
Public Pastes
We use cookies for various purposes including analytics. By continuing to use Pastebin, you agree to our use of cookies as described in the Cookies Policy.  OK, I Understand
Not a member of Pastebin yet?
Sign Up, it unlocks many cool features!