VereorNox> She [ADDED CENTRIFUGAL FORCE] Mishie
13:54 <Megafire> Vern, what are you reading?
13:54 <Megafire> And why are you reading it?
13:54 <Elara> *Centripetal force
13:54 <Megafire> *Centripedal.
13:54 <VereorNox> I'm not even reading it
13:54 <Megafire> We're not working with flowers here.
13:54 <VereorNox> I just clicked on the latest chapter
13:54 <Elara> Megafire
13:54 <VereorNox> Fugal, not Fungal
13:55 <Megafire> :D
13:55 <VereorNox> hah, Petal, pedal, Fugal, Fungal
13:55 <VereorNox> Fuck
13:55 <Luminifera> I find it absurdly cute how everyone here is a total nerd
13:55 <VereorNox> We're on a roll
13:55 <Luminifera> ^-^


13:55 <VereorNox> speak for yourself
13:55 <VereorNox> I find all of you revolting
13:55 <VereorNox> :<
13:55 <Megafire> Vern, you love us and you knowit.
13:55 <Megafire> *know it
13:55 <Elara> centripetal means seeking the centre, centripedal means "I'm Dutch and I don't know what I'm talking about" :P
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13:55 <Megafire> Fuck this stupid fucking keyboard.
13:56 <Megafire> :D
13:56 <Luminifera> Vern it's okay <3 we love you!!!
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13:56 <Megafire> You know what, Elara?
13:57 <Megafire> You are entirely correct.
13:57 <Megafire> And I apologise.
13:57 <Elara> <- learned Latin
13:57 <Megafire> *studied
13:57 <Megafire> :D
13:58 <Megafire> I only had 2 years of Latin a long time ago.
13:58 — •Glernaj grumbles about centrifugal force not being a thing.
13:59 <Belaris> Is too a thing
13:59 <Belaris> It's a resultant component other than a force in it's own right, but it certainly exists.
13:59 <Belaris> *its
13:59 <•Glernaj> the behavior exists, yes
13:59 <•Glernaj> the force does not
13:59 <Elara> eh, frames of reference, Relativity schmelativity, you can make things work with centrifugal force. it's just more complicated and messy
14:00 <Elara> like, ooh, I don't know, phlogiston
14:00 <Luminifera> centripedal.
14:00 <Luminifera> a center foot
14:00 <Luminifera> foot on the center
14:01 <Luminifera> only one foot.
14:01 <•Glernaj> belaris, the fun thing? Texas state law uses the exact term "centrifugal force" as a part of it's definition of illegal knives
14:01 <Elara> you'd have to hop around Lumi
14:01 <Luminifera> hop hop hop
14:01 — Luminifera checks for hops
14:01 <Luminifera> no half ops
14:01 <Elara> why do you need to talk about centrifugal force in the context of knives?
14:01 <Belaris> I'm sorry?
14:01 <Belaris> What?
14:01 <Belaris> Why?
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14:01 — Belaris has so many questions
14:01 <•Glernaj> you know what a gravity knife is?
14:02 <Elara> narp
14:02 <Elara> ayy Suomi sieb
14:02 <•Glernaj> it's basically a hollow handle, with a blade pressed into the handle by a spring inside
14:02 <VereorNox> "Let's role play it!"
14:02 <•Glernaj> you drop the knife as a hold, and jerk the handle upward
14:02 <sieb> 'ello Britain Elara
14:02 <VereorNox> "Obviously, let's roleplay it."
14:02 <VereorNox> Wow
14:02 <VereorNox> Fuck you, Undertale
14:02 <•Glernaj> gravity keeps the blade dropping against the spring, and the lock engages
14:02 <Belaris> I do now
14:02 <Megafire> :D
14:02 <Belaris> Just looked it up
14:02 <•Glernaj> they can ALSO be opened with a strong flicking motion
14:03 <Belaris> So are they allowed, or nah?
14:03 <Megafire> You've had the Neutral ending, Vern?
14:03 <•Glernaj> not allowed
14:03 <Belaris> That seems... specific
14:03 <•Glernaj> they're a type of switchblade basically
14:03 <VereorNox> yeah, Megafire
14:03 <Belaris> Unless it's part of the general prohibition against-
14:03 <Belaris> Yeah
14:03 <VereorNox> Fuck that fucking boss fight
14:03 <VereorNox> Crashing my game the entire time
14:03 <•Glernaj> the specific passage prohibits gravity knives specifically, and sort of kind implicitly prohibits butterfly knives if you have no idea how they work
14:04 <Megafire> That rotten bastard, yeah.
14:04 <•Glernaj> (this is carry only, not possession)
14:04 <•Glernaj> For even more reference Belaris, this same chunk of law also defines as an "illegal knife" a spear
14:05 <VereorNox> Megafire:
14:05 <VereorNox> Is... is anime realß
14:05 <VereorNox> ?
14:05 <VereorNox> ANIME IS REAL, RIGHT?!
14:05 <•Glernaj> also defined as an illegal knife? a sword
14:05 <•Glernaj> here's a fun one: (C)  dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
14:05 <Megafire> Hardest question in that game.
14:06 <Belaris> I mean... I guess? If you're trying to keep the number of statutes down, that'll do it
14:06 <VereorNox> Nah man, the hardest question in the game is "Who does Dr. Alphys have a crush on." Megafire ;D
14:06 <•Glernaj> what the fuck happened that they felt the need to legislatively specify a dirk, stilleto, and poniard?
14:06 <Elara> stiletto I can see, t'other two seem pretty odd
14:06 <Megafire> There are no wrong answers to that question.
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14:07 <Belaris> D&D has taught me that if I don't know the name of a weapon, it's a polearm, so a poniard is like a bunch of knives tied to a stick?
14:07 <•Glernaj> it's a type of dagger
14:07 <•Glernaj> (If you can't tell, I'm copy/pasting from the Texas penal code right now"
14:07 <Belaris> More specifically, a Renaissance-era dagger
14:08 <•Glernaj> check out THIS definition: (11)  "Switchblade knife" means any knife that has a blade that folds, closes, or retracts into the handle or sheath and that opens automatically by pressure applied to a button or other device located on the handle or opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.  The term does not include
14:08 <•Glernaj> a knife that has a spring, detent, or other mechanism designed to create a bias toward closure and that requires exertion applied to the blade by hand, wrist, or arm to overcome the bias toward closure and open the knife.
14:08 <Belaris> Wtf happened in texas
14:08 <Elara> basically means any knife that opens one handed is banned
14:08 <•Glernaj> not at all Elara
14:09 <Elara> but one that takes both hands to open then locks into place is ok
14:09 <Elara> oh? that's how I read that
14:09 <•Glernaj> folding knives are perfectly legal.
14:09 <•Glernaj> like I said, that's describing a gravity knife
14:09 <Elara> thing is tho, I've got a folding knife, but once I lubricated the hinge a bit it opens like a gravity knife
14:10 <VereorNox> Megafire: Okay
14:10 <VereorNox> True Lab is genuinely creepy
14:10 <Megafire> :D
14:10 <Belaris> D:
14:10 <Megafire> Did you sleep in the bed yet?
14:10 <Chrono|Mobile> meanwhile in Canada
14:10 <Belaris> Elara criminal mastermind confirmed
14:10 <Elara> ...I use it camping, FFS :P
14:10 <Chrono|Mobile> you can't have any Gravity assisted, force-assisted or spring-assisted knives.
14:11 <Belaris> Can I have a sword?
14:11 <Chrono|Mobile> swords are legal
14:11 <•Glernaj> Also, Belaris, have you heard of catle laws/doctrines?
14:11 Nae → •Nae|afk
14:11 <Chrono|Mobile> Cutter's Knives sells swords
14:11 <•Glernaj> castle*
14:11 <VereorNox> Megafire: I... I just opened the tap
14:11 <Belaris> I have heard of castle law
14:11 <Megafire> Heh.
14:12 <•Glernaj> in Texas, it's legal to use lethal force in defense of:
14:12 <•Glernaj> Your home.
14:12 <•Glernaj> Your vehicle.
14:12 <•Glernaj> Your place of business or employment.
14:12 <VereorNox> If those logs are made by Alphys, Mega
14:12 <VereorNox> Wow
14:12 <VereorNox> Respect
14:12 <VereorNox> OH GOD
14:12 <VereorNox> WHAT IS THAT BEHIND THE BED
14:13 <Elara> Texas wow. fairly sure in the UK it is legal to use lethal force in defence of: your own life; another person's life
14:13 <Elara> and that's basically it
14:13 <•Glernaj> Right, self-defense is an entirely separate law.
14:13 <VereorNox> Awww
14:13 <VereorNox> That was adorable
14:14 <Megafire> :D
14:14 <•Glernaj> (Elara, they do have be trying to either forcefully remove you, forcefully enter, or be attempting/currently commiting aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery)
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14:14 <•Glernaj> So not completely blanket.
14:15 <Elara> you can use force in defence of your home, but only if you have either retreated, or have nowhere to retreat to, and use of lethal force would be deemed excessive
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14:15 <•Glernaj> eugh, duty to retreat laws.
14:16 <Elara> if you use or threaten force and they run away, you can attempt to exercise a citizen's arrest, but you cannot continue to use force on them
14:16 <Elara> actually that's not quite right. hmmm. basically you can't attack them with a weapon if they're running away
14:17 <VereorNox> Megafire: Why are there videos from my character
14:17 <Megafire> :D
14:17 <VereorNox> Is this a reference to restarting the game?
14:17 <Megafire> I freaked out so much when I got to that room.
14:17 <Megafire> Is it?
14:17 <VereorNox> Because I kinda did that after I killed Toriel because I didn't know how to spare here before
14:17 <Elara> personally I don't see what's wrong with saying you have a duty to retreat *if possible*. vast majority of burglars will run like fuck if they just become aware of someone in the household
14:17 <Megafire> Is that at all possible, Vern?
14:17 <Megafire> Did you ever see Asgore and Toriel together?
14:18 <VereorNox> <.<
14:18 <VereorNox> I'm pretty sure those two are married or something
14:18 <VereorNox> The video tapes also indicate that
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14:18 <VereorNox> Their houses WERE THE SAME
14:18 <•Glernaj> Eh, Elara, just a lot of cultural weight towards the "stand your ground" reaction
14:19 <Megafire> *Are* married, Vern?
14:19 <Megafire> Then why do they live on opposite ends of the underground?
14:19 <Megafire> And why did Toriel warn you of how dangerous it was outside if her husband wanted to kill you?
14:19 <VereorNox> Well, it obviously has to do with the fact that in the Neutral ending he kinda told me they declared war on humanity and she was digusting
14:19 <VereorNox> I'm on my way to the pacifist ending! I know this shit already! :D
14:20 <Elara> see from my perspective I find SYG terrifying, as to me that sounds like...hmmm, spin a tale....say I drunkenly try to climb back into my house one night, except I got the wrong house (because drunk). under SYG someone can shoot me for that
14:20 <VereorNox> Flowey told me how to get the best ending. Most creepy piece of shit in the entire game taht he is
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14:21 <•Glernaj> Sort of Elara?
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14:21 <Megafire> So.
14:21 <•Glernaj> Actually, I'm not sure how that case would play out here.
14:21 <Elara> personally I have quite a good sense of direction, even when drunk, but I know people who've pulled shit like that. I think duty to retreat takes all uncertainty out of the situation - if you've warned someone, and retreated, and yet they're still coming, they're definitely a threat
14:21 <Megafire> You have never been here.
14:21 <Megafire> You were not there when those videos were recorded.
14:21 <Megafire> Yet, your name is on them.
14:22 <Megafire> :D
14:22 <VereorNox> It was also on the coffin
14:22 <Megafire> :D
14:22 <VereorNox> <.<
14:22 <VereorNox> Fuck you, Mega.
14:22 <Megafire> (You are not who you think you are.)
14:22 — VereorNox goes back to coddling everyone
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14:22 <•Glernaj> Eh, duty to retreat makes sense in defense of person to me, but not in the context of castle laws.
14:22 <•Glernaj> retreating away from the house kinda defeats the purpose of defending it
14:22 <Megafire> Or, rather, you did not name who you thought you named, and you are not who you think you are.
14:23 <Elara> nah, you don't have to retreat from the whole house
14:23 <Elara> it's about retreating within the house, e.g into another room
14:23 <Megafire> And this is not yet the biggest curve ball the game has thrown you yet.
14:24 <Elara> certainly in UK law it's just one way of showing you weren't looking for a chance to use force, and were acting reasonably when you did use force
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14:27 <VereorNox> Megafire:
14:27 <VereorNox> >What if something without a soul gets the will to live
14:27 <VereorNox> >The flower is gone
14:27 <VereorNox> ._.
14:27 <Megafire> :D
14:28 <Megafire> Now you also know why Alphys considers herself trash, by the way.
14:28 <VereorNox> Eh
14:28 <VereorNox> come on
14:28 <VereorNox> She likes Anime
14:28 <VereorNox> Of course she's trash
14:28 <VereorNox> She's waifu trash
14:29 <Megafire> Nah, the kind of shit she did down here caused major self-esteem issues.
14:30 <VereorNox> "Do you think we can be friends again?"
14:30 <VereorNox> "NO, Asgore!"
14:31 <VereorNox> Dunno, I feel bad for him
14:31 <VereorNox> He's a miserable king with his decisions, but his personality makes me feel bad for him all the time D:
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14:31 <Megafire> Heh.
14:32 ⇐ •Mishie quit (chatzilla@7E92876C.E82EF617.6177458E.IP) Connection reset by peer
14:33 <VereorNox> NO
14:33 <VereorNox> FLOWEY
14:33 <VereorNox> YOU TRAITOR
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14:34 <Megafire> Well, guess who your best friend was?
14:34 <VereorNox> Shush
14:34 <VereorNox> I'm enjoying the scenery
14:34 <VereorNox> That is to say
14:34 <VereorNox> I can't do anything
14:34 <VereorNox> Besides watching my friends block his attacks
14:35 <VereorNox> Asriel Dreemur
14:35 <VereorNox> Well, shit
14:36 <Megafire> :D
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14:38 <Elara> what are you talking about Vern?
14:38 <•Mishie> Undertale
14:39 <Elara> this is the game krahe was talkin' bout recently, right?
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14:45 <VereorNox> Megafire:
14:45 <VereorNox> The shit is that
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14:45 <Megafire> Hmm?
14:45 <VereorNox> Giant wings
14:45 <VereorNox> This is not even my final form1
14:47 <Chime> hah final reality xiii
14:47 — Chime references link from hours ago
14:49 <Elara> that's Chime for ya, always on the ball
14:50 — Chime stands on a giant ball, balancing precariously
14:52 — Luminifera hugs chime
14:53 <Chime> aww :)
14:53 <Elara> careful Lumi, don't make him fall off!
14:53 — Chime falls off of giant ball
14:53 <Chime> whoa what-
14:53 — Elara sighs, deploys the trampoline under Chime
14:54 <Chime> i'm glad it's so easy to manifest bouncy objects in virtualspace
14:54 — Megafire sets it all on fire.
14:55 <Elara> I was ready for that Chime
14:55 <Elara> I wasn't ready for mega though
14:55 — Elara runs screaming
14:56 <VereorNox> Shit
14:56 <VereorNox> Megafire:
14:56 <VereorNox> I don't wanna do a genocide run after this
14:56 <VereorNox> this ending is too perfect
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14:57 — Luminifera happily dies in a fire
14:57 <Megafire> Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
14:57 <Megafire> I tried starting the genocide run, but, eh.
14:57 <Megafire> Did you go back to talk to Asriel, though?
14:58 <Elara> o/ panth
14:58 — Elara weeps over Lumi's ashes
14:58 <VereorNox> On my way, Mega
14:58 <Megafire> Cool.
14:58 pantherasapiens → panth
14:59 — panth observes Lumi
14:59 <panth> Heyo Elara
14:59 <panth> And vern et al
15:02 <Elara> wow, I didn't think I could get to dislike the Duke much more
15:02 — Elara caught up on Twig
15:04 <panth> o_o
15:04 <Luminifera> Lumiashesra
15:06 — Elara infuses Lumiashesra with Regeneration Energy to turn her back into Luminifera
15:06 <Luminifera> :D
15:07 <Luminifera> thank you!
15:07 <Luminifera> that would be impossible, but thank you
15:08 <panth> Elara is the Doctor now?
15:08 <Elara> ha, I'm much more likely to be Missy, surely?
15:08 <Chime> Elara for 13th doctor
15:09 <panth> Well Elara is certainly bananas!
15:09 — panth wouldn't put a Cyber-army past Elara
15:09 <Chime> hehe
15:09 <Elara> I'm a terrrrrible actor Chime
15:10 <Megafire> Anyway, yeah, the Duke's... unhinged.
15:11 <Chime> eh, we can touch that up in post-production. somehow. with timelord technology.
15:11 <panth> Are there any Let's Reads for Twig or Pact?
15:11 <Elara> run one panth
15:11 <panth> I'm thinking of it yeah
15:11 <panth> xD
15:12 <Megafire> Oh, that does sound very interesting, yeah.
15:13 <Elara> I don't think the Duke is unhinged though, I think he just comes from a really weird (to us) context
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15:14 <Shem_Phone> morning!
15:14 <Shem_Phone> or evening or whatever
15:14 <panth> Hey Shem
15:15 <Shem_Phone> I'm in Venice, heading back to Israel
15:15 <Shem_Phone> *Vienna
15:16 <Megafire> The end result's the same, though.
15:17 <Elara> mmm kinda sorta
15:17 <•Clarvel> http://6dollarshirts.com/t-shirts/Sex-Tape-T-Shirt-p-13290.html
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15:20 <Luminifera> hello shem!
15:21 <Shem_Phone> :D hi Lum!
15:21 <Shem_Phone> I see you're back
15:21 <Luminifera> I am
15:21 <Luminifera> I am also front
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15:25 <Shem_Phone> hi ascii
15:28 <Megafire> Goddamnit Lumi.
15:28 <Megafire> That joke was bad and you should feel bad!
15:28 <Luminifera> :(
15:28 <Luminifera> sorry
15:29 — Elara scowls at Megafire for making Lumi feel bad
15:30 <Megafire> I did not make her feel bad, I said she should feel bad! There is a marked difference!
15:31 <Megafire> inb4 'scowl deepens'.
15:31 <Megafire> You know, I need to figure out what I'm going to do with punctuation in these cases.
15:31 <Elara> you wanted her to feel bad, you expressed that want, she feels bad. clear correlation, even if you're denying the causation, I feel justified in blaming you :P
15:31 <Megafire> Boo.
15:32 <Olivebirdy> :P
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15:33 <Elara> what's wrong with your punctuation mega?
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15:33 <Megafire> Oh, it's flawless, of course.
15:34 <Megafire> However, there are times where I fuck it up on purpose for effect.
15:34 <Megafire> 'inb4 'scowl deepens'.'
15:34 <Megafire> No capital at the start.
15:34 <Megafire> Yet, I still ended that with a period.
15:34 <Megafire> Why did I do that?
15:34 <Megafire> I don't know.
15:35 <Luminifera> ...
15:35 <Luminifera> lol
15:35 <Chime> i spent years IRC'ing in a channel where proper capitalizaton and some kinds of punctuation were sort of regarded as like... overly formal for the casual setting, so i've kinda gotten accustomed to it
15:35 <Luminifera> punctuation ceases to exist for me online
15:35 <Luminifera> it just doesnt
15:36 <Luminifera> see
15:36 <Luminifera> no apostrophe
15:36 <Chime> lumi you punctuate with enter keys
15:36 <Luminifera> fuck da rulez
15:36 <Chime> hehe
15:36 Nae|afk → •Nae
15:36 <Elara> I try to keep up with capitalisation for proper nouns, and apostrophes, for the sake of clarity if nothing else
15:36 <Megafire> See, but proper punctuation is my calling card.
15:37 <Megafire> It's like, the thing I do.
15:37 <Elara> the enter key is functionally a full stop in this context though, and starting with a capital seems unnecessary
15:37 <Chime> *nods*
15:37 <Megafire> It sets me apart from the plebes, makes me unique.
15:37 <Luminifera> the thing I do is... nothing
15:37 <Megafire> Also, it makes me feel better.
15:37 <Luminifera> I have no thing I do and I don't care if it makes anyone feel better :P
15:37 <Chime> I find I tend to capitalize/punctuate more properly if I'm trying to put two full sentences in. Otherwise it's just a run-on in the middle which looks horrible
15:37 <Luminifera> I punctuate with emojis
15:38 <Luminifera> also autocorrect
15:38 <Chime> (and yes, i purposefully put two sentences in that line)
15:38 <Megafire> Also, could someone tell me why I'm reading a take-down of Stepping on Worm again?
15:38 <Elara> autocorrect is, IME, far more likely to 'correct' an unusual word than to correct an actual typo
15:38 <Megafire> Because I'm not sure I should be doing that.
15:39 <Elara> other than a transposition
15:39 <Chime> my phone somehow lost the uncapitalized version of the word "Cape" yesterday, it kept autocorrecting "cape" into "Cape"
15:39 <Chime> no idea how that even happens
15:39 <JETHULHU> I rise
15:39 <Elara> if you've capitalised it too many times
15:40 <Elara> I had that happen with a few things
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15:41 — Luminifera hugs JETHULHU
15:41 <Luminifera> where's the n
15:41 <Shem_Phone> oh god, wildbow, why
15:41 <Luminifera> shem
15:41 <Luminifera> NO SPOILERS
15:41 <Luminifera> :|
15:41 <Shem_Phone> why is it so excruciatingly slow
15:41 <Shem_Phone> to download Pact chapters
15:41 — Elara points at topic
15:41 <Luminifera> ah.
15:42 <Shem_Phone> it's like 35 seconds, per chapter, to download it offline
15:42 <Luminifera> elara, twig spoilers about the most recent chapter are a matter of politeness.
15:42 <Shem_Phone> imagine an unskippable 35 sec ad on YouTube, but on pact
15:43 <Luminifera> imagine copying and pasting every chapter on a .txt file
15:43 — Shem_Phone is on Pact 5.3
15:43 <Shem_Phone> lumi, you did it on Pact?
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15:44 <Shem_Phone> a Worm PDF I have, but if I had one for pact it would be miraculous
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15:45 <Luminifera> I did it on worm
15:46 — Elara hopes Shem donates to the Patreon
15:46 — Shem_Phone wants to...
15:46 Luckylee → RacistLee
15:46 — Shem_Phone really wants to
15:47 <Shem_Phone> Blake is so tough, by the way
15:47 <Elara> when you're getting Army pay Shem
15:47 <Elara> :P
15:47 <Shem_Phone> he got like 5 Guts
15:47 <Shem_Phone> Elara, maybe I actually will!
15:47 <Shem_Phone> it's like 50 dollars a month, I think
15:48 <Shem_Phone> oh! two things I really like in Pact so far
15:49 <Shem_Phone> the lying mechanic and the third victory
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15:49 <Elara> they pay you 50 bucks a month? yaysus
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15:49 <Shem_Phone> it's high? it's low?
15:49 <Shem_Phone> it's supposed to be a symbolic payment
15:49 <Elara> that's fuck all
15:50 <Elara> they should at least pay you minimum wage
15:50 <Shem_Phone> people in need of more money get more money
15:50 <Shem_Phone> but it's not really supposed to pay minimum wage
15:50 <Shem_Phone> because mandatory
15:50 <Shem_Phone> ...
15:51 <Elara> when we had National Service, it paid
15:51 <Shem_Phone> oh, no, just asked my brother who worked on it
15:51 <Shem_Phone> 500 Shekels
15:51 <Shem_Phone> so, like 140 dollars
15:52 <Elara> then again, we got rid of National Service because the generals were begging to be allowed a professional army back :P
15:54 <Elara> oh my god, sudden rainstorm outsid
15:54 <Elara> I can barely see the other side of the road
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15:58 <VereorNox> ...
15:58 <VereorNox> Megafire:
15:58 <VereorNox> I ust realized something
15:58 <Megafire> Yes?
15:58 <Shem_Phone> gah. do slow.
15:58 <VereorNox> when you take a look at the coffin again, it's not completely empty, there's a bunch of bandages in it
15:58 <VereorNox> And what is the starting armor?
15:58 <Megafire> A bandage.
15:58 <Megafire> Interesting.
15:59 <Shem_Phone> so*. and the worst part is, I keep accidentally spoiling myself
15:59 <Megafire> But, of course, you are not you.
15:59 <Megafire> Basically, there are three people involved here.
15:59 <VereorNox> So if you go full Pacifist, you were able to completely ignore Chara's influence
15:59 <Shem_Phone> at least my hair feels sweet
15:59 <Megafire> Yes.
15:59 <VereorNox> But if you go genocide...
15:59 <Megafire> Chara takes over and then kills you.
16:00 <Megafire> And if you try to reset they demand you sell them Frisk's soul, otherwise they'll permanently lock the game.
16:00 <Megafire> This corrupts any Pacifist runs you try to do afterwards.
16:01 <Luminifera> ohh
16:02 <Megafire> Also, in Neutral runs, Chara is split between you and Flowey.
16:02 <Elara> whassup Lumi?
16:02 <Megafire> As in, Flowey is not just Asriel, but also partially Chara, as they fused their souls before going out on their happy little murder spree.
16:03 <Megafire> Which Asriel prevented.
16:03 <Olivebirdy> I got 400 a month.
16:03 <Olivebirdy> But, Shem, don't forget, you get a lot? of money at the end.
16:03 <Megafire> And now all we need to figure out is how Gaster and Sans are involved inthat.
16:03 <Megafire> *in that
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16:19 <Shem_Phone> Olivebirdy: how much is it?
16:20 <Olivebirdy> I was a jobnik, rama daled or gimmel, I think?
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16:22 <Olivebirdy> 10-11,000 clean, + 20,000 for marriage, education, buying a house, making a business and I forgot the fifth one.
16:23 <Elara> ...the government pays you to get married?
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16:23 <Olivebirdy> Well, allows you to use your money for marriage.
16:24 <Olivebirdy> (We're not actually considered that mature)
16:24 <Elara> encouraging immature people to get married, that'll end so well
16:24 <Luminifera> ^
16:24 <Luminifera> aww olive
16:24 <Luminifera> how cute!!!
16:24 <Olivebirdy> Someone in the government decided that kids fresh from the army should be encouraged to do something productive.
16:25 <Elara> or reproductive, apparently
16:25 <Luminifera> I have three ex-classmates who are girls my age getting married in the next couple of months
16:25 <Twonk> Good to come back to wordplay
16:25 <Luminifera> hahahahha
16:25 <Luminifera> good one elara
16:28 <Olivebirdy> TAking down the sukkah~
16:29 RacistLee → Luckylee
16:29 <Elara> how's Twonky?
16:30 <Twonk> Pretty good ^^ Just finished tutoring, heading into town to meet my Dad before he heads off for a while
16:30 <Olivebirdy> Oh, dear me, I should have said 'tabernacle'.
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16:30 <soulpelt|> tbf given the tumultuous history of Israel and her people  being paid to expand your family and shit is to be expected
16:31 <Olivebirdy> Or, maybe the government is being nice?
16:31 <VereorNox> Megafire:
16:31 <VereorNox> Considering the following
16:31 <Olivebirdy> SOmeone wants to get married, they get to use the money.
16:31 <Megafire> I am preparing to consider.
16:31 <VereorNox> Chara's Soul was in the tube at Asgore, right?
16:31 <soulpelt|> sure Olive, let's go with that.
16:31 <VereorNox> Are we sure that Chara whose soul was fused with Asriel and Chara whose soul is in the tube are the same?
16:32 <Elara> yeah, government policy is so often built around being nice
16:32 <soulpelt|> .....wat
16:32 <VereorNox> What if the one that was fused with Asriel was actually another soul that had possessed the first kid that fell down?
16:32 <Elara> especially in states that have spent much of their history in a state of cold or hot war
16:33 — soulpelt| pats Olive on the head
16:33 <Shem_Phone> no, it's even more evil than that
16:33 <Shem_Phone> See, arabs who live in Israel are not recruited
16:34 <Shem_Phone> so, even though they don't have to serve
16:34 <Shem_Phone> THEY don't get paid for reproducing
16:35 <Elara> obviously, gotta maintain that precious demographic majority
16:35 <VereorNox> Megafire: The thing that got me on the idea is because I am watching a genocide playthrough, don't think I can do it myself
16:35 <soulpelt|> VereorNox: K I L L
16:35 <VereorNox> And at one point, Undyne says "You will kill them all, monsters, humans." and "Whatever you are."
16:35 <Megafire> It wasn't in the tube.
16:35 <soulpelt|> BLOOD AND FIRE, FIRE AND BLOOD
16:36 <Megafire> One tube was empty.
16:36 <VereorNox> Yes, that's the tube that your soul was supposed to go in
16:36 <VereorNox> Right?
16:36 <Megafire> And there was no red heart among the six that were there, while Chara's tomb did have a red heart.
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16:36 <VereorNox> There were six souls, though
16:36 <Megafire> Yes.
16:36 <soulpelt|> Anyone want to buy me Undertale? :P
16:37 <Megafire> Six other children, but none of those soulds were Chara's (and yours) red one.
16:37 <VereorNox> So the first child's soul, isn't actually Chara's soul
16:37 <VereorNox> And you aren't the 7th kid, but the theoretical 8th
16:38 <Megafire> The First Child's Soul is Chara's, but not one of the ones Asgore has.
16:38 <soulpelt|> (take it to PM perhaps Meg and Vern?)
16:38 <Shem_Phone> What date does afterbirth come out?
16:38 <VereorNox> A few minutes after the actual birth, Shem_Phone
16:38 <Shem_Phone> and I sort of agree with soult
16:39 <Shem_Phone> I asked what date, vern
16:39 <Shem_Phone> like, second date?  fifth?
16:39 <VereorNox> Same date
16:39 <VereorNox> A few minutes afterwards
16:39 <Shem_Phone> ah
16:39 <soulpelt|> October 30th Shem_Phone
16:40 <Shem_Phone> oh, just a few days after Fall 10th, neat
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16:41 <Bruticus> Morning, people
16:41 <Elara> hey Bruti
16:42 <Bruticus> Hey 'lar
16:43 <Elara> :( some people in my government are so evil
16:43 <Bruticus> Same
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16:43 <Bruticus> Though maybe not as evil as yours
16:44 <Twonk> Shem, you see the most recent Afterbirth update post?
16:44 <howl> o/
16:44 <Shem_Phone> how recent?
16:44 <Shem_Phone> howl hi
16:45 <Elara> it's probably positioning for a leadership run, but Theresa May has given a speech at conference claiming (contrary to actual government data) that immigration is teerrrriiiibbbblllleee and evil and must be stopped before we all die horribly
16:45 <Twonk> Released yesterday, I think
16:45 <howl> I literally have nightmares about Theresa May becoming prime minister.
16:46 <soulpelt|> is England blowing up yet?
16:46 <Twonk> Danielle had the baby, so he didn't have time to write a full post. Instead he wrote a couple short things and accompanied it with a picture of the literal afterbirth
16:46 <Bruticus> No, the Millennium zeppelins haven't shown up yet
16:47 <Bruticus> Nor the Catholic Church
16:47 <Elara> fortunately not spelt
16:47 <Luminifera> Olivebirdy:
16:47 <Luminifera> do you want to get married?
16:47 <Elara> I'm not sure she's much worse than Gideon howl?
16:48 <Bruticus> Lumi. is really the time to ask?
16:48 <Luminifera> :( sorry. I don't know.
16:48 <howl> Osborne was born Gideon? Haha.
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16:49 <howl> I guess he changed it because "Gideon Osborn" is too darklord-ish.
16:49 Twonk → twonknowifi
16:49 <Elara> I'm still kicking myself for voting Tory in '10
16:50 <Bruticus> Just jokin' Lums
16:50 <howl> Cameron always seemed paradoxically human, even to me, even now, after the benefits act and the dystopian speeches.
16:51 <Elara> yeah
16:51 <Elara> I think that's because he believes
16:53 <howl> or because he's the most accomplished shapeshifter the Lizardine can front.
16:54 <howl> ._. I'm joking. Why is it so quiet now.
16:54 <Elara> oh do calm yourself Mr Icke
16:55 <Shem_Phone> Olive, answer the question!
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16:56 <Chime> http://imgur.com/gallery/wu8b62y
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17:01 <Luminifera> only alive live live live!
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17:01 <Elara> Lumi wut?
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17:02 <soulpelt|> I think Lumi is being silly
17:02 <howl> I'd guess she's singing.
17:02 <Megafire> ^
17:02 <Luminifera> yes!!!!!
17:02 — Luminifera gives howl a surprise present
17:02 <soulpelt|> takei.jpeg
17:02 <howl> Is it a recording of an adventure time song played on guitar?
17:03 <Luminifera> uh?
17:03 <Luminifera> open it. it's a surprise.
17:03 <howl> I'm fearful of surprises.
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17:03 <Chime> daddy~~~ why did you steal my fries~~
17:04 <Elara> Nae has done away with all the other ops
17:04 <Elara> Nae is now the overlord
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17:05 <Chime> a challenger appears!
17:05 <Luckylee> yo Mishie
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17:05 <•Mishie> ;)
17:06 <Luckylee> Did you invite Kumar to the channel yet
17:06 <Luckylee> He'd fit right in
17:06 <Luckylee> :^)
17:06 <Luminifera> Taylor is a Mary sue?
17:07 <Luckylee> No she is a Herbear.
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17:07 <howl> We didn't need so many ops. The only people who break "respect ops" are untouchable anyway.
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17:08 <howl> the rule probably should have just been "respect".
17:09 ← Luckylee was kicked by Mishie (chatzilla@7E92876C.E82EF617.6177458E.IP): wat
17:09 <•Mishie> howl: hmm?
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17:10 <Luckylee> r00d.
17:10 <•Mishie> Luckylee: I will ban you from here since I know you're just here to troll :)
17:10 <Luckylee> I didn't do shit
17:10 <Luckylee> Wtf
17:10 <Luckylee> I just observe.
17:10 <Luckylee> and make crappy one liners
17:10 <Luckylee> cmon man
17:10 <•Mishie> this will end with WD as admin of #lol
17:10 <BillDoor> If that was a bannable offence wouldn't everyone on dlp get banned
17:10 <Luckylee> That'd be like banning the entirety of spacebattles
17:10 <tubes> meems
17:10 <•Mishie> BillDoor: it's because Luckylee is a special brand of bads
17:10 <Luckylee> It won't Mishie
17:11 <Luckylee> It will end with Sree rigging my sig and getting me banned by World
17:11 <BillDoor> it's all the internal rage and cancer
17:11 <BillDoor> it does things to him
17:11 <Luckylee> I blame NA Solo Que
17:11 <Luckylee> It does.
17:11 <Luckylee> It's not my fault
17:11 <Luckylee> I'm not sorry
17:11 <Nae`cloud> Lucky
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17:11 <howl> I've been wondering, was Hereacles a Mary Sue of greek mythology?
17:11 <Luckylee> yo, Nae.
17:11 <Nae`cloud> Are you trolling again
17:11 <Luckylee> I mean, yo Highest Indian Authority.
17:11 <Luckylee> No.
17:11 <Luckylee> Not at all.
17:12 <Nae`cloud> :|
17:12 <Luckylee> :D
17:12 <Elara> not really howl, he's no more OP than a bunch of the other demigods and heroes :P
17:13 <howl> Hmm
17:14 <howl> I've also been imagining cavemen playing a D&D equivalent with carved bones around a campfire.
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17:15 <howl> "You're on hunt, and you meet bear. He angry. Throw bone for initiative" etc.
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17:16 <Quanfinigon> "I want cast magic missile"
17:18 <Elara> you use stupid made up words. bear swipe your head off. you dead
17:18 <panth> Elara: I started a Let's Read Twig thread
17:18 <panth> And blamed you
17:18 <panth> ;D
17:18 <howl> The caveman equivalent of magic missile is "big rock". It does 1b4 points of damage per rock thrown.
17:18 <Elara> so rude :(
17:18 <howl> Panth - link?
17:18 <panth> Well you WERE a driving force you can't deny
17:19 <panth> https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/lets-read-twig-no-spoilers-please.22898/
17:19 <howl> ta
17:19 <panth> Though I've probably made a whole bunch of wrong assumptions/ missed obvious clues
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17:22 <Elara> you mentioned Frankenstein. you picked up Wollstone as a name worth noting, and you didn't make the link?
17:22 <Olivebirdy>
17:22 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> Olivebirdy:
17:22 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> do you want to get married?
17:22 <Olivebirdy> Sure, eventually.
17:23 — Elara tuts at Panth
17:23 <panth> ...oh. OH.
17:23 <panth> HA.
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17:24 <panth> See, I told you I'm sure I missed obvious clues!
17:24 <howl> If you share them like that Olive people are going to stop proposing to you in PM.
17:24 <Elara> that was asked in chan howl, 's ok :P
17:24 <Olivebirdy> Why is Wollstone important?
17:24 <Olivebirdy> ^Elara
17:25 <panth> Mary Wollstonecraft, writer of the Frankenstein novel
17:25 <panth> >_>
17:25 <howl> I missed it >_<
17:25 <Elara> Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley wrote Frankenstein
17:25 <Bruticus> Bit of a mouthful
17:25 <panth> Also 'bow WOULD start the thing by killing cats xD
17:25 <howl> lol
17:26 <panth> Decided not to mention that but still
17:26 <tubes> Luminifera: you'll have to convert
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17:26 <tubes> Olivebirdy: presumably in twig-verse, frankenstein wasn't a work of fiction, but an instruction manual
17:26 <howl> I don't know /my/ maiden name, let alone Mary Shellys.
17:27 <Elara> ...you have a maiden name, howl? :P
17:27 <tubes> uh
17:27 <tubes> how would you not know your maiden name?
17:27 <tubes> were you hit in the head or something?
17:27 <howl> I suppose I meant my mum's maiden name >_>
17:28 <Elara> that's a bit different. also only requires knowing your grandparents' name
17:28 <Olivebirdy> No, I mean, Frankenstine was writter by Mary Shelley.
17:28 <Olivebirdy> Was Wollstone her penname?
17:28 <Olivebirdy> Ohhh
17:29 <tubes> wllstonecraft was her maiden name
17:29 <Elara> not even tubes, it was her mother's surname
17:29 <Olivebirdy> The book was presumably called Wollstone's Crafts.
17:29 <Elara> Mary Shelley seems to have used it as a middle name, her birth name was Godwin
17:29 <tubes> well her mother was semi-famous
17:30 <tubes> as a philosopher type or whatever
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17:30 <tubes> speak of the devil
17:30 <Elara> hey Wilbur
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17:30 <Elara> panth has finally started reading Twig, and doing it in public XD
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17:32 <Elara> o/ Lacks
17:32 <howl> I'll look later so nobody can figure out what my sv username is.
17:32 <Lacks> G'day Elara.  How's it goin'?
17:32 <Elara> I had a job interview this mornin'. went ok I think, hear in a couple of days
17:33 <Elara> other than that nm
17:33 <Lacks> Fun times.
17:33 <Elara> how bout you?
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17:34 <Bruticus> So I finally picked Cenotaph back up
17:34 <howl> Elara, are you in London?
17:34 <Elara> howl no, why?
17:34 <howl> I assumed you were since you were getting oxbridge applicants.
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17:35 <howl> I was just wondering what the software employment landscape looked like in non-Leeds cities.
17:35 <Elara> ahaha no, I went to London to interview people who want to go to Oxbridge
17:35 <Lacks> Not too much right now, I'd say.  Physio is picking up, and my back is seeing some improvement, so I'm happy.  But it's exhausting and often really painful.
17:35 <Lacks> So I got basically zero energy.
17:35 <Lacks> Kind of just working on physio and sleeping, this last week or so.
17:36 <Elara> um, good in Oxford so far? not great in Birmingham. good in Cambridge, I hear, seems to be pretty good in Bristol
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17:39 <Elara> shitloads of stuff in London, but good luck getting paid enough you can afford to live there :P
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17:41 <Elara> anyway, I'm off. later folks o/
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17:47 <Luminifera> tubes ?
17:49 <tubes> wat
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17:52 <Luminifera> convert.. ???
17:53 <Olivebirdy> He means to Judaism.
17:53 <Luminifera> why????
17:54 <Luminifera> I'm agnosticn
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17:56 <Olivebirdy> In other words, not jewish.
17:56 <Luminifera> ah yeah that too.
17:56 <howl> I had an ex-Albanian coworker who tried to convert to Mormonism for his girlfriend.
17:57 <Luminifera> why would i want to be?
17:57 <Luminifera> no offense.
17:57 <tubes> to marry Olivebirdy ?
17:57 <tubes> you did propose to him earlier
17:57 <Luminifera> I did???
17:58 — Olivebirdy mimics Dory: "I have short-term memory loss."
17:59 <Luminifera> :(
17:59 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> Olivebirdy:
17:59 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> do you want to get married?
18:00 <Luminifera> but
18:00 <•Wildbow> Did Olive say yses?
18:00 <•Wildbow> *yes?
18:00 <Luminifera> I didn't ask you to marry me, I just asked if he wanted to marry someone
18:00 <Nae`cloud> Why can't Olivebirdy convert instead
18:00 <Luminifera> convert to agnosticism? xD
18:01 <Nae`cloud> Yeah
18:01 <Olivebirdy> I said 'Sure'.
18:01 <Nae`cloud> Just stop believing
18:01 <Nae`cloud> Simples
18:01 <Olivebirdy> I'm an athiest.
18:01 <Luminifera> ah
18:01 <Lacks> Know what game I liked?  Legend of Mana.  One of my favorite PS1 games.
18:01 <Luminifera> then we're peachy!!!
18:02 <Olivebirdy> My parents would be somewhat annoyed.
18:02 <howl> Reading about Fanny Imlay, sad story :/
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18:03 <Luminifera> my parents too :)
18:03 <Luminifera> hahaa
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18:05 <Olivebirdy> ;)
18:07 <Nae`cloud> Lumi/olive otp
18:07 <Shem_Phone> who's gonna be the bridesmaid?
18:07 <Shem_Phone> or are they bridesmaids, plural
18:07 <howl> "whilst I lend fresh blushes to the rose, I sharpen the thorns that will wound the breast I would fain guard—I dread to unfold her mind, lest it should render her unfit for the world she is to inhabit—Hapless woman! what a fate is thine!" - Mary Wollstonecraft.
18:07 <howl> ~"If I teach her to actually think, she'll be sad at how screwed she is."
18:08 <howl> Can I be a bridesmaid?
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18:09 <Shem_Phone> Did she really just choke a woman with her own arm?
18:09 <OliveB> WHo?
18:10 <Shem_Phone> Twig spoilers!
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18:12 <Shem_Phone> Wildbow: if you aren't planning to publish Pact, why is there no PDF of it? :/
18:12 <Luminifera> howl
18:12 <Luminifera> yes
18:13 <•Wildbow> In part I'm just wanting to forget Pact exists.
18:13 <•Wildbow> It's not -bad- but it's not work I'm terribly proud of
18:14 <Shem_Phone> noooo but it's so great so far
18:14 <Shem_Phone> (arc 5)
18:15 <soulpelt|> good lord Telltale games is doing a fucking Minecraft game.
18:16 <Shem_Phone> they've announced it a year ago, didn't they?
18:16 <Shem_Phone> It can't be that bad, it's a telltale game
18:17 — soulpelt| laughs and points to The Walking Dead game
18:17 <howl> It's going to be a minecraft themed adventure game, right?
18:17 <Shem_Phone> but my standards for games are pretty low. And Telltale do have a tendency to repeat mistakes
18:18 <•Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/f3YBhak
18:19 <OliveB> Shem, feel like doing a Let's Read?
18:20 <Shem_Phone> If only I had the writing skills for it, or the idea to start or 5 arcs ago
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18:20 <Shem_Phone> I kind of suck at giving interesting feedback
18:22 <Bruticus> The Walking Dead is pretty damn good
18:22 <Bruticus> The game, at least
18:22 <•Wildbow> @ Spelt - I don't take issue with the walking dead game.
18:22 <Shem_Phone> I liked it too
18:23 <•Wildbow> I think it's limited in options, and I don't like the setting, but it's not a horrible thing
18:23 <•Wildbow> Execution is decent enough for what it is
18:23 <soulpelt|> more of the options never seem to matter
18:23 <Shem_Phone> Oh. I wanted to say: Avis is a fine name for a birdkeeper.
18:24 <Shem_Phone> Also, does The Duke have a name too, or does he only have a title?
18:24 <Luminifera> oh rly :P
18:24 <Luminifera> avis
18:24 <Luminifera> what was her last name again?
18:25 <Shem_Phone> something like Mendelbach
18:25 <Shem_Phone> or Leidenbrot
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18:26 <Bruticus> Though TFTB is my favourite Telltale work
18:27 <•Wildbow> Tales from the...?
18:27 <Shem_Phone> "Avis Pardoe"
18:27 <Shem_Phone> I was close
18:27 <Shem_Phone> Tales from the Borderlands.
18:28 <Shem_Phone> Probably my favorite as well, even though I don't like the Borderlands games
18:28 <Bruticus> I find the writing and in game options so damn funny
18:29 <Luminifera> pardoe sounds like bird stuff too
18:30 <Shem_Phone> Pardoe sounds weird. hardly avian
18:30 <Shem_Phone> should be Avis Aglierra
18:30 <Luminifera> http://41.media.tumblr.com/3abcf21e13a6f8366d8252fa8673c22e/tumblr_njbp4sbyep1un3k3to1_540.png
18:30 <Luminifera> you gotta
18:31 <Shem_Phone> *You Gotta
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18:37 <•Wildbow> It would be weird if she just had a bird first and last name
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18:42 <Bruticus> Jesus Christ I can't wait for breakfast
18:42 <Lacks> It's almost 2pm...
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18:42 <Bruticus> I know
18:42 <Lacks> I think the time for breakfast is passed.
18:43 <Lacks> past
18:43 <VereorNox> Ohai Wildbo!
18:43 <Bruticus> But that's what happens when you get up at 11:15 for a 12 lecture
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18:43 <Bruticus> And there's a place in town that serves all day breakfast
18:43 — Luminifera salutes the waldo
18:43 <Lacks> Well fair enough then.
18:43 <Luminifera> my mom still calls you Aldo
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18:43 <Bruticus> Eggs Benedict is waiting for me
18:43 <Lacks> On another note, everyone talks about the cannons in the 1812 Overture, but nobody ever really mentions the church bells.  I wonder why?
18:44 <Teruzi> the cannons are way more interesting?
18:44 <Teruzi> I mean, realtalk
18:44 <Teruzi> using church bells is hard, but doable
18:44 <tubes> ^
18:44 <Teruzi> using cannons means you went out of your way to get them
18:44 <tubes> church bells super doable
18:44 <tubes> since you know, churches use them all the time
18:44 <Teruzi> and incorporated them into the song
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18:44 <Lacks> The cannons are cool, to be sure, but the bells add a lot more to the piece, I think.
18:44 <Teruzi> and you did it properly!
18:45 <tubes> think about back in the day with those cannons
18:45 <tubes> he had to find them
18:45 <tubes> and roll them into the concert hall
18:45 <tubes> he had artillerymen in his orchestra
18:45 <Lacks> Plus, it's not easy to use church bells like that.  There was a whole art to it, that was nearly lost in the Russian Revolution.
18:46 <Shem_Phone> it's really hard to differentiate between cannons and fannons, sometimes
18:46 <Lacks> Tchaikovsky wrote the piece as a victory anthem for something-or-other, also, so getting cannons for it wouldn't have been *that* hard.
18:47 <VereorNox> Hi Lacks!
18:47 <Lacks> G'day Vern.
18:47 <Lacks> How's it goin'?
18:47 <VereorNox> Slowly
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18:47 <Lacks> Still having eye problems?
18:48 <VereorNox> Nah, but I'm mute for a while
18:48 <VereorNox> My throat hurts horribly
18:48 <Teruzi> that's ... the opposite of a problem
18:48 <Lacks> You just can't catch a break, huh?
18:48 <Teruzi> that's an improvement
18:48 <VereorNox> All noises I make are mostly pitiful whines
18:48 <Teruzi> (not that anyone can tell the difference)
18:48 <Teruzi> aw, that was mean
18:48 <Teruzi> I'm sorry Vern
18:49 <Teruzi> I hope you get better
18:49 <Teruzi> :<
18:49 <Luminifera> Vern :(
18:49 <Lacks> But seriously Vern, what do you do to get all these infections or whatever?
18:51 <VereorNox> Eh, my brother had something before he left for Italy
18:52 <Teruzi> man, that's some luck
18:52 <Teruzi> being sick on the school trip
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18:57 <howl> In Dwarf Fortress, is it cheating to send a suicide squad of dedicated miners out, to dig themselves to death building your city and infrastrucutre, then send out another party of the actual citizens to reclaim the ruins?
18:57 <howl> Because to me, it just seems like sensible planning.
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19:02 <Teruzi> no man
19:02 <Teruzi> it sounds dworfy
19:05 <•Clarvel> ^
19:05 <•Clarvel> proper dorf
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19:43 <•Clarvel> got quiet
19:43 — VereorNox will never forget the adventures of Clarvel dorf
19:44 <•Clarvel> ?
19:44 <•Clarvel> clarv tried DF once
19:45 <•Clarvel> took an nour to start
19:45 <VereorNox> i made a fort with a bunch of people from chat
19:45 <•Clarvel> at least, I think I started
19:45 <VereorNox> Clarvel dorf got hung by a chain, thrown off a tower
19:45 <VereorNox> and lost his legs while falling down
19:45 <•Clarvel> D:
19:45 <Elara> soooo....my rent was paid. well, a slightly wrong amount was paid
19:45 <•Clarvel> DD:
19:45 <Elara> I cannot find what bank account it was paid *from*
19:45 <•Clarvel> above or below
19:45 <Elara> £20 below
19:46 <•Clarvel> how many banks do you have?
19:46 <Elara> so the amount it's short is no biggie
19:46 <Elara> 3 accounts
19:46 <Elara> have checked all of them
19:46 <•Clarvel> the statements may not have updated?
19:46 <•Clarvel> can you wait a day?
19:46 <•Clarvel> contact your local branch?
19:46 <Teruzi> ....
19:46 <Teruzi> who paid it?
19:46 <Teruzi> AND WHY
19:46 <Teruzi> Elara, you're either in a romantic comedy
19:46 <Teruzi> a drama
19:46 <Teruzi> or a horror movie
19:46 <•Nae> check timestamp on latest transaction in all three accounts
19:47 <•Clarvel> or JENTHULHU's stomach
19:47 <Elara> well this is the thing lads, it shoulda been paid on the 1st
19:47 <•Clarvel> a tad late then
19:47 <Elara> so yeah I have records after that for all the accounts
19:47 <•Nae> also isn't there a confirmation message you get on every successful transaction?
19:47 <•Nae> via email or text
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19:54 <Elara> Nae nope. think I could set it up for sending people money, but not for direct debits or standing orders
19:54 <•Nae> I get confirmation for literally everything
19:54 <•Nae> :|
19:55 <•Nae> ATM, debit
19:55 <Elara> that would drive me bonkers
19:55 <•Nae> I find it comforting
20:01 <Elara> about the only possibility left is that I set it up on my partner's personal account, but how the hell would I have logged in as her? :S
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20:09 <•Clarvel> hey lank
20:10 <lankhmar> hiya
20:10 <lankhmar> how're you doing?
20:10 <•Clarvel> inda tired
20:11 <lankhmar> heh I know the feeling
20:11 <•Clarvel> busy week this week
20:11 <•Clarvel> better than yesterday, was falling asleep in class
20:12 <lankhmar> heheh students
20:12 <•Clarvel> last semester
20:12 <Elara> feckin studos
20:12 <•Clarvel> studos?
20:12 <lankhmar> Last week I was at work from 9-7 every day, and that's not including the day I started at 6 because I forgot I had 2 hours of meetings in the afternoon
20:13 <lankhmar> And experimental timepoints can only be shifted 2 ways XD
20:13 <Elara> students = studos :P
20:13 <•Clarvel> ah
20:13 <•Clarvel> clarv has 2 midterms monday
20:13 <•Clarvel> ;_;
20:14 <lankhmar> Well the student life is variable
20:14 <lankhmar> yea was going to say, varies from little to AHAHA NO TIME, NO TIME, AAAHHH
20:14 <Teruzi> persevere Clarv
20:14 <Teruzi> I got exams this week as well
20:14 <Elara> I once knew a particularly foulmouthed Welsh infantry sergeant (but I repeat myself) who made "studo" sound like more of a swearword than cunt or fuck
20:14 <Teruzi> not particularly scared tho
20:14 <•Nae> what does studo even mean
20:15 <Elara> oh scroll up laddy :P
20:15 <•Nae> oh
20:15 <•Nae> derp
20:15 <•Nae> so he was basically Filch from harry potter
20:15 <•Nae> XD
20:15 <lankhmar> well no because filch was in a *PG* story
20:16 <lankhmar> XD
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20:16 <•Nae> it's only PG in your mind lank
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20:16 <•Nae> ;)
20:16 <Teruzi> that sounded filthy
20:16 <Teruzi> o_o
20:16 <lankhmar> well that *does* put a new spin on the "chains in his office" bit hahahaha
20:17 <•Nae> Teruzi bby it was meant to be
20:17 <Elara> Filch is welsh?
20:17 — •Nae wiggles his eyes at Teruzi
20:17 <Teruzi> oh my
20:17 — JENTHULHU waggles her tentacles around the room
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20:23 <Olivebirdy> Lankmar; Wow, it does. And the fact that he complained about not being able to whip students...
20:25 <howl> And why did they even have a cleaner when the place was full of house elves.
20:26 <Teruzi> ....
20:26 <Teruzi> man everything got a lot creepier
20:26 <Elara> he's probably like wossname, Hagrid. I get the sense Hogwarts has a thing for waifs and strays :P
20:27 <Olivebirdy> Oh god, howl.
20:27 <Olivebirdy> wossname! <3
20:27 <howl> Wossname?
20:28 <howl> Oh wossname.
20:30 <tubes> Elara: have you seen the kay and peele skit
20:30 <Elara> no
20:31 <tubes> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=399_1357408167&comments=1
20:31 <tubes> got dmca'd off youtube i think
20:31 <tubes> but it's p gr9
20:31 <tubes> "Last week I confiscated a wand with a silencer on it. WHY? I ask again, WHY?"
20:33 <howl> So Filch, a squib, is responsible for keeping the entire castle clean. A job which he knows is superfluous thanks to the house elves everywhere. Every room he sweeps, every suit of armour he polishes, he knows could have been done in the snap of a house elf's fingers. At the same time he has to watch rich, entitled brats running around, casually displaying power he can see but can never grasp, becoming nothing but a joke to them. At the
20:33 <howl> same time, because he has so few options as a squib, he has to keep working at it. He has to be grateful for it. Whoever hired Filch is a complete sadist.
20:34 <tubes> he doesn't clean the castle, does he?
20:34 <tubes> i always figured he was like, hall monitor basically
20:34 <tubes> he mostly appears to complain about STUDENTS OUT AFTER CURFEW
20:34 <howl> I assume so, he was caretaker.
20:35 <tubes> i really doubt he does much in the way of manual cleaning
20:35 <Teruzi> actually
20:35 <Bruticus> There needs to be a story about a Squib who uses their ability to see magical occurrences but uses modern technology such as firearms
20:35 <Teruzi> Filch AT LEAST is payed
20:36 <Teruzi> I'm not sure if the elfs receive compensation for being
20:36 <Teruzi> uh
20:36 <Teruzi> slaves
20:36 <Bruticus> They'd hunt trolls or something
20:37 <howl> The house elves are even-more-domesticated Brownies aren't they?
20:38 <howl> Brownies traditionally felt insulted and left if you tried to pay them.
20:38 <cukier> Brownies are alive? :0 I ate so many of them!
20:39 <Megafire> You monster.
20:39 <cukier> :(
20:39 <howl> D: the brownimity
20:40 <Luminifera> hello
20:40 <Luminifera> my mom is making a cake
20:40 <Luminifera> it's nice
20:40 <Megafire> What kind of cake?
20:40 <cukier> Hello.
20:40 <Luminifera> ah, not brownies.
20:40 <Elara> brownies would play tricks on you if you didn't pay up
20:40 <Luminifera> a banana cake. made with bananas. and orange juice. and oatmeal and stuff
20:40 <Luminifera> hello cuki!
20:40 <Megafire> Ew, bananas.
20:41 <cukier> Cake with orange juice?
20:41 <Elara> ooh banana cake :)
20:41 <Bruticus> Banana bread though
20:41 <Bruticus> Hot banana bread with butter
20:41 <howl> banana cake? :&
20:41 <Elara> banana cake is better
20:41 <Luminifera> Orange juice instead of water/milk
20:41 <Elara> orange juice is an interesting addition tho
20:41 <Bruticus> You tell that to my face, Elara
20:42 <cukier> I want to know how it tastes.
20:42 <Bruticus> And you tell that to my gran's face
20:42 — Elara looks Bruti in the face "banana cake is better than banana bread"
20:43 <Luminifera> in a few, I'll tell you, cuki c:
20:43 — Bruticus implodes in on himself in a space-time rift and vanishes
20:43 <howl> Carrot cake > Bananana cake
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20:44 — cukier is waiting patiently for Lumi's description.
20:45 <Megafire> Look, look, look!
20:45 <Megafire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AerA9uNw98
20:45 <Megafire> It's my choir singing!
20:45 <cukier> Are you in the video Mega?
20:46 <Megafire> I am.
20:46 <howl> btw, researched it, Filch totally had to manually clean. Maybe he was being punshed for something.
20:46 <cukier> Which person are you?
20:46 <Megafire> Front row, dude on the right.
20:46 <Megafire> The guy wearing glasses.
20:48 <cukier> :)
20:48 <cukier> Nice.
20:49 <•Nae> what are you singing
20:49 — •Nae wants to know before clicking
20:49 <•Nae> :p
20:49 <Megafire> Ordinary Love from U2.
20:50 <JENTHULHU> you should sing the ballad of irving
20:51 <howl> ._.
20:51 <JENTHULHU> ?
20:52 <Luminifera> the cake is in the oven, cuki
20:52 <Luminifera> it's not ready yet
20:52 <Teruzi> U2 tho
20:52 <Teruzi> eh
20:52 <cukier> But, but... I want a cake.
20:52 <cukier> :(
20:53 <Elara> you're such a skinny nerd Mega <3
20:53 — JENTHULHU offers cake....
20:53 <Megafire> I really am.
20:53 <Megafire> I am the skiniest nerd.
20:53 <Teruzi> which one is Mega?
20:53 <Megafire> Front row dude with glasses.
20:53 — howl foolishly takes slice of cake
20:53 <JENTHULHU> *howl becomes cukier*
20:54 <Teruzi> hmm
20:54 <Teruzi> pretty thin!
20:54 <•Nae> Teruzi
20:54 — howl replaces cake slice
20:54 <•Nae> perform your duties
20:54 <Teruzi> Nae
20:54 — cukier eaths cake.
20:54 <Teruzi> yes
20:54 <cukier> eats*
20:54 <cukier> Om nom nom.
20:54 <cukier> Thank you!
20:54 <Megafire> I weigh about 63 kg and I'm 1.88 meters tall.
20:54 <Megafire> So, yeah.
20:54 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6okxuiiHx2w
20:54 — cukier hugs JENTHULHU.
20:54 <Teruzi> also Mega, if I saw you in bar I would hit on you
20:54 <Teruzi> :3
20:54 <•Nae> <3 Teruzi
20:54 <Megafire> What, really?
20:55 <Teruzi> yeah, sure
20:55 <Teruzi> why not
20:55 <JENTHULHU> *cukier becomes a mermaid*
20:55 <•Nae> this is good
20:55 <Teruzi> people with standards are boring
20:55 <cukier> :0
20:55 <Megafire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIMVnKjcaCg
20:55 <Teruzi> yeah Nae, it's a good video too
20:55 <cukier> Where are my legs?
20:55 <Megafire> Oh boo.
20:55 <Teruzi> :D
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20:55 <•Nae> you know what this server needs
20:55 <•Nae> a #music
20:55 <•Nae> that's what
20:55 — •Nae used to run one
20:55 <JENTHULHU> cukier: you have a fish tail instead
20:55 <cukier> I liked my legs. :(
20:55 <•Nae> but nobody had any interest :(
20:56 <JENTHULHU> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVsgAWdQX8
20:56 <Teruzi> pfft, we can talk music here
20:56 <Teruzi> I mean, most people listen to odd music anyways
20:56 <Teruzi> :D
20:56 <Teruzi> (also Mega, I was joking, you're cute enough)
20:56 <Teruzi> (and I do have standards, gosh)
20:56 <Megafire> (Could've fooled me.)
20:57 <•Nae> lol
20:57 <Megafire> And now I'm not sure whether I'm insulting you or me.
20:57 <Teruzi> yes
20:57 <Teruzi> both
20:57 <Megafire> Anyway, thank you.
20:57 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg6BwvDcANg
20:57 <Teruzi> Nae
20:57 <Teruzi> more
20:57 <Teruzi> alt J is a hit or miss
20:57 <Teruzi> kinda deal
20:57 <•Nae> nice
20:58 <•Nae> I like the video too
20:58 — cukier flaps his tail.
20:58 <JENTHULHU> her
20:58 <JENTHULHU> you're a mermaid
20:58 <Teruzi> woo
20:58 <JENTHULHU> not a merman
20:58 <cukier> :D
20:58 <cukier> Magi
20:58 — cukier splashes
20:58 <cukier> Karp
20:58 <Teruzi> oh yeah, I saw the Sans fight on youtube
20:58 <Teruzi> that shit is insane
20:58 <Teruzi> o_o
20:59 <•Nae> wut
20:59 <howl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhIc8IIXuIY
20:59 <cukier> Do I have fabulous hair Jen?
20:59 <cukier> And everything?
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20:59 <JENTHULHU> maybe
20:59 — cukier looks at his boobs.
20:59 <cukier> her*
21:00 <howl> The famous shells are actually anatomical. You're not a mammal.
21:00 <Luminifera> mega
21:00 <Teruzi> something from Undertale, Nae
21:00 <Luminifera> you look like a nerd
21:00 <Luminifera> xD
21:00 <Teruzi> want more?
21:00 <Megafire> Well, Lumi, I am a nerd.
21:01 <Megafire> So that's just efficient social signalling.
21:01 <•Nae> moar
21:01 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51V1VMkuyx0
21:01 <•Nae> moar
21:01 — •Nae demands more
21:01 <Teruzi> that one is relatively popular
21:01 <Teruzi> you've heard it before, I'm sure
21:01 <Teruzi> but hey
21:01 <Teruzi> it's nice
21:01 <•Nae> oh I've heard it
21:01 <•Nae> yes
21:01 <cukier> Howl: You're such moodkiller.
21:01 <•Nae> still good
21:01 <•Nae> man I can't remember where I've heard it though
21:01 <•Nae> some video game/
21:02 <Teruzi> probably the radio, or a game
21:02 <Teruzi> yeah
21:02 <howl> Actually wearing seashells of cretures you know personally to be sentient and capable of playing music with you would be like wearing a bra made of human skulls.
21:02 <cukier> SO METAL
21:02 <Teruzi> doable
21:02 <Teruzi> ALSO PRETTY METAL
21:02 <Teruzi> yes
21:03 <cukier> I need some human skulls bra.
21:03 <cukier> I can wear it over seashells.
21:03 <tubes> "Last year one in five students at Clothor's was pregnant with a DEMON BABY" "Now lets not exaggerate, the mothers, they're good kids, but, uh, yes, the babies were indeed evil demon babies"
21:04 <howl> good luck not getting killed on sight by sailors. Skull bras aren't a good omen for sailors.
21:04 <Teruzi> what is a good omen for sailors?
21:04 <Teruzi> fuckers can't walk 'cause it's a bad omen
21:04 <Teruzi> the barely breathe
21:05 <cukier> I heard women weren't allowed on ships because bad omen.
21:05 <cukier> So normal bras are bad for them too.
21:05 <cukier> Skulls or no skulls.
21:06 <Megafire> Pfft, mermaids drew sailors to the deep anyway.
21:06 <Megafire> So you being a mermaid is a bad omen.
21:06 <howl> black cats, whistling, and kobolds are considered lucky by sailors.
21:06 <cukier> Yeah. So two skulls one way or another wouldn't make a difference.
21:06 <howl> If you were a kobold, you'd be fine.
21:06 <Elara> black cats *are* lucky
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21:08 <Luminifera> I bet I look incredibly silly with my hair like this
21:08 <Elara> hair like what Lumi?
21:09 <Teruzi> Nae!
21:09 <Teruzi> you've heard Metronomy?
21:10 <cukier> Can kobolds swim and have fabulous hair? I don't think so.
21:10 <•Nae> no...
21:10 <cukier> I want to be a mermaid.
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21:10 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PnOG67flRA
21:10 <Teruzi> bap
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21:10 <Luminifera> gosh I look so tired.
21:10 <Luminifera> I feel tired
21:10 <Elara> you're so cute
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21:10 <Luminifera> :P
21:10 <cukier> You are cute.
21:11 <Teruzi> you look 12
21:11 <Teruzi> it's kinda shocking
21:11 <Luminifera> :P
21:11 <Luminifera> is it really
21:11 <Teruzi> how young you seem?
21:11 <Elara> Tuzi rude
21:11 <Teruzi> yes
21:11 <Teruzi> yes it is
21:11 <•Nae> not bad Teruzi
21:11 <Teruzi> pfft, it's not a bad thing
21:11 <Teruzi> I'm telling her she looks young
21:11 <Teruzi> and she does
21:11 <•Nae> I could get used to this
21:11 <Luminifera> I am actually 12
21:11 •Teruzi was halfopped (+h) by ChanServ
21:11 <Luminifera> 12 people
21:11 <•Teruzi> ha ha
21:11 <•Teruzi> a coven
21:11 <Luminifera> we present ourselves as one
21:11 <•Teruzi> well Nae, I'm just linking you shit from my playlist
21:12 <•Nae> :D
21:12 <•Nae> good good
21:12 <•Nae> I don't listen to new music much
21:12 <•Nae> make this a daily routine Teruzi. Feed meeee
21:12 <•Teruzi> hmmm
21:12 <•Teruzi> could do like
21:12 <•Teruzi> four songs a day, I guess
21:12 <•Teruzi> sure
21:13 <•Nae> I also use this btw
21:13 <•Nae> noonpacific.com
21:13 <•Nae> emails me a list of songs
21:13 <•Nae> but that's weekly
21:13 <•Teruzi> I click stuff
21:14 <•Teruzi> and my cousin listens to a lot of music
21:14 <•Teruzi> so I hear a lot of new shit
21:14 <•Nae> music discovery is my main problem yeah
21:14 <•Nae> don't know many people irl who are into new stuff
21:14 <•Nae> or any really
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21:15 <•Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY
21:15 <•Nae> you really do look weird in that one
21:15 <•Teruzi> well, I can help some
21:15 <•Nae> ha
21:15 <•Nae> Nightcall
21:15 <•Nae> I love this
21:15 <•Nae> Drive <3
21:16 <•Teruzi> it was a good movie
21:16 <•Teruzi> but the soundtrack was literally 100% of the reason I like it as much as I do
21:16 <howl> My music discovery took a hit when John Peel died, and then another when I stopped watching TV and stopped watching Joolz
21:16 <•Nae> I obsessed over this song for months
21:16 <Luminifera> we are actually 12 very smol people with very differentiated bodies that look like a skinny female human's body parts.
21:17 <Megafire> Huh.
21:17 <Elara> that's pretty impressive
21:17 <Luminifera> the "me" that speaks to you is mostly just the fingers part.
21:17 <•Teruzi> good coordination
21:17 <Elara> coordination like that is quite tricky
21:17 <Luminifera> the "me" of the selfies is the face.
21:17 <howl> Isn't that an Adventure Time plot?
21:17 <•Nae> ~~They're talking about you boy...but you're still the same~
21:17 <Megafire> That's some impressive synchronised evolution, too.
21:17 <Luminifera> there's also the "me" of the butt which we are very ashamed of. our condolences
21:17 <•Teruzi> well, if you've listened to that one already
21:17 <•Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7lkYLJfiw
21:17 <•Teruzi> this one you probably haven't
21:17 VereorNox → vernZzZz
21:18 <Luminifera> thank you! we are a very cohesive society.
21:18 <howl> You should had the keyboard over to butinifera for a bit, give her a voice.
21:19 <howl> I can't imagine how stifled I'd feel if I weren't allowed to ever speak.
21:19 <•Nae> nice nice
21:19 <Luminifera> she can't type.
21:19 <Luminifera> :| it's a butt.
21:19 <•Teruzi> apparently that dude does everything in the song
21:19 <•Teruzi> from voice to instruments
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21:19 <Elara> you could interpret for her or something Lumifingers
21:20 <Megafire> And all of your bodyparts are female?
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21:21 <howl> I hadn't listened to Kavinksy before.
21:22 <•Teruzi> it's pretty sweet
21:22 <•Teruzi> if you liked that song, you'll like the rest of his work
21:23 <cukier> Guys. I just want to brag to you. My happiness level is a lot above average. I don't feel excited, but... content? I think that's the word. I would like to feel like this all the time.
21:24 <•Teruzi> is it because of drugs Sugar?
21:25 <cukier> No.
21:25 <Megafire> What did you do, Cukier?
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21:25 <howl> Mermaidhood agrees with cookei.
21:25 <cukier> Unless you count one glass of wine in the middle of a day(it's night now) as drugs.
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21:26 <cukier> I did nothing substantial. I was programming all day. And things went smoothly.
21:26 <•Nae> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZictXwrEUI Teruzi
21:26 <cukier> And I made tasty... what's the name... in the morning.
21:26 <Megafire> Nice.
21:27 <cukier> Scrambled eggs?
21:27 <Megafire> Probably.
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21:28 <•Teruzi> well, I'm glad you're glad
21:28 <Luminifera> the cake is ready!!!!
21:28 <•Teruzi> yeah Nae, I like the whole album
21:28 <cukier> And now I want to drive a bike while listening to the podcasts.
21:28 <•Teruzi> I even bought it
21:28 <•Nae> buying music in 2015
21:28 <cukier> Have you noticed that everything sounds different at night?
21:28 <•Nae> wow
21:29 <•Nae> I respect you
21:29 <•Nae> XD
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21:29 <•Teruzi> yyyeah, well
21:29 <cukier> Lumi! Send me some cake!
21:29 <•Nae> cukier: it's the ambiance
21:29 <•Teruzi> I do it for certain artists
21:29 <Luminifera> :D
21:29 <•Nae> put on music with low volume at night
21:29 <•Teruzi> and only if the music is available in youtube
21:29 <•Nae> and everything's chill
21:29 <•Nae> ~~
21:29 <cukier> Nae: I'm buying albums mainly because they aren't on the internet. :(
21:30 <•Nae> last time I purchased music, I was < 15yo and it was a cassette Teruzi
21:30 <•Nae> not even joking
21:30 <•Nae> XD
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21:30 <cukier> Nae: Or rather it's only on youtube and probably only about 3 songs from the album.
21:30 <•Nae> cukier: everything is on the internet
21:31 <•Nae> you just have to find the right place
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21:31 <•Nae> I'm actually a member of a super secret music tracker
21:31 <•Teruzi> oh my
21:31 <•Nae> but I barely download
21:31 <Elara> ooh nice
21:31 <•Nae> cake <3
21:31 <howl> I don't feel particularly happy or sad.
21:32 <cukier> Nae: I got a request for you in this case
21:32 <Luminifera> I feel okay right now :)
21:32 <•Nae> sure
21:32 <howl> Argh bananana cake
21:32 <cukier> Sara Brylewska - skąd przyszłaś
21:32 <cukier> :D
21:32 <howl> † get back
21:33 <cukier> Full album please. :D
21:33 <Luminifera> nae weren't you a child 15 years ago?
21:33 <•Nae> lemme check
21:33 <•Nae> yes Lumi
21:33 <•Nae> I was
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21:33 <Elara> not surprised you feel ok Lumi, cake is always good
21:33 <•Nae> I went to buy an album with my dad
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21:33 <•Nae> uhh cukier , which is the album and which is the artist
21:34 <•Nae> <_<
21:34 <cukier> Sara Brylewska is the artist
21:34 <Luminifera> Sara is the artist?
21:34 <•Nae> nvm found
21:34 <Luminifera> I meam
21:34 <Luminifera> Sara is a name
21:34 <cukier> and "Skąd Przyszłaś" is the name of the album.
21:34 <•Nae> eh albums can have weird names as well
21:34 <cukier> \o/
21:34 <howl> Can you find Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart? I already have it, I'm just curious.
21:35 <•Nae> I see 2014 - Hatti Vatti - Worship Nothing Bookmark Vote: by Sara Brylewska
21:35 <•Nae> nothing else
21:35 <•Nae> I can fill out a request I guess
21:35 <cukier> What is this secret tracker? And can I have an invitation?
21:36 <•Nae> you'd have to pass an IRC interview
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21:36 <•Nae> what.cd
21:36 <•Nae> invites are disabled or otherwise I'd invite you
21:36 <cukier> Mhm.
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21:37 <•Nae> howl: found it
21:37 <howl> I was curious just because I can't imagine anyone wanting to share it.
21:37 <•Nae> 400+ people seeding it
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21:37 <•Nae> https://www.dropbox.com/s/eamyplz1fg5o22w/Screenshot%202015-10-07%2002.07.23.png?dl=0
21:38 <Luminifera> Hello Luna!
21:38 <Luminifera> net cologne
21:38 — Luminifera remembers that colon post
21:38 — Luminifera starts giggling
21:38 <Luna> Yo, what's up?
21:38 <Luminifera> you are a teal color on irccloud.
21:38 <howl> I used to work with a guy who claimed it was one of the best albums ever made.
21:39 <cukier> Colon post? o.0
21:39 <Luminifera> hahsha
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21:40 <Luminifera> several twitter screen shots of girls talking about how they love the smell of their boyfriends' colon
21:40 <Rhetorical> wat
21:40 <Elara> Rhetorical!
21:40 <•Nae> howl: a review
21:40 <•Nae> "you should at least realise that it's very technically layered, and the songs were recorded with almost complete disregard to music theory, so it's naturally going to be inaccessible to most people"
21:40 <Rhetorical> Elara!
21:40 <Elara> you're alive
21:40 <Rhetorical> I am
21:40 <Luminifera> Or how they love it when a cute boy passes by and you can smell his colon
21:40 <•Nae> " It took me years and many listenings to appreciate this album. It was worth the effort."
21:40 <•Nae> o_O
21:40 <Luminifera> It just made me laugh so much
21:40 <•Nae> now I'm curious
21:40 <•Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi4pzKvuEQM
21:40 <•Teruzi> bam Nae
21:40 <howl> Give it an experimental listen.
21:40 <•Teruzi> this is good
21:41 <•Teruzi> and the video is entertaining
21:41 <howl> To be fair, it took my a year of gestation before I suddenly started like the mars volta, and that is real music.
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21:50 <howl_> What happen?
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21:50 <Elara> *shrug* something on the server, it's multiple chans
21:50 <Elara> hey EV
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21:51 <ErrantVagrant> Hey hey!  Not on for long, I'm afraid.  I'm still at work, but the boss called and insisted I take a break.
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21:51 <Elara> I like your boss
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21:51 <ErrantVagrant> Well, I'm in goddamn bloodhound mode, and she knows that I'll skip breaks if I don't.
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21:52 <ErrantVagrant> But on the plus side, I think I've found why the numbers have been bothering me.
21:52 <Luminifera> http://40.media.tumblr.com/ee24b82e1ba02dfeb97de769ca054b6e/tumblr_nv90z0kCp11qkvbwso1_500.png
21:52 <howl_> If we're cast adrift on the foamy sea of infinity meet in irc.systemnet.info/#parahumans
21:52 <Elara> what are you hunting down, Captain Bloodhound?
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21:52 <Luminifera> big fucking deal
21:52 <Luminifera> I made a project like that last yeqr
21:52 <Luminifera> :/
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21:52 <Luminifera> I was a first-year graphic design student
21:52 <•Nae> Lumi
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21:52 <•Nae> your dismissal of anything without understanding the nuance behind it is quite annoying
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21:53 <Luminifera> ehhhhhhhhh
21:53 <Luminifera> sorry.
21:53 <Luminifera> It's just.
21:53 <ErrantVagrant> I think that someone in another office is embezzling.
21:53 <•Nae> the system in question creates paintings via Machine Learning
21:53 <Skrattybones> you made an AI for a first year graphic design project? O_o
21:53 <Luminifera> ah
21:53 <•Nae> do you understand what that is?
21:53 <Luminifera> No, I didn't :P
21:53 <Elara> machine learning is pretty seriously cool
21:53 <Luminifera> And no, I dont
21:53 <•Nae> well then
21:53 <•Nae> suffice to say
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21:53 <•Nae> it is a big fucking deal
21:53 <Luminifera> Why teach machines to do... this
21:53 <Rhet|mobile> What is wrong with my connection right now
21:54 <•Nae> Rhet|mobile: netsplit
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21:54 <Luminifera> It's your cingular net
21:54 <Rhet|mobile> Huh?
21:54 <Rhet|mobile> On IRCCloud?
21:54 <Skrattybones> it's the server, not you, Rhet
21:54 <Elara> you know the saying that the only way to really know something is to teach it, Lumi?
21:54 <Rhet|mobile> Ah
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21:54 <Luminifera> :/
21:54 <ErrantVagrant> Before I take what I've found to the accountants, I want to make absolutely sure that I'm seeing what I'm seeing.
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21:54 <Olivebirdy> Hi
21:54 <Elara> makes sense EV
21:54 <Luminifera> eevee what jacketed?
21:54 <Rhet|mobile> What's up, EV?
21:54 <Luminifera> happened*
21:55 <Olivebirdy> What's going on?
21:55 <Elara> well if you can teach it to a computer, you *really* get how it works :P
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21:55 <howl_> At my last job I came up with a simple bayesian classifier to do sentiment analysis, it could do what three dedicated members of the admin team were doing with 90% accuracy. I presented it to the admin manager, and she did not want to take it further.
21:55 Eluvatar → Gundor
21:55 — Luminifera grins at olive
21:55 <•Nae> Luminifera: it's the thing that will lead us to self driving cars
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21:55 <•Nae> actually
21:55 <•Nae> let me correct myself
21:55 <ErrantVagrant> I think someone in another office is embezzling.
21:55 <Elara> nobody wants to fire most of their team howl
21:55 <•Nae> that has already led us to self driving cars
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21:55 <ErrantVagrant> So I'm pulling OT tonight.
21:55 <Rhet|mobile> o_o
21:55 <Luminifera> don't say those words in my presence... now my head won't shut up about he man feeling a little peculiar
21:55 <Olivebirdy> Occupational Therapy?
21:55 <Luminifera> nae :P
21:55 <howl_> Yeah Elara, that's why I quietly dropped it. I was only willing to offer it if it made her team's job easier.
21:55 <Luminifera> :O *
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21:56 <Luminifera> seriously???
21:56 <howl_> I didn't want to get anyone sacked.
21:56 <•Nae> and the latest article I read this week - is being used to predict crime ala Minority Report
21:56 <Luminifera> Wow, I take it back.
21:56 <Luminifera> I super take it back
21:56 <•Nae> is used to identify cancer cells
21:56 <•Nae> etc etc
21:56 <Luminifera> I thought it was just "hey let's make random photos look like some famous painting"
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21:56 <Luminifera> like
21:56 <Luminifera> Why.
21:56 <•Nae> and the simplest use case of course - optical character recognition
21:56 <Elara> thing is howl most places I've worked, there's always scope for stuff like that, because there's always a backlog of other work
21:56 <Elara> but YMMV
21:57 <Luminifera> eevee what's embezzling?
21:57 <ErrantVagrant> Lumi:  Stealing from the company.
21:57 <Elara> nicking money from the company
21:57 <Skrattybones> I want that AI to turn a picture of my butt into a van Gogh :(
21:57 <•Nae> http://googleresearch.blogspot.in/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html
21:57 <Luminifera> !!!!!
21:57 <•Nae> the original research post from which that meme was probably inspired
21:57 <ErrantVagrant> If I'm seeing things right
21:57 <Luminifera> Skrattybones omg
21:58 <ErrantVagrant> and I might not be, which is why I'm covering my ass
21:58 <howl_> Can the algorithm turn me into literally van gogh?
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21:58 <Luminifera> eevee you're a very good employee!!!! ^-^ congratulations!
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21:58 <ErrantVagrant> But if I'm seeing things right, last month they might have gotten away with $60,000
21:58 <Luminifera> O:
21:58 <Elara> 60k doesn't just disappear
21:58 <Luminifera> !!!!!!!
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21:59 <ErrantVagrant> Exactly
21:59 <howl_> How do you report something like that? Do you just pass it to finance and say "These look a bit odd to me, do they look odd to you?" or is it more like "This guy looks like he's embezzeling."
21:59 <ErrantVagrant> So, yeah, I'm obsessing.
21:59 <•Nae> you do it very very carefully
21:59 <ErrantVagrant> Here's how I'm going to do it.
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22:00 <Luminifera> can you get in trouble for this? :(
22:00 <•Nae> we don't want EV to end up in a ditch somewhere
22:00 <•Nae> D:
22:00 <Luminifera> ^
22:00 <Luminifera> :(
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22:00 <•Nae> "IT WAS ME EV, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG! I WAS STEALING THE MONEY"
22:00 <•Nae> *SHOOT*
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22:01 <ErrantVagrant> I'm collecting all the evidence that I can, and I'm going to call a meeting.  If I can show that the numbers have all been fudged by one person in particular, then I can say with absolute certainty that SOMETHING is up, most likely embezzling.
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22:01 <ErrantVagrant> From there, I let them take it over.
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22:01 <Elara> if it's numbers going squiffy from multiple people, that's either incompetence or a conspiracy :P
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22:02 <Olivebirdy> Also, is there a time limit?
22:02 <Teruzi> or both
22:02 <ErrantVagrant> If I can't show that it's all from one person, then I ask accounting to look over it all and see what they can determine, which could (in theory) lead to me getting into trouble.
22:02 <ErrantVagrant> But probably not.
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22:02 <ErrantVagrant> Olive:  Other than someone stealing more money a month than I make in a year?  No.
22:02 <ErrantVagrant> And I'd like to specify, this is in another office, not my own.
22:03 <ErrantVagrant> But I take a gander at paperwork that affects my office, which is what started bothering me.  The numbers were a little too perfect.
22:03 <Elara> too perfect?
22:04 <ErrantVagrant> There's always a degree of variance.
22:04 <ErrantVagrant> I can't go into details, sorry.
22:04 <lankhmar> I know a friend in accounting, suffice to say the stupidity of people is mindboggling
22:04 <Elara> that's ok, I get the vague idea
22:05 <lankhmar> I think the best is someone who bought something, wanted twice as much so they just *paid* twice as much and assumed people would work it out
22:05 <Olivebirdy> Mhm.
22:05 <Elara> bwahahaha
22:05 <lankhmar> No wait, the company who tried to give a refund and then paid it into one of their own accounts
22:06 <lankhmar> Just imagine stuff like that
22:06 <howl_> Aw, I thought this was going to be the reveal scene.
22:06 <ErrantVagrant> With how my company works, brief periods of intense work that needs done yesterday and then stretches of utter boredom, it's easy for things to happen.
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22:06 <Teruzi> EV, you should totes
22:06 <Teruzi> tell someone when you inevitably find evidence of wrong doing
22:06 <Teruzi> otherwise you're gonna get shot or something
22:06 <Teruzi> to keep the secret down
22:06 <Teruzi> it happens always in movies
22:07 <lankhmar> <_<
22:07 <ErrantVagrant> Ha!  It won't.
22:07 <ErrantVagrant> But my boss also knows what I'm doing.
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22:07 <howl_> But EV is more like the Poirot of this situation.
22:07 <howl_> Wait, how insistent was your boss that you take a break from your investigation?
22:07 <ErrantVagrant> And the accounts etc are being logged.
22:08 <Teruzi> yeah but
22:08 <Teruzi> what if your -boss- is on it?
22:08 <Elara> EV = Poirot XD
22:08 <ErrantVagrant> She called me because she remembered that I worked through lunch.
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22:08 <Elara> if the boss is in on it, the boss' best way forwards is to use EV's enforced break to split herself off from the trouble
22:09 <ErrantVagrant> "Did you take any breaks?"  "I... think so?"  "For fucks sakes take a break!"
22:09 <howl_> okay, but don't go on her boat
22:09 <Teruzi> ^
22:09 <Teruzi> or go talk to her in her house
22:09 <ErrantVagrant> ....The skinniest Poirot
22:09 <lankhmar> or accept an offer to pet the sharks
22:09 <ErrantVagrant> B-but bitey!
22:10 <ErrantVagrant> He's adorable!
22:10 <Elara> you can be Hastings if you want EV?
22:10 <Elara> just gotta find your Poirot :P
22:10 <howl_> "Oh, that's old Flesrender. He would't hurt a fly. He's my little goose."
22:10 <Luminifera> hehehe
22:10 <ErrantVagrant> ...Can I be Magnum PI without the mustache?
22:10 <Teruzi> yes
22:10 <howl_> no
22:11 <howl_> you may be MacGuyver
22:11 <ErrantVagrant> ...I ACCEPT THIS
22:11 <Luminifera> ?
22:11 <ErrantVagrant> Now I need a stick of gum, a roll of toilet paper, and an old bicycle to solve this accounting nightmare!
22:11 <Elara> EV = Richard Dean Anderson
22:11 <Elara> in a few years you'll be Jack O'Neill
22:12 <ErrantVagrant> "How did they do this?"  "....Magnets?"
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22:12 — Rhetorical pictures EV with a mullet
22:13 <howl_> What was going on with mullets >.> Why, The 1980s, Why!?
22:13 <Olivebirdy> I lost a thousand shekel once.
22:13 <Olivebirdy> In tge canteen.
22:14 <Olivebirdy> Then I panicked, and found it again.
22:14 <Olivebirdy> :|
22:14 <Olivebirdy> Numbers are hard.
22:15 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, but this is kinda comparable to losing an expensive house every year.
22:15 <howl_> I thought that was going to be about magnets.
22:15 <howl_> I'm now frustrated.
22:15 <ErrantVagrant> "Damn it, I know I had that four car garage yesterday."  "Did you look under the couch?"  "YES."
22:16 <howl_> Does anybody have an anecdote about a magnet being useful.
22:16 <ErrantVagrant> My wit is lost on the medium of text.  I can't even milk spiders here.
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22:17 <Olivebirdy> I have found refrigerator magnets to be useful.
22:18 <ErrantVagrant> Okay, I'm going to nuke my lunch a few hours too late and then get back to work.  Seeya all!
22:18 <Olivebirdy> Bye!
22:18 <howl_> A while after I started playing D&D, I started always equipping my PC with a magnet, fishing hook, twine, wire etc, because they were light, and cheap, and occasionally near-magical. A while later I realised I could actually be also carrying that stuff in real life. So now I always have them with me.
22:18 <howl_> bye EV!
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22:18 <lankhmar> $60,000 dollars is an expensive house?
22:18 <lankhmar> bwahaha
22:18 — howl_ whsipers "Remember, no boats."
22:18 <lankhmar> where I live that won't get you a flat
22:18 <lankhmar> even a small one
22:18 <Rhetorical> 60k a month
22:18 <Rhetorical> Expensive house every year
22:18 <lankhmar> oh
22:19 <lankhmar> right I can't read bwahaha
22:19 <Rhetorical> :P
22:19 <Olivebirdy> Uh, well.
22:19 <Olivebirdy> I wonder if 60,000$ could get you a house here.
22:21 <Rhetorical> That's almost 1.5 times the median household income in the US
22:21 <Rhetorical> I think
22:21 <Olivebirdy> How many square meters is a normal house?
22:22 <Elara> ..who measures houses in sq m?
22:22 <Rhetorical> 2k square feet is typical
22:22 <Rhetorical> Maybe
22:22 <Rhetorical> Here
22:22 <Rhetorical> I dunno
22:22 <Olivebirdy> Hm.
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22:32 <Luminifera> forget s9 00.
22:32 <Luminifera> s9000*
22:32 <Luminifera> http://slaughterhouse90210.tumblr.com
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22:35 <howl_> Ah the S9. I wonder if Myrddin was ever tempted to form his group of 9 brave warrors. A Brute there'd be, and a Mover also, and a Thinker. 9 companions, one for each of the Nine.
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22:36 <Luminifera> :D would be nice!
22:36 <Luminifera> 6:19 PM <Olivebirdy> I wonder if 60,000$ could get you a house here.
22:36 <howl_> "I'll lend my Halberd to your quest." "And my arbalest." "AND MY AXE." "Who are you shorty? Do you have powers?" "... no."
22:36 <Luminifera> Hmm.
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22:37 <Luminifera> two hundred and something something reais... yeah
22:37 <Luminifera> you can buy a house
22:37 <Luminifera> Not a very good one
22:37 <Luminifera> But yeah
22:38 <JENTHULHU> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
22:39 •Teruzi was halfopped (+h) by ChanServ
22:39 <howl_> Also 'worrors'? Wtf, spelling brain.
22:39 <•Teruzi> forgot tot od that again
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22:46 <Bruticus> But seriously, banana desserts > carrot desserts
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22:47 <Luminifera> ^
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22:57 <cukier> Lumi, Lumi.
22:57 <cukier> How does it taste?
22:58 <cukier> You sent a picture, but describe taste for me.
22:58 <Olivebirdy> Are you guys coming to the other server?
22:58 <•Teruzi> oi oi
22:58 <cukier> What other server?
22:58 <•Teruzi> easy there
22:59 <Olivebirdy> Zip
22:59 <Bruticus> cuk, have you never eaten banana bread/cake?
22:59 <cukier> I did not.
23:07 <Skrattybones> you know
23:08 <Skrattybones> considering the lengths the cast of Persona 4 went to keeping that shit on the DL, by the end of all the spinoff games a fucking LOT of people know about it
23:08 <•Teruzi> indeed
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23:09 <Luminifera> ah, cuki! right.
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23:09 <Luminifera> It tastes... like...
23:09 <Luminifera> banana cake...
23:09 <Luminifera> .-.
23:09 <Luminifera> how do you go to the other server?
23:09 <cukier> Banana cake with orange juice?
23:10 <Luminifera> Yes.
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23:14 <Rhetorical> ...
23:14 <Rhetorical> rip
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23:16 <Olivebirdy> I'm booored.
23:17 <lankhmar> well...you want something to read?
23:17 <Olivebirdy> Sure!
23:17 <Olivebirdy> What have you got?
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23:18 <lankhmar> webcomics, some translated novels,
23:18 <lankhmar> general fantasy/sf book recommendations
23:18 <lankhmar> any genres / media types?
23:19 <Olivebirdy> Have you read Unsounded?
23:19 <lankhmar> oh yesssss
23:19 <Olivebirdy> :D
23:19 <Olivebirdy> Werw you the person who recced it to me?
23:19 <lankhmar> although I dropped it for a little bit because each individual update was killing me
23:19 <lankhmar> maybe, maybe not
23:19 <lankhmar> no idea
23:19 <Olivebirdy> Because if you are, thanks so much.
23:20 <Olivebirdy> Amazing art, dialogue!
23:20 <Olivebirdy> Characters are great, colors are wonderful (if a bit red at the moment)
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23:20 <Olivebirdy> Humor is really good.
23:20 <lankhmar> ahahah yes
23:20 <Olivebirdy> Hi Empy
23:21 <Empy> Heya olive
23:21 <Olivebirdy> What webcomic do you like?
23:21 <lankhmar> You might like http://flakypastry.runningwithpencils.com/ then
23:22 <lankhmar> although the art isn't so nice to start with
23:22 <Olivebirdy> I'll check it out.
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23:22 <Olivebirdy> Have you read... Not Halo... Grrl Power?
23:23 <lankhmar> yep :)
23:23 <Olivebirdy> I like how happily the artist draws people.
23:23 <lankhmar> good humour, lovely colours
23:23 <lankhmar> very interesting art style
23:24 <Olivebirdy> It's like, 'yay, imma draw people without shirts! And I will enjoy it, too!'
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23:24 <Olivebirdy> It's nice to see someone having fun.
23:24 <lankhmar> I think somone mentioned they were dissapointed the comic was taking the creater away from smut
23:24 <O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
23:24 <lankhmar> could be thinking of someone else though :P
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23:25 <Olivebirdy> That was Jenthulhu.
23:25 <JENTHULHU> mmmmmmm?
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23:25 <JENTHULHU> yes
23:25 <JENTHULHU> they had entertaining smut
23:25 <Olivebirdy> I checked out the smut, didn't find anything very interesting to me.
23:25 <Olivebirdy> I was hoping for Anvil smut...
23:25 <Olivebirdy> :p
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23:26 <lankhmar> hahaha
23:26 <Olivebirdy> Hmm, who else do I like to see... Xkcd used to be really funny.
23:26 <Olivebirdy> But then it just wasn't anymore.
23:26 <lankhmar> still has some very interesting comics though
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23:30 <lankhmar> Tbh most of the ones I follow are a bit hard to recommend because they're short <400 pages or so, or are a bit lacking somewhere in art/story/quality
23:31 <lankhmar> Oh actually this is very good http://www.fantasycomic.com/index.php?p=c1
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23:53 <Narf> Wildbow.
23:54 <•Wildbow> Yes?
23:54 <Narf> Do you realize that the only reason people were being so stupid is because you couldn't bring yourself to handle them?
23:54 <Narf> You don't like Lumi, but you didn't tell her to calm down and stop offending people.
23:54 <•Wildbow> It's not my responsibility to handle DLPers
23:54 <Narf> You ignored the problem and stayed in #weaversdice
23:55 <Narf> And didn't communicate in here.
23:55 <Narf> I'm not talking about DLPers.
23:55 <•Wildbow> Oh
23:55 <•Wildbow> DLPers were an issue though
23:55 <Narf> I'm talking about your rampant followers.
23:55 <Narf> I'm not denying that at all.
23:55 <•Wildbow> Ok
23:55 <•Wildbow> Don't sweat it, narf.
23:55 <•Wildbow> We're working on getting out of your hair
23:56 <•Wildbow> Sorry for the inconvenience
23:56 <•Wildbow> You're right, I've been preoccupied, and it's a large population to handle, I did make mistakes on that front
23:56 <•Wildbow> I hope there are no hard feelings in the long-term.
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00:09 <Jon> Morning.
00:09 <•Glernaj> morning Jon
00:09 <Ched> Hello errybody
00:10 <howl_> Who wanted comics?
00:10 <Jon> Deadpool or nuffin'.
00:10 <tubes> speaking of comics
00:10 <tubes> is secret wars any good
00:10 <tubes> thought about reading it
00:10 <tubes> or will it just make me mad
00:10 <•Teruzi> it was eh
00:10 <•Teruzi> very eh
00:10 <•Teruzi> if you like hank pym or the was
00:10 <•Teruzi> p
00:10 <howl_> http://www.qwantz.com/index.php http://sssscomic.com/ http://www.smbc-comics.com/
00:11 <•Teruzi> it will be painful
00:11 <tubes> i don't like them
00:11 <howl_> I think Olive and Lankh were discussing.
00:11 <tubes> but they have been getting butchered for like
00:11 <•Teruzi> oh man, smbc 10/10
00:11 <tubes> 10 years now
00:11 <•Teruzi> one of my facorite ones
00:11 <•Teruzi> do you like the thunderbolts?
00:11 <•Teruzi> they had a cool thing for the secret wars
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00:12 <howl_> oh http://drmcninja.com/ ofc
00:13 <apoc> Teruzi> it will be painful
00:13 <apoc> For you.
00:14 <•Teruzi> like I said, it's only painful if you like some characters
00:14 <•Glernaj> Ah, Dr. McNinja
00:14 <apoc> Thunerbolts are awesome though
00:14 <•Glernaj> wait, was someone looking for webcomics to read or something?
00:15 <•Teruzi> yes they are
00:15 <•Glernaj> who is?
00:15 <•Glernaj> Is it Tuzi?
00:15 <•Teruzi> (it isn'y)
00:15 <•Teruzi> *isn't
00:15 <•Teruzi> we're just talking about it
00:15 <•Glernaj> Also, I am gravely dissapointed at howl_'s failure to link oglaf
00:15 <•Teruzi> anyways, the dark reign run of the Thunderbolts is my favorite thing of that part of marvel
00:15 <•Teruzi> oglaf is da bomb
00:16 <howl_> It's in my daily check folder, but I don't tend to link it.
00:16 <•Glernaj> pfft
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00:16 <Narf> did you need something, Yewnyx?
00:16 <Jon> Well that was weird.
00:16 <howl_> It's not everyone's cup of mysterious fluid.
00:16 <Jon> What were we talking about?
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00:17 <•Glernaj> apparently webcomics now
00:17 <Pink> http://maze.icomix.com/
00:17 <•Glernaj> howl, darths and droids?
00:17 — howl shakes head, confused.
00:18 <Yewnyx> Narf: was just checking if you were ircop.
00:18 <Yewnyx> Wasn't sure
00:18 <tubes> Teruzi: i haven't really read any mainline series in a while
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00:19 <tubes> last big 2 thing i read was like, half of civil war
00:19 <tubes> no wait
00:19 <tubes> i was the question
00:19 <tubes> the "good" run
00:19 <•Teruzi> civil war, ech
00:19 <•Teruzi> so bad
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00:19 <tubes> yeah got bored like halfway through
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00:21 <tubes> Teruzi: so anyway, secret wars y/n
00:21 <•Teruzi> y
00:21 <•Teruzi> if you download it
00:21 <tubes> i saw a couple of panels from "renew your vows" so i was like hmmmmm
00:21 <•Teruzi> n if you buy it
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00:21 <tubes> oh yeah obviously i'm not going to pay for it
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00:21 <tubes> marvel has some of the biggest hacks in existence writing now
00:22 <tubes> and dc is still a clusterfuck from the last reboot
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00:22 <tubes> anyway
00:24 <•Teruzi> I don't think I've read anything good from the new 52
00:24 <•Teruzi> a bloody waste
00:25 <Jon> http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111209791/4760654-6325113101-secre.jpg <- all that needs to be said.
00:25 <Jon> !
00:26 <tubes> isn't there a one alternate-universe one where the celestials return to destroy the earth
00:26 <tubes> and doom is the last man standing
00:26 <Jon> I think so.
00:27 <Jon> I remember someone mentioning at some point that doom is like the last hero or something
00:27 <Jon> Lemme check.
00:27 <tubes> i saw the page once and couldn't find it again
00:29 <Jon> So, cards on the table.
00:29 <tubes> ?
00:29 <Jon> Were you guys even gonna say thank you for hosting you, or just leave without a word? Lol.
00:29 <Jon> I get Xiph and Narf were dicks, but seriously.
00:29 <Jon> Bit rude.
00:29 <•Wildbow> I was going to say so when things were further along, but atm, just making sure things are working right and starting to point people in the right direction.
00:30 <•Wildbow> Sorta preoccupied.
00:30 <Jon> I see.
00:30 <Jon> I believe that's called hedging your bets.
00:30 <Shem_Phone> Thank you, Jon!
00:30 <•Wildbow> No, it's called just having only so much time, with other things to focus on.
00:30 <Jon> You're welcome Shem. Sorry about the last week or two of turbulence. :) Hope you weren't impacted personally.
00:30 <Jon> Fair enough Wildbow, if thats how you see it.
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00:31 <•Wildbow> And this isn't so much about anyone being problematic or rules or anything
00:32 <Jon> It was more of a courtesy thing. Personally I understand if Xiph and Narf and co. were causing you issues.
00:34 <Gundor> wouldn't have been my place to utter such a thank you on behalf of the group, but I do appreciate DLP
00:35 <Yewnyx> Same
00:35 <Yewnyx> And your discourtesy is imagined -  We only finished testing the server hours ago. And it's still being developed.
00:37 <Roarian> take advantage and make it so anyone joining gets a randomly assigned superpower from the local omnipotent space parasite
00:37 <Roarian> also known as the mod
00:37 <Roarian> ;p
00:37 <•Teruzi> ha ha
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00:38 <Jon> Yewnyx: Lol, doesn't take that much effort to setup an irc server and 'test' it. However, I can accept that reasoning if its the first time you guys have had to deal with one on a technical level. Still doesn't absolve.
00:39 <Jon> Funny story actually.
00:39 <Jon> DLP originally was hosted on another server by some other people, before we got our own up and running.
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00:39 <•Wildbow> It's the natural progression of things, Jon
00:39 <Ridtired> Hey guys and gals
00:39 <•Teruzi> most certainly gonna leave without saying thank you, Jon. DLP has been a fucking cool.
00:39 <Jon> cool?
00:39 <•Wildbow> You might've misworded that, Tuzi
00:40 <Jon> a fucking cool?
00:40 <•Teruzi> oh oops
00:40 <•Teruzi> has been fucking cool
00:40 <•Wildbow> *not gonna leave
00:40 <•Teruzi> but as things stand, more and more people have been coming to parahumans
00:40 <Jon> I believe something got lost in translation.
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00:40 <•Teruzi> yes, apologies
00:40 <Jon> No dramas.
00:40 <•Wildbow> Yeah.  As I said in #Darklordpotter....  Just to clear up misconceptions though - this isn't about any individuals or rule changes.  It's more about the fact that we've grown to the size we have and we're still really in your backyard.  It just feels like it makes more sense, and as a professional writer I like the legitimacy of having a separate server instead of pitching tent in yours.
00:40 <Gundor> Teruzi, lern inglesk
00:40 <•Teruzi> >_>
00:40 <•Teruzi> kill me
00:41 <Jon> There seems to be a misunderstanding here.
00:41 <Ridtired> Hm, what'd I miss?
00:41 <•Teruzi> anyways, what Piggie said. Some of the people here have been derps. And you shouldn't be dealing with that.
00:41 <Jon> It's completely natural to want your own server and we in no way would impede you in your efforts to get one up and running yourself.
00:41 <•Wildbow> Appreciated, Jon.  You've been a cool guy.
00:41 <Jon> The issue is that you were underhanded about it, either intentionally and unintentionally.
00:41 <Jon> Apparently the server is being spread via PMs.
00:42 <Jon> You haven't even set it at the channel title.
00:42 <•Teruzi> it's at #WeaversDice
00:42 <•Teruzi> on the topic
00:42 <Jon> I'm sure you can see why it comes across as being deceitful.
00:42 <Jon> The fact that when I brought it up you defended yourself rather than taking the time to say anything positive is also baffling.
00:42 <•Wildbow> ?
00:43 <Pink> ...
00:43 <Pink> ahahahahaha.
00:45 <Jon> I take it back.
00:45 <Jon> Sorry, Wildbow.
00:45 <•Wildbow> Really truly, we just got the server up and running a short time ago.  We've been talking about it openly and pointing people over there if they're curious, but we're still loading up tools and getting the very preliminary stuff sorted out.  I'm not too familiar with IRC and I'm having to read up on stuff to just get channels and ops stuff set up right, while taking care of sick dogs.  No...
00:45 <•Wildbow> ...slight or subterfuge was intended.
00:45 <Jon> I was focusing on here rather than the DLP channel.
00:45 <Jon> Wasn't aware you were messaging in there.
00:45 <Gundor> /topicappend irc://irc.parahumans.net/parahumans
00:46 <Gundor> perhaps?
00:46 •Glernaj set the topic: New parahumans IRC @ irc.parahumans.net
00:46 <•Glernaj> Bam
00:46 <•Teruzi> *swoons*
00:47 •Wildbow set the topic: We're in the process of migrating over to a new server: irc://irc.parahumans.net/parahumans // Join us over there as you're able // Thank you to DLP!
00:47 <•Teruzi> I do love a man that's decisive
00:48 <•Wildbow> I said my bit to DLP, thank you for the prod, Jon.  I tend to overfocus on stuff, especially when people are involved.  If you wanted to mention it or let people know as they asked, that would be handy.
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00:49 <Jon> All good Wildbow. Sorry about the confrontation. It was me or someone worse, you understand.
00:49 <•Wildbow> If it's alright I'll stick around for a bit as we carry out the migration, to make sure you aren't pestered by lost newbies & the people who only check in periodically.  I'll be available for any questions if anything comes up.
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00:58 <Jon> The decision isn't up to me solely, if it was I'd be fine with it.
00:59 <Jon> Are your dogs terribly sick? I've gained new appreciation for the sheer level of concern a pet can elicit since getting my puppy at the start of the year. I have nights where I wake up panicking that she's been hurt. o_o;.
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01:02 <•Wildbow> Not terribly.  I removed burrs from one dog's ear the other night, and used olive oil to get the burrs out.
01:03 <•Wildbow> It was super late by the time I finished, so I gave her a quick wash and left it, found more burrs in the armpit yesterday, used more olive oil to help comb them out, but I think the dogs licked at the olive oil and made themselves sick
01:03 <•Wildbow> So I had a small mess to clean up earlier
01:03 <•Wildbow> Then took them for a walk, with one dog being very sluggish/uncooperative
01:03 <•Teruzi> (read: drunk)
01:03 <•Wildbow> I don't think olive oil makes you drunk
01:03 <•Wildbow> 99% sure
01:03 <Jon> They big dogs or small?
01:03 <•Wildbow> Golden doodle & cocker spaniel.
01:03 <•Wildbow> Medium-large and small, respectively
01:03 <Jon> That 1% involve italian food.
01:04 <Jon> That sucks man. :(
01:04 <Jon> I have a mini foxy/chihuahua cross.
01:04 <Jon> She's normally fine except she throws up anytime she's in the car.
01:04 <•Wildbow> Big one is a rescue from a puppy mill.  She's always had a super sensitive stomach.
01:05 <•Wildbow> Like, give her a bone and she'll basically expel her stomach contents over wall, floor, and ceiling a few hours later.
01:05 <Jon> The first few times we took her to the vet she threw up as we got there. Made for a super panicky moment.
01:05 <Jon> Ah damn.
01:05 <Jon> Whats her usual food?
01:05 <Jon> Can she eat carrot?
01:05 <•Wildbow> Just regular dog food.
01:05 <•Wildbow> With no treats or other food, ever.
01:05 <•Wildbow> They're my aunt's dog.  But since my schedule is flexible, I often dogsit
01:06 <•Wildbow> This year it's been two different three-four week stints.  Which is wearing on me just a little.
01:06 <Jon> That would.. yeah.
01:06 <Jon> Especially if they require a lot of care.
01:06 <•Wildbow> It's when the big one gets sick and it's a 1-2 hour cleanup that's brutal
01:06 <Jon> I'll be back in half an hour. o/
01:06 <•Wildbow> Pretty sure it was the little one today
01:06 <•Wildbow> Later, Jon
01:09 •Clarvel set the topic: We're in the process of migrating over to a new server:  irc.parahumans.net  channel:  #parahumans ||  Join us over there as you're able || Thank you to DLP!
01:09 <•Clarvel> there, now it makes better sense
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01:12 <•Wildbow> Sure
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01:20 <keyonte0> I love nurses.
01:20 <keyonte0> "Have you tried Tylenol"
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01:21 <•Wildbow> What's wrong, Keyster?
01:21 <keyonte0> "Yes, and it didn't work"
01:21 <keyonte0> "Well we're gonna give you some Tylenol"
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01:22 <Nadaesque> Yeah.  Sometimes you think people have been replaced with really crappy flowcharts and it's not all that helpful.
01:22 <keyonte0> My mom has an issue with countless hospitals repeatedly attempting to give her shit she explicitly said she was allergic to.
01:22 <Nadaesque> "More Tylenol.  They can do liver transplants now."
01:23 <Nadaesque> keyonte0: "They" (the nebulous they) are working on ways to integrate that kind of information into patient recommendations, but it's been slow.
01:27 <keyonte0> It seems that the common MO among ER doctors and nurses is the opposite of customer service.
01:27 <keyonte0> "The patient is always wrong"
01:27 <•Glernaj> To be fair, that's my stance on customer service too
01:28 <•Glernaj> Also, generally, going into an ER and saying "I'm allergic to [common painkiller]" is a trademark phrase used by junkies looking to score opioids.
01:28 <keyonte0> Also a more extreme version of Occam's Razor.
01:29 <keyonte0> "The most simplest answer is always the correct one"
01:29 <keyonte0> the simplest*
01:30 <•Glernaj> eh, in triage situations at an ER, it's usually more "the simplest answer usually won't kill the patient, and dear god we have HOW MANY people in the waiting room right now, and oh fuck EMS is bringing in a trauma code"
01:31 <keyonte0> Most likely the most common reason doctors misdiagnose. Take a brief glance over the symptoms and give a diagnosis solely based on what the most statistically probably cause is.
01:31 <•Glernaj> Well, there's that, and there's also the fact that it might be something completely outside of their specialty
01:32 <Nadaesque> It's a pain^H^H^H^Hgreat difficulty finding a doctor who write sufficiently strong scripts.  The palliative care types are looking towards cancer, etc.
01:33 <•Glernaj> Well, does her PCP not provide her with "in case of debilitation, break glass" pain pills?
01:34 <keyonte0> Also giving completely wrong scripts based on a completely wrong diagnosis.
01:34 — Nadaesque clutches the Orange Power Battery ^H^H^H^H^H amber pill bottle to his chest. "MINE!"
01:35 <keyonte0> Medical error is a very common cause of death in the US, I'd like to note.
01:35 <Nadaesque> Iatrogenic booboos, yuss.
01:37 <keyonte0> I can think of more than 5 family members off the top of my head who are either dead thanks to or suffered serious consequences thanks to a misdiagnosed ailment.
01:37 <howl> darths and droids is amaaazing
01:37 <keyonte0> Or malpractice.
01:38 <howl> sorry for butting in without reading.
01:38 <keyonte0> I'm pretty sure everyone in this chat does it.
01:39 <keyonte0> Hell I do it OFTEN.
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01:40 <keyonte0> Actually, I'm googling it a bit, and I've seen like 3 pages list medical error as the 3rd leading cause of death in the US.
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01:44 <ErrantVagrant> Heya Nuhuh
01:44 <Nadaesque> I think the fifth leading cause is regular use of Questionable Content.
01:44 <Nuhuh> Errant o/
01:44 <Nuhuh> and all
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01:47 <Nuhuh> Hmm a new channel
01:47 <Nuhuh> Is that where all the hip kids are going?
01:48 <•Glernaj> new channel on a new server
01:51 <Nadaesque> I'll probably be left behind.  Picked last for the team.  Okay.jpg.
01:53 <•Glernaj> hm?
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01:53 <•Glernaj> the info is right there in the channel topic
01:53 <•Glernaj> do you not know how to switch servers?
01:54 <Nadaesque> I do.  I'm just being goofy.
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02:02 <Nuhuh> Hmm, well I just started showing up here and you all are leaving?! Anyway, good luck to whoever moves. I'm sure this channel will continue, there are quite a few of us at DLP who read worm and worm fanfic.
02:02 <•Wildbow> Thanks for having us, Nuh.
02:03 <•Wildbow> I'm sure a number will hang around, if they're welcome.
02:03 <ErrantVagrant> Yar, thar be cool people here.
02:03 <Nuhuh> Hey man, I just had arranged for a Worm section on DLP, so you and anyone is welcome to stay.
02:04 <•Clarvel> you can come with us huh
02:04 <•Clarvel> nuh
02:05 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, and somehow someone got Ritic to post on it.  I am impressed.
02:05 <Nuhuh> Thanks Clarvel
02:05 <Nuhuh> I will stop by when the transition is over.
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02:12 <Nuhuh> ErrantVagrant: Ritic? Do they not post usually?
02:14 <ErrantVagrant> Hahaha, to say that Ritic has social anxiety would be an understatement.
02:15 <Nuhuh> oh lord
02:15 <Nuhuh> someone should've mentioned it
02:15 <Nuhuh> might have to white knight
02:15 <ErrantVagrant> Just...  give it time.
02:15 <ErrantVagrant> I'm proud of him for it, seriously.
02:15 <Nuhuh> ErrantVagrant: what thread? So I can keep watch.
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02:16 <Nuhuh> haha ok. I know DLP can be critical, but if you get over the initial bump, it can be very helpful as well.
02:17 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, he signed up because there was a post that could be seen as ripping that he took as "OH SHIT SON, that's where I need to improve on my work!"
02:17 <Nuhuh> ah cool, great attitude.
02:18 <ErrantVagrant> He apparently messaged the guy to thank him, and the guy asked him to post a rebuttal.
02:19 <ErrantVagrant> Getting him to post in an open forum is pretty tricky these days, so really, I'm very pleased by it.  I can't even get him to post on IRC, and him getting a Reddit account is right out.
02:20 <Nuhuh> haha, well, baby steps then, DLP today, Tomorrow, and day after Reddit
02:21 <Jon> That's one of the things I love about DLP. If someone comes to DLP genuinely wanting to improve then it's welcoming.
02:21 <Jon> If someone comes looking to argue or fight about things then they get what they want as well.
02:21 <Jon> xD
02:21 <Nuhuh> True enough. Haha.
02:21 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, seems pretty cool like that.
02:21 <Jon> I've seen long time members getting shat on because they picked on someone who had come looking for help/advice.
02:22 <Nuhuh> ^
02:22 <Nuhuh> Work By Author section is practically hallowed ground as far as that attitude goes. It's presumed you're there to get help
02:24 <JENTHULHU> mmm
02:24 <Jon> Some days I want to make a new account and posts stories under it so people would critique me more. ;_;
02:25 <•Glernaj> That would require you to actually continue a story though Jon :P
02:25 <Jon> Psh.
02:25 — JENTHULHU offers Jon some Pemmican
02:25 <Jon> Not my fault that people can't engage with with critique which leads to stories being dropped.
02:26 <Jon> I have no idea what that is Jen, lol. But thanks all the same. <3
02:26 <Jon> Glernaj did you see the review happy g left me?
02:26 <•Glernaj> mmm, type of trail food
02:26 <Jon> Narf legit fell in love.
02:26 <•Glernaj> now I didn't
02:26 <Jon> It was glorious
02:27 <apoc> it was also a shitty review >.>
02:27 <Jon> https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?p=856272
02:28 <Jon> This and onward.
02:28 <Jon> I don't disagree with her on that line tbh, it reads badly.
02:28 <Jon> Turns out that she was actually handicapped and she lost her collective shit.
02:29 <•Glernaj> I'm super amused that she couldn't even name the sarlacc correctly
02:29 <ErrantVagrant> Heading out for now.  Need foods and sleeps.
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02:29 <apoc> "the entire story is in past tense"
02:29 <apoc> <.<
02:30 <Jon> tbh she's technically right.
02:30 <Jon> I should go post modern and use future tense.
02:30 <Pink> The internet is a bad place to go for polite and useful reviews of creative works.
02:30 <Jon> that's what DLP is for.
02:30 <Jon> Well
02:30 <Jon> Useful
02:30 <Jon> Not so much polite.
02:31 <apoc> Yes but Jon, her review was neither useful nor polite
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02:31 <Jon> That was the issue, yeah.
02:31 <apoc> Sree just loves her because of the sass
02:31 <Jon> And in her follow up where she spent like 1k+ words 'reviewing' me.
02:31 <Jon> it covered like 2 paragraphs.
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02:31 <apoc> and specifically, that she sassed you, if she'd done that to him he would've probably banned her
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02:32 <Jon> Sree loves everyone who hates me.
02:32 <Nuhuh> she was handicapped?
02:32 <Jon> Uh
02:32 <Nuhuh> I feel awful now
02:32 <Jon> Dont read the rest of the thread.
02:32 <•Glernaj> nah nuhuh
02:32 <•Glernaj> not mentally
02:32 <Jon> Shit goes DLPs distinct flavour of abusive, rofl.
02:32 <Nuhuh> oh
02:32 <•Glernaj> car accident it says
02:33 <Jon> Xiph is right in his element.
02:33 <Nuhuh> loool
02:33 <Nuhuh> now I have to read
02:33 <JENTHULHU> onwords to new pastures it seems
02:33 <JENTHULHU> er
02:33 <JENTHULHU> onwards
02:33 <•Glernaj> so wheelchair, not mental
02:33 <JENTHULHU> cya
02:33 <Jon> Later.
02:33 <Nuhuh> later
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02:33 <apoc> tenages counter review was pretty top kek
02:34 <Jon> Uh, back to the original point.
02:34 <Jon> Which was something about a worm writer.
02:34 <Jon> ^_^;.
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02:35 <Nuhuh> Rittic the Brave
02:35 <Jon> Rittic the Noble.
02:36 <Nuhuh> I have to see where he posted
02:36 <apoc> still wish I'd gotten more of a response on my Worm thread
02:36 <apoc> Thinker6 chipping in was good, but I don't want people who just agree with my point to varying degrees of intensity
02:37 <apoc> and no one except Panda said anything when I brought it up here
02:38 <Nuhuh> link apoc
02:38 <apoc> https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=30389
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03:19 <•Wildbow> To the unaware, we're in the process of moving ourselves to another server.  See the topic.
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05:37 <Ryuugi> https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/19192482/
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06:23 <Ereus> hey all hey bow
06:24 <•Wildbow> Hi Ereus
06:24 <•Wildbow> Take note of the topic.
06:24 <•Wildbow> We're migratin'
06:25 <Ereus> can i get a link?
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06:26 <Ereus> im trying to find it
06:26 <•Wildbow> See the topic
06:26 <•Wildbow> Type /topic to see it
06:26 <Ereus> how do i find the channel i mean bow
06:26 <•Wildbow> Once you're on the server, type /join #Parahumans
06:27 <Ereus> and how do i find the server?
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06:28 <Ereus> sorry to bother you bow
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06:30 <•Wildbow> Type /server irc.parahumans.net
06:30 <•Clarvel> hes gone bow
06:30 <•Wildbow> Ah
06:30 <•Wildbow> D'oh
06:31 <•Clarvel> but srsly, he got on here okay, migrating shouldnt be hard
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06:32 <agdag> really?
06:32 <agdag> also whats the port?
06:33 <agdag> number
06:33 <•Clarvel> 6667
06:33 <agdag> who banned me?
06:33 <jelly> Default
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06:33 <•Clarvel> u were banned?
06:33 <•Clarvel> reason?
06:33 <•Clarvel> date?
06:34 <agdag> no im Ereus why was ereus banned
06:34 <•Wildbow> He wasn't
06:34 agdag → Ereus
06:34 <Ereus> it said i was
06:35 <Jon> it's because you're australian.
06:35 <Jon> !
06:36 <Ereus> really? you banned me?
06:36 <Ched> *facepalm*
06:36 <Jon> How would I do that?
06:37 <Jon> You're here talking to me.
06:37 <Ereus> nvm
06:37 <Ched> This talk of Australian makes me want toast.
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06:38 <Ched> Cuz I had this Aussie roommate once, who put that marmite shite on all the toast.
06:38 <Ched> Mmmm, toast.
06:38 <Ched> :D
06:38 <Jon> That was weird.
06:38 <Jon> you mean vegemite?
06:38 <Jon> marmite is a uk thing isn't it?
06:39 <Ched> Vegemite then, maybe I got it confused. There was one that she deemed not good enough
06:39 <Ched> so probably didn't use the marmite but loved the vegemite then
06:39 <Jon> personally prefer promite.
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06:49 <Yewnyx> Nae: why not stay?
06:49 <•Nae> DLP is my home <3
06:50 <•Nae> I do hope you stick around in #prog here as well though Yewnyx :)
06:50 <•Clarvel> aww, nae
06:50 <•Clarvel> it's just another server connection
06:50 <•Nae> If only. We differ ideologically. :p
06:51 <•Nae> I tried to resist!!
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06:52 <Stumble> Hey someone told me this channel is on another server now?
06:52 <•Nae> see topic Stumble
06:52 <Stumble> Ah thank you
06:52 <Ched> Eh, Nae, if you use mIRC or something you could be at both DLP and their new place at the same time
06:52 <•Nae> I know
06:53 <•Nae> I also am always on Freenode
06:53 <Ched> I used to hang out in another IRC channel for writing but they got pissy and told me not to sit in it if I was ever gonna be AFK
06:53 <Ched> so XD
06:53 <•Nae> wait did they?
06:53 <•Nae> lol
06:53 <•Nae> IRC idling isn't uncommon
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06:53 <•Nae> if anything, it's the norm
06:53 <Yewnyx> Ched: nae is a mac user using Textual
06:53 — Yewnyx uses Textual as well, bounced through ZNC
06:53 <Ched> yeah, Nae, lol.
06:53 <•Wildbow> I'm in another writing chat and one or two members are sorta sensitive about sharing their writing when there are silent eyes watching.
06:53 — •Nae also uses znc
06:54 <Ched> Mhm, Wildbow, but in my case that wasn't it. No one shared writing in that IRC. But that would be a good point.
06:54 <•Wildbow> Was it more about the process of writing?
06:54 <Ched> I'd DC about once a day and reconnect, and they'd say "hello" but I wouldn't be there
06:54 <•Wildbow> Or just a hangout?
06:54 <Ched> and that drove them up the wall
06:54 <Ched> Just a hangout
06:54 <•Mishie> ha
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06:55 <Ched> They got passive aggressive about it too, which just sort of turned me off them :P
06:55 <Ched> heheh
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07:14 <Jon> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/burger-kings-halloween-black-whopper-is-causing-peoples-stools-to-turn-bright-green/story-fnq2oad4-1227560529418
07:15 <•Nae> ...
07:15 <Jon> They arent available in australia
07:16 <Jon> ;_
07:16 <•Nae> you want green poop Jon?
07:17 <Jon> Yes. Absolutely.
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07:17 <Jon> If I could, I would choose to poop the rainbow.
07:17 <•Nae> A reasonable request.
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07:17 <Jon> Would you not?
07:17 <•Nae> Green isn't really my colour...
07:17 <•Nae> mayhaps
07:17 <•Nae> blue
07:18 <Thalia> Next time it should be red poop. Really scare some people.
07:18 <•Nae> Red poop would scare the shit out of me
07:18 <Thalia> Exactly.
07:18 <•Wildbow> Haha
07:20 <•Nae> purple
07:20 <Yewnyx> I have had neon orange poop before.
07:20 <yak> Jon: They arent available in australia <-- this is an outrage
07:20 <yak> We're always getting shat on
07:20 <yak> Why can't we do the shitting?
07:20 <•Nae> just regular colour shit
07:20 <Yewnyx> I had some beef and it was like 50% beef 50% really really spicy stuff poured on top
07:20 <yak> Green. Poop.
07:21 <•Nae> XD
07:21 <•Mishie> yak: The Dream
07:21 <•Nae> "neon orange"
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07:28 <Yewnyx> well
07:28 <Yewnyx> off i go.
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08:00 <yak> https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=30588
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08:46 <Vereorskool> Clarvel: or mishie
08:46 <•Clarvel> ?
08:46 <•Mishie> wat
08:46 <Vereorskool> https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.parahumans.net/?nick=Para-Guest|?&theme=cli#parahumans,#weaverdice throw that link into the topic maybe?
08:46 <•Mishie> wat?
08:46 <Vereorskool> So newbies who don't know shit about irc can use it
08:46 <•Clarvel> why
08:46 <•Clarvel> how would irc newbs even get here
08:47 <Vereorskool> I had to help luna and Lacks already
08:47 <•Clarvel> in the first place
08:47 <Vereorskool> Reddit sidebar
08:47 <•Mishie> so many questions
08:47 <Vereorskool> Wilbur didn't update it yet
08:47 <Vereorskool> And even regulars don't know about irc sometimes
08:47 <Vereorskool> Like lacks and Luna
08:47 <Vereorskool> Had to help them yesterday
08:47 <•Wildbow> I'm bad with reddit CSS
08:48 <Vereorskool> Ask Yewnyx, wildbo, he used to be a reddit admin
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08:49 <Vereorskool> It's a direct link to the channel, for people who don't use proper clients
08:49 <Vereorskool> What's so bad about it? :V
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08:50 <•Wildbow> Added sidebar link
08:50 <panth> o_O
08:50 <panth> Hey 'Bow
08:50 <panth> I started a Let's Read of Twig last night
08:51 <•Wildbow> Oh?
08:51 <panth> It's only got one chapter done in it so far though
08:51 <•Wildbow> Link?
08:51 <panth> https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/lets-read-twig-no-spoilers-please.22898/
08:51 — •Wildbow give Panth a Wildbow Coin.
08:51 <•Wildbow> *gives
08:52 — panth bronzes and frames it in place of honour on the wall
08:52 <Vereorskool> Gg panth
08:52 <Vereorskool> Gg
08:52 — panth plots to one day get Blake Hannon MSPaint Art too, just like the Let's Read Worm thread
08:52 <panth> Ohey Vern
08:52 <Vereorskool> Also panth
08:52 <panth> >_> Elara gets some credit too for nagging at me!
08:52 <Vereorskool> Congratulations on your increased word count
08:53 <Vereorskool> In your quest
08:53 <panth> I didn't know you'd been reading it o///o
08:53 <Vereorskool> :v
08:55 <panth> What d'you think of the writing?
08:55 <panth> (Such as it is anyway)
08:56 <Vereorskool> Eh, it's good enough :p
08:56 <panth> >_>
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09:01 — Vereorskool will camp here to tell every irc inept person the way
09:01 <Vereorskool> Call me prophet
09:02 <Vereorskool> For i guide the way
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09:04 <panth> Will #weaversdice be migrating too, d'you think?
09:04 <Jon> So...
09:04 <Jon> 7:31 PM <~Wildbow> But above all else, I don't like being on a server where I don't have control over the community.  There were DLP people being asshats to my people and not communicating about bans and kicks.
09:05 <panth> But he'll still be (at least) room op, if not /global/ op?
09:05 <Jon> ?
09:05 <Nae`cloud> Like I said
09:05 <Jon> Oh don't worry.
09:06 <Jon> They've setup their own server
09:06 <Jon> Link in the description.
09:06 <Jon> Has everything they were doing here, just less of the lying through teeth bit.
09:06 <Nae`cloud> Wants a personal fiefdom
09:06 <panth> ...the "lying through teeth" bit sounds reeeeeally bad tho
09:07 <•Wildbow> Jon, were you there when Xiph popped his head in the other night?
09:07 <Jon> Unfortunately it's accurate.
09:07 <panth> Even though I have like zero context on that.
09:07 <Jon> What boggles my mind.
09:07 <Jon> man, I'm just over it, lol.
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09:07 <Jon> I'm sick of adovating for you guys and then this shit popping up.
09:07 <•Wildbow> Jon, were you there when Xiph popped his head in the other night?
09:08 <Jon> No.
09:08 <Jon> Quite frankly if it was an issue you should have brought it up as one.
09:08 <Jon> Like a normal person would.
09:08 <Jon> 'hey person x did y, can you do something about that?'
09:08 — Jon shakes his head.
09:08 <Jon> If you aren't going to be upfront about stuff, how can you expect it to be handled? boggles my mind.
09:08 — panth doesn't get it.
09:09 <Roarian2> man, people can get so irritable
09:09 <•Wildbow> How am I supposed to get it handled when the people in charge are the people who are causing the problems?
09:09 <Jon> Xiph is literally one person
09:09 <Jon> Not even at the top of the list.
09:09 <•Wildbow> I thought he was?
09:09 <panth> I'm assuming Xiph appeared, took issue with somebody, and banned them at once without explanation or something, but said it was something else? Whoever he is
09:09 <Jon> No.
09:09 <Jon> Jesus christ.
09:09 — •Wildbow scratches his head
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09:09 <•Wildbow> I was led to believe he was.
09:09 <Jon> If you even tried to communicate about this shit it would have been sorted.
09:09 <•Wildbow> I did very early on
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09:10 <•Wildbow> But the attitude was 'you can't do anything about [individual], they're a supermod
09:10 <Jon> Raven is the top authority.
09:10 <•Wildbow> So I just put up with it and shut up
09:10 <Jon> He is the person who said you were allowed here.
09:10 <•Wildbow> Because this is your playground and I didn't want to rock the boat
09:10 <•Mishie> [18:06]	Wildbow	Jon, were you there when Xiph popped his head in the other night?
09:10 <•Mishie> question
09:10 <Jon> If you pointed out what Xiph was doing he would have been reprimanded harshly.
09:10 <•Mishie> you mean when he came in
09:10 <•Mishie> to talk
09:10 <Vereorskool> Zombie said so, Narf behaved so, LuckyLee did shit as well
09:10 <•Mishie> and from what I saw was polite the entire time
09:10 <WalkingDisaster> Raven is the one you go to when this stuff happens. I had to do it once, when I had an issue with a member of the staff. He's very professional about it.
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09:11 <Vereorskool> I did say go to Raven about it at the start
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09:11 <Nae`cloud> And you guys didn't think to pop over in main
09:11 <•Wildbow> I mean when he stuck his head into Weaverdice and was like, "Wow, the people in that room are even more immature than the people in parahumans.  So creepy."
09:11 <Vereorskool> Nobody listens to Vern
09:11 <Jon> The other day someone asked who was in charge
09:11 <Jon> I told them Raven.
09:11 <WalkingDisaster> Zombie and Luckylee are trolls of the highest order. Literally not worth pouring  water on if they were burning.
09:11 <apoc> Xiph0 wasn't even doing anything, aside from when Jen tried to crusade against him
09:11 <Nae`cloud> And figure out who actually runs dlp
09:11 <WalkingDisaster> Well, zombie is alright.
09:11 <•Wildbow> Zombie seems ok
09:12 <•Mishie> why is WalkingDisaster in here
09:12 <•Mishie> also
09:12 <•Wildbow> I've never had a problem with Zombie
09:12 <WalkingDisaster> Because I wanted to see, Mishie
09:12 <Jon> At a glance
09:12 <Jon> I can see a dozen DLP members in here
09:12 <apoc> that says a lot lol
09:12 <•Mishie> when I saw luckylee here I said I was going to kick
09:12 <Jon> Who would have told you who to talk to.
09:12 <•Mishie> and only let him stay because he said he wasn't just here to troll
09:12 <•Mishie> and because it was 4am
09:12 <•Mishie> and I was about to sleep
09:12 <Nae`cloud> Mishie has been  with you guys since the beginning
09:13 <Nae`cloud> And even he is salty now
09:13 <•Mishie> I've just stopped caring
09:13 <Jon> The situation with Jen was that she tried to pull rank on Xiph or Narf
09:13 <Jon> Is that correct, as I understand it?
09:13 <Vereorskool> Yes.
09:13 <•Wildbow> She was snarky about Narf supposedly abusing his powers
09:14 <Vereorskool> You'd need to ask xiph for logs
09:14 <•Wildbow> and then snarky with Xiph
09:14 <Jon> That's like a school teacher trying to pull rank on a principal.
09:14 <•Wildbow> I don't agree with what Jen did
09:14 <Vereorskool> ^
09:14 <Jon> Fair enough.
09:14 <Jon> in that line I pasted.
09:14 <apoc> I have the logs
09:14 <Jon> There were DLP people being asshats to my people and not communicating about bans and kicks.
09:15 <Jon> I flat out came in here and explained the situation about Jen.
09:15 <Jon> I literally unbanned her.
09:15 <Jon> Which I'm NOT TECHNICALLY ALLOWED TO DO.
09:15 <Nae`cloud> Bye, I remember being threatened by bans in wd as well
09:15 <Nae`cloud> Btw
09:15 <Jon> Because we don't tread on each others feet.
09:15 <•Wildbow> But the chafing there and the awkwardness and just the fact that I can't control my own community and keep them from bothering you guys and I was under the impression I couldn't do anything about the people bothering us guys, I just thought it was time to go.
09:15 <Jon> I removed her HOP as recompense.
09:15 <Nae`cloud> Which is why I'm never there
09:15 <Jon> You complain about us not communicating.
09:15 <Jon> But I'd like to put forth the case that you haven't been.
09:16 <•Wildbow> Fair
09:16 <Jon> if you had brought any of this up to any of the other staff
09:16 <Jon> Raven, Me, Syao, nuhuh, Minion, Sesc, Ched
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09:16 <Jon> Oz
09:16 <Jon> World
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09:16 <Jon> There are literally a dozen people you could have talked to about this.
09:16 <•Wildbow> Ok, but again, I was led to believe that I couldn't do anything.
09:16 <Jon> By who?
09:16 <Jon> Your users?
09:17 <Jon> If I had to deal with Xiph the first thing I would have asked was who was above him or what the chain of command was.
09:17 <Nae`cloud> I doubt he knows who they are, given people here have made zero effort to get to know dlp
09:17 <Jon> He is a gigantic asshole.
09:17 <Jon> He is a self confessed gigantic asshole.
09:17 <•Mishie> friendly reminder
09:17 <•Mishie> Pretty sure people said "hey, talk shit out" more than a few times
09:17 <apoc> I'm actually somewhat nostalgic now
09:17 <apoc> this is the second time I've been banned on my first day on a new server
09:17 <Jon> I've been in here for what..
09:17 <Nae`cloud> Wow
09:17 <Jon> the last four months?
09:18 <Vereorskool> Apoc: tbf, I did say all this was ridiculously hasty.
09:18 <Jon> Mishie how long have I been in here?
09:18 <Nae`cloud> Stay classy
09:18 <apoc> Nae pls, Sree banned me for lulz
09:18 <Jon> The first thing I said was that I was an ircop and if you guys needed anything to just ask.
09:18 <Vereorskool> And all of it started with the tree reminder not to spam empty channels
09:18 <Vereorskool> That'll appear on list
09:18 <Jon> I can go back in my log and copy paste if you want.
09:18 <•Mishie> uhhhhh
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09:18 <•Mishie> a while?
09:19 <Jon> [2014-07-22 15:20:49] 竊・Joined channel #parahumans
09:19 <Jon> [2014-07-22 15:20:49] * Channel mode is +ntrc
09:19 <Jon> [2014-07-22 15:20:49] * Channel timestamp is 1391678243
09:19 <Jon> Over a year.
09:20 <panth> Admittedly, in all that time I don't think I've really ever talked to you (or vice-versa), and I've been here a few months
09:20 <Jon> I didn't say I was talking.
09:20 <Jon> Just that I've been available.
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09:21 <•Wildbow> Look, I'm sorry.  I had a really shitty summer and I was honestly not paying attention to much of IRC (except to work on Weaverdice stuff) because we had an influx of newbs and I couldn't stand many of them.  I find it difficult to take action and drop the hammer on my community when I'm reliant on it for goodwill - and I've been somewhat hands off, except when I saw issues I could tackle,...
09:21 <•Wildbow> ...so it was hard to just kick people for being derps.
09:21 <panth> Mmm, yeah, I guess. At least now we know who to go to if shit happens again?
09:21 <Jon> I don't care about that tbh.
09:21 <Jon> I liked having you guys around.
09:21 <Jon> I like having varieties of people on irc.
09:21 <Jon> It makes life interesting.
09:21 <Nae`cloud> ^
09:21 <Jon> I'm not gonna grill you for your mistakes man.
09:21 <Jon> I'm not gonna sneer at you for being too nice to community manage.
09:21 <Vereorskool> Tldr
09:22 <panth> The influx of un-stand-able newbs has dried up, too XD
09:22 <Vereorskool> Jon is having a hard time saying goodbye
09:22 <Jon> Nor am I gonna berate you for trying to take the easy road.
09:22 <Jon> The hardest time, Vere.
09:22 <ched> To summarize: Sorry to see you guys go, enjoy your new server.
09:22 <Jon> I'm gonna need a hand, if you catch my drift.
09:22 ched → Ched
09:22 <Ched> but
09:22 — Vereorskool pats Jon
09:22 <Jon> Ched, be the mean one please.
09:22 <Ched> people in here always seemed pretty easy to offend, ridiculously so
09:22 <Nae`cloud> Yeah
09:22 <Nae`cloud> Exactly
09:23 <panth> Some of them have really thin skin :/
09:23 <•Wildbow> Some do.
09:23 <Nae`cloud> And coming from Ched who is super nice
09:23 <•Mishie> also
09:23 <Ched> I'm not denying that some DLP members (maybe a mod) came in here and acted like they'd normally act in a DLP main channel
09:23 <Ched> And what is considered normal/fine there isn't so here.
09:23 <•Mishie> I'm pretty sure a few of us have volunteered to play badcop for you Bow
09:23 <•Mishie> against the really bad derps
09:24 <Jon> Anyway.
09:24 <•Mishie> instead of just y'know, ignoring them and hoping the problem would go away
09:24 <Jon> Good luck with your new server. I hope you eventually realize that if no one is the bad guy, everyone becomes bad guys.
09:24 <Nae`cloud> I know I've been a dick here
09:24 — panth points out that Mish is super great at being badcop
09:24 <Jon> I hope you at least stick around on the server and chat every now and then, I enjoy talking to other writers.
09:24 <Nae`cloud> But it was never that bad tbh
09:24 <Nae`cloud> Anywho
09:24 <panth> Jon: I'm sure you'd be quite welcome over there too? o_o
09:25 <•Wildbow> I don't think you're a bad guy, Jon.  I just have had moments where I had really low tolerance for dickishness, and didn't feel I had the right/clout/ability to act against it.
09:25 <Jon> I'm not a bad guy.
09:25 <Jon> I'm a fucking balls to the walls awesome guy.
09:25 <•Wildbow> You've been really cool through this entire thing
09:25 <Jon> But like I said, sometimes you have to be the bad guy.
09:25 <•Wildbow> I do see where you're coming from
09:25 <apoc> I will say
09:25 <apoc> >didn't feel I had the right/clout/ability to act against it.
09:25 <•Wildbow> I wish I could convey where I'm coming from or draw more concrete examples
09:26 <Ched> Eh, Wildbow
09:26 <apoc> seems weird, considering the sorta-disturbing levels of worship you see in this chat
09:26 <panth> As an aside, I've never understood "balls to the walls" as a metaphor. It sounds extremely uncomfortable.
09:26 <Jon> Mm.
09:26 <Ched> Regardless of any problems, it's true that you dont' own/control this server. And apparently you have a massive-ass fanbase
09:26 <Jon> Me either tbh.
09:26 <Jon> Urban dictionary to the rescue.
09:26 <Jon> "term used by pilots. when accelerating quickly, the throttle is pushed all the way to the panel and the throttle lever (ball) actually touches the panel (wall). Hence, balls to the wall."
09:26 <•Wildbow> It's a term used by...
09:26 <•Wildbow> You beat me to it
09:26 <Ched> So it's understandable you want that full control. But if there were issues with the over-sensibilities of the folks in here versus DLP folks, most of us didn't hear about it.
09:26 <Jon> I'm the fastest man alive.
09:27 <apoc> that's some mighty quick googlin' you got there jon
09:27 <•Mishie> ;)
09:27 <Jon> At least that's what that prostitute said.
09:27 <Jon> :(
09:27 <•Wildbow> A lot of it was stuff that was hard to point to, but really had a small, cumulative effect
09:27 <apoc> Really?
09:27 <Jon> Communication is good.
09:27 <•Mishie> once again, if people aren't told of the problems
09:27 <•Wildbow> and I'll have to point to my banning of the word 'dank' in the Weaversdice channel
09:27 <•Mishie> shit wont change
09:27 <Jon> Take that as a lesson going forward.
09:27 <•Mishie> hell
09:27 <panth> ...we migrate to a new channel, and it's /still/ "weaversdice" rather than "weaverdice"
09:27 <•Mishie> using that as an example
09:28 <Ched> I think someone in the Parahumans community that the fans respected probably needed to say "Ignore the trolls, don't get so easily offended" or something. And on DLPs end we could have said "stop trolling quite so hard" if we'd known.
09:28 <•Wildbow> No it isn't.
09:28 <apoc> It felt a lot like after the "cut down the number of channels" talk, tubes, Yewnyx, and SCG sorta just took off and decided parahumans was going rogue
09:28 <•Mishie> panth: jfc you're illiterate
09:28 <•Mishie> :|
09:28 <panth> Oh wait, there's that too
09:28 <panth> There's /both/
09:28 <Jon> Anyway. Wildbow sorry for taking up so much of your writing time the past few days.
09:28 <panth> ...huh.
09:28 <•Wildbow> Nah, it's actually been reasonably well timed.
09:29 <•Wildbow> There were only a few events that came down on/immediately after writing days.
09:29 <Ched> But seriously, Wildbow, I get wanting your own place. Hope it kicks ass. I'll come join sometime if I ever get around to reading Worm :P Hopefully they won't kick me immediately for mentioning I'm from DLP. Heheh.
09:29 <•Wildbow> So no worries on that front
09:29 <•Wildbow> We'd be happy to have you, Ched.
09:29 — panth is not familiar enough with Ched to have an opinion either way
09:29 <Jon> Ched's a lovely girl.
09:29 <•Mishie> panth: #WeaversDice is where the derps go
09:30 <Ched> Hah, yeah, I'm apparently "the nice one" on DLP. And even I felt like i had to walk on eggshells in this channel b/c of how easily offended everyone seemed to be. ;)
09:30 — panth sniffs
09:30 <Ched> Well, not /everyone/, but most.
09:30 <Ched> *pats Panth* I don't know you either dear.
09:30 <Jon> Ched.
09:30 <Nae`cloud> As an aside, can I just say
09:30 <Jon> I'll be honest.
09:30 <panth> Maybe we should hang out, get a nice drink or two
09:30 <Jon> I always thought Tinn was the nice one.
09:30 <Jon> Turns out she was only nice to me.
09:30 <Nae`cloud> content creator being the one to control the community
09:30 <•Mishie> wow
09:30 <•Mishie> rip
09:30 <Nae`cloud> feels like a bad idea
09:31 <Nae`cloud> also lol
09:31 <Jon> She fucking tore other people a new one.
09:31 <Nae`cloud> ^
09:31 <Jon> Nae: tbh it's better that way.
09:31 <Nae`cloud> I've seen Tinn in action.
09:31 <Jon> If WB is in control he doesn't have to worry about a coup.
09:31 <Ched> lol, I never thought of myself as nice. But *shrug*
09:31 <Nae`cloud> You're like the nicest DLPer Ched
09:31 <Jon> You're at the nice end of the sliding DLP scale.
09:31 <Jon> You literally asked me to help design your friends book cover to help her out.
09:31 <Jon> That's nice.
09:31 <Roarian2> I am nice to basically everyone except WD
09:32 <Roarian2> ;p
09:32 <Ched> XD
09:32 <Jon> WD deserves it though.
09:32 <Roarian2> does he ever
09:32 <Nae`cloud> nobody is nice to WD
09:32 <Jon> He's.. a walking disaster.
09:32 <•Mishie> mhm
09:32 <Ched> He's alright
09:32 <apoc> Ched he really isn't
09:33 <apoc> He really, really, really isn't
09:33 <Roarian2> and yeah, ched is what passes for kind among our band of raving marauders
09:33 <Ched> *shrug* If you're serious, tell me about it in pm.
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09:33 <Elara> o/ morning
09:33 <apoc> There's only so much general idiocy one can take Ched
09:33 <panth> Elaraaaaaaa
09:33 <panth> 'Bow posted in my Let's Read thread
09:34 <panth> And you haven't
09:34 <panth> Go rectify that ;D
09:34 <Elara> ahahaha no
09:34 <Elara> so much work to do :(
09:35 <panth> You've already interviewed! You're one foot out the door as is
09:35 <panth> Work can be left to your successor!
09:35 <Elara> didn't get the job :(
09:36 <Ched> :(
09:36 <panth> D:
09:37 <panth> On the bright side, at least they told you
09:37 <Elara> they gave me feedback and everything
09:37 <panth> Ah
09:37 <Elara> I'm just sad because I wanted it
09:37 <panth> That's very nice of them
09:37 <panth> At least you know your improvement targets though
09:37 — panth pats Elara
09:38 <Vereorskool> Jon u can join the new server as well ofc
09:38 — Vereorskool isn't gonna abandon any server
09:38 <Roarian2> what let's read thread, panth?
09:38 <Nae`cloud> Vern <3
09:39 <Roarian2> I should do one of those, but then chronicle my adventures in trying to find gems among shitfic
09:39 <panth> Roarian2: I started a Let's Read Twig
09:39 <Nae`cloud> I'm hoping soul and Teruzi stick around too
09:39 <Vereorskool> Nae <3
09:39 <Roarian2> panth, I haven't even read it
09:39 <Roarian2> so
09:39 <panth> Mostly because Elara prodded me to
09:39 <Nae`cloud> also Elara
09:39 <panth> Yeah neither have I xD
09:39 <Nae`cloud> hmm, who else
09:39 <Elara> mmm Nae?
09:39 <panth> Not me apparently :<
09:40 <Nae`cloud> see channel topic Elara
09:40 <Nae`cloud> you suck panth :p
09:40 <Roarian2> tbh after worm I was kinda tired of starting another wildbow epic so I put it off
09:40 <Nae`cloud> but sure, stick around!
09:40 <Roarian2> figured I could get to it when it was done
09:40 <Elara> ah yuss, I am on there already Nae
09:40 <Roarian2> but now there's like a third story
09:40 — Roarian2 rubs forehead
09:40 <panth> Yeah I skipped Pact entirely D
09:40 <panth> XD
09:40 <Elara> IRCcloud good for running more than one server
09:40 <•Wildbow> Twig is getting a much better reception than Pact
09:40 <•Wildbow> Real life got in the way of Pact
09:40 <panth> Mmhmm
09:41 <Nae`cloud> I basically don't know half the people in the channel list
09:41 <•Wildbow> Though Pact is maintianing a fairly low readership #, the income stream is still strong.
09:41 <Nae`cloud> o_O
09:41 <•Wildbow> We had an insurgence from reddit
09:41 <•Wildbow> I don't know a lot of them.
09:41 <apoc> Twig is better, objectively than either Pact or Worm imo
09:41 <panth> Aren't insurgencies generally a... military thing?
09:41 <Elara> I am loving Twig atm Wilbur. I still can't see where the hell the story is going
09:41 <Elara> but eh
09:41 <Nae`cloud> apoc: orly
09:41 <apoc> but the aesthetic and world of Worm is more attractive to many I think
09:42 <Nae`cloud> might give it a read then
09:42 <Roarian2> tbf, think about it
09:42 <•Wildbow> Yeah.  I think Worm was a bit of a lucky break
09:42 <Roarian2> how many superhero epics are there in written form
09:42 <Nae`cloud> see people, that's how you rec stuff
09:42 <Roarian2> just, anywhere
09:42 <•Wildbow> Because it came out around the time the good superhero movies did
09:42 <Roarian2> even good superhero stories in general
09:42 <•Wildbow> and people were more receptive
09:42 <Roarian2> they're rare as hell
09:42 <Roarian2> and mostly in comics
09:42 <panth> I've also said before that I think Worm has the benefit of having knocked around your head for a few years in drabbles and drafts and what-not
09:42 <Elara> to be fair, I got receptive enough to superhero stuff that I'd give Worm a try because of Phil Sandifer
09:43 <apoc> Mmmm, maybe. It was, at the very least, a very unique combination of a strong character based novel with an attractive aesthetic and theming, yet different enough to make it much more interesting
09:43 <Jon> Vereorskool: I don't actually read any of WB's stuff. >_>;.
09:43 <Jon> I've been gearing toward my own original stuff lately so I've been avoiding reading a lot and mostly been focusing on introspective bits.
09:43 <•Wildbow> It's tripe anyway
09:43 <Vereorskool> :P
09:43 <Jon> Every author hates their own stuff.
09:43 <•Wildbow> What do you write, Jon?
09:43 <Vereorskool> You should read Twig
09:43 <Jon> And if they don't then they're assholes.
09:43 <•Wildbow> I love my stuff, but I think it's tripe.
09:44 <Jon> New stuff is brilliant.
09:44 <Jon> Old stuff...
09:44 — Jon shudders.
09:44 <Jon> I've put things into words that never should have.
09:44 — apoc grins
09:44 <•Wildbow> What genre?
09:44 <•Mishie> Jon: Abjuration
09:44 <Jon> Wildbow: Whatever takes my fancy.
09:44 <•Mishie> ;)
09:44 <Nae`cloud> Jon writes smut
09:44 <O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
09:44 <Nae`cloud> blushy, no
09:44 <•Mishie> god
09:44 <O\\\O> Blushy Yes!
09:44 <Vereorskool> Blushy, no
09:44 <O\\\O> Blushy Yes!
09:44 <•Mishie> at least you're not as bad
09:44 <•Wildbow> I wish I could write smut
09:44 <•Mishie> As Shezza and Denarian
09:44 <Jon> I mainly do fanfiction because playing on someone elses sandbox is easier than making your own.
09:44 — Vereorskool remembers the Smutment
09:45 <•Mishie> the cringe is just amazing whenever anybody mentions it
09:45 <Jon> Lol.
09:45 <Elara> and I got into Phil Sandifer because I am a nerd and he was writing interestingly on Dr Who
09:45 <Jon> It was great at the time.
09:45 <Elara> so it's all a bit circular
09:45 <•Wildbow> On all the writing boards, people talk about how smut is the way to financial success as a writer
09:45 <Jon> But you can't even force Shez to look at Denarian.
09:45 <Jon> Uh.
09:45 <Jon> yes and no.
09:45 <keyonte0> I'm almost certain a complete idiot is response for creating Facebook's report categories.
09:45 <Nae`cloud> latest Dr Who was awesome
09:45 <•Wildbow> Or they do the novel thing and smut on the side to pay the bills.
09:45 <Jon> Smut is easy money.
09:45 <•Wildbow> ^
09:45 <Jon> But if you get linked to it you get tarnished.
09:45 <Elara> key they don't want to get reports
09:45 <Elara> that would be work
09:46 <Jon> Elara yep.
09:46 <keyonte0> In general it's remarkable how incompetent Facebook is at moderating their site.
09:46 <Jon> FB's DMCA is a joke.
09:46 <Roarian2> meanwhile 50 shades is a glorified smutty fanfic which somehow manages to be a household name
09:46 <Roarian2> 'o.o
09:46 <Jon> Feh.
09:46 <Jon> 50 Shades.
09:46 <Jon> Started as a twilight fanfic
09:46 <Jon> and was repurposed.
09:46 <Roarian2> one of those dreadful AU fanfics
09:46 <apoc> But
09:46 <apoc> Buuuut
09:46 <Jon> Literally all she did was ctrl f replace the names.
09:46 <Roarian2> where only the names are kept
09:46 <keyonte0> Which was about a self-insert's romance with a Mary Sue.
09:47 <keyonte0> Noticing a trend, here?
09:47 <apoc> Jon can't even use persona non grata correctly
09:47 <apoc> jeez
09:47 <Nae`cloud> oh
09:47 <keyonte0> Those teenager writing those awful fanfics seem to have the right idea about what sells.
09:47 <Nae`cloud> has she replied
09:47 <Nae`cloud> happyg?
09:48 <•Mishie> One Day
09:48 <O\\\O> hey
09:48 <Jon> lol apoc.
09:48 <Nae`cloud> Aww
09:48 <O\\\O> 50 shades was more than a glorified smutfic
09:48 <Jon> That actually gave me pause.
09:48 <Nae`cloud> regardless of the overly pedantic stuff in her post
09:48 <Jon> and I had to check if I did use it incorrectly.
09:48 <Roarian2> keyonte, a lot of published fiction is much shittier than people suspect because only the good stuff gets the recognition
09:48 <apoc> it was the surety in her tone
09:48 <Elara> a lot of published fiction is genuinely shite
09:48 <Nae`cloud> I wanted her to stick around
09:48 <Nae`cloud> but damn Tenages and Xiph in that thread tho
09:49 <Roarian2> most of them are decent in terms of spelling and grammar, compared to fanfic
09:49 <O\\\O> it was the distilled glorified smutfic of a bunch of fans, mixing in popular fanon and headcanon and making a lot of fans really happy
09:49 <Roarian2> but there's a lot of bad plotting going on
09:49 <Ched> ^
09:49 <O\\\O> until she took it and changed the names and sold it
09:49 <Nae`cloud> tbh
09:49 <panth> Oh, lord.
09:49 <apoc> and then sometimes you get Menace
09:49 <O\\\O> cutting out the fandom entirely
09:49 <panth> Elara: write Worm/ My Immortal
09:50 <apoc> who somehow churns out 30+ pages of story without a single typo
09:50 <Roarian2> in which Taylor is a goff
09:50 <Roarian2> ?
09:50 <panth> "My name is Tay'lor De'mentia Dark'ness Way"
09:50 <Elara> panth nobody deserves that
09:50 <apoc> the 13-year old abomination
09:50 <Elara> not even you
09:50 <panth> "...IT WAS ARMSMASTER!!!"
09:50 <Roarian2> *Raven Way
09:50 <Roarian2> get it right
09:50 <O\\\O> i put up my middle finger at him
09:50 <panth> Yes yes that
09:51 <panth> Would be great
09:51 <Roarian2> the undersiders are now a rock group who all took edgy names instead of their canon ones
09:51 <panth> The Prepbringers
09:51 <panth> They h8 Goffton Bay
09:52 <Roarian2> Jack or someone would just wander in on occasion and talk in ye olde english
09:52 <Roarian2> I hath telekinesis
09:52 <panth> Ye olde /butcherede/ Ynglyshe
09:53 <•Wildbow> Fun fact.  The Y in Ye was pronounced 'Th'.
09:53 <•Wildbow> 'Ye old butcher shop' is said the same way as The old butcher shop
09:54 <Ched> I didn't know that.
09:54 <Ched> Cool
09:54 <Elara> it's an Anglo-Saxon letter called Thorn, that just looks kinda like y
09:55 <panth> Something like how they wrote "s" to look like "f"
09:55 <panth> And fo you got ftrange-looking fpellings, fometimes
09:58 <Jon> my Immortal was a masterpiece
09:58 <Jon> almost better than..
09:59 <Jon> https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8181390/1/Doom-Repercussions-of-Evil-Repost
09:59 <panth> ...Sanic?
09:59 <Jon> This is a repost of the original master piece.
09:59 <•Wildbow> Gotta go fast sanic?
09:59 <Nae`cloud> My Original
09:59 <Nae`cloud> Immortal even
09:59 <Nae`cloud> so great
09:59 <Nae`cloud> can never forget
10:00 <Nae`cloud> I wonder what the author of My Immortal thinks of their work now.
10:00 <Nae`cloud> especially given its fame
10:01 <Jon> All as planned.
10:01 <keyonte0> I think part of the appeal of bad fiction is that the typical reader resonates more with something that they probable could've written.
10:01 <•Wildbow> Was My Immortal intentionally bad or was it just the stars aligning right?
10:01 <keyonte0> I feel the same way about music.
10:02 <apoc> We'll never truly know
10:02 <•Wildbow> I was under the impression people weren't certain
10:02 <Nae`cloud> It was one of those things that was probably really written by a 13 year old girl Wildbow
10:02 <Jon> No one is certain even now.
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10:02 <Nae`cloud> but given the quality
10:02 <Nae`cloud> you really do wonder
10:03 <Klackerz> hmm New server
10:03 <Nae`cloud> surely nobody is that bad unless it's intentional
10:03 <Jon> That's why it was amazing.
10:03 <Jon> Klackerz sorry buddy.
10:03 <keyonte0> My Immortal felt WAYY to stereotypicallly bad.
10:03 <Jon> it's the [No Klackerzs] Club.
10:03 <Jon> They already have a Klackerz...
10:03 <Klackerz> wut
10:03 <Nae`cloud> yeah
10:03 <•Mishie> mhm
10:03 <Nae`cloud> they wanted a Klackerz but you're not good enough
10:03 <Klackerz> WHAT
10:04 <Jon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbXjt_ZlVOE <- reference
10:04 <keyonte0> I don't thing it's possible for a writer to do damn near every fucking thing wrong like My Immortal did.
10:04 <Nae`cloud> ugh
10:04 <•Wildbow> Can you really have too many klackerz?
10:04 <Nae`cloud> can we get GlaDoS in here now
10:04 <Klackerz> One is more than enough Wildbow XD
10:04 <Nae`cloud> I hate clicking on links without looking at the title and GlaDoS is really handy for that
10:04 <Jon> It's a simpsons clip
10:04 <Jon> from the episode 'No Homers'
10:05 <apoc> keynote0 I'm not sure if you've really read enough fanfiction if you think that
10:05 <Jon> Homer joins that secret society and takes over, only for everyone to leave after he decides to use the position for good.
10:05 <keyonte0> Oh I've read plenty.
10:06 <keyonte0> And even the worst fanfics I've read manage to not fuck up at EVERY turn.
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10:08 <Jon> I disagree.
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10:08 <apoc> You've never met Minion, I take it
10:08 <Jon> Minion is the Master of finding badfics.
10:09 — panth read a Dwarf Fortress/Worm crossover yesterday
10:09 <Vereorskool> ^
10:09 <panth> It wasn't... bad, just odd
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10:23 <krahe> hey
10:23 <Ched> ohai
10:23 <Elara> who'm be Ched?
10:24 <•Wildbow> Ched be a righteous DLPer
10:24 <Ched> ? I'm Ched. I say "hi" to people who hi
10:24 <Ched> :D
10:24 <•Wildbow> Sorry to out you, Ched.
10:24 <Ched> I never hid it, any of the other times I was in here.
10:24 <Elara> are you from Cheddar?
10:24 <Ched> Ched = Cheddar = CheddarTrek
10:24 <Ched> I have a craptastic internet connection.
10:25 <Ched> So I DC a lot and come back as an alter-ego.
10:25 <•Wildbow> Oh, whoops, got my channels turned around.  Had new parahumans to the left and parahumans <2> here.  Bah.
10:25 <Ched> Haha
10:25 <Ched> Oh, thought I'd popped over to the new IRC? Probably won't, least not til I've started reading.
10:26 <•Wildbow> Fair enough
10:26 <Ched> :)
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10:52 <Yak> &Wildbow: Ched be a righteous DLPer
10:52 <Yak> hahahaha
10:52 <Yak> when did wildbow turn rastafarian
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10:58 <Elara> I think he was responding to my use of language, in saying "who'm be Ched"
10:59 <Nae`cloud> Rastafarian
10:59 <Nae`cloud> Targaryen
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11:54 <•Clarvel> Skrattybones: check teh toic
11:54 <•Clarvel> or perhaps u already ahve
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12:57 <krahe> sometime it really hard with modern techno to distinct when it's a musical technique and when it just my computer being laggy
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12:59 <krahe> oh damn, I entered the stage where I complain about modern music...
13:04 <jellysnake> Dun dun daa
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13:21 <krahe> fallout 4, it taunts me
13:21 <krahe> taunts
13:21 <krahe> 33 days left
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