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- ==Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci joined Rashida Jones to talk about the world post-COVD; Gates mentions that "we have to assume that [the next pandemic] could be three years from now"==
- Bill Gates had his first Ask Big Questions podcast with Rashida Jones today. This episode focussed on the world after COVID-19. Here are my notes. Links to archived images and full transcript at bottom of post.
- The production team is also listed in part S) of my notes; feel free to do a digg on them.
- '''Highlights (Specific section of notes mentioned in parenthesis):'''
- - Gates indicates that the Gates Foundation does a lot of their work with Bono (Part A)
- - Fauci indicates that there is an inexistent flu season in Australia; praises this is due to COVID measures (Part C)
- - Fauci mentions his job is also PR and plans to engage society with influencers to tell people to get the COVID vaccine which will be in two doses; special engagement will be done for minority populations (Parts D, E, F)
- - Fauci mentions different vaccines will be used on different age groups; but only time will tell (inherently signally his wife's work on bioethics on human experimentation) (Parts I)
- - Fauci confirms he touches base with Gates every few weeks (Part K)
- - Gates mentions that COVID isolation was proposed because they did not know who the superspreaders were (Part N)
- - Gates mentions of upcoming pandemic. Quote: "Hopefully, with luck, it could be 20 years from now." "But we have to assume that it could be three years from now." (Part R)
- '''Full notes:'''
- ''Note: Each section of the notes below corresponds to the section of the transcript that is screencapped in the images.''
- A)
- - '''Gates plans to hug singer Bono (Paul David Hewson) once things get "back to normal".''' Gates indicates that a lot of the '''Foundation does work with Bono.'''
- B)
- Post-COVID world as per Gates:
- - People will go to the office less
- - Floorspace within the office will be shared between multiple companies; each company will occupy the floor on different days of the week
- - Downtown will look different (i.e. be inexistent)
- C)
- - Fauci indicates everyone six months of age or older should get a flu shot this year
- - Gates indicates that even if this is a very low flu season, there must be high compliance of the flu shot
- - Fauci correlates public health measures (masking, washing hands, social distancing, etc.) as the reason why Australia has had an almost inexistent flu season. '''He further indicates that the same measures used to prevent COVID also help prevent the flu.''' --> Therefore COVID is akin the flu
- D)
- - Fauci mentions to drive vaccination rates high, society must be engaged with people that the society trust (i.e. influencers and Blue Check marks)
- - Fauci mentions '''extra engagement must be done for minority populations''' because htey have a historical understanding of mistrust - African Americans and Latinos
- E)
- - '''Fauci mentions PR (public relations AKA brainwashing) is part of his job'''
- - Gates aspires to have transmission rate of COVID to exponentially decline. --> Yes, from a PCR test that is not meant to diagnose.
- F)
- - Fauci mentions there will be '''two doses for the COVID vaccines'''
- G)
- - Fauci mentions that in the past, vaccionations were given in the following order to society:
- - Health care providers
- - Individuals with underlying conditions
- - Essential workers
- - Elderly without underlying conditions
- - Students
- - Everyone else
- - Gates imagines a website where it will give individuals a priority code which he has pitched to the CDC
- H)
- - Gates mentions that they will be learning about the vaccines even after they are given to the public; they are unsure of its effectiveness in reducing transmisison of superspreaders
- I)
- - Fauci mentions that himself and Gates are looked upon in the "global community"
- - Fauci mentions that different vaccines may be used for different population groups (e.g. elderly vs young)
- - Fauci mentions that it '''will take time to learn which vaccines work best for which population'''
- --> His wife, Christine O'Grady, is bioethicist of human experimentation at the NIH. '''Conflict of interest much?'''
- J)
- - Fauci does not foresee society going "back to normal" for a while. He skips around on the question and mentions that the public health measures put into place like wearing a mask, not crowding theatres, etc. are a big different than full shutdown/lockdown
- K)
- - '''Fauci confirms that he touches base with Bill every few weeks'''
- L)
- - Gates mentions that he has spent time with his kids during lockdown; one of his kids goes to medical school and another is in college
- M)
- - Gates calls people that don't wear pants as nudists.
- N)
- - Gates mentions that coronavirus has viral loads that are "unbelievable" to those of other respiratory diseases
- - '''Gates mentions that since we don't know who superspreaders are, it is easier to tell people with COVID to isolate.'''
- - '''Gates mentions that his own modelling group, the IHME, is funded by his foundation and provided the evidence for masking'''
- O)
- - '''Gates suggests that children in grades K-8 should go back to school. Since children are going to school and will be social, he mentions that less bars and restaurants should be open to offset the social activity.'''
- --> Children recover from COVID quickly compared to older individuals; not sure about hegelian dialetic here
- P)
- - Gates mentions again that downtown businesses will thrive less post-COVID
- Q)
- - '''Gates mentions that we're going to have another pandemic. "Hopefully, with luck, it could be 20 years from now." "But we have to assume that it could be three years from now."'''
- R)
- - Gates mentions that investments must be made for preventing the "next natural epidemic, even though it might have a highter fatality". He further indicates that "the next time around, people will respond more quickly."
- S)
- Supervising producers: Jen Krajicek, Pia Dierking, David Sanger
- Researcher: Brent Christofferson
- Executive producers: Lauren Spohrer, Phoebe Judge, Bridgitt ARnold, Nick Moceri
- Co-executive producers: Kara Brown, Meghan Groob
- Producers: Carl Malone, Nadia Wilson
- '''Transcript:'''
- https://www.gatesnotes.com/-/media/Files/Podcast/BillGatesandRashidaJonesAskBigQuestionsepisode01transcript.pdf
- Archived: https://anonfiles.com/h9leAbqapc/BillGatesandRashidaJonesAskBigQuestionsepisode01transcript_1_pdf
- From here: https://www.gatesnotes.com/Podcast/What-will-the-world-look-like-after-COVID-19
- '''Note archive:'''
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