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  1. [7:39 PM] SingularisLupus: So, last night, how'd you track down Solomon ICly?
  2. [7:40 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: Hmm well... hera tracker thingie
  3. [7:40 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: basically
  4. [7:40 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: I guess :open_mouth:
  5. [7:40 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: wai?
  6. [7:40 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: wut diff does it make how I tracked him down? o_o
  7. [7:41 PM] SingularisLupus: Because technically, the HERA tracker doesn't allow you to track a player down without RP, nor does any sort of built in SL features like alt camming, the minimap, or the avatar radar.
  8. [7:42 PM] SingularisLupus: Now, of all the shit that was going on last night, this is a very very very minor issue and I don't want you to feel like I'm coming down on you about this
  9. [7:42 PM] SingularisLupus: But on the other hand, doing things right the first time, all the time, makes it so much easier to argue our side of things in situations like this.
  10. [7:42 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: flop
  11. [7:42 PM] SingularisLupus: So just shoot someone a quick '<C> Hey, where you at?' in SL IMs first next time, ok?
  12. [7:43 PM] SingularisLupus: Then wait for them to respond
  13. [7:43 PM] SingularisLupus: Since, if they're in an event or RP, they have to post that they're attempting a comms message
  14. [7:43 PM] SingularisLupus: And then you can track them down with alt cams or whatever you want
  15. [7:43 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: At the end of the day its impossible to do everything right all the time xP!
  16. [7:43 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: [2018/01/17 17:24:58] Zairdra Elmia Colt (zairdra): I still need to transfer you yer monies :3!
  17. [2018/01/17 17:25:06] Zairdra Elmia Colt (zairdra): ima find you :D
  18. [2018/01/17 17:26:15] Solomon DeAngelo (tristan.rubanis): okidoke
  19. [7:43 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: this was what I said to him lol
  20. [7:43 PM] SingularisLupus: Which was all OOC D:
  21. [7:43 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: I know
  22. [7:43 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: but it was getting late
  23. [7:43 PM] SingularisLupus: Which means I can't use any of it to argue how you found him in the first place
  24. [7:43 PM] SingularisLupus: Though
  25. [7:43 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: and I wanted to get to him quickly xD
  26. [7:43 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: so I didn't think about the <C> xD
  27. [7:44 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: imagine if I did
  28. [7:44 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: IMagine if I just put in <C> at the beginning of each of those :stuck_out_tongue:
  29. [7:44 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: this whole thing would be averted :stuck_out_tongue:
  30. [7:44 PM] SingularisLupus: No, it wouldn't have, but it certainly would give them less ammo
  31. [7:44 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: [2018/01/17 17:24:58] Zairdra Elmia Colt (zairdra): <C> I still need to transfer you yer monies :3!
  32. [2018/01/17 17:25:06] Zairdra Elmia Colt (zairdra): <C> ima find you :D
  33. [2018/01/17 17:26:15] Solomon DeAngelo (tristan.rubanis): <C> okidoke
  34. [7:44 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: then no one would give me poop over it xD
  35. [7:45 PM] SingularisLupus: Well, they still would
  36. [7:45 PM] SingularisLupus: For using emoticons in a voice comm
  37. [7:45 PM] SingularisLupus: :stuck_out_tongue:
  38. [7:45 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: My point is, if they are trying to use this as ammo, then they have made their entire argument invalid.
  39. [7:45 PM] SingularisLupus: They aren't trying to
  40. [7:45 PM] SingularisLupus: It hasn't come up
  41. [7:45 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: OHhh
  42. [7:45 PM] SingularisLupus: I'm simply trying to help you protect yourself from something like this in the future
  43. [7:46 PM] SingularisLupus: Because here's the other part of it: Had you, ICly, messaged Sol
  44. [7:46 PM] SingularisLupus: He might've, ICly, said to meet him somewhere else
  45. [7:46 PM] SingularisLupus: And -that- would've prevented the whole thing
  46. [7:46 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: Well you and I both know that from a LOGICAL point of view. Arguing such a point would be childish and would distract from the point. The most logical thing to do in that regard would be to keep everyone on point. After all it is indeed near impossible to not metagame ONCE in a while in any RP sim. x)
  47. [7:46 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: I realize :stuck_out_tongue:
  48. [7:46 PM] SingularisLupus: It's really not that hard to control 99% of metagaming.
  49. [7:46 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: But it does happen.
  50. [7:47 PM] SingularisLupus: And there's been people given formal warnings for less.
  51. [7:47 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: Well my point is, its usually simple things that we don't think about.
  52. [7:47 PM] SingularisLupus: Whether it happens or not, it isn't above board, and it's better to keep things above board so you don't have something they can use against you in a shit show like this.
  53. [7:47 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: Thats all I'm saying x)
  54. [7:47 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: I realize and I will do mah best as I usually do to avoid such situations. :3
  55. [7:49 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: From my perspective of course, I was just thinking. "OH hek, it getting later in the day... Hmm SOlomon is on again! :3! lets get him his monies that belongs to him." I had no frame of mind that in 5mins after that point, that everything would happen as it did. I did not go there with the intention of causing trouble.
  56. [7:49 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: Of course you already know this :stuck_out_tongue:
  57. [7:50 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: but my point is, that if I had the ability to anticipate it, obviously things would have been different. Unfortunately I have gotten use to not having issues like this in RoE and so it slipped my mind xD
  58. [7:50 PM] SingularisLupus: My point is that if we keep everything above board, then it'll help prevent issues like this whether you're anticipating them or not.
  59. [7:50 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: I know, I know. :open_mouth:
  60. [7:50 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: I'm not trying to argue about it, I am only explaining my viewpoint on it all. x)
  61. [7:51 PM] SingularisLupus: Believe me, I get where you're coming from, but I didn't bring this up to get your viewpoint on it, no offense. I mean that in the nicest way possible.
  62. [7:51 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: I more then understand your point and it goes without saying that I will attempt to do the best I can do and to keep things "legal" so to speak.
  63. [7:51 PM] SingularisLupus: This was more of a friendly warning from an admin dealing with all parties with any sort of fault with a fair and even hand.
  64. [7:53 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: Don't worry, I get your position and understand what you are saying. I also understand its your obligation to tell me this. More or less, my original hope was that "IF" you do have to deal with this particular argument, that you also point out the fact they are attempting to distract from the more serious issue of how Solomon and I were treated and how "they" behaved. That way things will stay on point. :open_mouth:(edited)
  65. [7:56 PM] SingularisLupus: I'm not doing this out of obligation. I'm doing this because, while the IMs and events leading up to what happened were very minor in comparison to the behavior of other parties involved, it was still something that needed correction. Bit of advice? When an admin or leader or figure of authority comes to you with something that they need you to be more careful about in regards to rules, don't try to point out how minor your part in it was. As I mentioned, I'm dealing with all parties and all issues involved in what happened, so you should focus on what I'm asking you to correct and less on what other's behaviors that also need correcting were.
  66. [7:57 PM] SingularisLupus: I don't mean to be harsh or stern, but I want to make sure you understand the point of this whole conversation. I'm trying to help you be more aware of the little things that can help prevent issues from arising in the future, regardless of what other parties involved in this issue did or didn't do.
  67. [7:57 PM] Zairdra Elmia Colt: Tay
  68. [7:59 PM] SingularisLupus: Awesome. Thanks for your time.
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