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- [16:02] <srk1214> if you happen to be free for a flash cap, rounding up the troops
- [16:02] <srk1214> or participating yourself
- [16:02] <Birkal> I can't
- [16:02] <Birkal> sorry =(
- [16:03] <bugmaniacbob> thought as much
- [16:03] <bugmaniacbob> nobody's ever free for a flash cap so long as I'm online
- [16:03] <srk1214> I though as much too, but hey
- [16:03] <srk1214> thought I'd ask
- [16:04] <bugmaniacbob> so how's that piano recital coming along
- 13[16:08] <srk1214> ...well DHR darkie and bugmaniacbob would you all be down? I think we'd only need one or two more.
- 01[16:08] <@darkie> whats a flash cap
- 01[16:08] <@darkie> bugmaniacbob is it actually an essay or is it actually short answer question
- 01[16:08] <@darkie> lol
- [16:08] <bugmaniacbob> depends how long I feel like spending on it
- [16:09] <bugmaniacbob> I'm surprisingly concise with uni work
- [16:09] <bugmaniacbob> would you believe
- [16:09] <srk1214> http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-cap-kitchen-non-competitive-discussion-goes-here.3471873/page-4#post-4479478
- [16:09] <srk1214> this was the first one made
- [16:09] <Birkal> alright bmb, I got approved yesterday, so that was a big deal
- [16:09] <Birkal> now it's just pouring in 4+ hours a day, lol
- 01[16:09] <@darkie> ok i'm down
- [16:09] <bugmaniacbob> neat
- 01[16:10] <@darkie> i have class till 6:45
- 01[16:10] <@darkie> is this right now?
- 03[16:10] * BarackObama sets mode: +ao Birkal Birkal
- [16:10] <bugmaniacbob> so you've got more time to spend on IRC now, or are you just passing by?
- 01[16:10] <@darkie> so i've got some time
- 01[16:10] <@darkie> lol
- [16:10] <bugmaniacbob> wait is that 4+ hours on a piano, or writing as well
- [16:11] <bugmaniacbob> the former would hurt your fingers wouldn't it
- [16:11] <&Birkal> just piano
- [16:11] <&Birkal> ehh, the pain goes away after a while
- [16:11] <%DHR> Wow dedication Birkal :o
- [16:11] <bugmaniacbob> wo
- 01[16:11] <@darkie> wow such dedication
- [16:11] <%DHR> I could never imagine playing an instrument for that long
- 01[16:11] <@darkie> wow
- [16:11] <bugmaniacbob> I gave up on piano the moment it started to hurt
- [16:11] <&Birkal> lol it sounds more dramatic than it is :P
- [16:11] <&Birkal> you just kind of get to a practice room and sit there until you're kicked out
- [16:12] <&Birkal> I practiced over 8 hours on monday lol
- [16:12] <&Birkal> I can show you guys the recordings once it's all done
- [16:12] <bugmaniacbob> I have visions of you just sitting in a room endlessly playing the entertainer aimlessly
- [16:12] <&Birkal> it's fun stuff
- [16:12] <&Birkal> lol
- [16:12] <&Birkal> entertainer is a fun one
- [16:12] <bugmaniacbob> I'd like to see/hear/appropriate verb for the format that
- 01[16:13] <@darkie> lets make a mega evo
- 01[16:13] <@darkie> :D
- [16:13] <srk1214> Birkal, I'm mega impressed
- 01[16:13] <@darkie> since this is unofficial anyway
- [16:13] <bugmaniacbob> ...mega evo's not a bad idea, it'd take less time
- [16:13] <&Birkal> yeah make mega froxbite
- [16:13] <srk1214> that is, my hold item is an impressedite
- [16:13] <smashlloyd20> birkal :o
- [16:13] <bugmaniacbob> make mega toletazza
- [16:13] <&Birkal> lol
- [16:13] <bugmaniacbob> it would have 4 types instead of 3
- 01[16:14] <@darkie> lets do it lets do it lets do it lets do it
- 01[16:14] <@darkie> no need to pick a movepool
- 01[16:14] <@darkie> either
- 01[16:14] <@darkie> though we could add some gen 6 moves
- 01[16:14] <@darkie> that might take the fun out of it though :<
- [16:15] <srk1214> yeah no I'd rather make a flash cap fresh
- [16:15] <bugmaniacbob> art/stats/ability and sod all else
- 01[16:15] <@darkie> yeah i changed my mind
- [16:15] <srk1214> and I don't think we should make anything gen 6 tbh
- 01[16:15] <@darkie> aw
- [16:15] <srk1214> actually wait
- [16:15] <srk1214> make a fairy flash cap
- [16:15] <%DHR> @_@
- [16:15] <bugmaniacbob> no gen 6, so no megas
- [16:15] <%DHR> NO
- [16:15] <%DHR> NO FAIREIS
- [16:15] <srk1214> so that no fairy for CAP 1
- [16:15] <bugmaniacbob> guys guys guys
- [16:15] <srk1214> no one will want to match the flash cap duh
- [16:15] <bugmaniacbob> MULTITYPE
- [16:15] <bugmaniacbob> + Protean
- [16:15] <%DHR> No
- [16:15] <%DHR> Mtype is banned
- [16:16] <bugmaniacbob> since when
- [16:16] <bugmaniacbob> who brought out the flash cap bible while I was AWOL
- [16:16] <Coronisleeping> all of the fairies
- 01[16:16] <@darkie> no gen 6 things?
- 01[16:16] <@darkie> wynaut
- 03[16:16] * Coronisleeping is now known as Coronis
- [16:16] <bugmaniacbob> so what are we doing then
- [16:16] <bugmaniacbob> if anything
- [16:16] <srk1214> because CAP is still in gen V mode
- 01[16:17] <@darkie> but this is unofficial
- [16:17] <srk1214> I guess
- [16:17] <bugmaniacbob> but the final product thread was posted
- [16:17] <bugmaniacbob> next CAP will likely be gen 6
- 01[16:17] <@darkie> oh well i dont mind either way
- [16:17] <%DHR> rofl
- 01[16:17] <@darkie> lets get started
- [16:17] <bugmaniacbob> doesn't that technically make us in gen 6
- [16:17] <%DHR> Ive been around for most of the flash caps :P
- [16:17] <srk1214> OK concept subs
- [16:17] <&Birkal> you guys need a flash cap tl
- [16:17] <&Birkal> imo
- [16:17] <bugmaniacbob> I volunteer
- [16:18] <%DHR> N
- [16:18] <%DHR> :P
- [16:18] <srk1214> as tribute
- [16:18] <bugmaniacbob> I totally have the most experience
- [16:18] <%DHR> Not after the last one
- 13[16:18] <bugmaniacbob> except darkie
- [16:18] <srk1214> I nominate DHR as having the most flashcap experience
- [16:18] <bugmaniacbob> but arghonaut's ability still isn't properly named so
- 01[16:18] <@darkie> i'll have to leave at parts so i can't do it
- [16:18] <bugmaniacbob> second DHR
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- [16:18] <srk1214> plus bmb, we're relying on you to produce the bootiful art
- [16:18] <%DHR> Is this happeninininining D:
- [16:18] <bugmaniacbob> wait what
- [16:19] <srk1214> lol no one else here is an artist
- [16:19] <bugmaniacbob> ...
- [16:19] <bugmaniacbob> well alright then
- [16:19] <&jas61292> what is going on?
- [16:19] <bugmaniacbob> at least I'll finally win an art poll
- 01[16:19] <@darkie> lol
- 01[16:19] <@darkie> flash cap jas61292
- [16:19] <srk1214> flashcap about to start
- [16:19] <bugmaniacbob> DE FAULT DE FAULT
- [16:19] <&jas61292> Oh, one of those
- [16:19] <bugmaniacbob> ok concept
- [16:19] <bugmaniacbob> fog weather starter
- [16:19] <srk1214> hasn't been one since july iirc
- [16:19] <&jas61292> lol fog
- 01[16:20] <@darkie> what does fog do
- [16:20] <&jas61292> I highly approve of that idea
- [16:20] <bugmaniacbob> description: to examine the effect of fog on the <insert metagame here> metagame
- [16:20] <&jas61292> lowers accuracy
- 01[16:20] <@darkie> meh
- [16:20] <srk1214> too much like a gravity mon imo
- 01[16:20] <@darkie> what about
- 01[16:20] <@darkie> auto spinner
- [16:20] <bugmaniacbob> meh
- 01[16:20] <@darkie> or auto defogger
- 01[16:20] <@darkie> lol
- [16:21] <bugmaniacbob> too many spinners/defoggers
- 01[16:21] <@darkie> (using gen6 defog)
- [16:21] <bugmaniacbob> must do something really original
- [16:21] <%DHR> no
- [16:21] <%DHR> fog
- [16:21] <srk1214> DHR are you going to flash TL?
- [16:21] <%DHR> is good
- [16:21] <%DHR> cause that would be hilarious
- [16:21] <%DHR> just to annoy the fuck out of everyone
- [16:21] <bugmaniacbob> one thing
- [16:21] <bugmaniacbob> I don't think I can draw fog
- [16:21] <srk1214> makes bmb's drawing easier too lol. just shroud the whole damn design in a cloud
- [16:21] <bugmaniacbob> so with that caveat
- [16:21] <srk1214> oh never mind
- [16:22] <&jas61292> It doesn't have to be fog
- [16:22] <bugmaniacbob> well it's kind of... foggy
- [16:22] <&jas61292> it just has to be associated with it
- 01[16:22] <@darkie> what about a gen 5 stance change
- 01[16:22] <@darkie> user
- [16:22] <&jas61292> some flavor crap
- [16:22] <bugmaniacbob> MSPaint doesn't do shapes without edges
- [16:22] <srk1214> stance change makes bmb draw two things...
- 01[16:22] <@darkie> use the spraypaint tool
- [16:22] <&Birkal> artists are easy to find
- [16:22] <&Birkal> just pull some from smeargle
- [16:22] <bugmaniacbob> Birkal don't ruin the moment
- [16:22] <srk1214> lol
- [16:22] <bugmaniacbob> this is my time
- [16:22] <bugmaniacbob> nobody else's
- [16:22] <srk1214> DHR are you the spriter for this guy?
- [16:22] <%DHR> Me Sprite?
- [16:22] <%DHR> D:
- [16:22] <%DHR> I could try?
- [16:23] <srk1214> lol you're a robot
- [16:23] <srk1214> you can do anything
- [16:23] <%DHR> :|
- [16:23] <bugmaniacbob> oh yeah spraypaint
- [16:23] <%DHR> No... Not really no
- [16:23] <bugmaniacbob> I forgot that was a thing
- [16:23] <srk1214> I was joking, don't worry
- [16:23] <srk1214> we'll rope someone in.
- [16:23] <%DHR> Did you not see my attempt at Mollux?
- [16:23] <srk1214> quany or noobiess or someone will pop in before we're done
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> what about
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> Name: Show Me Your Moves!
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> General Description: A good user of moves with effects not frequently used in the OU metagame.
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> this concept
- [16:24] <bugmaniacbob> well, let's get started then
- [16:24] <bugmaniacbob> are we going with fog?
- [16:24] <bugmaniacbob> oh
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> or is that the one that won
- [16:24] <bugmaniacbob> keep on throwing ideas into the aether then
- 13[16:24] <%DHR> ... darkie
- [16:24] <%DHR> That won
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> nvm
- [16:24] <%DHR> :|
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> lol
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> i wasnt active then!!
- [16:24] <srk1214> fog won?
- 13[16:24] <%DHR> please remove @ from darkie Birkal
- [16:24] <%DHR> Clearly has no idea whats going on
- 01[16:24] <@darkie> i just picked a concept thread and picked the coolest one
- [16:25] <srk1214> lol I get it now
- 13[16:25] <srk1214> yeah megafail darkie...
- 01[16:25] <@darkie> Description: A Pokemon that is built around concealing information from the opponent or misinforming the opponent in a generation where information is more readily available than ever.
- 03[16:25] * verbatim (Mibbit@synIRC-4236811B.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #cap
- [16:25] <bugmaniacbob> I don't think that one won
- [16:25] <srk1214> I wanna make something that takes advantage of new ability/ies from gen 6
- 01[16:26] <@darkie> i thought we're doing gen 5
- [16:26] <bugmaniacbob> new abilities hmm
- 01[16:26] <@darkie> for some dumb reason
- 01[16:26] <@darkie> -_________-
- [16:26] <srk1214> flash caps don't need concepts per se. Froxbite was literally just make a hailmon lol
- 01[16:26] <@darkie> we need something to inspire tho
- [16:27] <bugmaniacbob> how about "universal dragon counter"
- 01[16:27] <@darkie> in gen 5 or 6?
- [16:27] <bugmaniacbob> now that we have the type to actually do it
- [16:27] <srk1214> aka fairy type?
- 01[16:27] <@darkie> so 6
- 01[16:27] <@darkie> ok cool
- [16:27] <bugmaniacbob> aka Fairy-type w/actual defence
- 01[16:27] <@darkie> have to counter goodra too
- 01[16:27] <@darkie> so
- [16:27] <srk1214> !data furfrou
- 01[16:27] <@darkie> suction cups
- [16:27] <TIBot> Furfrou - Normal | Fur Coat | 75/80/60/65/90/102 | 472 BST | Limbo | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 60 BP
- [16:28] <srk1214> oh wait that's normal
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> OR
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> nvm
- [16:28] <srk1214> wait
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> how about
- [16:28] <bugmaniacbob> has to counter dragalge
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> we make an awesome pivot
- [16:28] <%DHR> I love fur coat as an ability
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> !data fur coat
- [16:28] <bugmaniacbob> you mean like krilowatt
- [16:28] <srk1214> mon with great potential coverage b/c of the normal type-changing abilities
- [16:28] <TIBot> Fur Coat: Halves physical damage done to this Pokemon.
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> o
- [16:28] <srk1214> mon that has aerilate and glaciate etc
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> is that what krilowatt was
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> ooo
- [16:28] <srk1214> but it has to pick one for coverage
- [16:28] <bugmaniacbob> well it wasn't
- 01[16:28] <@darkie> those are cool abilities
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> i like that idea srk1214
- [16:29] <bugmaniacbob> it's what it ended up being really
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> there's
- [16:29] <bugmaniacbob> that's a neat idea actually
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> aerilate refrigerate
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> normalize
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> except normalize sux
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> !data delcatty
- [16:29] <TIBot> Delcatty - Normal | Cute Charm/Normalize/Wonder Skin (H) | 70/65/65/55/55/70 | 380 BST | NU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 60 BP
- [16:29] <srk1214> pixillate
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> oh yeah pixellate
- [16:29] <bugmaniacbob> aerilate rapid spin
- [16:29] <srk1214> aerilate, refrigerate, pixellate
- [16:29] <srk1214> any others?
- 01[16:29] <@darkie> lets do refrigerate
- [16:30] <srk1214> not counting normalize lol
- 01[16:30] <@darkie> aurorus sux
- 01[16:30] <@darkie> mega pinsir can be good already
- 01[16:30] <@darkie> sylveon is good enough
- 02[16:30] * V4 (stray@no.regrets.cause.i.got.nothin.to.lose) Quit (Quit: bye)
- [16:30] <srk1214> why not two?
- 01[16:30] <@darkie> we could do too
- 01[16:30] <@darkie> two
- [16:30] <bugmaniacbob> chitinate
- [16:30] <srk1214> and it can pick if it wants the flying coverage or the ice coverage or the fairy coverage
- [16:30] <bugmaniacbob> all normal moves become bug-type
- [16:31] <srk1214> lol
- 01[16:31] <@darkie> we could make a new ability
- 01[16:31] <@darkie> with the same effect
- 01[16:31] <@darkie> i have no problem with that
- [16:31] <bugmaniacbob> hmm
- 01[16:31] <@darkie> draconate
- 01[16:31] <@darkie> lol
- [16:31] <bugmaniacbob> well let's pick something and roll with it
- [16:31] <%DHR> Uhhh
- [16:31] <%DHR> Yeah no
- 01[16:31] <@darkie> let's pick a new type
- [16:31] <bugmaniacbob> where'd our TL get to
- [16:32] <bugmaniacbob> I still like absolute Dragon counter
- [16:32] <bugmaniacbob> fairy/steel @ levitate
- [16:32] <bugmaniacbob> oh wait haxorus
- 01[16:32] <@darkie> gg
- [16:32] <bugmaniacbob> never mind
- [16:32] <%DHR> Uhhh Fire types and Mold Breaker
- [16:32] <bugmaniacbob> yeah I know
- 01[16:32] <@darkie> i like the -ate ability with a new type
- 01[16:32] <@darkie> that's my pick
- [16:33] <bugmaniacbob> something that makes all moves water-type
- [16:33] <bugmaniacbob> for a rain sweeper
- [16:33] <srk1214> Flagrate - turns normal moves into Fire moves
- [16:33] <srk1214> and boosts power etc
- [16:33] <bugmaniacbob> because CAP doesn't have enough rain already
- [16:33] <srk1214> fuck u scizor take a flagrate quick attack
- [16:33] <bugmaniacbob> rate of flags
- 01[16:34] <@darkie> thats a dumb name but i'm down
- [16:34] <bugmaniacbob> didn't froxbite already do that
- [16:34] <bugmaniacbob> pyruvate
- [16:34] <bugmaniacbob> no wait that's a 3 carbon sugar
- [16:34] <%DHR> rofl
- [16:34] <srk1214> oh that's true
- [16:34] <%DHR> Just call it
- [16:34] <%DHR> Flame On
- [16:34] <%DHR> ;)
- [16:34] <srk1214> froxbite had a new fire priority move
- [16:34] <srk1214> not fire, or at least if we do fire no priority moves
- 01[16:34] <@darkie> or NO
- 01[16:35] <@darkie> lets do
- 01[16:35] <@darkie> grass type
- 01[16:35] <@darkie> that type is underappreciated
- 01[16:35] <@darkie> i vote grass
- [16:35] <bugmaniacbob> what kind of coverage does grass/fairy get again
- [16:35] <srk1214> missing out on steel as a whole
- 01[16:35] <@darkie> uhh
- [16:35] <bugmaniacbob> and poison
- 01[16:35] <@darkie> fire
- 01[16:35] <@darkie> misses fire
- 01[16:36] <@darkie> fire resists fairy for some reason
- [16:36] <bugmaniacbob> so steel/poison/fire
- [16:36] <Canis_Majoris> can we make fire/fairy
- [16:36] <srk1214> so grass/fairy with a Normal->Ground ability?
- [16:36] <bugmaniacbob> great so give it EQ
- [16:36] <bugmaniacbob> and we're set
- [16:36] <%DHR> No no fairies
- 01[16:36] <@darkie> lol
- [16:36] <bugmaniacbob> FAIRIES
- 01[16:36] <@darkie> normal->grass ability
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- 01[16:36] <@darkie> imo
- 06[16:36] * %DHR bans fairy
- [16:36] <Canis_Majoris> howaboutno.jpg
- [16:36] <bugmaniacbob> how about
- [16:36] <bugmaniacbob> grass/poison
- [16:36] <bugmaniacbob> with forest's curse
- 01[16:36] <@darkie> whats forest's curse
- [16:36] <srk1214> !data forest's curse
- [16:36] <TIBot> Forest's Curse - Grass | Status | Power: -- | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 32 | Changes the target's type to Grass.
- 01[16:37] <@darkie> lol
- [16:37] <srk1214> so troll
- [16:37] <Canis_Majoris> so venusaur
- [16:37] <bugmaniacbob> ok new idea
- [16:37] <Canis_Majoris> with forest's curse
- [16:37] <bugmaniacbob> "the king"
- [16:37] <bugmaniacbob> has all the king-related moves
- [16:37] <Canis_Majoris> dragon/fairy would be cool
- 01[16:37] <@darkie> lol
- [16:37] <Numbuh214> well
- 01[16:37] <@darkie> what moves are there
- [16:37] <Canis_Majoris> neutral to ice
- [16:37] <bugmaniacbob> king's shield
- [16:37] <Canis_Majoris> immune to dragon
- 01[16:37] <@darkie> sacred sword
- [16:37] <bugmaniacbob> noble roar
- [16:37] <Numbuh214> wait
- 01[16:37] <@darkie> king's shield
- [16:37] <bugmaniacbob> sacred sword
- [16:37] <Canis_Majoris> sadly still weak to fairy
- [16:37] <bugmaniacbob> uhh
- [16:37] <Numbuh214> fairy doesn't resist ice?
- [16:37] <Canis_Majoris> wat
- [16:37] <srk1214> fairy does not resist ice
- [16:38] <bugmaniacbob> outrage
- 01[16:38] <@darkie> fairy doesnt resist ice
- [16:38] <Canis_Majoris> pokemon coverage lied to me AUGH
- [16:38] <Numbuh214> okay so
- [16:38] <Numbuh214> my idea
- 01[16:38] <@darkie> king idea is good with me
- 01[16:38] <@darkie> or normal->X
- 01[16:38] <@darkie> where x is not ice/fairy/flying
- [16:38] <EagleAway> heey
- [16:38] <Numbuh214> steel/fairy that has a watered down shadow tag
- [16:38] <EagleAway> so what's happening?
- [16:38] <bugmaniacbob> DHR you're going to have to make an executive decision mate
- [16:39] <Numbuh214> that only works the first turn it selects a move
- [16:39] <bugmaniacbob> flashcap
- [16:39] <%DHR> What are my choices
- [16:39] <srk1214> flash capping like you wanted earlier. still picking our concept.
- [16:39] <EagleAway> oh goodie
- [16:39] <bugmaniacbob> fog of war
- [16:39] <EagleAway> brb
- [16:39] <bugmaniacbob> normal-> type
- [16:39] <srk1214> I like normal->type... can't settle on which
- [16:39] <bugmaniacbob> dragon killer
- [16:39] <Canis_Majoris> why do we /have/ to have a concept
- [16:39] <bugmaniacbob> king pin
- 01[16:39] <@darkie> or "the king"
- [16:39] <Canis_Majoris> how about not making a new ability period
- [16:39] <Canis_Majoris> and just use fur coat
- [16:39] <Canis_Majoris> and put it on a good mon
- [16:39] <%DHR> ^
- 01[16:39] <@darkie> what do you say dhr
- [16:40] <%DHR> I'd like fog of war or king pin
- 01[16:40] <@darkie> ok let's vote
- [16:40] <bugmaniacbob> ok casting vote then
- 01[16:40] <@darkie> i vote kingpin
- [16:40] <%DHR> i have no desire to make a dragon killer when there are so many already
- [16:40] <bugmaniacbob> all those in favour of king pin say aye
- 01[16:40] <@darkie> AYE
- [16:40] <srk1214> my problem with king pin is what are "king" moves
- [16:40] <imanalt> what is this
- [16:40] <srk1214> how is sacred sword a king move
- [16:40] <imanalt> flashcap
- [16:40] <Canis_Majoris> Kingmon used Nidoking!
- [16:40] <bugmaniacbob> we cross that bridge when we come to it
- [16:40] <Canis_Majoris> Wait /what/~
- [16:40] <imanalt> fill me in on current mon
- [16:40] <bugmaniacbob> still on concept
- [16:40] <srk1214> still picking concept
- [16:40] <Canis_Majoris> that's dumb tho let's use fur coat on a good mon
- [16:40] <bugmaniacbob> all the dance moves
- [16:41] <bugmaniacbob> kings must be great dancers
- [16:41] <Canis_Majoris> so aurumoth
- [16:41] <srk1214> oh so you mean like aurumoth then T_T
- [16:41] <bugmaniacbob> also parting shot
- [16:41] <imanalt> fur coat is silly because literally all it does is giveyou higher defense
- [16:41] <srk1214> no to kingmon
- [16:41] <bugmaniacbob> aurumoth only had two
- [16:41] <imanalt> theres nothing interesting, why not just give it higher stats and honey gather
- [16:41] <bugmaniacbob> OK all those in favour of fog of war say aye
- [16:41] <imanalt> parting shot is cool
- [16:41] <bugmaniacbob> aye
- [16:41] <Canis_Majoris> what is fog of war
- [16:41] <Canis_Majoris> what's the fog of war one
- [16:41] <bugmaniacbob> fog-mon
- 01[16:41] <@darkie> fog ability
- [16:41] <srk1214> explain to me how fog works?
- [16:41] <imanalt> oh jesus
- [16:41] <Canis_Majoris> ^
- [16:41] <imanalt> you assholes
- [16:41] <bugmaniacbob> lowers accuracy
- [16:42] <imanalt> its a good thing this wont be playable
- [16:42] <bugmaniacbob> goes away if you use defog
- [16:42] <imanalt> :p
- [16:42] <Canis_Majoris> that's
- [16:42] <Canis_Majoris> that's dumb
- [16:42] <Canis_Majoris> no
- [16:42] <bugmaniacbob> oh come on
- [16:42] <bugmaniacbob> dhr gives us two options
- [16:42] <bugmaniacbob> you do not have the right to say both are dumb
- [16:42] <srk1214> I vote fog of war
- 03[16:42] * Canis_Majoris was kicked by darkie (stop being disagreeable)
- [16:42] <bugmaniacbob> oh god I'm getting deja vu from aurumoth
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- [16:42] <bugmaniacbob> ...
- 01[16:42] <@darkie> mibbit
- [16:42] <&Birkal> can we make a mon with sticky web
- [16:42] <&Birkal> that can use it
- [16:43] <bugmaniacbob> ok DHR that's two for fog
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- [16:43] <srk1214> lol Birkal being sensible
- [16:43] <bugmaniacbob> do we have approval to proceed?
- 01[16:43] <@darkie> sticky web is cool too
- [16:43] <imanalt> a good sticky webber would be great
- [16:43] <Canis_Majoris> so galvantula @birkal
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- [16:43] <bugmaniacbob> oh for the love of
- 01[16:43] <@darkie> can i change my vote to sticky web
- [16:43] <imanalt> galvantula is bad Canis_Majoris
- [16:43] <imanalt> ;-;
- [16:43] <&Birkal> no galvantula is stupid
- [16:43] <bugmaniacbob> FINE STICKY BLOODY WEB
- [16:43] <&Birkal> I am talking something like
- [16:43] <Canis_Majoris> galvantula is a good mon what are you on
- [16:43] <Eagle4> is their a piratepad for this
- [16:43] <&Birkal> it sets up with sticky web
- [16:43] <Eagle4> there*
- [16:43] <bugmaniacbob> IT'LL BE A BUG SO WIN-WIN
- [16:43] <%DHR> Haha
- [16:43] <&Birkal> and then as mons switch in, it's now faster
- [16:43] <imanalt> lol
- [16:43] <%DHR> Im going to have to go to bed
- [16:43] <&Birkal> and it just decimates
- [16:43] <srk1214> bugmaniacbob, how are you at drawing things that produce sticky webs... I think they're called bugs?
- 01[16:43] <@darkie> thats a good idea birkal
- [16:43] <Canis_Majoris> so.... galvantula as a sweeper?
- [16:43] <Eagle4> what's the concept?
- [16:43] <&Birkal> of course it's a good idea
- 01[16:44] <@darkie> sticky web
- [16:44] <&Birkal> I'm a genius B)
- [16:44] <Canis_Majoris> that's
- [16:44] <imanalt> birkal problem is they would presumably switch in the turn you set sticky web
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> well I wouldn't call myself an /expert/
- [16:44] <srk1214> Sticky Web mon gogo
- [16:44] <Canis_Majoris> actually not a bad idea
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> more of a
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> maniac
- [16:44] <Eagle4> ehhh
- [16:44] <imanalt> so not get hit on the switch
- [16:44] <Canis_Majoris> it forces bug but ehhhhh
- [16:44] <imanalt> why does ti force bug
- [16:44] <&Birkal> why does it force bug
- [16:44] <imanalt> fuk that
- [16:44] <&Birkal> why in the world does it force bug
- 01[16:44] <@darkie> it doesnt force bug
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> how about sticky web + fog
- [16:44] <srk1214> we can go bug/whatever we want or not even bug
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> because
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> because
- [16:44] <Canis_Majoris> what else can use sticky web tho :<
- 01[16:44] <@darkie> "web" can be abstract
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> why would you do anything else
- 01[16:44] <@darkie> porygon2
- 13[16:44] <Canis_Majoris> darkie don't go there
- [16:44] <bugmaniacbob> whyyyy
- [16:44] <&Birkal> this is cap, you imbecelic numbnut
- [16:44] <&Birkal> sorry that got heated wow
- [16:44] <imanalt> lol
- [16:44] <Canis_Majoris> ...porygon2 can use sticky web?
- [16:44] <srk1214> lol
- 01[16:44] <@darkie> sticky interweb
- [16:44] <Eagle4> we need a piratepad for this :/
- [16:44] <Canis_Majoris> wat
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> no it cant
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> but
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> it could
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> if you stretch the name
- [16:45] <Canis_Majoris> hmmm
- [16:45] <Canis_Majoris> you know what?
- [16:45] <bugmaniacbob> shall we just
- [16:45] <Canis_Majoris> sure why not
- [16:45] <srk1214> sticky web could be anything. this is pokemon.
- [16:45] <Eagle4> http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> and you can change the name anyway
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> it could be ejaculate
- [16:45] <bugmaniacbob> get on with it
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> who cares what itis
- 06[16:45] * &Birkal slap eagle4's wrists
- [16:45] <&Birkal> you did a bad thing
- [16:45] <&Birkal> #cap > piratepated
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> ok do we agree
- [16:45] <Eagle4> ;_;
- 01[16:45] <@darkie> on the sticky web
- [16:45] <bugmaniacbob> wait who is TL now
- [16:45] <srk1214> sticky web is good, if DHR is still around
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> idk dhr is being afk
- [16:46] <Eagle4> this is a cesspool of muddled comments
- [16:46] <&Birkal> I am always secretly the TL
- [16:46] <Eagle4> piratepad is better
- [16:46] <Eagle4> ;_;
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> dhr are you here
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> if not i'll take over
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> or birkal
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> or bmb
- [16:46] <&Birkal> not me
- [16:46] <srk1214> or me
- [16:46] <&Birkal> I won't have time to do it
- [16:46] <srk1214> jesus
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> ok not birkal
- 13[16:46] <srk1214> darkie leaving me out of this
- [16:46] <srk1214> dick move
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> anyone
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> ok
- [16:46] <&Birkal> I'm just saying sticky web rules
- 01[16:46] <@darkie> he's not here
- [16:46] <bugmaniacbob> well only us two have experience in these matters, grasshopper
- [16:47] <bugmaniacbob> and birkal I guess is just that good
- [16:47] <srk1214> only one of us has been around for the past two caps consecutively ;)
- 13[16:47] <%DHR> darkie go for it
- [16:47] <Eagle4> let's /not/ make sticky web mon
- [16:47] <%DHR> Imma have to go bed shortly
- [16:47] <imanalt> piratepad makes it easier to let newcomers figure out where were at
- 01[16:47] <@darkie> ok cool
- [16:47] <imanalt> we should discuss it itc put but things in the pad
- [16:47] <bugmaniacbob> only one of us has CAP contribs
- 01[16:47] <@darkie> let's go with the sticky web
- [16:47] <imanalt> when agreed upon
- [16:47] <Eagle4> let's make Stratagem-esque mon
- [16:47] <Eagle4> aka physical fairy
- [16:47] <bugmaniacbob> right so
- 13[16:47] <srk1214> lol darkie TL it is
- [16:47] <imanalt> sticky web seems reasonable
- [16:47] <bugmaniacbob> sticky web it is
- [16:47] <Eagle4> egad
- 13[16:47] <bugmaniacbob> lead on, master darkie
- [16:47] <imanalt> yes Eagle4 because its not like the best fairies in ou atm are physical
- 01[16:47] <@darkie> so shall we talk about the typing first
- [16:47] <Eagle4> shhh
- [16:47] <srk1214> BUG
- [16:47] <bugmaniacbob> BUG
- 01[16:48] <@darkie> actually
- [16:48] <bugmaniacbob> jynx
- 01[16:48] <@darkie> let's talk about the stats first
- [16:48] <Eagle4> BUG/PSYCHIC
- 01[16:48] <@darkie> since it's inherently based on the speed stat
- [16:48] <srk1214> ok stats.
- [16:48] <bugmaniacbob> Bug/fairy
- [16:48] <imanalt> something non sr weak seems helpful, because it is useful to be able to come back in and out and reset
- [16:48] <bugmaniacbob> good idea
- [16:48] <srk1214> I advocate a bulky and fast spread with low attacking prowess
- [16:48] <imanalt> look at how lando-t functions as a pivot with sr, that seems like a good webber
- 01[16:48] <@darkie> it can't be too fast
- [16:48] <Eagle4> has bug/ground been done before?
- [16:48] <bugmaniacbob> I disagree
- [16:48] <Eagle4> oh, on nincada
- [16:48] <srk1214> slower than galvantula, that is
- 01[16:48] <@darkie> i think around base 80 speed
- [16:48] <bugmaniacbob> slow and high bulk is the way to go
- [16:48] <srk1214> btu reasonably fast
- [16:48] <imanalt> why cant it be too fast
- [16:48] <&Birkal> I think just under 100 is good
- [16:49] <srk1214> !data galvantula
- 01[16:49] <@darkie> then whats the point of using sticky web
- [16:49] <TIBot> Galvantula - Bug/Electric | Compound Eyes/Unnerve/Swarm (H) | 70/77/60/97/60/108 | 472 BST | RU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 40 BP
- [16:49] <Eagle4> fast and high bulk and powerful imo
- [16:49] <imanalt> (lets give lando-t sticky web)
- [16:49] <bugmaniacbob> teammates
- [16:49] <srk1214> yeah I would have gone for 90ish probably
- 13[16:49] <imanalt> darkie as team support?
- [16:49] <Canis_Majoris> aren't we making this a mon that can sweep when sticky web is up?
- [16:49] <imanalt> who here votes we make lando-t
- [16:49] <&Birkal> it's not meant as team support necessarily
- 01[16:49] <@darkie> it's a mon that uses sticky web
- [16:49] <%DHR> Sorry guys, just.. not feeling it really today @_@ Very stressed out
- 01[16:49] <@darkie> to its own benefit
- [16:49] <imanalt> seriously though i like it being similar to it
- [16:49] <&Birkal> the concept is that it can sweep
- 01[16:49] <@darkie> its ok dhr
- [16:49] <Canis_Majoris> hmmm
- [16:49] <bugmaniacbob> well you should have made that clear
- 13[16:49] <imanalt> darkie how does using sticky web directly benefit the user though
- 01[16:49] <@darkie> so it has to be relatively fast
- [16:49] <imanalt> in the longterm i guess it does...
- [16:49] <bugmaniacbob> ok then it should be hyper offensive
- 01[16:49] <@darkie> with roar/whirlwind
- 01[16:49] <@darkie> OR
- [16:49] <Canis_Majoris> bulky + attacker while slow
- [16:49] <Canis_Majoris> imo
- [16:49] <srk1214> I disagree
- [16:50] <Canis_Majoris> needs to be able to set up sticky web at the very least
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> slow/fast is subjective
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> use number
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> s
- [16:50] <srk1214> if it's using sticky web, it needs to be able to do stuff with 3 slots
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> 80-90 seems good
- [16:50] <bugmaniacbob> 85
- [16:50] <Canis_Majoris> ^
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> or
- [16:50] <srk1214> and it's not going to sweep with 3 slots
- [16:50] <bugmaniacbob> Heracross number
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> sticky web/roar/stab 1/ stab 2
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> where stab 1 and stab 2 hit almost everything
- [16:50] <bugmaniacbob> actually it should outrun talonflame
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- [16:50] <imanalt> roar isnt worthwhile... its just not a verygood move :/
- [16:50] <bugmaniacbob> what does that give us
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> you mean
- [16:50] <imanalt> especially for an offense mon
- 01[16:50] <@darkie> after a sticky web?
- [16:51] <&Birkal> talonflame isn't affected by sticky web
- [16:51] <bugmaniacbob> yeah
- [16:51] <&Birkal> it has wings
- [16:51] <imanalt> lol
- 01[16:51] <@darkie> fuck
- 01[16:51] <@darkie> new move
- [16:51] <imanalt> flap flap
- [16:51] <bugmaniacbob> oh right so it isn't
- 01[16:51] <@darkie> that hits everything
- 01[16:51] <@darkie> lol
- [16:51] <bugmaniacbob> give it gravity
- 01[16:51] <@darkie> actually i can't be TL for this
- [16:51] <imanalt> rock type sticky web that also does damage based on type yn
- [16:51] <&Birkal> lol sure, new move, let's do it
- 01[16:51] <@darkie> i have to go soon too
- [16:51] <bugmaniacbob> also make it utterly untouchable by talonflame
- [16:51] <imanalt> seriously though
- [16:51] <imanalt> why not just make it beat talonflame 1v1
- [16:51] <bugmaniacbob> great I'll take your place
- [16:51] <bugmaniacbob> this'll be a bug-type, moving on
- [16:51] <imanalt> i really like giving it a type so it can threaten most common ground immune mons
- [16:51] <imanalt> thus making sticky web better
- [16:51] <srk1214> bmb, i object to you leading this project for bug bias
- 03[16:51] * darkie sets mode: +h bugmaniacbob
- [16:51] <%bugmaniacbob> no seriously this needs to beat ground-immunes
- 01[16:52] <@darkie> there
- [16:52] <%bugmaniacbob> so no bug
- [16:52] <imanalt> so hwo about a rock type o.o
- [16:52] <srk1214> I shall be taking this on. I'm not going anywhere and I have nothing to do tonight.
- 13[16:52] <%bugmaniacbob> oh thanks darkie
- [16:52] <imanalt> although rock leaves us unfortunately open to rotom-w
- [16:52] <imanalt> :/
- 01[16:52] <@darkie> bmb is the new TL
- [16:52] <imanalt> what the fuk types beat both rotom-w and talonflame
- [16:52] <imanalt> oO
- [16:52] <%bugmaniacbob> thank you very much
- [16:52] <&Birkal> make it at least electric
- 01[16:52] <@darkie> electric is good
- [16:52] <%bugmaniacbob> I will use this power wisely
- [16:52] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm
- [16:52] <srk1214> Electric/Bug, duh
- [16:52] <imanalt> electric says youre reliant on secondary resist to fire to beat talonflame though
- [16:52] <%bugmaniacbob> gliscor could be a problem
- [16:52] <Canis_Majoris> what if speed boost
- [16:52] <imanalt> gliscor isnt really particulalry relevant
- [16:53] <&Birkal> electric ground
- [16:53] <Canis_Majoris> ultimate speed modulator
- [16:53] <imanalt> what does ground do for it birka;
- [16:53] <%bugmaniacbob> electric/rock
- [16:53] <imanalt> other than make you lose to rotom-w
- 01[16:53] <@darkie> rock is weak to water
- [16:53] <%bugmaniacbob> eq weak hoorah
- [16:53] <&Birkal> let's you beat talonflame
- [16:53] <%bugmaniacbob> give it dry skin
- [16:53] <%bugmaniacbob> gg
- [16:53] <imanalt> rotom-w and talonflame are the two most common ground immune mons
- [16:53] <&Birkal> but I agree water weak is bad
- [16:53] <imanalt> how does it help you against talonflame
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- [16:53] <imanalt> ground doesnt resist fire...
- [16:53] <srk1214> Why are we concerned with losing to Rotom-W? just give this thing more speed than Rotom-W and not be weak to water or electric
- 01[16:53] <@darkie> !data rotom W
- [16:53] <TIBot> Rotom-Wash - Electric/Water | Levitate | 50/65/107/105/107/86 | 520 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 20 BP
- [16:53] <imanalt> yeah we can just outrun rotom-w
- [16:53] <imanalt> that works
- [16:53] <%bugmaniacbob> rotom can use scarf though
- [16:53] <srk1214> 90 speed
- [16:53] <%bugmaniacbob> and often does
- [16:53] <imanalt> rarely does nowadays
- [16:53] <imanalt> hasnt since bw1
- [16:53] <imanalt> lol
- 01[16:54] <@darkie> lets give our guy 90 speed
- [16:54] <%bugmaniacbob> that so?
- 01[16:54] <@darkie> i agree
- [16:54] <&Birkal> how about electric / fairy
- [16:54] <srk1214> why do we care about scarf rotom anyway? sticky web doesn't affect it
- [16:54] <imanalt> its almost exclusively bulky nowadays lol
- [16:54] <&Birkal> because fairy
- [16:54] <%bugmaniacbob> I could swear I'd seen more of then
- [16:54] <%bugmaniacbob> *them
- 01[16:54] <@darkie> i wouldnt mind electric fairy
- [16:54] <Eagle4> are we making a mon which uses sticky web
- [16:54] <%bugmaniacbob> right so everybody give their final suggestions for speed
- [16:54] <Eagle4> or a mon which gets affected by sticky web
- [16:54] <imanalt> 92
- 01[16:54] <@darkie> 90
- [16:54] <imanalt> fuck lando-t
- [16:54] <imanalt> i want to creep lando-t
- 01[16:54] <@darkie> ok
- 01[16:54] <@darkie> 92
- [16:54] <&Birkal> it uses it eagle
- [16:54] <Eagle4> ok
- [16:54] <srk1214> 87 min - 99 max
- 01[16:54] <@darkie> thats fine with me
- [16:54] <Eagle4> bye
- [16:54] <srk1214> don't care too much otherwise
- [16:55] <%bugmaniacbob> any objections to 92?
- [16:55] <&Birkal> no
- [16:55] <%bugmaniacbob> great
- [16:55] <%bugmaniacbob> progress
- [16:55] <&Birkal> can we pick typing now
- [16:55] <&Birkal> so I can get drawing
- [16:55] <imanalt> ok so now what sticky web immune mons are faster than 92 spe
- [16:55] <%bugmaniacbob> not so fast
- [16:55] <imanalt> *common ones
- 01[16:55] <@darkie> talonflame
- [16:55] <imanalt> gengar, talonflame
- 01[16:55] <@darkie> nothing hits both for se
- [16:55] <&Birkal> tr bronzong
- [16:55] <%bugmaniacbob> how common is non-mega gengar
- [16:55] <&Birkal> ;O
- 01[16:55] <@darkie> but lots hit neutral
- [16:56] <srk1214> pretty common bmb
- [16:56] <imanalt> if it hasnt mega evod previously its immune to web coming in though bugmaniacbob
- [16:56] <imanalt> and it is relatively common
- [16:56] <&Birkal> yeah we should look for a good defensive typing
- [16:56] <&Birkal> and a good offensive typing probably too, lol
- [16:56] <%bugmaniacbob> tsk, how annoying
- [16:56] <imanalt> ideally id like to beat gengar and talonflame at least on type
- [16:56] <imanalt> which is quite hard to do
- [16:56] <%bugmaniacbob> right, I think we've isolated our problems
- [16:56] <srk1214> I advise Electric/Dark
- [16:56] <%bugmaniacbob> do we want to beat both, or only one?
- [16:56] <imanalt> ttar type does both relatively well, although it doesnt like focus blast
- [16:56] <imanalt> both
- [16:56] <%bugmaniacbob> right then
- [16:57] <%bugmaniacbob> that makes everything more difficult
- [16:57] <imanalt> hm i like electric definitely, not sure if i like dark
- [16:57] <imanalt> although if were beating gar i suppose its dark or normal
- 01[16:57] <@darkie> is there an electric dark?
- [16:57] <srk1214> electric/normal exists
- [16:57] <%bugmaniacbob> both give FB weak
- [16:57] <srk1214> electric/dark does not
- [16:57] <imanalt> not that i can think of
- 01[16:57] <@darkie> i wouldnt mind dark
- [16:58] <imanalt> yeah elec/dark seems alright
- [16:58] <Numbuh214> hmm
- [16:58] <Canis_Majoris> o:
- 01[16:58] <@darkie> what about
- 01[16:58] <@darkie> water?
- [16:58] <Canis_Majoris> elec/dark
- [16:58] <imanalt> we just will want to make sure we can take a focus blast or flare blitz later
- 01[16:58] <@darkie> electric/water
- [16:58] <imanalt> since both hits relatively hard
- [16:58] <Canis_Majoris> are we doing this?
- 01[16:58] <@darkie> resists fire
- [16:58] <Numbuh214> what about rock/ghost?
- [16:58] <Canis_Majoris> no not again
- 13[16:58] <imanalt> wed need a lot of special bulk to take shadow balls then darkie
- [16:58] <Canis_Majoris> never again
- 01[16:58] <@darkie> oh thats true
- [16:58] <imanalt> 170 base satk shadow ball is strong as fuck
- [16:58] <&Birkal> electric / dark seems sensible
- [16:58] <srk1214> we already did a rock/ghost flash cap
- [16:58] <Numbuh214> oh okay
- 01[16:58] <@darkie> i'm fine with electric dark then
- [16:58] <Numbuh214> sorry for not being in the know
- [16:58] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm ok
- [16:59] <imanalt> elec/dark also lets us threaten both with stab which is useful
- [16:59] <srk1214> petrogeist I think it was called
- [16:59] <%bugmaniacbob> so all in favour of electric/dark say aye
- 01[16:59] <@darkie> i kind of want to make
- 01[16:59] <@darkie> AYE
- [16:59] <imanalt> aye
- 01[16:59] <@darkie> a new move
- [16:59] <srk1214> aye
- [16:59] <&Birkal> aye
- 01[16:59] <@darkie> priority whirlwind
- [16:59] <Numbuh214> aye
- [16:59] <%bugmaniacbob> that's four ayes
- [16:59] <%bugmaniacbob> five
- 01[16:59] <@darkie> wait does whirlwind work with gale wings
- [16:59] <srk1214> btw I wanted electric dark for malaconda, so this is my justice haha
- [16:59] <%bugmaniacbob> anyone not in favour?
- [16:59] <&Birkal> ok electric / dark with sticky web
- 13[16:59] <srk1214> gale wings is just +1 priority darkie
- [16:59] <&Birkal> I'll get doodling
- 13[16:59] <Numbuh214> no, darkie
- [16:59] <%bugmaniacbob> nope
- [16:59] <Numbuh214> !data whirlwind
- [16:59] <TIBot> Whirlwind - Normal | Status | Power: -- | Accuracy: --% | Max PP: 32 | Forces the target to switch to a random ally.
- [16:59] <Numbuh214> even if it did
- [16:59] <Numbuh214> it'd be like
- [17:00] <%bugmaniacbob> right then
- [17:00] <Numbuh214> -5 as opposed to -6
- 01[17:00] <@darkie> ok
- [17:00] <%bugmaniacbob> special attacker or physical attacker
- [17:00] <%bugmaniacbob> ?
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- [17:00] <%bugmaniacbob> or mixed I guess but they suck
- 01[17:00] <@darkie> hm
- [17:00] <srk1214> Birkal, and 92 speed if that helps
- 01[17:00] <@darkie> yeah not mixed
- [17:00] <imanalt> i would lean special because im not a big fan of reliance on recoil moves
- 01[17:00] <@darkie> !data talonflame
- [17:00] <TIBot> Talonflame - Fire/Flying | Flame Body/Gale Wings (H) | 78/81/71/74/69/126 | 499 BST | Limbo | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 40 BP
- [17:00] <imanalt> which electric physical stab always is
- 01[17:00] <@darkie> special is fine with me
- [17:00] <%bugmaniacbob> special also gets you tail glow
- [17:00] <srk1214> with dark special stab always is bad too though
- [17:00] <imanalt> i dont think we need all that much power though
- 01[17:00] <@darkie> i'll brb
- [17:00] <imanalt> so is dark physicla stab
- 01[17:00] <@darkie> next class
- [17:00] <Numbuh214> yeah, there's nothing between wild charge and thunderpunch
- [17:00] <imanalt> crunch and dark pulse are a wash
- [17:00] <Numbuh214> and that's upsetting
- [17:01] <srk1214> although dark stab isn't bad anymore
- [17:01] <srk1214> since steel isn't a resist
- [17:01] <imanalt> yeah its a great attacking type
- [17:01] <%bugmaniacbob> dark physical stab is pretty dreadful
- [17:01] <%bugmaniacbob> power-wise
- [17:01] <srk1214> just fighting/dark/fairy as resists
- [17:01] <Numbuh214> i think special wins by default
- [17:01] <imanalt> dark stab for either is bugmaniacbob
- [17:01] <%bugmaniacbob> I know
- 01[17:01] <@darkie> yeah brb
- [17:01] <%bugmaniacbob> damn typecasting
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- [17:10] <imanalt> alternative:
- 01[17:10] <darkie> ok i'm back what was decided
- [17:10] <imanalt> what if we made it really strong
- [17:10] <%bugmaniacbob> well, sticky web has multiple applications
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- [17:10] <imanalt> but denied it tg
- [17:10] <Numbuh214> yeah
- [17:10] <Numbuh214> it kinda needs NATURAL power
- [17:10] <imanalt> then we can give it a coverage move and it will still run web
- [17:10] <srk1214> yeah tail glow isn't going to work with sticky web
- [17:10] <%bugmaniacbob> it's decided that it's electric/dark with 115 SpA and 92 Spe
- [17:10] <imanalt> yeah
- [17:10] <srk1214> never be run on the same set
- [17:10] <imanalt> uh
- 01[17:10] <@darkie> !recapc
- [17:10] <%bugmaniacbob> and then we realised it wouldn't work
- [17:10] <Numbuh214> because unless you have prankster
- [17:10] <srk1214> 115 SpA may be too low
- [17:10] <imanalt> satk isnt decided i didnt hink...
- [17:10] <Numbuh214> or high defense
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- [17:10] <srk1214> !data tornadus
- [17:10] <TIBot> Tornadus - Flying | Prankster/Defiant (H) | 79/115/70/125/80/111 | 580 BST | UU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 80 BP
- [17:11] <imanalt> im thinking more the 125-150 range satk
- [17:11] <srk1214> !data tornadus-t
- [17:11] <imanalt> which is a very big range but
- [17:11] <TIBot> Tornadus-Therian - Flying | Regenerator | 79/100/80/110/90/121 | 580 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 80 BP
- [17:11] <%bugmaniacbob> how about
- [17:11] <%bugmaniacbob> we give it a mega evolution
- [17:11] <Numbuh214> you don't run two non-attacking moves too often
- [17:11] <srk1214> ok. yeah. I'd push it up to 125-130
- 01[17:11] <@darkie> lol
- [17:11] <imanalt> 130 is still not that strong for ou
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- 01[17:11] <@darkie> did we decide anything bugmaniacbob?
- 13[17:11] <imanalt> not really darkie
- [17:11] <%bugmaniacbob> well, we're kinda going back over it again
- 01[17:11] <@darkie> oh ok
- [17:11] <Numbuh214> hmmmmm
- [17:11] <srk1214> electric / dark, 92 speed, sticky web
- 01[17:11] <@darkie> ok
- [17:11] <Numbuh214> a mega evo
- [17:11] <%bugmaniacbob> we had a few ideas, and they don't really work together
- [17:11] <srk1214> deciding on SpA
- [17:12] <%bugmaniacbob> setting up alongside sticky web doesn't seem to work
- 01[17:12] <@darkie> well if it's supposed to sweep with only a sticky web
- 01[17:12] <@darkie> then the atk stat needs to be pretty high
- [17:12] <srk1214> do we think it needs Haxorus level prowess?
- [17:12] <Numbuh214> that's why i thought sheer force
- [17:12] <imanalt> exactly
- 01[17:12] <@darkie> or have an ability that helps it do damage
- 01[17:12] <@darkie> huge power
- 01[17:12] <@darkie> lol
- [17:12] <%bugmaniacbob> sheer force may not be such a bad idea
- [17:12] <imanalt> sheer force is good
- [17:12] <imanalt> i like encouraging lo
- 01[17:12] <@darkie> !data sheer force
- [17:12] <TIBot> Sheer Force: This Pokemon's attacks with secondary effects do 1.3x damage; nullifies the effects.
- [17:12] <Numbuh214> hm
- [17:12] <imanalt> how much power /do/ we need wiht sheer force though
- 01[17:12] <@darkie> sounds good to me
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- [17:13] <srk1214> is 115 too high with sheer force though?
- [17:13] <imanalt> i dont have agoo dintuitive grasp of how much power it really is
- [17:13] <%bugmaniacbob> well
- [17:13] <imanalt> probably srk1214 although let me run some calcs before i commit
- [17:13] <srk1214> to the calculator I go
- 01[17:13] <@darkie> i think
- [17:13] <%bugmaniacbob> darmanitan isn't particularly broken
- [17:13] <srk1214> brb
- [17:13] <%bugmaniacbob> or rampardos
- [17:13] <Numbuh214> well
- 01[17:13] <@darkie> alakazam + LO is stronger than mega kazam
- 01[17:13] <@darkie> because of LO
- [17:13] <Numbuh214> those are physical
- 01[17:13] <@darkie> !data alakazam
- [17:13] <TIBot> Alakazam - Psychic | Synchronize/Inner Focus/Magic Guard (H) | 55/50/45/135/95/120 | 500 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 60 BP
- 01[17:13] <@darkie> !data mega alakazam
- [17:13] <TIBot> Mega Alakazam - Psychic | Trace | 55/50/65/175/95/150 | 590 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 60 BP
- 01[17:13] <@darkie> so it seems to be worth a lot
- [17:14] <%bugmaniacbob> that's a crisp 40 BS then
- [17:14] <srk1214> 252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force (custom) Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 149-177 (42.32 - 50.28%)
- 01[17:14] <@darkie> so maybe like
- 01[17:14] <@darkie> 110 or 115 with sheer force
- [17:14] <srk1214> higher or lower? that's 115 SpA
- [17:14] <imanalt> 115 is A LOT
- 01[17:14] <@darkie> 105?
- [17:14] <&jas61292> What are we talking about now? Stats?
- [17:14] <srk1214> do we want to ~2hko ferrothorn with spikes etc?
- [17:14] <%bugmaniacbob> well do we want it to 2HKO ferro?
- 01[17:14] <@darkie> sp attack
- [17:15] <srk1214> with just dark pulse?
- [17:15] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm
- [17:15] <&jas61292> Better question: what do we have so far?
- [17:15] <%bugmaniacbob> would we give it fire attacks as well?
- [17:15] <Numbuh214> it could kill ferro either way
- [17:15] <Numbuh214> HP fire
- [17:15] <%bugmaniacbob> electric/dark, 92 Spe
- [17:15] <%bugmaniacbob> sticky web
- [17:15] <srk1214> http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w
- [17:15] <%bugmaniacbob> specially inclined
- [17:15] <srk1214> this is for summaries
- [17:15] <imanalt> i actually like
- [17:15] <%bugmaniacbob> good idea
- [17:15] <imanalt> moonblast
- [17:15] <imanalt> rather than fire attacks
- [17:16] <imanalt> it also lets you hit things like ttar which can laugh at special electric moves
- [17:16] <&Birkal> ugh
- [17:16] <&Birkal> I am not really happy with this at all
- [17:16] <imanalt> while still hitting resists for neutral or better
- [17:16] <imanalt> most of them for se
- 01[17:16] <@darkie> why not birkal
- [17:16] <&Birkal> find another artist, but I think using the internet as your web for electric is a fun idea
- [17:16] <&Birkal> http://i.imgur.com/cXmzOBr.png
- 01[17:16] <@darkie> o
- 01[17:16] <@darkie> hahah
- [17:16] <srk1214> I like the direction!
- 01[17:16] <@darkie> terminalmon
- [17:16] <imanalt> lol
- [17:16] <&Birkal> I am just not feeling artsy atm
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- [17:16] <%bugmaniacbob> neat
- [17:16] <srk1214> wait birkal
- [17:16] <srk1214> did you by any chance play neopets?
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> MAYBE
- [17:17] <&Birkal> no
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> just one big plug
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> it plugs into pokemon upon switch in
- [17:17] <%bugmaniacbob> isn't that elekid
- [17:17] <Numbuh214> hmm
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> no i mean like
- [17:17] <Numbuh214> i like the concept of something like
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> coming out from the back
- [17:17] <%bugmaniacbob> also have to be a UK plug
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> like dr. octopus style
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> and
- [17:17] <Numbuh214> overload from teen titans
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> actually
- [17:17] <%bugmaniacbob> earth++
- 01[17:17] <@darkie> it should be an ethernet cord
- [17:18] <%bugmaniacbob> anybody remember etemon from digimon
- [17:18] <%bugmaniacbob> DARK NETWORK
- [17:18] <srk1214> Birkal, http://thedailyneopets.com/uploads/bp/new-battledome-1.png
- [17:18] <%bugmaniacbob> anyway
- [17:18] <&Birkal> lol
- [17:18] <%bugmaniacbob> slightly distracted aren't we
- [17:18] <&Birkal> here lemme toy with something else
- [17:18] <&Birkal> you guys get back to it
- [17:18] <%bugmaniacbob> shall we press on
- [17:18] <imanalt> anyways yeah
- 01[17:18] <@darkie> hm
- 01[17:18] <@darkie> its kind of like
- 01[17:18] <@darkie> porygonZ
- 01[17:18] <@darkie> in that it's a virus
- [17:18] <srk1214> so is 115 SpA too high?
- [17:18] <%bugmaniacbob> 115 - higher or lower?
- 01[17:18] <@darkie> i think its fine
- [17:18] <%bugmaniacbob> I really don't think it's too high
- [17:19] <%bugmaniacbob> depends on the defensive stats, really
- [17:19] <srk1214> if we are giving coverage, it should go no higher
- [17:19] <%bugmaniacbob> right, let's say 115 for now, and come back if we change our minds
- [17:19] <%bugmaniacbob> now then
- [17:19] <imanalt> 115 sounds reasonable
- [17:19] <%bugmaniacbob> do we want to make this thing mixed
- [17:19] <imanalt> plenty of things can take a hit from that
- [17:19] <imanalt> no
- [17:19] <%bugmaniacbob> alright
- [17:19] <%bugmaniacbob> we'll save attack for a round BST
- 01[17:19] <@darkie> if you split the rest of the stats
- [17:19] <srk1214> I could live with like 80 attack lol
- 01[17:19] <@darkie> it's
- 01[17:19] <@darkie> 83.25
- [17:19] <srk1214> max
- [17:20] <%bugmaniacbob> defensive stats
- [17:20] <%bugmaniacbob> what are we thinking
- 01[17:20] <@darkie> 83/83/83/115/83/92
- 01[17:20] <@darkie> doesnt seem too strong
- [17:20] <srk1214> ok I want physical defense
- [17:20] <imanalt> i want more bulk than 83
- 01[17:20] <@darkie> yeah
- [17:20] <srk1214> we deserve to do decently ok against Scizor
- 01[17:20] <@darkie> it has to take a talonflame
- 01[17:20] <@darkie> hit
- [17:20] <%bugmaniacbob> yup
- [17:20] <srk1214> we resist bullet punch after all
- [17:20] <srk1214> also talonflame
- [17:20] <imanalt> i think it needs to be able to take a talonflame flare blitz + bb
- [17:20] <%bugmaniacbob> we should also be able to take a breloom mach punch
- [17:20] <%bugmaniacbob> if it comes to it
- [17:21] <%bugmaniacbob> calcs time
- [17:21] <srk1214> 252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def (custom): 115-136 (37.09 - 43.87%)
- 01[17:21] <@darkie> is breloom jolly or adamant
- [17:21] <srk1214> this is with 100/80 defenses
- 01[17:21] <@darkie> is that with resist
- 01[17:21] <@darkie> :o
- [17:21] <srk1214> yes
- [17:21] <srk1214> scizor hits HARD
- 01[17:21] <@darkie> damn
- [17:21] <Numbuh214> hey
- [17:21] <srk1214> breloom's LO Mach Punch ohkos uninvested 100/80
- [17:21] <Numbuh214> how about we put
- [17:22] <Numbuh214> the extra .25's
- 01[17:22] <@darkie> what about 80/100
- [17:22] <Numbuh214> into HP
- [17:22] <imanalt> 252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def (custom): 229-273 (71.33 - 85.04%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock thats 90/115
- 01[17:22] <@darkie> that would be more physically defensive
- [17:22] <%bugmaniacbob> Mach Punch: 75.36 - 89.14%
- [17:22] <imanalt> if i drop to 90/110 it ohkos with sr
- [17:22] <imanalt> or can
- [17:22] <imanalt> not always obviously
- [17:22] <srk1214> 90/115 is rather high imo :/
- [17:22] <%bugmaniacbob> this is for jolly lo loom against 100/100
- 01[17:22] <@darkie> not 100 hp
- [17:22] <imanalt> if we want to realistically take mach punch thats what were looking at
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- [17:22] <%bugmaniacbob> that's a benchmark
- 01[17:22] <@darkie> 95 hp and 105 def
- [17:23] <srk1214> is breloom really that big of a problem? I barely see it
- [17:23] <imanalt> loom usage has decreased but not /that/ much
- [17:23] <%bugmaniacbob> well that's not the point really
- [17:23] <&Birkal> what are stats like on this
- [17:23] <&Birkal> is it bulky?
- [17:23] <imanalt> thats what were discussing atm
- [17:23] <srk1214> we want physical bulk for scizor and talonflame
- [17:23] <&Birkal> ok
- 01[17:23] <@darkie> we're thinking physical bulk
- [17:23] <%bugmaniacbob> point is "what kind of bulkiness do we want to be hitting?"
- [17:24] <%bugmaniacbob> breloom is an example. If we use it, we find an area
- [17:24] <%bugmaniacbob> inevitably the entire matter is academic
- [17:24] <imanalt> fwiw loom can ohko 80/100 without sr but needs sr to ever ohko 80/105, which seems to be kinda the area people are thinking?
- [17:24] <%bugmaniacbob> I highly doubt this thing could survive residual damage sufficiently to be able to survive in practice
- 01[17:24] <@darkie> 252+ Atk Life Orb (custom) Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def (custom): 196-231 (59.21 - 69.78%)
- 01[17:24] <@darkie> talonflame
- 01[17:25] <@darkie> unless talonflame runs jolly?
- 01[17:25] <@darkie> idk
- 13[17:25] <imanalt> to what stats darkie
- [17:25] <%bugmaniacbob> what HP/Def is that
- [17:25] <imanalt> it runs adamant
- 01[17:25] <@darkie> 95/105
- [17:25] <imanalt> usually sharp beak > lo tho
- [17:25] <srk1214> yeah seriously trying to live through breloom is silly
- [17:25] <imanalt> how much does bb do there
- [17:25] <srk1214> this guy is prone to all entry hazards
- [17:25] <%bugmaniacbob> exactly
- [17:25] <srk1214> and is going to take damage while setting up sticky web
- 01[17:25] <@darkie> sharp beak does252+ Atk (custom) Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def (custom): 151-178 (45.61 - 53.77%)
- 01[17:25] <@darkie> and
- 01[17:25] <@darkie> rave Bird: 27.19 - 32.32%
- 01[17:25] <@darkie> B
- [17:25] <%bugmaniacbob> but I think 80/105 - 90/110 is the sort of area we want here
- [17:25] <%bugmaniacbob> bulky but not overbearingly so
- [17:25] <srk1214> sharp beak is the better item yeah
- [17:26] <imanalt> i dont think we ever want to be 2hkod by talonflame bb+blitz
- [17:26] <imanalt> after sr
- [17:26] <srk1214> I agree with that
- [17:26] <imanalt> so youre looking at darkies being mostly a minimum, seeing at thats 86.09% max
- 01[17:26] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[17:26] <@darkie> you're left with 1.2%
- 01[17:26] <@darkie> with 95/105
- [17:26] <srk1214> I'd rather go for low HP, high Def so we can have a weak point at SpDef
- [17:26] <imanalt> i prefer slightly lower hp and higher def tbh
- 01[17:26] <@darkie> i'm down with 90/110
- 01[17:26] <@darkie> i agree srk
- [17:26] <%bugmaniacbob> I take it we still have sheer force, so no LO recoil?
- [17:27] <%bugmaniacbob> or has that changed in XY
- 01[17:27] <@darkie> 90/110?
- 01[17:27] <@darkie> 90/110 has 45.17 - 53.58% from FB
- 01[17:27] <@darkie> and 27.1 - 31.77%
- 01[17:27] <@darkie> from adamant sharp beak talonflame
- [17:27] <imanalt> what does 85/110 take
- [17:27] <jukain> same bmb
- [17:27] <%bugmaniacbob> good good
- [17:27] <srk1214> 65/132 is roughly equivalent to 90/110
- [17:28] <jukain> also um just out of wonder
- 01[17:28] <@darkie> 46.62 - 55.3 from FB on 85/110
- 01[17:28] <@darkie> and 27.97 - 32.79% from BB
- [17:28] <jukain> are you doing move/items/abilities for gen 6?
- 01[17:28] <@darkie> sharp beak
- [17:28] <imanalt> hm
- [17:28] <jukain> or is someone else
- [17:28] <%bugmaniacbob> who me?
- [17:28] <imanalt> so 85/110 isnt happening
- 01[17:28] <@darkie> 90/110
- 01[17:28] <@darkie> imo
- 01[17:28] <@darkie> or something with more defense/less hp
- [17:28] <imanalt> could look at 85/115 or 90/110
- 01[17:28] <@darkie> i'm fine with either
- [17:28] <%bugmaniacbob> well Oglemi is in charge, and I've offered to help given my experience in the topic
- [17:29] <imanalt> id go 85/115 but w/e
- 01[17:29] <@darkie> yeah
- [17:29] <srk1214> I'd push the def up and hp down
- [17:29] <imanalt> no big difference
- [17:29] <jukain> ok
- 01[17:29] <@darkie> 115 imo
- [17:29] <%bugmaniacbob> we'll see what happens
- [17:29] <srk1214> though I guess even 85 HP isn't that high
- [17:29] <imanalt> 85 hp is fairly average yeah
- 01[17:29] <@darkie> so
- [17:29] <jukain> just wondering what's going on
- [17:29] <%bugmaniacbob> right then
- [17:29] <jukain> cool~
- 01[17:29] <@darkie> 85/x/115/115/x/92
- 01[17:29] <@darkie> are we in agreement?
- [17:29] <srk1214> yeah
- [17:29] <imanalt> ... is it bad i want to say 92 hp for symmetry
- [17:29] <%bugmaniacbob> what a nicely symmetrical thing
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- 01[17:29] <@darkie> lol
- [17:29] <%bugmaniacbob> ouch ninja'd
- [17:30] <srk1214> 407 BST already
- [17:30] <%bugmaniacbob> screw attack and lol SpD
- 01[17:30] <@darkie> i like 540 as a BST
- [17:30] <imanalt> hm
- [17:30] <srk1214> I would advise a max of 130 in the remaining 2
- [17:30] <imanalt> what if we drop to 83 hp
- [17:30] <%bugmaniacbob> give it 10 Attack and 50 SpD
- [17:30] <%bugmaniacbob> conservative CAP
- [17:30] <imanalt> then we get a cute multiple of 5 overall without fucking other numbers, and i think shoudl stil live
- 01[17:30] <@darkie> let me see calc
- [17:30] <%bugmaniacbob> we can get that by screwing with Attack
- [17:31] <%bugmaniacbob> since Attack has no bearing on anything
- [17:31] <srk1214> I think we should live a (regular) Gengar Sludge Bomb so that it has to attempt focus miss
- [17:31] <imanalt> true
- 01[17:31] <@darkie> 47.07 - 55.84%)
- [17:31] <imanalt> and bb?
- 01[17:31] <@darkie> fuck i pressed backspace
- 01[17:31] <@darkie> gimme a sec
- [17:32] <srk1214> 252 SpA Gengar Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 211-249 (75.35 - 88.92%) - with 85/80
- 01[17:32] <@darkie> (45.12 - 53.57%) FB
- [17:32] <imanalt> hm probably want to live even after sr
- [17:32] <%bugmaniacbob> risk of OHKO with SR
- 01[17:32] <@darkie> 27.27 - 32.14%
- 01[17:32] <@darkie> BB
- [17:32] <imanalt> 85/85 could work
- 01[17:32] <@darkie> i forgot to change to 115
- 01[17:32] <@darkie> that's 83/115
- 01[17:32] <@darkie> btw
- [17:32] <%bugmaniacbob> residual damage is nasty
- [17:32] <srk1214> are we doing 83 HP
- [17:32] <imanalt> idk
- 01[17:32] <@darkie> i'm fine with 83
- [17:32] <imanalt> i kinda like it
- [17:32] <srk1214> 83/85 probably lives through SR
- [17:32] <imanalt> 83/85 shoudl ive through sr
- [17:33] <srk1214> 252 SpA Gengar Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 199-235 (72.1 - 85.14%) yes
- [17:33] <%bugmaniacbob> check just in case
- 01[17:33] <@darkie> wait
- 01[17:33] <@darkie> 83/115 doesn't survive
- 01[17:33] <@darkie> bb+fb+sr
- 01[17:33] <@darkie> by like
- [17:33] <imanalt> wat
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- 01[17:33] <@darkie> .3%
- [17:33] <imanalt> !calc 53.57+32.14
- [17:33] <srk1214> lol that 85.71
- 01[17:33] <@darkie> thats with 4 hp evs too
- 01[17:33] <@darkie> lol
- [17:34] <imanalt> 85.71 we live sr
- [17:34] <imanalt> !
- [17:34] <srk1214> ohw does it not live?
- [17:34] <%bugmaniacbob> can we just leave it at 85/115
- 01[17:34] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[17:34] <@darkie> 85/115 is fine
- [17:34] <%bugmaniacbob> it's not that big a deal
- 01[17:34] <@darkie> fuck the attack stat
- [17:34] <imanalt> yh
- [17:34] <imanalt> 85/115/85 bulk sound good?
- [17:34] <srk1214> 85 HP
- 01[17:34] <@darkie> yeah
- [17:34] <%bugmaniacbob> great
- [17:35] <srk1214> yeah and Atk ends with a 3 or 8 to balance the speed
- 01[17:35] <@darkie> 48 attack
- 01[17:35] <@darkie> if we want base 540
- [17:35] <srk1214> sounds good
- [17:35] <imanalt> lol
- [17:35] <srk1214> 540 BST
- [17:35] <%bugmaniacbob> for reference, we have "Excellent" physical bulk
- [17:35] <imanalt> but
- [17:35] <imanalt> 53 attakc
- [17:35] <imanalt> because all bsts must be palindromes
- [17:35] <imanalt> :(
- [17:35] <srk1214> yeah but weak to ground and fighting.....
- 01[17:35] <@darkie> 85/48/115/115/85/92
- [17:35] <%bugmaniacbob> Good special bulk
- [17:35] <srk1214> we're no physical tank
- [17:36] <srk1214> and u-turn
- [17:36] <%bugmaniacbob> and Very Good special sweepiness
- [17:36] <%bugmaniacbob> y'know I think we should rename these categories but oh well
- 01[17:36] <@darkie> what
- 01[17:36] <@darkie> you don't like
- 01[17:36] <@darkie> "sweepiness"?
- 01[17:36] <@darkie> lol
- [17:36] <%bugmaniacbob> no not that
- [17:36] <%bugmaniacbob> I mean good -> very good -> excellent
- [17:36] <srk1214> yeah the very good etc is a weird system
- 01[17:36] <@darkie> god/very/good
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> my tpying is off today..
- [17:37] <imanalt> tbh 115/92 should be "below average"
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> tpying
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> tpying
- [17:37] <srk1214> anyway... 48 or 53
- [17:37] <imanalt> lmao
- [17:37] <srk1214> which do people want?
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> typing
- [17:37] <imanalt> 53
- [17:37] <%bugmaniacbob> well it isn't below average
- [17:37] <imanalt> palindromes pls
- [17:37] <%bugmaniacbob> it's below ou average
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> idc either way
- [17:37] <%bugmaniacbob> but not game average
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> 48 or 53
- [17:37] <imanalt> for ou it is bugmaniacbob which is all were really concerned about
- [17:37] <%bugmaniacbob> yes but
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> its in consequential
- [17:37] <srk1214> 48 gives 540 BST, 53, 545
- [17:37] <%bugmaniacbob> bsr formula uses every pokemon in the game
- [17:37] <jukain> 115/92 isnt below ou average
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> i vote 540
- [17:37] <jukain> its around the bulk of many pokemon
- [17:37] <%bugmaniacbob> um
- 01[17:37] <@darkie> thats special attack/speed
- [17:37] <%bugmaniacbob> sweeping stats jukain
- [17:38] <jukain> o
- [17:38] <jukain> lol
- [17:38] <imanalt> lol
- [17:38] <jukain> i am just dumb then
- [17:38] <jukain> ignore
- [17:38] <%bugmaniacbob> right then
- [17:38] <srk1214> what in OU has dump stats?
- [17:38] <%bugmaniacbob> all in favour of 48 say aye
- 01[17:38] <@darkie> AYE
- [17:38] <%bugmaniacbob> aye
- [17:38] <srk1214> are dump stats generally 40s or 50s?
- [17:38] <imanalt> 50 seems more accurate
- [17:38] <&jas61292> that would actually be probably way above average if it was bulk
- [17:38] <srk1214> !data scizor
- [17:38] <TIBot> Scizor - Bug/Steel | Swarm/Technician/Light Metal (H) | 70/130/100/55/80/65 | 500 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 100 BP
- [17:38] <imanalt> !data skarmory
- [17:38] <%bugmaniacbob> 54321 ok motion passed
- [17:38] <TIBot> Skarmory - Steel/Flying | Keen Eye/Sturdy/Weak Armor (H) | 65/80/140/40/70/70 | 465 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 80 BP
- [17:38] <imanalt> lol
- [17:38] <&jas61292> Depends on the Pokemon
- [17:38] <srk1214> meh seems both are fine
- [17:38] <srk1214> ok 48 it is
- [17:38] <imanalt> oof bmb no 53
- [17:38] <imanalt> :(
- [17:38] <imanalt> 48 is fine tho lel
- [17:38] <%bugmaniacbob> too late
- [17:38] <&jas61292> !data darmanitan
- [17:38] <TIBot> Darmanitan - Fire | Sheer Force/Zen Mode (H) | 105/140/55/30/55/95 | 480 BST | UU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 80 BP
- 01[17:39] <@darkie> lol 30
- [17:39] <imanalt> dat 30
- [17:39] <&jas61292> love those stats
- [17:39] <imanalt> !data haxorus
- [17:39] <TIBot> Haxorus - Dragon | Rivalry/Mold Breaker/Unnerve (H) | 76/147/90/60/70/97 | 540 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 100 BP
- [17:39] <&jas61292> two 55s and a 30
- [17:39] <imanalt> oh its 60
- [17:39] <imanalt> huh
- [17:39] <srk1214> bmb if you want, put in the BSRs here: http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w
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- 01[17:39] <@darkie> now abilities?
- 01[17:39] <@darkie> i mena
- [17:39] <%bugmaniacbob> let's go then
- [17:39] <srk1214> sheer force was decided lol
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- 01[17:39] <@darkie> do we want a second ability/dw ability?
- [17:39] <srk1214> no?
- [17:39] <imanalt> lo
- [17:39] <%bugmaniacbob> sheer force / x / x
- [17:39] <imanalt> i dont see why wed want a secondary
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- [17:40] <imanalt> other than flaver
- [17:40] <%bugmaniacbob> cute charm
- [17:40] <%bugmaniacbob> gogogo
- [17:40] <&jas61292> Flavor!!
- 01[17:40] <@darkie> we can add a flavor ability
- 01[17:40] <@darkie> at the end
- [17:40] <imanalt> secondary ability: vcreate
- 01[17:40] <@darkie> how about that
- 13[17:40] <imanalt> im with darkie
- [17:40] <srk1214> we should wait for Birdkal's art for the flavor
- 01[17:40] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[17:40] <@darkie> agreed?
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- [17:41] <%bugmaniacbob> good idea
- [17:41] <%bugmaniacbob> right then, what's next on the shopping list
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> and lets make it a hidden ability so it doesnt fuck with imaginary breeders
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> movepool i guess
- [17:41] <srk1214> so that leaves moves
- [17:41] <%bugmaniacbob> moves, great
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> i have one
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> sticky web
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> :D
- [17:41] <srk1214> thunderbolt
- [17:41] <&jas61292> No. Too good
- [17:41] <srk1214> dark pulse
- [17:41] <%bugmaniacbob> Great, that's one
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> dark pulse
- [17:41] <&jas61292> clearly
- [17:41] <imanalt> movepool tbolt/dark pulse/sticky web
- [17:41] <%bugmaniacbob> Night Daze
- [17:41] <imanalt> do we need more
- [17:41] <%bugmaniacbob> power++
- [17:41] <srk1214> ok I'm gonna collect some moves on the Pad
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> whats' night daze
- [17:41] <&jas61292> eww
- 01[17:41] <@darkie> !data night daze
- [17:41] <imanalt> moon blast vs fire moves seems to be the next debate
- [17:41] <TIBot> Night Daze - Dark | Special | Power: 85 | Accuracy: 95% | Max PP: 16 | 40% chance to lower the target's accuracy by 1.
- [17:42] <srk1214> no night daze
- 01[17:42] <@darkie> meh
- [17:42] <imanalt> misses--
- [17:42] <&jas61292> Don't touch sig moves
- 01[17:42] <@darkie> dark pulse is good enough
- [17:42] <Numbuh214> hmmmmmm
- 01[17:42] <@darkie> thats a signature move?
- 01[17:42] <@darkie> whose?
- [17:42] <imanalt> zoroark
- [17:42] <&jas61292> Zoroark
- 01[17:42] <@darkie> o
- 01[17:42] <@darkie> we could have
- 01[17:42] <@darkie> knock off
- [17:42] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm
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- 01[17:42] <@darkie> nuzzle, thunderwave, thunder
- [17:43] <Numbuh214> hmmm
- [17:43] <&Birkal> http://i.imgur.com/zvQKROp.png
- [17:43] <srk1214> let's focus on the competitive moves right now so we can get it all on the pad list I'm making
- [17:43] <srk1214> and then we can submit movepools
- [17:43] <Numbuh214> would bug coverage do anything?
- 01[17:43] <@darkie> ok
- [17:43] <&Birkal> electric sapping pangolin
- [17:43] <Numbuh214> because
- [17:43] <imanalt> bug coverage could be interesting
- [17:43] <imanalt> but is only neutral on loom
- [17:43] <srk1214> so cute birkal
- 01[17:43] <@darkie> what about fire
- [17:43] <&Birkal> wtf everything I draw is cute
- [17:43] <imanalt> the big things that can take our stab moves seem to be specially defensive ttar, breloom
- [17:43] <&Birkal> >:[
- 01[17:43] <@darkie> hmm
- [17:43] <imanalt> i slightly prefer fairy to fire
- [17:43] <%bugmaniacbob> kyuttt
- [17:43] <&Birkal> what are stats
- [17:43] <srk1214> though idk about pangolin. sandshrew is a pangolin. can you make it more platypus-y?
- [17:43] <&jas61292> Should give it Steel Coverage
- [17:44] <%bugmaniacbob> http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w
- [17:44] <imanalt> if just because i think electric/fairy/dark is literally unresisted which is cute
- [17:44] <srk1214> platypi are cool
- [17:44] <&Birkal> sandshrew is a terrible pangolin
- 01[17:44] <@darkie> 85/48/115/85/115/92
- [17:44] <%bugmaniacbob> how about
- [17:44] <%bugmaniacbob> a velvet worm
- [17:44] <imanalt> 115 satk not sdef
- [17:44] <%bugmaniacbob> they actually do produce sticky webs
- 01[17:44] <@darkie> oh yeah
- [17:44] <&Birkal> why are its offensives terrible
- 01[17:44] <@darkie> thats what i meant
- [17:44] <&Birkal> @__@
- 01[17:44] <@darkie> no
- [17:44] <&jas61292> If I'm not mistaken, Electric/Dark/Steel is resisted only by itself
- [17:44] <&Birkal> oh lol
- 01[17:44] <@darkie> 115 sp attack
- [17:44] <imanalt> lol
- 13[17:44] <srk1214> darkie messed up
- [17:44] <srk1214> 115 SpA not SpD
- [17:44] <&Birkal> should I go with pangolin or computer guy or something else
- [17:44] <&Birkal> what do
- 01[17:45] <@darkie> hm
- [17:45] <%bugmaniacbob> velvet worm
- [17:45] <srk1214> oh and we're doing sheer force
- [17:45] <srk1214> if that helps
- [17:45] <srk1214> it'll hit hard lol
- [17:45] <&jas61292> So yeah, go go Flash Cannon
- 01[17:45] <@darkie> flash cannon sounds good
- 01[17:45] <@darkie> it fits flavorwise too
- [17:45] <&Birkal> I personally prefer the pangolin, just because it looks bulkier
- [17:46] <imanalt> lol flash cannon sure
- [17:46] <&Birkal> I guess I could try a platypus
- [17:46] <Numbuh214> !data mirror shot
- [17:46] <TIBot> Mirror Shot - Steel | Special | Power: 65 | Accuracy: 85% | Max PP: 16 | 30% chance to lower the target's accuracy by 1.
- 01[17:46] <@darkie> hmm
- [17:46] <Numbuh214> !data flash cannon
- [17:46] <TIBot> Flash Cannon - Steel | Special | Power: 80 | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 16 | 10% chance to lower the target's Sp. Def by 1.
- 01[17:46] <@darkie> we coooould do a spider
- [17:46] <&Birkal> nope, I veto it
- 01[17:46] <@darkie> it would fit
- 01[17:46] <@darkie> like
- [17:46] <&Birkal> it will look just like a bug
- 01[17:46] <@darkie> spiders on the internet
- [17:46] <imanalt> !data doom desire
- [17:46] <TIBot> Doom Desire - Steel | Special | Power: 140 | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 8 | Hits two turns after being used.
- [17:46] <imanalt> obvious best option
- [17:46] <&jas61292> ...
- [17:46] <srk1214> ha
- [17:46] <Numbuh214> perhaps
- [17:47] <&jas61292> Don't even.....
- [17:47] <Numbuh214> a computer chip
- [17:47] <Numbuh214> that manips electricity
- [17:47] <srk1214> yeah I think electric/dark/steel is resisted by only itself
- 01[17:47] <@darkie> lol
- 01[17:47] <@darkie> just a chip
- [17:47] <srk1214> which is neat
- [17:47] <Numbuh214> into a spiderlike body
- 01[17:47] <@darkie> that would be cool
- 01[17:47] <@darkie> good idea numbuh
- 01[17:47] <@darkie> electric legs
- 01[17:47] <@darkie> what do you think birkal
- [17:47] <&Birkal> ok the problem with spider-like body
- [17:47] <srk1214> playpus
- [17:47] <srk1214> platypus*
- [17:47] <&Birkal> is whenever you make anything like any insect, it will look like a bug-type
- [17:48] <&Birkal> so we could go spider I guess
- [17:48] <srk1214> platypi emit electric fields
- [17:48] <Numbuh214> !data drapion
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> what if it's metal
- [17:48] <TIBot> Drapion - Poison/Dark | Battle Armor/Sniper/Keen Eye (H) | 70/90/110/60/75/95 | 500 BST | RU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 80 BP
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> and has electric legs
- [17:48] <&Birkal> I'll try a platypus
- 13[17:48] <&Birkal> then darkie, it looks like steel bug
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> no biological parts at all
- [17:48] <&Birkal> lol
- [17:48] <srk1214> or rather detects them lol
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> even if the legs are literally
- [17:48] <Numbuh214> i'm thinking like
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> just
- [17:48] <Numbuh214> pure plasma
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> bolts of electricity
- [17:48] <srk1214> "One of the most amazing design features of the platypus is its bill, which has fine nerve receptors that allow it to pick up electric fields given off ..."
- [17:48] <&Birkal> ok you guys go back to competitive
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> lol
- [17:48] <&Birkal> I'm gonna try playtpus
- 01[17:48] <@darkie> ok
- [17:48] <Numbuh214> does anyone read DC comics
- [17:48] <Numbuh214> or remember the Teen Titans show?
- [17:48] <srk1214> yes
- [17:49] <srk1214> teen titans yesyes
- [17:49] <Numbuh214> you know overload?
- [17:49] <srk1214> yes
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- 01[17:49] <@darkie> ok more moves
- [17:49] <Numbuh214> basically
- [17:49] <Numbuh214> overload as a pokemon
- 01[17:49] <@darkie> magnet raise?
- 01[17:49] <@darkie> or rise
- [17:49] <srk1214> let's cover the basics first, which is attacking moves and coverage
- 01[17:50] <@darkie> ok
- [17:50] <srk1214> this thing isn't using support moves I don't think
- [17:50] <imanalt> i dont really konw what else we need
- [17:50] <srk1214> so we can give whatever fits flavor best
- [17:50] <imanalt> we could give some options by also giving fire coverage i guess
- 01[17:50] <@darkie> flamethrower?
- [17:50] <srk1214> well do we want Thunder? it's kinda obligatory, no?
- [17:50] <Numbuh214> heat wave?
- 01[17:50] <@darkie> yeah thunder obv
- [17:50] <imanalt> lol heat wave
- [17:50] <srk1214> are we doing Flash Cannon for the insane coverage?
- [17:50] <%bugmaniacbob> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An1TUM7m-kKIdEpSdXlJRWkzbGY1X2VCWm9pYlJKVnc&usp=drive_web#gid=1
- [17:50] <srk1214> Flamethrower is quite good too
- [17:51] <%bugmaniacbob> this is a thing if it helps anyone
- [17:51] <imanalt> bmb i cant see it :(
- [17:51] <%bugmaniacbob> oh bugger um
- [17:51] <imanalt> all of fairy/steel/fire give insane coverage srk1214
- [17:51] <srk1214> ok well I'm opposed to fairy because fairy
- [17:51] <%bugmaniacbob> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0An1TUM7m-kKIdEpSdXlJRWkzbGY1X2VCWm9pYlJKVnc&output=html
- [17:51] <srk1214> but steel and fire are both ok
- 03[17:51] * dtc is now known as zapdos
- [17:51] <%bugmaniacbob> wait that didn't work either
- 01[17:52] <@darkie> yeah no fairy
- 03[17:52] * zapdos is now known as dtc
- [17:52] <%bugmaniacbob> well it's in the thread in CAP forum anyway
- 01[17:52] <@darkie> but flamethrower/fire blast?
- [17:52] <Numbuh214> it's like 99.999999872% flavor
- [17:52] <imanalt> yh
- [17:53] <Numbuh214> but this thing is def getting electro web
- [17:53] <Numbuh214> right?
- [17:53] <srk1214> along with sticky web, yeah
- 01[17:53] <@darkie> whats electro web?
- [17:53] <srk1214> !data electroweb
- [17:53] <TIBot> Electroweb - Electric | Special | Power: 55 | Accuracy: 95% | Max PP: 24 | 100% chance to lower the foe(s) Speed by 1.
- 01[17:53] <@darkie> ok cool
- 01[17:53] <@darkie> shadow ball?
- [17:53] <srk1214> not a VGM but good point numbuj
- 01[17:53] <@darkie> redundant but whatever
- 01[17:54] <@darkie> psybeam
- 01[17:54] <@darkie> signal beam
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- 01[17:54] <@darkie> psyshock
- 01[17:54] <@darkie> maybe psyshock
- 01[17:54] <@darkie> discharge
- 01[17:54] <@darkie> zap cannon
- 01[17:54] <@darkie> solarbeam
- [17:54] <srk1214> signal beam for sure
- [17:54] <srk1214> discharge yeah
- [17:54] <srk1214> anyone have the TM list for gen 6 handy?
- 01[17:54] <@darkie> what about psyshock
- 01[17:55] <@darkie> it hits breloom and gengar
- 01[17:55] <@darkie> lol
- 01[17:55] <@darkie> focus blast?
- [17:55] <srk1214> we already hit gengar with stab
- [17:55] <%bugmaniacbob> yes
- [17:55] <%bugmaniacbob> check the movepool builder
- 01[17:55] <@darkie> ik that's why i loled
- [17:55] <Numbuh214> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/TM#List_of_TMs here ya go
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- [17:55] <Numbuh214> movepool builder?
- 01[17:55] <@darkie> whats that
- 01[17:56] <@darkie> calm mind?
- 01[17:56] <@darkie> nah
- 01[17:56] <@darkie> not calm mind
- 01[17:56] <@darkie> that could be
- [17:56] <Numbuh214> yeah like
- 01[17:56] <@darkie> extremely powerful
- [17:56] <Numbuh214> don't give it set up
- [17:56] <Numbuh214> unless we want it to give it hidden prankster
- [17:56] <srk1214> ok toxic, hidden power
- [17:56] <Numbuh214> and even i'm like
- [17:56] <Numbuh214> FUCK that
- [17:56] <srk1214> no ice beam for sure lol
- [17:56] <%bugmaniacbob> Dark Pulse is commonly paired with Payback in Gen V
- [17:57] <srk1214> aren't return and frustration vgms?
- [17:57] <Numbuh214> if only there was an electric mega launcher move
- 01[17:57] <@darkie> light screen/reflect?
- 01[17:57] <@darkie> srk
- [17:57] <srk1214> yeah they are
- 01[17:57] <@darkie> even with base 48 attack?
- [17:57] <%bugmaniacbob> Charge Beam, Discharge, Flash, Rain Dance, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave are commonly found on BW Electric-types
- 01[17:57] <@darkie> no rain dance
- [17:57] <%bugmaniacbob> Payback, Snarl, Taunt, Torment commonly found on Dark-types
- [17:57] <srk1214> VGMs are VGMs regardless of CAP
- 01[17:58] <@darkie> oh ok
- 01[17:58] <@darkie> we didnt do that back then
- [17:58] <%bugmaniacbob> Attract Double Team Facade Frustration Giga Impact Hidden Power Hyper Beam Protect Recycle Rest Return Round Sleep Talk Snore Substitute Swagger Toxic required TMs
- [17:58] <srk1214> payback is a vgm, yes?
- 01[17:58] <@darkie> do genderless pokemon get attract
- [17:58] <Numbuh214> aren't return and frustration on like
- [17:58] <%bugmaniacbob> let me check
- [17:58] <Numbuh214> everything that can learn tms though?
- [17:58] <srk1214> genderless have no attract
- [17:58] <%bugmaniacbob> yes
- [17:58] <Numbuh214> only mew and cryogonal
- 01[17:58] <@darkie> i think this thing
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- 01[17:58] <@darkie> should be genderless
- [17:59] <srk1214> bmb, keep in mind this is a Gen 6 pokemon
- [17:59] <srk1214> not everything in gen 6 learns snore etc
- [17:59] <srk1214> that was just because it was a move tutor in gen 5
- [17:59] <%bugmaniacbob> I know
- [17:59] <%bugmaniacbob> I'm just putting the information out
- [18:00] <%bugmaniacbob> since nobody else seems to be able to access the movepool builder
- [18:00] <&Birkal> http://i.imgur.com/oNIT8Hg.png
- [18:00] <Numbuh214> i like genderless
- 01[18:00] <@darkie> nice
- [18:00] <Numbuh214> especially if we go with
- 01[18:00] <@darkie> i like this one the best birkal
- [18:00] <&Birkal> I prefer the pangolin, but if you guys want me to go in that direction I can
- 01[18:00] <@darkie> either or
- [18:00] <Numbuh214> my design concept of
- [18:00] <Numbuh214> computer hardware inside living plasma
- 01[18:00] <@darkie> are you gonna draw it
- 01[18:01] <@darkie> or just an idea
- [18:01] <Numbuh214> not a complete computer, just the parts
- [18:01] <srk1214> I like both the pangolin and the platypus
- [18:01] <srk1214> and I love the color scheme *electric blue*
- 01[18:02] <@darkie> is recylce a vgm?
- [18:02] <%bugmaniacbob> well my art is still coming, bleh
- [18:02] <%bugmaniacbob> also no
- [18:02] <srk1214> recycle isn't a TM in Gen 6, so it's not a required thing
- 01[18:02] <@darkie> ok good
- 01[18:02] <@darkie> energy ball
- 01[18:02] <@darkie> and where do we stand on psyshock
- 01[18:02] <@darkie> ?
- [18:02] <srk1214> ok I think we have all the required ones down except for Attract, which we might not use
- [18:03] <srk1214> although the art is gonna be gendered, no?
- 01[18:03] <@darkie> it depends on the art
- [18:03] <srk1214> ok competitive things
- 01[18:03] <@darkie> ok what about energy ball?
- 01[18:03] <@darkie> it fits flavorwise too
- [18:03] <srk1214> sure
- 01[18:04] <@darkie> doesnt matter of course
- [18:04] <&Birkal> I think I am gonna go with the pangolin, because I like it more, lol
- [18:04] <&Birkal> so unless there are serious objections
- [18:04] <%bugmaniacbob> why don't we just go through the tm list
- 01[18:04] <@darkie> psyshock?
- 01[18:04] <@darkie> ok
- [18:04] <%bugmaniacbob> and remove all the ones we don't want
- [18:04] <%bugmaniacbob> hone claws?
- [18:04] <%bugmaniacbob> no
- 01[18:04] <@darkie> no dragon claw
- [18:04] <%bugmaniacbob> dragon claw no
- [18:04] <srk1214> don't go one by one
- [18:04] <srk1214> mention only things you think are plausible lol...
- [18:04] <%bugmaniacbob> calm mind?
- 01[18:04] <@darkie> psyshock yes
- 01[18:04] <@darkie> calm mind no
- [18:04] <srk1214> if it doesn't get brought up tough shit
- [18:05] <%bugmaniacbob> roar
- [18:05] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm
- 01[18:05] <@darkie> roar
- 01[18:05] <@darkie> yes
- 01[18:05] <@darkie> it needs roar to spread stick web
- [18:05] <srk1214> roar yes
- [18:05] <srk1214> more reason for pangolin
- 01[18:05] <@darkie> !data venoshock
- [18:05] <TIBot> Venoshock - Poison | Special | Power: 65 | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 16 | Power doubles if the target is poisoned.
- 01[18:05] <@darkie> i say yes
- [18:05] <srk1214> pangolins are poisonous, no?
- 01[18:05] <@darkie> just cause it's shock
- 01[18:05] <@darkie> -shock
- [18:06] <%bugmaniacbob> psyshock is commonly found with a lot of stuff
- 01[18:06] <@darkie> but no reason other than that
- [18:06] <srk1214> sandshrew can use poison sting
- [18:06] <%bugmaniacbob> Dream Eater, Flash, Light Screen, Psychic, Psych Up, Shadow Ball, Telekinesis
- [18:06] <%bugmaniacbob> not sure how many of those are still TMs
- [18:06] <srk1214> I say Flash and Light Screen for sure
- [18:06] <srk1214> and both are TMs
- 01[18:06] <@darkie> is venoshock or psyshock a VGM?
- 01[18:06] <@darkie> sounds good to me srk
- [18:06] <%bugmaniacbob> psyshock is
- [18:06] <&jas61292> Psyshock definitely is
- [18:06] <Numbuh214> i don't know where the movepool builder is
- 01[18:06] <@darkie> venoshock?
- [18:06] <%bugmaniacbob> venoshock no
- 01[18:07] <@darkie> ok i'll add venoshock then
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- [18:07] <srk1214> does anything learn psyshock but not psychic?
- [18:07] <&jas61292> yes
- [18:07] <%bugmaniacbob> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0An1TUM7m-kKIdEpSdXlJRWkzbGY1X2VCWm9pYlJKVnc&output=html
- [18:07] <%bugmaniacbob> 2nd page has tm moves + vgm status
- [18:07] <&jas61292> Ninetales
- [18:07] <&jas61292> Golduck
- [18:07] <&jas61292> Clefable
- [18:08] <srk1214> ok so non-psychic types
- [18:08] <srk1214> cool
- [18:08] <Numbuh214> well
- [18:08] <Numbuh214> i don't want a genderless pokemon based on a gendered creature
- [18:08] <&jas61292> The Porygon line
- [18:08] <srk1214> psyshock but no psychic then
- 01[18:08] <@darkie> numbuh we can decide the genderlessness
- 01[18:08] <@darkie> after the design
- [18:08] <srk1214> for all we know quanyails will swoop in and quickly draw a computermon
- [18:09] <srk1214> Taunt?
- [18:10] <srk1214> Dig? Shadow Ball? Reflect?
- [18:10] <%bugmaniacbob> taunt is commonly found on dark-types
- [18:10] <%bugmaniacbob> is there any purpose to it here
- [18:10] <%bugmaniacbob> I mean it stops status but
- [18:11] <%bugmaniacbob> probably best to leave it off, don't want to encourage a walling role too much
- 01[18:11] <@darkie> we can add reflect but its pointless
- 01[18:11] <@darkie> i dont want taunt
- 01[18:11] <@darkie> on it'
- [18:11] <srk1214> also we're already up to 27 total, 19 VGMs lol
- [18:11] <srk1214> what's our CAP based on BSR?
- [18:11] <srk1214> ~300 BSR means...
- [18:12] <%bugmaniacbob> um
- [18:13] <%bugmaniacbob> 85/40 I think
- [18:13] <Numbuh214> just an idea, sorry
- [18:13] <Numbuh214> i would attempt to draw it
- [18:13] <Numbuh214> but it'd take too long to make a halfway-decent mouse drawing
- 06[18:13] * Numbuh214 hopes to finally get a graphics tablet for christmas
- 01[18:13] <@darkie> shadow ball?
- [18:13] <srk1214> ok so lets aim for like 70/35 as a more fair upper limit?
- 01[18:13] <@darkie> what does 70/35 mean
- 01[18:13] <@darkie> 70 moves total 35 vgm?
- [18:13] <srk1214> yeah, or even lower idk
- 01[18:13] <@darkie> we'll see
- 01[18:13] <@darkie> we can make cuts
- [18:14] <srk1214> I'd be cool with 55/30
- [18:14] <srk1214> Shadow Ball? Flamethrower?
- 01[18:14] <@darkie> y to both
- 01[18:14] <@darkie> but no fire blast
- [18:14] <srk1214> I agree on no fire blast
- 01[18:14] <@darkie> sludge bomb?
- 01[18:15] <@darkie> or wave
- 01[18:15] <@darkie> i say n to both
- [18:15] <srk1214> I would too. I like poison moves as flavor
- [18:15] <srk1214> but not those powerful ones
- 01[18:15] <@darkie> ok
- 01[18:15] <@darkie> lol
- 01[18:15] <@darkie> what is this move
- 01[18:15] <@darkie> Quash
- 01[18:15] <@darkie> !data quash
- [18:15] <TIBot> Quash - Dark | Status | Power: -- | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 24 | Forces the target to move last this turn.
- [18:16] <%bugmaniacbob> who cares about quash
- [18:16] <srk1214> basically honchkrow signature
- [18:16] <%bugmaniacbob> though it is dark I guess
- 01[18:16] <@darkie> charge beam?
- 01[18:16] <@darkie> y
- [18:16] <%bugmaniacbob> most electric-types get it
- [18:16] <%bugmaniacbob> y
- [18:16] <srk1214> yeah
- [18:16] <srk1214> it's a VGM yes?
- 01[18:16] <@darkie> i put it there
- 01[18:16] <@darkie> volt switch?
- [18:17] <%bugmaniacbob> flamethrower is commonly paired with incinerate
- 01[18:17] <@darkie> incinerate is fine
- 01[18:17] <@darkie> it sux anyway
- [18:17] <srk1214> charge beam is a VGM yes
- [18:17] <%bugmaniacbob> great
- [18:17] <srk1214> I've got the list open now
- 01[18:17] <@darkie> volt switch?
- [18:17] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm
- [18:17] <srk1214> hmmmmm it is a TM
- [18:18] <%bugmaniacbob> volt switch would be nice for escaping after webbing
- [18:18] <srk1214> and I think the new gen 6 electrics all get it
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> i say y
- [18:18] <%bugmaniacbob> but is not conducive to sweeping
- [18:18] <%bugmaniacbob> well why not
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> it's physical though
- [18:18] <srk1214> at the same time, it gets no sheer force boost
- [18:18] <%bugmaniacbob> no it isn't
- [18:18] <srk1214> so it's not quite so great to use as a choice mon
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> wat
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> volt switch is special?
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> wow
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> i'm dumb
- [18:18] <srk1214> yes...
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> i thought it was physical
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> this wohle time
- 01[18:18] <@darkie> for 2 years
- 01[18:19] <@darkie> i think its fine still
- [18:19] <srk1214> lol why is this magnezone/thundurus/etc hitting me so hard with volt switch
- [18:19] <%bugmaniacbob> whelp that's two years down the drain
- [18:19] <srk1214> I don't think any gen 6 electrics DON'T learn it
- [18:19] <srk1214> so yeah allow
- 01[18:19] <@darkie> thunder wave
- [18:19] <srk1214> mhm
- 01[18:19] <@darkie> it has to i think
- [18:20] <srk1214> Thief
- 01[18:20] <@darkie> sure
- 01[18:20] <@darkie> yeah we need more dark moves
- [18:20] <srk1214> bite etc
- [18:20] <srk1214> I'm looking just at TMs right now
- 01[18:20] <@darkie> yah
- 01[18:20] <@darkie> embargo?
- 01[18:20] <@darkie> or quash
- 01[18:20] <@darkie> lol
- [18:20] <srk1214> Fling? False Swipe?
- 01[18:20] <@darkie> quash goes with the speed thing
- [18:21] <srk1214> quash is practically just honchkrow, no?
- [18:21] <%bugmaniacbob> yeah who does learn quash
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> pancham by breeding
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> by tm:
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> nidos
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> kingler
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> mew
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> slowking kingdra
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> lots of royalty...
- [18:21] <srk1214> all KING things
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> empoleon
- 01[18:21] <@darkie> wtf
- 01[18:22] <@darkie> how is this a king move
- [18:22] <%bugmaniacbob> well well
- [18:22] <srk1214> emperor penguin
- [18:22] <%bugmaniacbob> there's another king move
- [18:22] <&jas61292> It really is based on the name
- 01[18:22] <@darkie> entei/raikou/suicune
- [18:22] <&jas61292> Except those 3
- 01[18:22] <@darkie> pangoro
- 01[18:22] <@darkie> spiritomb arceus
- 01[18:22] <@darkie> slaking
- 01[18:22] <@darkie> lol
- 01[18:23] <@darkie> reject or void, esp. by legal procedure.
- 01[18:23] <@darkie> thats why
- 01[18:23] <@darkie> hm
- [18:23] <srk1214> I reject, by legal procedure, quash
- [18:24] <%bugmaniacbob> quash + embargo
- 01[18:24] <@darkie> embargo y
- 01[18:24] <@darkie> link me to that notepad site again
- [18:24] <srk1214> embargo goes against LO sheer forcey stuff
- [18:24] <srk1214> http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w
- [18:24] <%bugmaniacbob> btw did we give this thing torment
- [18:24] <srk1214> not yet
- [18:24] <%bugmaniacbob> we passed over it on the tm list
- [18:25] <%bugmaniacbob> if we're at quash
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- [18:25] <srk1214> Torment, Fling, Embargo, False Swipe (i'm assuming pangolin)
- [18:25] <%bugmaniacbob> anyway we currently have 34 moves, 22 VGMs
- 01[18:25] <@darkie> isnt false swipe normal
- [18:25] <%bugmaniacbob> assuming Sticky Web is a vgm
- [18:25] <srk1214> !learn sandslash, false swipe
- [18:25] <TIBot> Sandslash can't learn False Swipe.
- [18:25] <srk1214> ok never mind
- 01[18:25] <@darkie> i'm looking at dark type moves
- [18:26] <%bugmaniacbob> oh
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> hone claws for flavor
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> shit i gotta go
- [18:26] <%bugmaniacbob> didn't we skip that one
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> we did
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> my bad
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- 01[18:26] <@darkie> we could add it based on the design though
- [18:26] <%bugmaniacbob> ok I'll take over then
- 13[18:26] <srk1214> ack bye bye darkie
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> for flavor
- [18:26] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> i thought you were in control anyway
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> lol
- [18:26] <%bugmaniacbob> I thought you re-usurped
- [18:26] <%bugmaniacbob> oh well
- 01[18:26] <@darkie> lol
- [18:26] <%bugmaniacbob> now we re-commence
- [18:27] <srk1214> well, it's almost built
- 01[18:27] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[18:27] <@darkie> dont vote on the design without me!!!
- [18:27] <%bugmaniacbob> now then, rock-type moves
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- 01[18:36] <@darkie> anything decided?
- [18:37] <srk1214> working through movepool
- [18:37] <srk1214> http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w
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- [18:38] <%bugmaniacbob> oh we added poison jab
- [18:38] <srk1214> adding Grass Knot too, it continues to be a move learned by EVERYTHING
- 01[18:38] <@darkie> kk
- 01[18:38] <@darkie> really everything?
- [18:38] <srk1214> dedenne, pangoro, heliolisk
- [18:38] <%bugmaniacbob> how many vgms are we limiting ourself to again
- [18:39] <%bugmaniacbob> we have 25 at present
- [18:39] <Oglemi> grass knot is surprisingly lowly distributed actually
- [18:39] <srk1214> we're up to 28 I think
- [18:39] <Oglemi> having done a ton of tm/hm compatibilities
- 01[18:40] <@darkie> if everything doesnt get grass knot i think we sohld take it off
- 01[18:40] <@darkie> it already gets energy ball
- [18:40] <Numbuh214> hm
- [18:40] <Numbuh214> did we deciide on NSA/NCA?
- 01[18:40] <@darkie> whats that
- [18:40] <Numbuh214> like
- [18:41] <Numbuh214> no secondary abilities/no competitive abilities
- [18:41] <srk1214> yeah but more things get Grass Knot than Energy Ball
- 01[18:41] <@darkie> o
- [18:41] <&Birkal> ok I gotta go
- [18:41] <srk1214> I'd rather ditch Energy Ball and keep Grass Knot
- 01[18:41] <@darkie> if there's anything that learns energyball and not grass knot
- [18:41] <%bugmaniacbob> bye birkal
- 01[18:41] <@darkie> then
- 01[18:41] <@darkie> i'd prefer eball
- 01[18:41] <@darkie> bye Birkal
- [18:41] <&Birkal> http://i.imgur.com/AzyHBbP.png
- [18:41] <&Birkal> that's the best I can do for ya
- [18:41] <Numbuh214> might be too good, considering what we already have, but technician just popped into my head
- [18:41] <&Birkal> use it if you'd like
- [18:42] <srk1214> I like it a lot. no idea if you'll get competition or not.
- 01[18:42] <@darkie> technician might work
- [18:42] <srk1214> I'm happy if you don't though. it's a good design.
- [18:42] <&Birkal> it would be better if I had more than like
- 01[18:42] <@darkie> it doesnt really get any moves to take advantage though
- [18:42] <&Birkal> an hour >__>
- [18:42] <srk1214> technician is so troll since sheer force is just so much better
- [18:42] <srk1214> no worries birkal
- 03[18:42] * Birkal is now known as Outkal
- 01[18:43] <@darkie> i think just keep
- 01[18:43] <@darkie> sheer force / sheer force / <hidden>
- 01[18:43] <@darkie> where hidden is flavor
- 01[18:43] <@darkie> no second ability
- [18:43] <srk1214> the only electric type that learns energy ball is galvantula
- [18:44] <srk1214> grass knot is learned by dedenne, eelektross, heliolisk, minun, pachirisu... etc
- [18:45] <Numbuh214> well
- [18:45] <Numbuh214> technician gives it incinerate
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> which can destroy berries i guess?
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> iunno
- [18:46] <%bugmaniacbob> yeah 45 power incinerate
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> no
- [18:46] <srk1214> lol
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> !data incinierate
- [18:46] <TIBot> No data found.
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> !data incinerate
- [18:46] <TIBot> Incinerate - Fire | Special | Power: 60 | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 24 | Destroys the foe(s) Berry/Gem.
- [18:46] <%bugmaniacbob> huh
- [18:46] <srk1214> oh
- [18:46] <%bugmaniacbob> I could have sworn it was 30
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> it was
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> got buffed
- [18:46] <srk1214> flamethrower is still stronger...
- [18:46] <Numbuh214> not anymore
- [18:46] <%bugmaniacbob> actually it isn't
- [18:46] <%bugmaniacbob> yeah
- [18:46] <srk1214> with the sheer force boost it is
- [18:47] <Numbuh214> oh yeah huh
- [18:47] <Numbuh214> well, technician offers utility
- [18:47] <srk1214> I'd rather just go Sheer Force and Volt Absorb or something
- [18:47] <Numbuh214> rather than the sheer URGH I'MMA DESTROY EVERYTHING
- 01[18:47] <@darkie> nah sheer force is important
- 01[18:47] <@darkie> it has to destroy everything
- 01[18:48] <@darkie> otherwise it can't sweep
- [18:48] <Numbuh214> also, technician electroweb reduces speed
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- [18:48] <Numbuh214> and is only slightly less powerful than t-bolt
- [18:48] <srk1214> technician electroweb and technician charge beam are interesting
- [18:48] <srk1214> considering you can't use charge beam with sheer force lol
- 01[18:49] <@darkie> meh
- 01[18:49] <@darkie> maybe
- [18:50] <srk1214> still I'm not sold though
- [18:50] <Numbuh214> so drain moves... n/n
- 01[18:50] <@darkie> lets just finish off the movepool first
- 01[18:50] <@darkie> nah
- 01[18:50] <@darkie> are you here bugmaniacbob
- [18:50] <srk1214> Are people ok with the following: Grass Knot, not Energy Ball; Strength added in, Rock Smash added in?
- [18:50] <%bugmaniacbob> hmm
- [18:50] <%bugmaniacbob> sorry got distracted
- [18:50] <srk1214> also still we have Torment Fling and Embargo?
- [18:51] <%bugmaniacbob> right what are we deciding
- [18:51] <%bugmaniacbob> actually
- [18:51] <%bugmaniacbob> do we even have any non-tm moves currently
- 01[18:51] <@darkie> i'm fine srk1214
- [18:51] <srk1214> barely lol
- [18:52] <%bugmaniacbob> right ok
- 01[18:52] <@darkie> what about nuzzle
- [18:52] <srk1214> but TMs are now all done
- [18:52] <srk1214> I think
- [18:52] <%bugmaniacbob> GK, Strength, Rock Smash, Torment, Fling, Embargo
- [18:52] <%bugmaniacbob> Dazzling Gleam?
- 01[18:52] <@darkie> nah
- [18:52] <%bugmaniacbob> how many electrics get thaat
- 01[18:52] <@darkie> we dont need it
- [18:52] <%bugmaniacbob> oh and snarl
- [18:52] <Numbuh214> we didn't want fairy
- [18:52] <%bugmaniacbob> can't forget snarl
- 01[18:52] <@darkie> !data snarl
- [18:52] <TIBot> Snarl - Dark | Special | Power: 55 | Accuracy: 95% | Max PP: 24 | 100% chance to lower the foe(s) Sp. Atk by 1.
- [18:53] <Numbuh214> but snarl would be nice
- 01[18:53] <@darkie> snarl is fine
- [18:53] <srk1214> NO FAIRY
- [18:53] <srk1214> yeah snarl is ok
- [18:53] <%bugmaniacbob> ok
- [18:54] <srk1214> are we putting in torment, fling, and embargo?
- [18:54] <%bugmaniacbob> that brings us to a rousing 42/24
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> lol
- [18:54] <%bugmaniacbob> yeah I put all of those in
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> we need to add a lot
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> of
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> shinny moves
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> shitty
- [18:54] <%bugmaniacbob> we need to add any level up moves full stop
- [18:54] <%bugmaniacbob> right
- [18:54] <srk1214> is Fling an attacking move by CAP standards lol?
- [18:54] <Numbuh214> thundershock
- [18:54] <srk1214> I guess it must be
- [18:54] <Numbuh214> shock wave?
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> tackle
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> lol
- 01[18:54] <@darkie> bite!
- [18:54] <%bugmaniacbob> no, apparently
- [18:54] <Numbuh214> spark
- 03[18:54] * Retrieving #cap modes...
- [18:54] <%bugmaniacbob> maybe I should fix that
- [18:55] <Numbuh214> feint attack?
- [18:55] <%bugmaniacbob> ok so tackle... do pangolins even bite
- [18:55] <%bugmaniacbob> take down
- [18:55] <Numbuh214> (what the fuck is even with that name change?
- [18:55] <Numbuh214> )
- [18:55] <%bugmaniacbob> thundershock
- [18:55] <Numbuh214> shock wave?
- [18:55] <%bugmaniacbob> discharge?
- [18:55] <srk1214> Thunder Shock, Bite
- [18:55] <Numbuh214> discharge is already VGM
- 01[18:55] <@darkie> knock off??
- [18:55] <Numbuh214> thunder fang?
- [18:55] <srk1214> Electric Terrain, Electrify?
- 01[18:55] <@darkie> i guess it's a good move now
- [18:55] <%bugmaniacbob> oh that's a good idea
- 01[18:55] <@darkie> i'm good with that srk1214
- 01[18:56] <@darkie> sounds ogod
- 01[18:56] <@darkie> goo
- 01[18:56] <@darkie> d
- [18:56] <%bugmaniacbob> all the weird moves that just got added
- [18:56] <srk1214> hmmm
- [18:56] <srk1214> those two moves have loooooow distribution
- [18:56] <srk1214> I'd say just give one
- 01[18:56] <@darkie> which two?
- [18:56] <srk1214> terrain and fy
- [18:56] <%bugmaniacbob> or make them egg moves
- [18:57] <srk1214> electrify is literally just heliolisk
- [18:57] <srk1214> so let's not give that
- [18:57] <%bugmaniacbob> so did we decide to give it zap cannon
- [18:57] <%bugmaniacbob> oh and is it gender-neutral
- [18:57] <Numbuh214> not sure
- [18:57] <%bugmaniacbob> so we know whether we're giving it egg moves
- 01[18:57] <@darkie> electric terrain is good
- 01[18:57] <@darkie> no
- 01[18:57] <@darkie> not gender neutral
- 01[18:58] <@darkie> if we're going with the pangolin
- [18:58] <Numbuh214> ^
- [18:58] <srk1214> Charge
- 01[18:58] <@darkie> i'm gonna stark assigning levels
- [18:58] <%bugmaniacbob> my design isn't exactly gender-neutral either
- 01[18:59] <@darkie> sticky web for level 0
- [18:59] <srk1214> switcheroo?
- 01[18:59] <@darkie> meh
- 01[18:59] <@darkie> not switcheroo
- 01[19:00] <@darkie> attract is a go then
- 01[19:00] <@darkie> also
- 01[19:00] <@darkie> bite?
- [19:00] <srk1214> omg wait
- [19:00] <srk1214> we gave volt switch
- 01[19:00] <@darkie> i added bite
- [19:00] <srk1214> what about parting shot
- 01[19:00] <@darkie> !data parting shot
- [19:01] <TIBot> Parting Shot - Dark | Status | Power: -- | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 32 | Foe's Atk/SpA -1, then switch out.
- 01[19:01] <@darkie> sure
- [19:01] <%bugmaniacbob> ooh that's an idea
- [19:01] <srk1214> is that too much to do sticky web and parting shot together?
- 01[19:01] <@darkie> nah
- [19:01] <%bugmaniacbob> I don't think so
- [19:01] <%bugmaniacbob> I hope not
- 01[19:01] <@darkie> this guy sounds really fun to play
- 01[19:01] <@darkie> with
- [19:01] <%bugmaniacbob> one seconf
- [19:02] <%bugmaniacbob> what egg groups are we thinking here?
- [19:02] <srk1214> make parting shot an egg move, no?
- [19:02] <srk1214> what group is pancham?
- [19:02] <%bugmaniacbob> also if it's a pangolin, should give it harden / iron defence
- [19:02] <srk1214> pangoro is in Field
- 01[19:02] <@darkie> field
- 01[19:02] <@darkie> humanlike
- [19:02] <srk1214> not hard to match
- [19:02] <%bugmaniacbob> ... humanlike?
- 01[19:02] <@darkie> sandshrew is field
- 01[19:03] <@darkie> pancham is humanlike bugmaniacbob
- 01[19:03] <@darkie> as well as field
- 01[19:03] <@darkie> field is good
- [19:03] <srk1214> sandslash is a defense curl mon not harden
- [19:03] <srk1214> are we assuming pangolin at this point?
- 01[19:03] <@darkie> well
- 01[19:03] <@darkie> we can see based on bmb's design
- [19:03] <%bugmaniacbob> ah makes sense
- 01[19:03] <@darkie> what's your design
- [19:03] <%bugmaniacbob> yeah mine is def not humanshape
- [19:03] <srk1214> is it Field?
- [19:04] <%bugmaniacbob> everything's field
- 01[19:04] <@darkie> it would be field?
- 01[19:04] <@darkie> lets roll with field then
- [19:04] <%bugmaniacbob> you could make a case for anything being field really
- [19:04] <srk1214> ok if you could see it as field, we're good
- [19:04] <srk1214> egg move parting shot
- 01[19:04] <@darkie> i added parting shot as level up
- [19:04] <%bugmaniacbob> I'd personally say amorphous / water 2
- [19:04] <%bugmaniacbob> but eh
- 01[19:05] <@darkie> but we can do egg too
- 01[19:05] <@darkie> idc
- 01[19:05] <@darkie> maybe field/monster?
- [19:05] <%bugmaniacbob> sure sure
- [19:05] <%bugmaniacbob> not like egg groups ever make sense anyway
- 01[19:05] <@darkie> heliolisk is monster
- [19:05] <%bugmaniacbob> oh god it's 1am
- 01[19:05] <@darkie> lol
- [19:06] <%bugmaniacbob> have to be up at 6 tomorrow
- [19:06] <%bugmaniacbob> today even
- 01[19:06] <@darkie> go to bed
- 01[19:06] <@darkie> show us your design
- [19:06] <%bugmaniacbob> haven't finished drawing yet
- 01[19:06] <@darkie> :D
- 01[19:06] <@darkie> how far are you
- [19:06] <srk1214> go to bed post-design
- [19:06] <%bugmaniacbob> but then how will I post the final product
- 13[19:06] <srk1214> darkie and I can finish up the moves, leaving just art, sprites, and flavor ability
- [19:06] <srk1214> we need sprites lol
- 01[19:06] <@darkie> we can post it lol
- 01[19:06] <@darkie> or
- 01[19:07] <@darkie> we can finish up the details tomorrow
- [19:07] <%bugmaniacbob> fair enough
- [19:07] <%bugmaniacbob> I'll post what I have so far, tell me if it's worth continuing
- [19:08] <srk1214> fair enough
- [19:09] <%bugmaniacbob> http://i39.tinypic.com/15s6f4k.png
- 01[19:10] <@darkie> what it is
- 01[19:10] <@darkie> worm?
- [19:10] <%bugmaniacbob> velvet worm
- 01[19:11] <@darkie> o ok
- [19:11] <Numbuh214> hmm
- [19:11] <srk1214> what do you think, bmb? I don't know how much more of what you plan on doing to it.
- [19:11] <Numbuh214> why holes
- 01[19:11] <@darkie> i like the pangolin better tbh
- [19:11] <Numbuh214> and not prongs?
- 01[19:11] <@darkie> so far
- [19:11] <Numbuh214> on the back part
- [19:11] <%bugmaniacbob> an interesting phylum of invertebrates known for squirting sticky glue at its prey
- 01[19:11] <@darkie> o
- 01[19:11] <@darkie> hmmm
- [19:11] <Numbuh214> bmb: see what i'm saying?
- [19:11] <srk1214> I'm inclined to go with the pangolin for the stats
- [19:12] <srk1214> I just don't see a worm having 92 speed, for example
- 01[19:12] <@darkie> i gotta go for 5 minutes
- 01[19:12] <@darkie> i'll be back on
- [19:12] <%bugmaniacbob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVDYSiH-Vw 2:10
- [19:12] <%bugmaniacbob> yeah I see what your saying
- [19:12] <%bugmaniacbob> front legs are prongs
- [19:12] <Numbuh214> !data durant
- [19:12] <TIBot> Durant - Bug/Steel | Swarm/Hustle/Truant (H) | 58/109/112/48/48/109 | 484 BST | RU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 60 BP
- [19:12] <%bugmaniacbob> back is holes
- [19:12] <%bugmaniacbob> human centipede joke
- [19:12] <%bugmaniacbob> I was tired sue me
- [19:12] <Numbuh214> i don't see a metal ant moving at 109 speed
- 01[19:12] <@darkie> lol
- [19:12] <Numbuh214> but there it is
- [19:13] <srk1214> huh they actually move faster than I thought they do
- 01[19:13] <@darkie> k brb
- 02[19:19] * Disconnected
- Session Close: Wed Nov 13 19:19:35 2013
- Session Start: Wed Nov 13 19:19:35 2013
- Session Ident: #cap
- 02[19:19] * Attempting to rejoin channel #cap
- 03[19:19] * Rejoined channel #cap
- 03[19:19] * Topic is 'CAP 6 Final Product: http://tinyurl.com/cawmodore CAP 6 status: READY FOR IMPLEMENTATION GET ON IT'
- 03[19:19] * Set by DetroitLolcat on Sun Nov 10 21:43:27
- 02[19:21] * supermarth64 (Marth@I.am.a.Siren) Quit (Quit: )
- [19:21] <%bugmaniacbob> http://oi40.tinypic.com/14m73pd.jpg
- [19:22] <%bugmaniacbob> better?
- [19:22] <srk1214> as a darkmon, yes lots
- [19:23] <srk1214> though it certainly loses a good deal of that happy pokemon electric yellow. thankfully that's easier to add back in with design elements
- [19:23] <+DarkSlay> Dark / Bug?
- [19:23] <srk1214> Electric / Dark
- [19:23] <srk1214> http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w
- [19:24] <+DarkSlay> Ah, it's a socket.
- [19:25] <srk1214> oh adding in aerial ace for now
- 01[19:26] <darkie> i'm back
- 01[19:26] <darkie> bitches
- 03[19:26] * BarackObama sets mode: +o darkie
- 01[19:27] <@darkie> i think yours looks more like a bug
- 01[19:27] <@darkie> than dark
- [19:27] <%bugmaniacbob> well yes that is a problem
- [19:27] <%bugmaniacbob> still, drapion isn't a bug
- [19:27] <%bugmaniacbob> kabutops isn't a bug
- [19:27] <%bugmaniacbob> etc
- [19:28] <%bugmaniacbob> if I gave it a set of cartoonishly large fangs would that help
- 01[19:28] <@darkie> true true
- [19:28] <+DarkSlay> !data Galvantula
- [19:28] <TIBot> Galvantula - Bug/Electric | Compound Eyes/Unnerve/Swarm (H) | 70/77/60/97/60/108 | 472 BST | RU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 40 BP
- 01[19:30] <@darkie> oh keep in mind field has smeargle
- 01[19:30] <@darkie> so there's no issue with making sure egg moves are possible
- 01[19:30] <@darkie> we can throw anything in that category
- [19:30] <srk1214> mwahahaha
- [19:30] <srk1214> another successful fieldmon
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- [19:31] <%bugmaniacbob> right I really don't think it's a good idea to stay up much longer
- [19:31] <Birkal> did we finish?
- [19:31] <%bugmaniacbob> http://oi42.tinypic.com/volyr4.jpg
- 01[19:31] <@darkie> nah
- [19:31] <srk1214> almost yet
- 01[19:31] <@darkie> go to sleep bugmaniacbob
- 03[19:31] * Coronis is now known as CoronisAFK
- [19:31] <%bugmaniacbob> that's probably the best I can do
- [19:32] <+DarkSlay> Ah, Sheer Force.
- [19:32] <%bugmaniacbob> at half past 1
- [19:32] <srk1214> go to sleep bmb, we might vote on art tonight or maybe not idk
- 03[19:32] * Retrieving #cap modes...
- 03[19:32] * darkie changes topic to 'CAP 6 Final Product: http://tinyurl.com/cawmodore CAP 6 status: READY FOR IMPLEMENTATION GET ON IT | FLASH CAP!! http://titanpad.com/MIP3LimC1w'
- [19:32] <Birkal> what are all the subs
- [19:32] <srk1214> just you and bmb
- [19:32] <%bugmaniacbob> ok, someone remember to save the log
- [19:33] <srk1214> uhhhhhhh you should do that for up to now
- 03[19:33] * CoronisAFK is now known as Coronis
- [19:33] <%bugmaniacbob> k done
- 01[19:33] <@darkie> i can save the log
- [19:33] <srk1214> I'm terrible at irc lol
- 01[19:33] <@darkie> or that
- 01[19:33] <@darkie> i'll save from here onwards
- [19:33] <%bugmaniacbob> well more people saving it is better
- 01[19:33] <@darkie> i added crunch as a lvl up
- 01[19:34] <@darkie> we need some special moves in lvl up
- [19:34] <srk1214> oh adding Confide as a TM basically everything gets it
- 01[19:34] <@darkie> a couple at least
- [19:35] <srk1214> do we really need Zap Cannon? Just have it culminate with thunderbolt
- 01[19:35] <@darkie> thunderbolt
- 01[19:35] <@darkie> is that levl 60 move?
- 01[19:36] <@darkie> i feel like it should be around 30
- [19:36] <srk1214> well normally it's thunderbolt in the 40s
- [19:36] <srk1214> thunder in the 60s+
- [19:36] <+DarkSlay> Interesting. Sheer Force prevents this from being weaker than Galvantula.
- 01[19:37] <@darkie> lets do that then
- 01[19:37] <@darkie> although
- [19:37] <srk1214> actually most things just don't get thunderbolt by level up
- [19:37] <srk1214> but lots get thunder late on
- 01[19:37] <@darkie> we need some moves that arent tms
- [19:37] <+DarkSlay> 95 Speed? What was the decision there?
- 01[19:37] <@darkie> 92
- [19:37] <+DarkSlay> Er.
- [19:37] <+DarkSlay> Yeah, meant 92.
- [19:37] <srk1214> go with Discharge and then Thunder later
- 01[19:37] <@darkie> is discharge tm?
- [19:37] <+DarkSlay> What sits at 91?
- [19:37] <srk1214> discharge isn't TM
- 01[19:37] <@darkie> ok awesome
- [19:38] <srk1214> loads of things learn discharge between 30-50
- [19:38] <srk1214> and then thunder late
- 01[19:38] <@darkie> 22 - Charge
- 01[19:38] <@darkie> 26 - Discharge
- 01[19:38] <@darkie> lol
- [19:38] <srk1214> haha
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- 01[19:39] <@darkie> i moved thundershock to start
- 01[19:41] <@darkie> added defense curl to egg
- [19:41] <srk1214> did we want hone claws?
- 01[19:41] <@darkie> meh
- 01[19:41] <@darkie> we can
- 01[19:41] <@darkie> it's a tm though
- 01[19:41] <@darkie> i want some more that arent tms
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- 01[19:42] <@darkie> how many moves are too many for level up?
- [19:43] <srk1214> like 16ish is good normally iirc
- [19:43] <srk1214> as a max
- 01[19:43] <@darkie> ok
- 01[19:43] <@darkie> we're at 15
- 01[19:43] <@darkie> slots
- 01[19:43] <@darkie> so thats good
- 01[19:43] <@darkie> i added electric terrain
- [19:44] <srk1214> Electric Terrain is learned later than Thunder in most cases
- [19:44] <srk1214> fwiw
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- [19:45] <Yilx> i read electric train
- [19:45] <+DarkSlay> Toot toot.
- 01[19:45] <@darkie> o
- 01[19:46] <@darkie> yes to dig
- [19:46] <BBritain> *Trying to EV train myself* *Fails*
- 01[19:46] <@darkie> imo
- 01[19:46] <@darkie> assuming we go with the pangolin
- 01[19:46] <@darkie> which i prefer
- 01[19:47] <@darkie> ok a couple more flavor moves
- 01[19:47] <@darkie> what's some good flavor for a pangolin or worm?
- [19:48] <+DarkSlay> Does it get Defense Curl?
- [19:49] <srk1214> egg mvoe atm
- [19:49] <+DarkSlay> kk
- [19:50] <Numbuh214> coil would probably be too good?
- [19:50] <+DarkSlay> Coil / Thunder / Dark Pulse / x
- [19:50] <+DarkSlay> lgi
- [19:52] <srk1214> lol I currently have it learning 44 TMs....
- 01[19:53] <@darkie> lol
- [19:53] <srk1214> nidoking learns like 56 though
- 01[19:53] <@darkie> we have to get rid of some
- 01[19:53] <@darkie> still..
- 01[19:53] <@darkie> i gave it lick
- 01[19:53] <@darkie> at level 7
- [19:54] <&jas61292> hey people, I'm typing out Cawmodore's data to put in PS. What do you think should be on the list of viable moves?
- [19:56] <srk1214> belly drum, bullet punch, drain punch, acrobatics, drill peck, substitute, iron head, quick attack maybe?
- [19:57] <&jas61292> Ok, that's kinda scary. Not only is that exactly the list I have typed out currently, but its even in the exact same order
- 01[19:57] <@darkie> lol
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- [19:57] <srk1214> holy balls
- 02[19:58] * +DarkSlay (DarkSlay@synIRC-45B5420E.cc.gettysburg.edu) Quit (Ping timeout: 184 seconds)
- 01[19:59] <@darkie> alright lets finish off this movepool srk1214
- [19:59] <&jas61292> Also, capefeather needs to get on here so I can ask him what color group it goes in
- 02[19:59] * Coronis (~Coronis@the.north.wind) Quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by Coronis_))
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- [19:59] <&jas61292> not that I need that to get the data up
- [19:59] <&jas61292> but its still something...
- 01[19:59] <@darkie> lol we could give it download
- 01[19:59] <@darkie> as a hidden ability
- 01[19:59] <@darkie> what do you think
- 01[19:59] <@darkie> srk1214
- [20:00] <Pwnegone> GUYS GUESS WHO
- [20:01] <Pwnegone> IT'S...................................
- [20:01] <Pwnegone> http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/jeflivs-tank-tank-tank-bank-team.3492405/#post-4974063
- [20:01] <Pwnegone> JEFLIV
- [20:01] <srk1214> download? only makes sense imo if we had a robotic design
- [20:01] <Pwnegone> http://i.imgur.com/bfwkt3G.png
- 01[20:01] <@darkie> it could work with the powercord tongue
- 01[20:01] <@darkie> it makes sense if you take sticky web
- 01[20:01] <@darkie> is being
- 01[20:01] <@darkie> the internet
- [20:02] <srk1214> jas, just put it red like we all know it should be
- 01[20:02] <@darkie> as being
- 01[20:08] <@darkie> lets do sand veil as a hidden ability
- [20:09] <srk1214> ooh I like that
- [20:09] <srk1214> have we officially voted for the pangolin, then?
- 01[20:09] <@darkie> uhh
- 01[20:09] <@darkie> i prefer it
- [20:09] <srk1214> yeah I do too
- 01[20:09] <@darkie> bmb's was
- 01[20:09] <@darkie> not as good as i expcted
- 01[20:09] <@darkie> lol
- [20:09] <srk1214> and i'm sure birdkal does too
- [20:10] <Pwnegone> what are we even doing rn
- [20:10] <Pwnegone> flash-cap?
- 01[20:10] <@darkie> finishing off moveopol
- 01[20:10] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[20:10] <@darkie> flash cap!!!!!
- [20:10] <Pwnegone> HOW DID I MISS THIS
- [20:10] <Pwnegone> FUCK YOU GUYS FOR NOT HIGHLIGHTING
- [20:10] <Pwnegone> ME
- [20:10] <Pwnegone> ;__;
- 03[20:10] * Pwnegone is now known as Pwnemo
- [20:10] <Birkal> lol
- 03[20:10] * Pwnemo is now known as Pwnemon
- [20:10] <srk1214> lol
- [20:10] <Birkal> yeah I vote for pangolin
- 01[20:11] <@darkie> ok
- [20:11] <srk1214> pangolin it is
- [20:11] <Birkal> sorry I am not the best artist
- 01[20:11] <@darkie> lets add a ground move
- [20:11] <Birkal> but I do in a pinch
- [20:11] <srk1214> we gave it Lick
- 01[20:11] <@darkie> to the level up
- [20:11] <srk1214> ;)
- 01[20:11] <@darkie> whats a shitty ground move
- 01[20:11] <@darkie> sand tomb?
- [20:11] <srk1214> dig
- [20:11] <Birkal> also I thought of the best electric / dark type Pokemon design
- 01[20:11] <@darkie> dig is a tm
- [20:11] <srk1214> I have Dig in TM yeah
- 01[20:11] <@darkie> is sand tomb a tm
- [20:11] <Birkal> but it would need to be a non-bulky mon
- [20:11] <srk1214> and I'll make dig and hone claws official
- [20:11] <Pwnemon> hm
- [20:12] <Birkal> it'd be this little devil-ish guy with a big fuzzy pajama suit on, complete with it being a one-piece thing with the covered feet and everything
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- [20:12] <Pwnemon> what are we thinking is a set
- [20:12] <Birkal> and it just goes around, shuffling its feet, creating static
- [20:12] <Birkal> and shocking other pokemon
- 01[20:12] <@darkie> well its a sticky web
- 01[20:12] <@darkie> sweeper
- 01[20:12] <@darkie> so definitely sticky web
- [20:12] <Pwnemon> i dont think 115 spa with neutral coverage is high enough for a sweeper tho
- [20:12] <srk1214> Honestly, I'm not convinced it'll run sticky web lol
- [20:12] <Pwnemon> but
- 01[20:12] <@darkie> SHEER FORCE
- [20:12] <Pwnemon> thunder wave, sticky web, parting shot...
- [20:12] <Pwnemon> oh, sheer force
- [20:13] <Pwnemon> lol disregard
- [20:13] <srk1214> but it certainly can run sticky web
- [20:13] <srk1214> 3 attacks is more than enough
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- [20:13] <srk1214> it's also a pretty good scarfer lol
- [20:13] <imanalt> tbh id run parting shot/sticky web/tbolt/dark pulse
- [20:14] <Yilx> why is parting shot allowed
- [20:14] <Yilx> ITS A SIG MOVE
- [20:14] <Yilx> NO;; PARTING SHOT
- [20:14] <Yilx> PANDA ONLY
- [20:14] <imanalt> lol
- 01[20:14] <@darkie> idc
- [20:14] <srk1214> we can take it out. I thought it was neat. Volt Switch is certainly plenty
- 01[20:14] <@darkie> i have no attachment to it
- [20:14] <&jas61292> Lets be honest... I give it 3 projects before we have used both Parting Shot and Sticky Web on real CAPs
- [20:14] <Yilx> http://puu.sh/5hJqR.gif non non non!!!!!!
- 01[20:14] <@darkie> i'm gonna take thunder wave out of the level up
- 01[20:14] <@darkie> since it's a tm
- [20:14] <srk1214> lol jas
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- [20:14] <Yilx> is this a speed cap
- [20:14] <Yilx> give it spikes
- [20:14] <Yilx> give it v-create
- [20:15] <Yilx> give it pubi-create
- 13[20:15] <srk1214> darkie, it needs some sort of support move though
- [20:15] <srk1214> Sand Attack maybe?
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- 01[20:15] <@darkie> that could work
- 01[20:15] <@darkie> sounds good
- 01[20:15] <@darkie> 2 more levl up moves
- [20:15] <Pwnemon> intimidate sounds good
- 01[20:15] <@darkie> we need a dark type move
- 01[20:16] <@darkie> that is useles
- [20:16] <srk1214> assurance
- 01[20:16] <@darkie> how about snarl
- [20:16] <srk1214> !data assurance
- [20:16] <TIBot> Assurance - Dark | Physical | Power: 60 | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 16 | Flags: Contact | Power doubles if target was damaged this turn.
- 01[20:16] <@darkie> i think we agreed on snarl earlier
- [20:16] <srk1214> eh not so useless
- [20:16] <srk1214> yeah snarl is in as a TM
- 01[20:16] <@darkie> oh nvm
- [20:16] <srk1214> but duplication is fine
- [20:17] <srk1214> actually no
- [20:17] <srk1214> don't level up snarl
- 01[20:17] <@darkie> yeah i took it off
- [20:17] <srk1214> the only thing that does that is yveltal lol
- 01[20:17] <@darkie> hone claws lvl up?
- [20:17] <srk1214> sure
- 01[20:17] <@darkie> or payback
- [20:18] <Yilx> i know a very good support move
- [20:18] <Yilx> give it rapid spin
- [20:18] <Yilx> 100%hkppl
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- [20:18] <srk1214> excadrill learns hone claws level up
- [20:18] <Pwnemon> we have never broken a cap with rapid spin
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- 01[20:18] <@darkie> yeah i think hone claws is a good lvl up
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- 01[20:18] <@darkie> and now
- 01[20:18] <@darkie> 1 more levl up
- 01[20:18] <@darkie> i think it should be a special move
- 01[20:18] <@darkie> maybe thunderbolt
- [20:18] <Yilx> SHOCK WAVE
- 01[20:18] <@darkie> level 42
- [20:19] <Yilx> NIGHT DazE
- 13[20:19] <srk1214> darkie, do you mind if I do a little realism reordering when you've got the blanks all full
- 01[20:19] <@darkie> no go for it
- [20:19] <Yilx> NiGHT daze
- 01[20:19] <@darkie> we need some more egg moves too
- [20:19] <Yilx> i have suggestion for egg move
- [20:19] <Yilx> rapid spin...
- 01[20:19] <@darkie> ok i'll just add poison sting
- [20:19] <srk1214> shock wave is a decent egg move
- 01[20:20] <@darkie> go for reordering
- 01[20:20] <@darkie> if you want
- 01[20:21] <@darkie> bulldoze egg
- 01[20:21] <@darkie> oh its a tm
- 01[20:21] <@darkie> nvm
- 01[20:21] <@darkie> i dont want to add any more tms
- 01[20:21] <@darkie> we might want to take some off even
- [20:21] <Yilx> do you have tm 10 hidden power
- 01[20:21] <@darkie> yes
- [20:21] <Yilx> how about tm 99 confide
- 01[20:21] <@darkie> yes
- [20:21] <Yilx> how about tm 69 v-create
- 01[20:22] <@darkie> yes
- [20:22] <Yilx> \o/
- [20:23] <&jas61292> I think we need some Eerie Impulse in the egg moves
- 01[20:23] <@darkie> sure
- 01[20:23] <@darkie> that sounds fine
- 01[20:23] <@darkie> do you think it would be a VGM
- [20:24] <&jas61292> I doubt it. Well... it would be whatever featherdance is
- [20:24] <srk1214> !data eerie impulse
- [20:24] <TIBot> Eerie Impulse - Electric | Special | Power: -- | Accuracy: 100% | Max PP: 24 | Lowers the target's Sp. Atk by 2.
- [20:25] <&jas61292> so no
- [20:25] <srk1214> yeah eerie impulse is ok in egg
- 01[20:25] <@darkie> how many egg moves total?
- 01[20:26] <@darkie> thers 5
- [20:26] <srk1214> that's about the right range for a gen 6 pokemon
- 01[20:26] <@darkie> ok
- 01[20:26] <@darkie> 1 more and we'll call it
- [20:26] <srk1214> it must be said nothing learns zap cannon by egg lol
- 01[20:27] <@darkie> o
- 01[20:27] <@darkie> we can remove that idc
- 01[20:27] <@darkie> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Belch_(move)
- 01[20:27] <@darkie> lol
- 01[20:27] <@darkie> is this real
- 01[20:27] <@darkie> !data belch
- [20:27] <TIBot> Belch - Poison | Special | Power: 120 | Accuracy: 90% | Max PP: 16 | User must eat a Berry to use this move.
- [20:27] <srk1214> apparently
- [20:27] <Birkal> yeah it's real
- [20:28] <srk1214> so gross
- [20:28] <srk1214> ok so art has been voted on, yes? I can delete the "potential" part?
- 01[20:28] <@darkie> yea
- [20:28] <Yilx> can we give it magnet rise
- 01[20:29] <@darkie> ya magnet rise egg
- 01[20:29] <@darkie> y/n?
- [20:29] <Yilx> can we give it magnet bomb
- [20:29] <srk1214> magnet bomb is learned only by steels
- [20:29] <Yilx> !search magnet bomb
- [20:29] <TIBot> Magnemite, Magneton, Smeargle, Magnezone, Probopass, Genesect
- 01[20:30] <@darkie> !search magnet rise
- [20:30] <Yilx> smeargle;; not stele;;
- [20:30] <TIBot> https://pokemonshowdown.com/dex/moves/magnetrise
- [20:30] <&jas61292> Could go with... Ion Deluge
- [20:30] <&jas61292> Which I have no idea if it fits, but I love the name
- [20:30] <Yilx> might as well give it all of those gimmicky electric moves
- 01[20:30] <@darkie> magnet rise
- [20:30] <Yilx> what was that move again
- [20:30] <Yilx> the one that increased def and spdef of mons with plus and/or minus
- [20:30] <srk1214> we already gave electric terrain
- [20:30] <&jas61292> There are a lot of new electric moves this gen
- [20:30] <&jas61292> Mostly gimmicky
- 01[20:30] <@darkie> that's parabolic arc or something
- [20:30] <Yilx> electrify is okay i guess
- [20:30] <&jas61292> And that is Magnetic Flux
- 01[20:30] <@darkie> o
- [20:31] <Yilx> electric terrain could see use in doubles
- [20:31] <Yilx> because lol no sleep
- [20:31] <Yilx> is big
- [20:31] <Yilx> but everything else... not so
- 01[20:31] <@darkie> !data magnetic flux
- [20:31] <TIBot> Magnetic Flux - Electric | Status | Power: -- | Accuracy: --% | Max PP: 32 | Raises defenses of ally Pokemon with Plus/Minus.
- [20:31] <Yilx> i mean... rototiller lol
- [20:31] <Yilx> LOL
- 01[20:31] <@darkie> i can put that as the last egg move
- [20:31] <srk1214> wait this one is...
- [20:31] <Yilx> !search rototiller
- 01[20:31] <@darkie> i took off zap cannon and take down
- [20:31] <TIBot> Dugtrio, Rhyhorn, Rhydon, Smeargle, Linoone, Bibarel, Rhyperior, Watchog, Excadrill, Diggersby
- [20:31] <Yilx> no give it rapid spin as an egg move
- [20:31] <srk1214> !search magnetic field
- [20:31] <TIBot> Smeargle
- [20:31] <srk1214> !data magnetic field
- [20:31] <TIBot> Magnetic Field - Electric | Status | Power: -- | Accuracy: --% | Max PP: 8 | For 5 turns, powers up Electric attacks.
- [20:31] <srk1214> something is wrong here
- [20:31] <Yilx> uhh
- 01[20:31] <@darkie> lol wat
- [20:31] <Yilx> yeah something is wrong here
- [20:31] <Yilx> !data electric terrain
- [20:31] <TIBot> Electric Terrain - Electric | Status | Power: -- | Accuracy: --% | Max PP: 16 | If on ground, can't sleep + Electric moves stronger.
- [20:31] <Yilx> wtf is that?
- [20:32] <Yilx> HELP
- [20:32] <Yilx> also give it rapid spin as an egg move
- [20:32] <Yilx> but no mon can pass rapid spin to it
- [20:32] <Yilx> ala head smash nosepass
- 01[20:32] <@darkie> oh it waws
- [20:32] <Yilx> y/n?
- 01[20:32] <@darkie> magnetic flux
- [20:32] <srk1214> ah here's what's wrong
- [20:32] <Yilx> no now the mystery is
- [20:32] <srk1214> Magnetic Field doesn't EXIST
- [20:32] <Yilx> wtf is magnetic field
- [20:32] <srk1214> not on serebii lol
- 01[20:32] <@darkie> i meant flux
- [20:32] <srk1214> but it got entered
- [20:33] <&jas61292> yeah, that is not a real move
- [20:33] <srk1214> and smeargle auto learns everything
- [20:33] <Yilx> !data magikarp's revenge
- [20:33] <TIBot> Magikarp's Revenge - Water | Physical | Power: 120 | Accuracy: --% | Max PP: 16 | Flags: Contact | Does many things turn 1. Can't move turn 2.
- 01[20:33] <@darkie> lol
- 01[20:33] <@darkie> !search magikarp's revenge
- [20:33] <TIBot> Smeargle
- [20:33] <srk1214> lol
- 01[20:33] <@darkie> ok are we ready to call this guy done?
- 01[20:33] <@darkie> let's think of a name!!
- [20:34] <srk1214> hmmmm wait
- [20:34] <srk1214> I'm gonna tweak the moves for one sec
- 01[20:34] <@darkie> k
- [20:34] <srk1214> so much electric in egg
- [20:34] <srk1214> not in level up
- 01[20:34] <@darkie> yea go for it
- 01[20:34] <@darkie> make it look real
- [20:34] <Yilx> CAN WE CALL IT PUBIZAPPER
- 01[20:34] <@darkie> is 59/29 too many?
- 01[20:35] <@darkie> bangolin
- [20:36] <srk1214> got it
- [20:36] <srk1214> taking out shock wave. the new gen 6 electrics don't learn it at all
- 01[20:36] <@darkie> sounds good
- [20:37] <srk1214> feel free to cut down the excessive TMs
- 01[20:37] <@darkie> is the move count correct atm?
- 01[20:37] <@darkie> i'm gonna take out venoshock
- [20:38] <srk1214> I think
- [20:38] <srk1214> ok
- 01[20:38] <@darkie> or psyshock rather
- 01[20:38] <@darkie> since its a vgm
- 01[20:38] <@darkie> that it will never use really
- [20:38] <srk1214> it's not a VGM
- 01[20:38] <@darkie> psyshock?
- [20:38] <srk1214> oh psyshock is yeah
- [20:38] <srk1214> venoshock isn't
- [20:39] <Yilx> what abolut shock wave
- 06[20:39] * Yilx cries
- [20:39] <srk1214> nothing from gen 6 learns shock wave :(
- [20:39] <Yilx> so you give it all the shock moves by shock wave
- [20:39] <Yilx> terrible!!!!!
- [20:39] <Yilx> TERRIBL!!!!!
- [20:39] <Yilx> END DISCRIMINATION
- [20:39] <srk1214> I'm taking out venoshock
- 01[20:39] <@darkie> lol
- 01[20:39] <@darkie> ok
- 13[20:39] <srk1214> and darkie is taking out psyshock
- 01[20:39] <@darkie> and i'm gonna take out wild charge
- [20:39] <srk1214> yeah good call
- 01[20:40] <@darkie> so now
- 01[20:40] <@darkie> 61/26
- 01[20:40] <@darkie> pretty good
- [20:40] <srk1214> 61/27 rather
- 01[20:40] <@darkie> is it?
- [20:40] <srk1214> uh... recont
- 01[20:41] <@darkie> yeah 27
- [20:41] <srk1214> ok final competitive decision
- [20:41] <srk1214> sheer force / no second / sand veil?
- 01[20:41] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[20:41] <@darkie> i agree
- [20:42] <srk1214> ok all competitive stuff should be done
- 01[20:43] <@darkie> so now just
- 01[20:43] <@darkie> name dex sprite
- 01[20:43] <@darkie> right?
- [20:43] <srk1214> Name, sprite, dex entries/species name/weight shit
- 01[20:43] <@darkie> o
- [20:43] <&jas61292> Personally I say Sand Force > Sand Veil. Sand Veil makes it too similar to Heliolisk, imo
- 01[20:43] <@darkie> heliolist gets sand veil?
- [20:43] <srk1214> I was going for similar to sandshrew personally
- [20:43] <Birkal> elcheeso
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> i just copied from sandshrew
- [20:44] <srk1214> yeah
- [20:44] <srk1214> !data sandslash
- [20:44] <TIBot> Sandslash - Ground | Sand Veil/Sand Rush (H) | 75/100/110/45/55/65 | 450 BST | RU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 60 BP
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> i'm not opposed to sand force
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> it does nothing for it
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> its just flavor
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> !data sand force
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- [20:44] <TIBot> Sand Force: This Pokemon's Rock/Ground/Steel attacks do 1.3x in Sandstorm; immunity to it.
- [20:44] <srk1214> yeah it only even gets one steel move
- [20:44] <&jas61292> Boosts Flash Cannon! As much as Sheer Force...
- [20:44] <srk1214> ok
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> lol
- [20:44] <&jas61292> And also gives sand immune
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> yea
- [20:44] <&jas61292> but yeah
- 01[20:44] <@darkie> but whatevs
- 01[20:45] <@darkie> sheer force is still better
- [20:45] <srk1214> sheer force and sand force...
- 01[20:45] <@darkie> for its purposes
- [20:45] <srk1214> hmmmmmm
- [20:45] <srk1214> !data landorus
- [20:45] <TIBot> Landorus - Ground/Flying | Sand Force/Sheer Force (H) | 89/125/90/115/80/101 | 600 BST | OU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 80 BP
- 01[20:45] <@darkie> lol
- 01[20:45] <@darkie> 115 sp atk
- 01[20:45] <@darkie> :O
- [20:45] <srk1214> xD
- [20:45] <&jas61292> lol
- 01[20:46] <@darkie> lets name it
- [20:46] <srk1214> not even remotely comparable though. landorus has such better typing
- [20:46] <srk1214> and higher speed
- 01[20:46] <@darkie> and no sticky web!!
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- [20:49] <srk1214> Ampeater
- [20:49] <Yilx> ampeater YES
- [20:49] <Yilx> LOL
- 01[20:49] <@darkie> lol
- 01[20:49] <@darkie> thats pretty good
- [20:49] <Yilx> srk a genius
- [20:49] <srk1214> does Birkal object to his pangolin being reduced to a mere anteater?
- 01[20:50] <@darkie> Arcmor
- 01[20:51] <@darkie> Chargmor
- 01[20:52] <@darkie> shockolin
- 01[20:52] <@darkie> joltolin
- [20:52] <Birkal> sure
- [20:52] <Birkal> anteater is fine
- [20:52] <Birkal> but note that it has plates all over lol
- 01[20:53] <@darkie> i can't think of anything with 'armor'
- [20:53] <srk1214> I suggested Ampeater as a name
- [20:53] <srk1214> Trying to make plug or socket fit into something somehow
- 01[20:53] <@darkie> what about a name with its dark type
- 01[20:54] <@darkie> electroction
- [20:54] <srk1214> Snoutlet
- 01[20:54] <@darkie> lol
- 01[20:54] <@darkie> thats funny
- 01[20:54] <@darkie> electrocution is basically
- 01[20:54] <@darkie> dark/electric
- 01[20:54] <@darkie> i wonder if there's anything with that wrod
- 01[20:54] <@darkie> word
- [20:54] <srk1214> snoutlet is a great prevo name, not fearsome enough for this guy I think
- 01[20:55] <@darkie> agree
- [20:55] <srk1214> can I officially make snoutlet the prevo that will never exist's name?
- 01[20:55] <@darkie> yes
- 01[20:55] <@darkie> pls
- 01[20:56] <@darkie> snoutlet is a great name
- [20:56] <BBritain> Pick a random, non fully evolved pokemon, please
- 01[20:56] <@darkie> monferno
- [20:56] <srk1214> phanpy
- [20:56] <Numbuh214> elekid
- [20:56] <Numbuh214> smoochum
- [20:57] <Numbuh214> magby
- [20:57] <srk1214> haha mine is super effective against monferno. I win.
- [20:57] <Numbuh214> <_<
- [20:57] <Numbuh214> i thought we were providing examples of canon baby names like snoutlet
- [20:57] <Numbuh214> or prevo
- [20:57] <Numbuh214> anyway
- [20:57] <srk1214> how about Shocket
- [20:57] <Numbuh214> using the pangolin?
- 01[20:57] <@darkie> ehh
- [20:57] <BBritain> Hmm. Phanpy then
- [20:58] <srk1214> Snoutlet and Shocket
- [20:58] <srk1214> ehhhh I agree
- 01[20:58] <@darkie> i dont like shocket as much
- [20:58] <Numbuh214> Surjolin
- 01[20:58] <@darkie> sounds weird
- 01[20:58] <@darkie> surge is a good word though
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- 01[20:58] <@darkie> try "scale"
- 01[20:58] <@darkie> also as a word
- 01[20:58] <@darkie> or "armor"
- [20:59] <Numbuh214> Sir + Surge + Mangolin
- [20:59] <srk1214> all I can think of is scalekali or something awful
- 01[20:59] <@darkie> lol
- [20:59] <Numbuh214> *pangolin
- 01[20:59] <@darkie> mangolin
- 01[20:59] <@darkie> lol
- [20:59] <Numbuh214> lololol
- [20:59] <Numbuh214> that was something like a name i was gonna send
- 01[21:00] <@darkie> Scaletage
- 01[21:00] <@darkie> lol
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- 01[21:01] <@darkie> Circmor
- 01[21:01] <@darkie> nah
- 03[21:01] * Pwnemon is now known as Pwnegone
- 01[21:01] <@darkie> circuit + armor
- 01[21:01] <@darkie> Pangohm
- 01[21:02] <@darkie> ??
- [21:02] <srk1214> !data cyclohm
- [21:02] <TIBot> Cyclohm - Electric/Dragon | Shield Dust/Static | 108/60/118/112/70/80 | 548 BST | CAP | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 80 BP
- 01[21:02] <@darkie> goddamn it
- [21:02] <srk1214> !data pangoro
- [21:02] <TIBot> Pangoro - Fighting/Dark | Iron Fist/Mold Breaker/Scrappy (H) | 95/124/78/69/71/58 | 495 BST | Limbo | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 100 BP
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- 01[21:02] <@darkie> lol
- 01[21:02] <@darkie> i'm so creative
- [21:02] <Numbuh214> Pangohmal?
- [21:02] <srk1214> the best work is derivative
- 01[21:02] <@darkie> -mal is good
- 01[21:02] <@darkie> that one seems long tho
- 01[21:03] <@darkie> i think ampeater is the best
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> but i wish we could fit the scale/armor
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> into the name
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> Voltvark
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> lol
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> Aardvolt
- [21:04] <srk1214> aardvarks are actually a different thing
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> i know
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> they look kinda similar though
- 01[21:04] <@darkie> ardvolt
- [21:05] <Numbuh214> lol'
- 01[21:05] <@darkie> why is pangolin such a hard name
- 01[21:05] <@darkie> -___-
- [21:05] <Numbuh214> because electric/dark
- 01[21:05] <@darkie> Manidae
- [21:05] <Numbuh214> and SCALES
- 03[21:05] * dodrio is now known as dodrio[afk]
- 01[21:05] <@darkie> that's the family
- 01[21:05] <@darkie> genus Manis
- [21:05] <srk1214> lol if only this guy was based on speakers and an aardvarkish thing, rather than a plug
- [21:06] <srk1214> Aardwoofer
- [21:06] <Numbuh214> i wanted overload as a pokemon
- [21:06] <Numbuh214> :p
- [21:06] <Numbuh214> anyway
- 01[21:06] <@darkie> Snoutlet -> Ampeater
- 01[21:07] <@darkie> i think that's the best we're gonna get
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- 03[21:07] * Set by darkie on Wed Nov 13 19:32:33
- 03[21:07] * BarackObama sets mode: +o darkie
- [21:07] <srk1214> i'm the best at names when there's few people around
- [21:07] <srk1214> my names never do well in actual polls though
- [21:07] <srk1214> :(
- [21:07] <BBritain> http://i.imgur.com/JX9pLmw.png
- [21:07] <BBritain> I made a ground/water Phanpy evo.
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- 01[21:07] <@darkie> lol
- [21:07] <srk1214> it's a plesiosaur!
- [21:08] <Numbuh214> psst
- [21:08] <Numbuh214> pssssssssssssst
- [21:08] <Numbuh214> give it fly
- [21:08] <BBritain> Phanpy + Aqua Splicer?
- [21:08] <Numbuh214> <3
- 01[21:08] <@darkie> ok dex info
- [21:08] <srk1214> obvious candidate for Water Spout
- [21:08] <BBritain> OR so I don't have to make a new item
- 01[21:08] <@darkie> do we need 2 entries?
- [21:08] <BBritain> Phanpy + Water Stone
- 01[21:08] <@darkie> water stone
- [21:08] <srk1214> X and Y yeah
- 01[21:08] <@darkie> ok
- [21:08] <Numbuh214> ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
- [21:09] <Numbuh214> i don't like making a new pokemon evo
- [21:09] <Numbuh214> based on things that could have happened in previous gens
- 01[21:09] <@darkie> Ampeater often keep to themselves, but come at you with an electrical vengeance if you disturb their colony.
- [21:09] <srk1214> I may pester Birdkal until he makes a prevo snoutlet picture :[
- [21:09] <BBritain> I was disappointed with Gens 5 and 6
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- [21:09] <BBritain> because no evos of past monsters
- [21:10] <BBritain> plus, gen 6 has no gen 5 babies :(
- [21:10] <srk1214> uh... can you see the pad page?
- [21:10] <srk1214> I'm locked out
- 01[21:10] <@darkie> no it stopped
- 01[21:10] <@darkie> working
- 01[21:10] <@darkie> ..
- 01[21:10] <@darkie> Many sticky traps surround Ampeater colonies. Some say this is to keep out potential intruders.
- [21:11] <srk1214> thank god I copied it
- [21:11] <srk1214> lol
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- [21:11] <srk1214> though my version that I copied isn't 100% up to date....
- 01[21:12] <@darkie> Ampeater keep to themselves in colonies, but will attack unwanted guests with vengeance if disturbed.
- 01[21:12] <@darkie> what do you think
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- 01[21:12] <@darkie> ok pad's bad
- [21:12] <Numbuh214> BBritain: one exception to that
- 01[21:12] <@darkie> back
- [21:12] <Numbuh214> and no, not mega evos
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- [21:12] <Numbuh214> !data sylveon
- [21:12] <TIBot> Sylveon - Fairy | Cute Charm/Pixilate (H) | 95/65/65/110/130/60 | 525 BST | Limbo | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 40 BP
- [21:12] <Numbuh214> :p
- [21:12] <srk1214> back? with everything up to date?
- 01[21:12] <@darkie> yeah
- 01[21:12] <@darkie> half of "Ampeater"
- 01[21:13] <@darkie> was missing
- [21:13] <Numbuh214> i'mma be honest
- 01[21:13] <@darkie> but thats it
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- 01[21:13] <@darkie> that was the last thing we added
- [21:13] <srk1214> thank the lord baby jesus
- [21:13] <srk1214> said the atheist
- [21:13] <BBritain> Also disappointed with the lack of Gyarados equivalent
- [21:13] <Numbuh214> i expected something like 110/60/65/95/65/130 from sylveon
- [21:13] <srk1214> I copied it all over now up to date
- [21:13] <BBritain> and the fact that the gen 5 regional bug isn't some kind of moth/butterfly
- [21:13] <BBritain> Then again, gen 2 regionall bug isn't a butterfly either, right?
- [21:13] <Numbuh214> it doesn't look that much like an attacker
- 01[21:14] <@darkie> whats the regional bug?
- [21:14] <Gun6> gen 2 had Ledian and Ariados
- [21:14] <srk1214> I've got it all in a pastebin
- 01[21:14] <@darkie> ok cool
- 01[21:14] <@darkie> what do you think of my dex
- [21:14] <srk1214> uhhhhh
- [21:14] <srk1214> let's see
- 01[21:14] <@darkie> it seems likea pokemon that doesnt want to be attacked
- 01[21:14] <@darkie> or disturbed
- [21:14] <srk1214> I was freaking out over the bin dying
- 01[21:14] <@darkie> and the traps give a reason for sticky web
- 01[21:14] <@darkie> while the "vengeance" gives a reason for the dark type
- [21:14] <srk1214> Ampeater keep to themselves in colonies, but will attack unwanted guests with vengeance if disturbed.
- [21:15] <srk1214> Many sticky traps surround Ampeater colonies. Some say this is to keep out potential intruders.
- [21:15] <srk1214> those two?
- 01[21:15] <@darkie> yeah
- [21:16] <BBritain> Yeah, I prefer if the regional bug is a butterfly-like creature
- [21:16] <srk1214> pangolins aren't colony creatures I don't think... not that that matters
- [21:16] <srk1214> !data vivillon
- [21:16] <TIBot> Vivillon - Bug/Flying | Shield Dust/Compound Eyes/Friend Guard (H) | 80/52/50/90/50/89 | 411 BST | Limbo | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 40 BP
- 01[21:16] <@darkie> isnt vivillon a butterfly
- 01[21:16] <@darkie> what other bug was there?
- [21:16] <srk1214> mhm
- 01[21:17] <@darkie> we can change "colony"
- 01[21:17] <@darkie> to like
- 01[21:17] <@darkie> holes
- 01[21:17] <@darkie> or whatever
- 01[21:17] <@darkie> you call their homes
- [21:17] <srk1214> there are burrowing species
- [21:17] <srk1214> and tree species
- 01[21:17] <@darkie> "burrows"
- [21:17] <Numbuh214> and btw
- [21:18] <Numbuh214> whoever suggested flagrate for the fire type -ate ability name however long ago
- [21:18] <srk1214> me
- [21:18] <Numbuh214> i'd prefer conflagrate, but maybe that's just me
- [21:18] <srk1214> haha, either way
- 01[21:18] <@darkie> Pyrate
- [21:18] <srk1214> only in english does a flagration mean the same thing as a conflagration
- [21:18] <srk1214> and flammable = inflammable
- 01[21:18] <@darkie> lol
- [21:19] <BBritain> Eevee like plant type that evolves based on the berry it holds
- 01[21:19] <@darkie> infamous is even more famous than famous
- [21:19] <BBritain> but its evolution is just, maybe, one or two pokemon with different formes
- [21:19] <srk1214> sweetbreads aren't sweet or bread
- [21:19] <BBritain> Like A evolves into B (berryname forme)
- 01[21:20] <@darkie> anyway
- 01[21:20] <@darkie> anyone else have a dex entry
- [21:20] <BBritain> maybe A would have something like a uniquely named Natural Gift (I think that's what it's called? The one that changes type based on held berry?)
- 01[21:20] <@darkie> or suggestions
- [21:20] <srk1214> I put up the dex entries
- [21:20] <srk1214> edit away
- 01[21:20] <@darkie> oh ok
- 01[21:20] <@darkie> i changed the X one slightly
- 01[21:20] <@darkie> now what
- 01[21:21] <@darkie> height/weight color?
- [21:21] <srk1214> actually... one sec
- [21:21] <srk1214> burrows twice/
- 01[21:21] <@darkie> on the second it could just be
- 01[21:21] <@darkie> "ampeater keep to themselves"
- [21:21] <srk1214> prefer to keep to themselves
- 01[21:21] <@darkie> yeah
- [21:21] <srk1214> keep to themselves by choice etc
- 01[21:21] <@darkie> that works
- 01[21:21] <@darkie> prefer
- 03[21:22] * V4 is now known as V4|afk
- 01[21:22] <@darkie> sandslash is 3'03" 65 lbs
- [21:22] <DarkSlay> lol Ampeater.
- 03[21:22] * BarackObama sets mode: +v DarkSlay
- 01[21:22] <@darkie> excadrill is 2'04" 89 lbs
- [21:22] <srk1214> the tallest pangolin height I see listed IRL is 3 feetish
- 01[21:23] <@darkie> heatmor is 4'07" 128 lbs
- 01[21:23] <@darkie> sandslash seems like a good base
- [21:23] <srk1214> meaning the tallest we can go for pokemon purposes is probably like 4, but yeah 3ish seems good
- 01[21:23] <@darkie> we can do
- 01[21:23] <@darkie> 3'6"
- 01[21:23] <@darkie> and like
- 01[21:23] <@darkie> 70 lbs
- [21:23] <srk1214> !data sandslash
- [21:23] <TIBot> Sandslash - Ground | Sand Veil/Sand Rush (H) | 75/100/110/45/55/65 | 450 BST | RU | Low Kick/Grass Knot: 60 BP
- [21:23] <srk1214> 75/110 physical defense compared to our 85/115
- 01[21:23] <@darkie> lol
- [21:24] <srk1214> so yeah bigger than sandslash is better
- 01[21:24] <@darkie> i didnt realize sandslash had such low stats all across the board
- [21:24] <srk1214> it only gets used because of SR + Rapid Spin
- 01[21:24] <@darkie> maybe 80 lbs
- 01[21:24] <@darkie> cause of the bulk
- [21:24] <srk1214> and well in BW OU it's actually not bad with SD and Sand Rush
- 01[21:24] <@darkie> still in the same grass knot class
- [21:25] <srk1214> nothing is actually 3'6 fwiw
- [21:25] <srk1214> 3'03 or 3'07
- 01[21:25] <@darkie> lol
- 01[21:25] <@darkie> ok
- 01[21:25] <@darkie> 7
- [21:25] <srk1214> that puts us at charmeleon, shelgon, gligar height
- [21:26] <srk1214> seems fine
- 01[21:26] <@darkie> yeah seems reasonable
- [21:26] <+DarkSlay> Let's make it the size of
- [21:26] <+DarkSlay> Joltik.
- 01[21:26] <@darkie> ...
- 01[21:26] <@darkie> ._.
- [21:26] <+DarkSlay> lol
- [21:26] <srk1214> gligar for the record is 142.9 lbs :o
- 01[21:26] <@darkie> color = gray?
- [21:26] <srk1214> but charmeleon is 42...
- [21:27] <srk1214> pokemon makes no sense
- [21:27] <srk1214> gligar is dense as hell
- 01[21:27] <@darkie> lol
- 01[21:27] <@darkie> fat gligar
- 01[21:27] <@darkie> gligar is made of ground
- [21:27] <srk1214> ok so 3'07 aka 1.1m
- [21:27] <+DarkSlay> I guess you could say GF
- [21:27] <+DarkSlay> -shades-
- 01[21:27] <@darkie> which is heavier than fire
- [21:27] <+DarkSlay> should have grounded their unrealistic weights.
- [21:27] <+DarkSlay> B)
- 01[21:28] <@darkie> now we just need a sprite!
- [21:29] <srk1214> 3'07" aka 1.1m
- [21:29] <srk1214> and
- [21:29] <srk1214> 83.8 lbs aka 38 kg
- 01[21:29] <@darkie> that works
- [21:29] <srk1214> or lighter idc
- [21:29] <+DarkSlay> I mean, Gligar is a
- [21:29] <+DarkSlay> -shades-
- [21:29] <+DarkSlay> terra-iffic Pokemon, after all!
- 01[21:30] <@darkie> im gonna punch you
- [21:30] <srk1214> sooooo do we just wait until a spriter happens to come around then?
- [21:30] <+DarkSlay> Just hope that it doesn't
- [21:30] <+DarkSlay> -shades-
- 01[21:30] <@darkie> lol
- [21:30] <+DarkSlay> LAND on my face!
- 03[21:30] * DarkSlay was kicked by darkie (with my foot)
- [21:30] <srk1214> lol
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- 03[21:30] * BarackObama sets mode: +v DarkSlay
- [21:30] <+DarkSlay> lol
- 01[21:31] <@darkie> is anyone here a spriter
- [21:31] <+DarkSlay> !recap
- [21:31] <srk1214> elcheso maybe
- 03[21:31] * dodrio[afk] is now known as dodrio
- [21:32] <srk1214> but really wyv, doug, and quanyails are here often
- [21:32] <srk1214> and they all sprite
- [21:34] <srk1214> http://pastebin.com/QaUrhyiD
- [21:35] <srk1214> of course now I notice the mistake lol. Thunder Shock is now two word
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- [21:36] <srk1214> better: http://pastebin.com/R168Uq7f
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